Caption transcript for Faith for the Future: “Stepping Closer to Destiny” (10/10)

• 00:03 David Hart: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots."
• 00:12 ♪♪♪ David: Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for,
• 00:15 the conviction of things not seen,
• 00:17 for by it the men of old received divine approval.
• 00:21 For whatever was written in former days was written for our
• 00:24 instruction, that through endurance and through the
• 00:28 encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
• 00:36 "Faith for the Future: Our Journey with the Patriarchs."
• 00:43 David: We are so glad you've joined us today.
• 00:45 I'm David Hart.
• 00:46 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 00:48 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I am Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:49 A little sad 'cause we're putting a wrap on a series in
• 00:51 the show, correct?
• 00:53 David: It's been ten great programs.
• 00:54 I can't believe we're done.
• 00:56 Thank you for your insight, not only from you but your wife
• 00:59 who's been sitting at this desk.
• 01:01 Kirsten: Dr. Barri Seif will be right here.
• 01:03 Jeffrey: She'll be here in short order,
• 01:05 the better half, to be sure.
• 01:07 David: Yes.
• 01:08 Kirsten: But you've taken us on a wonderful journey of
• 01:09 Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and their wives.
• 01:13 Jeffrey: Yes, indeed.
• 01:14 Well, life's a journey and Bible teachers journey back and,
• 01:17 speaking of journeys, we're going back home,
• 01:20 in fact.
• 01:22 This series has been about faith for the future.
• 01:24 We're looking a little fear for the future.
• 01:27 Jacob was a tad bit uncertain as he went back to Canaan to face
• 01:31 off his brother Esau.
• 01:35 ♪♪♪
• 01:39 male narrator: It had been nearly 21 years since Jacob had
• 01:41 seen his twin brother, Esau, and now, on his journey back through
• 01:45 Canaan, he is troubled by a message warning him that Esau is
• 01:49 coming with 400 men.
• 01:53 Because of Jacob, Esau had lost his birthright as well as his
• 01:57 father's blessing.
• 01:59 Bent on revenge, he had once sworn to slay his brother Jacob.
• 02:04 ♪♪♪
• 02:06 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 02:58 Jeffrey: Our story begins today with the hero being in
• 03:02 a really dark place.
• 03:05 I know the series is all about faith for the future,
• 03:09 but I'm telling you, he didn't have any,
• 03:13 at least, not at this moment.
• 03:16 The bottom fell out.
• 03:19 He was really in trouble.
• 03:21 Let's look at what the Bible says so you'll see that
• 03:24 I'm not exaggerating.
• 03:25 We're told in Genesis chapter 32,
• 03:28 verse 8 in the Hebrew rendition; others,
• 03:32 verse 7 says: "Jacob became extremely afraid and
• 03:38 distressed."
• 03:40 [speaking in Hebrew] in Hebrew,
• 03:43 [speaking in Hebrew],
• 03:45 that is, afraid and distressed.
• 03:48 The word [speaking Hebrew] is noted too: extremely.
• 03:52 We endeavored, of course, to bring that out in the drama so
• 03:55 you don't just capture the words,
• 03:58 but the emotion that comes along with it.
• 04:00 The first thing that comes to the fore relative to this story
• 04:03 is the fact that sometimes even in God's plan in his place,
• 04:07 we can become extremely upended.
• 04:13 God's working behind the scenes, but he's working with a human
• 04:16 being that doesn't see it.
• 04:19 Last time Jacob was where he is right now,
• 04:22 he was running from Canaan.
• 04:25 He had Israel in the rear view mirror.
• 04:27 But now he has it in the windshield and he's heading back
• 04:30 there and his unfinished business,
• 04:32 Esau, was bent on killing him.
• 04:34 And, quite frankly, brothers say,
• 04:35 "I'm gonna kill you, and I'm gonna kill you,"
• 04:37 they don't necessarily mean it.
• 04:38 Esau meant it and he had the capability to do it.
• 04:40 That's why Jacob's mom said, "You better get out of here.
• 04:44 You can't handle your brother."
• 04:46 But now, Mom's not there to protect him.
• 04:47 Circumstances eroded in Syria where he was.
• 04:50 This guy gets bounced around by circumstances.
• 04:53 Something falls apart, he goes there.
• 04:55 That falls apart, he goes there.
• 04:57 It looks like his world is coming to an end,
• 04:59 but God's just using those circumstances to get him where
• 05:02 he needs to go.
• 05:04 Interesting, isn't it, how God works providentially like that,
• 05:08 but he's working with a human being who's extremely upset.
• 05:11 He hears Esau's coming to greet him,
• 05:15 he knows Jacob's coming back to town after a little over
• 05:18 20 years, and it's not just Esau alone.
• 05:21 He's got 400 men.
• 05:22 Sounds like a war party to me, and Jacob knew he's capable of
• 05:25 exacting vengeance, as I'd said.
• 05:28 Well, what does he wanna do?
• 05:30 He wants to play his cards correctly.
• 05:32 When you go down to 21, and the verses might differ a little
• 05:34 between the way the reckoning exists here in the Hebrew Bible
• 05:38 and the English, but we're told here that Jacob looks to
• 05:41 appease him.
• 05:43 He sends gifts ahead in order to placate him,
• 05:48 in order to calm this thing down.
• 05:52 We're told as well, he sends gifts ahead of him with saying
• 05:56 then, afterward he wants to "see his face and perhaps he'll lift
• 06:02 up my face."
• 06:05 People talk about a downcast countenance and,
• 06:10 to be sure, this individual is working with it.
• 06:14 Well, the story plays out good enough.
• 06:17 Esau is minded to be kindly disposed toward him.
• 06:20 Of course, Jacob's sent a lot of gifts in advance to try and
• 06:24 warm his heart.
• 06:25 He knew that his brother was very materialistic and his
• 06:27 brother didn't have a mind for spiritual things,
• 06:31 which is part why he didn't get the birthright and
• 06:33 all the goodies.
• 06:34 He wouldn't have known what to do with it.
• 06:36 Jacob was the one who providentially was placed to
• 06:39 carry that into the future in part because Esau wasn't worthy
• 06:42 of doing it by virtue of these characteristics
• 06:46 I've just described.
• 06:47 Well, he placates him with gifts.
• 06:49 You know, in the Bible we're told to be wise as a serpent and
• 06:52 innocent as a dove.
• 06:55 I see some of that at play here but not just Jacob's sechel.
• 07:00 It's a Jewish term: not just his smarts.
• 07:02 God's working through it.
• 07:04 He and Esau get reconciled for the moment,
• 07:06 but Jacob's--you know, Esau says,
• 07:09 "Look, let me go with you and help you out."
• 07:11 Jacob says, "Look, you know, not so fast, you know.
• 07:15 That--you go ahead and, you know,
• 07:17 I'll catch up with you down the road."
• 07:18 He knew that Esau was very unstable and he might just
• 07:21 change his mind.
• 07:24 Well, I'll tell you someone who doesn't change his mind and
• 07:27 that's the Lord.
• 07:28 And God's working through this.
• 07:29 Jacob left with nothing but two nickels to rub together.
• 07:32 He comes back a very wealthy man but it's all in peril.
• 07:34 But God gets him past all that and he gets him one step closer
• 07:40 to his destiny as he's on the road,
• 07:42 walking by faith into his future.
• 07:46 female announcer: Our resource this week: the series,
• 07:49 "Faith for the Future: Our Journey with the Patriarchs,"
• 07:52 on DVD.
• 07:53 Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob put their faith in action,
• 07:56 changing the course of their lives,
• 07:58 leading to increased dependence on the Lord.
• 08:00 These ten programs feature Bible teaching by Dr. Jeffrey Seif
• 08:04 with special guest, Dr. Barri Seif,
• 08:07 plus dramatic reenactments filmed in Israel.
• 08:10 Contact us and ask for the DVD series,
• 08:13 "Faith for the Future."
• 08:17 ♪♪♪
• 08:22 ♪ Shaalu, shalom, Jerushalaim. ♪
• 08:26 ♪ Shaalu, shaalu, shalom. ♪
• 08:29 ♪ For the holy city of Jerusalem. ♪
• 08:37 ♪ We will pray for peace, shaalu, shalom. ♪
• 08:48 ♪ Shalom. ♪♪
• 08:55 David: All of us at this desk love Israel so much,
• 08:58 and Dr. Barri Seif is back with us.
• 09:00 And people ask us all the time, what is a favorite place that
• 09:06 you go in Israel and it's really hard for us to say.
• 09:09 How about you?
• 09:10 Dr. Barri Seif: Well, I love the landing.
• 09:11 I love it when people applaud when the plane lands
• 09:14 after that flight.
• 09:16 That's the hardest part of going Israel,
• 09:17 just that long flight getting there.
• 09:19 But also, Galilee, that area, because we know that is a place
• 09:23 where Yeshua was.
• 09:25 And then also Jerusalem because of the three face that converge
• 09:29 on that property and you see the different quarters,
• 09:33 the different flavors of people.
• 09:35 It's really a profound experience and I always like
• 09:39 to encourage people, "You need to come back to Israel
• 09:41 'cause you'll never see it all on a first trip."
• 09:44 David: It's very true, yup.
• 09:45 So, Kirsten, I thought you were gonna say flavors of food.
• 09:48 Kirsten: I was ready to say, "Oh,
• 09:50 I get you," on that.
• 09:52 David: Kirsten loves the food there.
• 09:53 I know you probably do too.
• 09:55 Barri: Oh my goodness, you can tell it's God's land when
• 09:56 you look at some of the vegetable sizes.
• 09:58 They're humongous and so good.
• 10:00 Kirsten: You eat fulfilled prophecy.
• 10:02 You're eating fulfilled prophecy.
• 10:05 Barri: That's beautiful, wow.
• 10:07 Kirsten: And so true, that's good.
• 10:09 Jeffrey: What makes me happy and I mean it sincerely is to
• 10:10 see the faces of the people that go there.
• 10:12 It's such a turn on for people to walk in the Bible lands and
• 10:16 to see it and experience it for the first,
• 10:18 second, time.
• 10:20 I kind of pick up some of that radiance.
• 10:22 It's like being at a wedding: you can't help but be a little
• 10:24 happy just to see the bride and the groom and I love the faces
• 10:26 of the people.
• 10:28 Kirsten: We love seeing the faces,
• 10:29 the people, in Israel.
• 10:31 We also love seeing the faces, the people,
• 10:33 from our Bible come alive.
• 10:35 We're back to do that right now.
• 10:37 Let's watch as Jacob has a nighttime wrestling match
• 10:40 with the divine.
• 10:45 male narrator: Thinking it best that he appease his brother,
• 10:48 Jacob met with his servants, saying,
• 10:51 "Maybe Esau will forgive me and accept me if I present
• 10:54 him gifts."
• 10:56 Specially selected herds of animals would be gathered and
• 11:00 sent ahead of their personal meeting.
• 11:03 His wives, maids, and children would also precede Jacob,
• 11:07 but first, that very evening there would be a remarkable
• 11:11 encounter with the divine that would change
• 11:15 Jacob's life forever.
• 11:18 ♪♪♪
• 11:31 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 12:01 ♪♪♪
• 12:07 Jeffrey: It was a dark night, it was a cold night.
• 12:10 Jacob found himself at a lonely place and what happened there,
• 12:15 in Hebrew it says: "Vaya'avek," that is that he wrestled.
• 12:21 And in that dark lonely place, he wrestled with God,
• 12:26 we're told.
• 12:28 I think, in fact, his whole life he had been wrestling.
• 12:31 He needed to wrestle, he needed to lose.
• 12:34 Strong guy, a lot of strength of his own person going,
• 12:36 and he had some issues in his own person that needed to get
• 12:39 polished up a little bit, but here we are.
• 12:41 He's making his way back to Israel to the place of his
• 12:45 destiny, of his future, to the place that's promised.
• 12:50 And we're told here, that night, he wrestles.
• 12:54 With God it was, in fact, and he goes on in verse 31.
• 12:57 In my version here, it says: [speaking in Hebrew]
• 13:02 "And Jacob named the place Peniel," from panim in Hebrew,
• 13:08 face, and el, God, 'cause he saw the face of God there.
• 13:13 [speaking in Hebrew] "I've seen God face to face."
• 13:21 I believe, personally, that people need to have that
• 13:25 face-to-face experience.
• 13:28 People wanna be led by God and have faith for the future.
• 13:32 Well, we need to see God face to face and be oriented
• 13:37 toward the future.
• 13:39 And that's what happens here.
• 13:41 As I began this segment with, he found himself in a dark place,
• 13:45 but then the light shined upon him.
• 13:47 Not one artificially lit by a fire,
• 13:50 but actually the face of God.
• 13:52 God showing up as he is now finally,
• 13:55 after over 20 years, making his way to his place.
• 14:01 In this series, we've talked about faith for the future.
• 14:06 Well, this Hebrew man's future was in Eretz Yisrael,
• 14:12 the Land of Israel, actually named after him.
• 14:15 His name was changed from Jacob to Israel.
• 14:17 And here he is, on the final approach, to use
• 14:20 airplane language,
• 14:21 he's making his way into his destiny.
• 14:24 And God shows up.
• 14:26 Actually, God had been with him the whole time.
• 14:28 He didn't always see him.
• 14:30 Here, there's this face-to-face seeing.
• 14:32 Sometimes, he just saw darkness.
• 14:34 Sometimes, he's wrestling.
• 14:37 Sometimes, things seem to be going against him.
• 14:39 It's not always easy to see the face of God and the hand of God
• 14:42 working through less than hoped-for circumstances.
• 14:45 But it was what it was, to get this man where he needed to be.
• 14:49 Whether it's him, whether it's me,
• 14:52 whether it's you, God has a way of leading us on
• 14:55 into the future.
• 14:56 Let's have faith for the future and,
• 14:59 when we do have faith in God for the future,
• 15:02 the future can be very, very bright.
• 15:08 My wife is gonna come in short order and close out this series,
• 15:11 at least a teaching segment here,
• 15:13 and I wanna thank you for going on the journey with me,
• 15:17 with us.
• 15:19 If you're at a place in life where you need some faith for
• 15:21 your future, open up the Bible.
• 15:25 What I've done here, well, what we've done,
• 15:27 through dramatic vignettes; through storytelling;
• 15:31 me, a little bit from the head as a professor type;
• 15:34 Barri, a doctor too, my wife, coming from the heart.
• 15:36 All of us, whether it's the production crew,
• 15:39 the actors and actresses, the teaching staff,
• 15:42 all of us, have endeavored to talk to you about faith for the
• 15:47 future because we believe that faith pays dividends.
• 15:52 If you're at a place in life where it's characterized by lack
• 15:56 of faith, that is, lack of belief of your own prospects for
• 16:00 the future, a lack of belief in God because you feel you've been
• 16:03 let down in the past, let me tell you,
• 16:07 get that shield of faith up.
• 16:09 Let me encourage you to turn to him.
• 16:11 He has a wonderful plan for your life.
• 16:14 He's not just about leading Abraham,
• 16:17 Isaac, and Jacob into their futures.
• 16:21 He's about leading me and you.
• 16:25 Kirsten: I grew up with an older brother and there were
• 16:29 times where we wrestled on shag carpeting but I've never
• 16:32 wrestled with an angel.
• 16:35 That's bizarre and crazy, isn't it?
• 16:38 How can Jacob win?
• 16:41 Jeffrey: [laughing]
• 16:42 I wrestle with an angel. This is my angel right here.
• 16:45 Kirsten: You get points for that one.
• 16:46 That's good.
• 16:48 Barri: Ahh, ha, ha.
• 16:49 Kirsten: Okay, I--we have two doctors right here,
• 16:51 brilliant theologians.
• 16:52 So, did Jacob need a humbling?
• 16:54 Is that what it's all about?
• 16:56 Barri: Well, I believe so.
• 16:59 I think that Jacob experienced brokenness,
• 17:03 not only physically but I believe in his heart,
• 17:07 in his spirit.
• 17:09 And yet God is adequate within that brokenness.
• 17:12 And God blessed him after than brokenness happened.
• 17:16 Kirsten: And the name "Israel," he got the
• 17:19 name "Israel."
• 17:20 Israel means wrestled with an angel, doesn't it?
• 17:22 Barri: Mm-hm.
• 17:23 Kirsten: Words--names are, like,
• 17:25 really literal in Hebrew, right?
• 17:27 Barri: Beautiful, yes.
• 17:28 Kirsten: One that wrestled with an angel.
• 17:30 Barri: Yes, and we see that name,
• 17:31 Israel, they're still wrestling today in the 21st century,
• 17:35 but God.
• 17:37 Kirsten: No, that's good. David: That's good.
• 17:39 We take you now to our last drama and then Dr. Seif,
• 17:42 Barri Seif, will give us some more insight.
• 17:45 Let's go to our drama now.
• 17:46 ♪♪♪
• 17:50 narrator: Jacob was relieved.
• 17:52 Thankfully, his meeting with Esau had been cordial and
• 17:55 without incident.
• 17:57 While Esau returned to the hills of Edom,
• 17:59 Jacob journeyed on through Canaan,
• 18:02 stopping at Succoth, Shechem, and Bethel.
• 18:07 It was here in Bethel that Jacob had previously anointed a stone
• 18:12 to make the place he called the gateway to heaven.
• 18:16 This house of God had been the site of his dream in which he
• 18:19 saw angels ascending and descending a heavenly ladder.
• 18:23 Here in Bethel, Jacob would once again hear the voice
• 18:27 of the Lord.
• 18:32 "And God said unto Jacob, 'I have changed your name
• 18:35 to Israel.
• 18:37 I am El Shaddai. Be fruitful and multiply.
• 18:41 A nation, indeed, a group of nations,
• 18:45 will come from you.
• 18:46 Kings will be descendent from you,
• 18:48 and the land which I gave to Abraham and Isaac,
• 18:50 to thee I will give it and to thy seed after thee
• 18:54 will I give the land."
• 18:58 This road had been well traveled.
• 19:01 Jacob's grandfather, Abraham, had walked it,
• 19:04 starting in Ur, then Haran, then on as an alien through the
• 19:11 land of Canaan.
• 19:13 His father, Isaac, had walked it,
• 19:15 this road of faith.
• 19:17 Yes, it had some difficult turns,
• 19:19 some narrow passageways, but in the end,
• 19:22 it carved its way to a better place.
• 19:25 This road will always be remembered as one of redemption,
• 19:32 of praise and celebration to the God of Israel
• 19:35 who transcends all time.
• 19:39 ♪♪♪
• 19:44 Barri: I love the country of Israel, modern Israel.
• 19:48 It's exciting, it's vibrant, but I didn't always used
• 19:52 to feel that way.
• 19:54 Before I was a believer, Israel was just another country over
• 19:57 there, across the pond.
• 19:59 My parents went to Israel on their 25th wedding anniversary.
• 20:04 But then, when I came to faith in Yeshua in 1980,
• 20:09 I was in between jobs in 1987, and I had an opportunity to go
• 20:15 serve with the Israeli Army on a program called Volunteers
• 20:19 for Israel.
• 20:21 I served for almost a month.
• 20:23 We wore the army uniform, we ate at the army base,
• 20:28 I lived in the Arab quarter of Tel Aviv.
• 20:33 It was a very difficult experience for me.
• 20:37 I realized that I truly was a Jewish American princess
• 20:42 because there was no air conditioning.
• 20:44 Culture shock, jet lag, language challenges,
• 20:47 and on top of all of that, spiritual warfare.
• 20:51 But I learned to be so blessed in the land.
• 20:55 Since that time, I've been back three dozen times.
• 20:59 Dr. Jeffrey Seif has been there over 50 times.
• 21:02 There's nothing like the land of Israel.
• 21:05 Now, in the late 1800s, Sir Wheatstone from Britain
• 21:11 developed a process called stereoscopy which incorporated
• 21:16 the three dimensions--length, width,
• 21:19 and height--but then the fourth dimension is time,
• 21:23 but when you go to Israel, you see the land and you see
• 21:28 the Bible in the fifth dimension.
• 21:30 That's spiritual dimension.
• 21:32 There's nothing like going to Israel.
• 21:35 Your Bible becomes alive.
• 21:37 It's exciting and I wanna encourage you that if you've
• 21:41 never been on a Zola tour, that--save your pennies and go.
• 21:46 That trip will change your life.
• 21:50 It will change your relationship with the Lord.
• 21:52 And it will count not only for now, but for eternity.
• 21:57 Shalom.
• 22:01 David: Join us right now for additional content that is only
• 22:03 available on our social media sites: Facebook,
• 22:07 YouTube, and Twitter.
• 22:09 Visit our website, levitt.com, for the current and past
• 22:12 programs, the television schedule,
• 22:15 tour information, and our free monthly newsletter which is full
• 22:18 of insightful articles and news commentary.
• 22:21 View it online or we can ship it directly to your mailbox
• 22:24 every month.
• 22:26 Also on our website is the online store.
• 22:28 There, you can order this week's resource or you can always give
• 22:31 us a call at 1-800-WONDERS.
• 22:35 Your donations to "Our Jewish Roots" help us to support these
• 22:39 organizations as they bless Israel.
• 22:42 Please remember we depend on tax-deductible donations from
• 22:45 viewers like you.
• 22:47 David: We've really enjoyed--we hope you've really
• 22:50 enjoyed having Dr. Barri Seif with us.
• 22:53 Thank you so much for your insight and--
• 22:55 Barri: It's a blessing.
• 22:56 David: --your teaching, along with your husband.
• 22:58 Kirsten: Wisdom.
• 23:00 Barri: It is a blessing, and fun.
• 23:01 David: Good. Kirsten: Good, good.
• 23:02 Well, you just bring a different angle.
• 23:04 Not that your angle isn't wonderful,
• 23:06 but together we're just thankful that we're all family and we're
• 23:09 a team that wants to bring faith for the future.
• 23:13 That's vitally important.
• 23:15 Jeffrey: You know, I was thrilled to have Barri onboard.
• 23:18 I was glad when our producer said, "Hey, Jeff.
• 23:19 Let's do it."
• 23:21 Because when we think of the footsteps of our forefathers,
• 23:23 it's easy to forget our foremothers.
• 23:25 Now I don't know if that's a name,
• 23:27 if that's a real word, but the truth is,
• 23:30 is these marvelous men were accompanied with
• 23:33 marvelous women.
• 23:34 And the journey of faith, it's something we all need today,
• 23:39 'cause we all, you know, we fret,
• 23:42 we're concerned about circumstances.
• 23:44 It hits me, it hits you, it hits you,
• 23:46 it hits all of us.
• 23:48 And I'm glad I make the journey with this wonderful woman.
• 23:50 I'm glad to be able to explore what the Bible says about
• 23:52 walking by faith in an uncertain future.
• 23:55 David: Yes, in your testimony back when you broke your feet--
• 23:58 Barri: Yeah.
• 23:59 Kirsten: Foot. Foot, right?
• 24:01 Barri: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:02 David: --you were in pain, but you heard from God
• 24:03 during that whole time and that's really incredible.
• 24:05 Barri: Well, when we go through those times,
• 24:06 I didn't wanna waste it.
• 24:08 I figured there was a purpose.
• 24:10 I wasn't doing anything wrong.
• 24:12 I just, you know, mis-stepped.
• 24:14 And so, God turned it around, made it work for good.
• 24:18 And it really was a lifetime lesson.
• 24:20 Up to that point, I had gotten my MBA,
• 24:23 had done marathons, but that was really an ultra-marathon.
• 24:27 But we have faith, just like Sarah,
• 24:30 and I really love that verse, Hebrews 11:11 that it says:
• 24:33 "By faith Sarah received the ability to conceive," beyond the
• 24:38 proper time, "because she considered him faithful
• 24:42 who promised."
• 24:43 And so I had to believe that God is faithful.
• 24:46 He's not a bad guy.
• 24:48 When I read in the Bible, "Delight yourself in the Lord;
• 24:50 he'll give you the desire of your heart," my desire was to be
• 24:53 vertical again, instead of horizontal and on a bed.
• 24:57 And I just kept believing and then he brought even better
• 25:02 fruit out of it.
• 25:03 David: There was a reason that that happened,
• 25:05 I think, for you to hear from the Lord.
• 25:07 Barri: Yes, and these patriarchal and matriarchal
• 25:11 couples, these individuals, give us the impetus to go forward to
• 25:15 believe against all odds and circumstances.
• 25:19 Kirsten: And for restoration where we saw in today's program
• 25:23 that Jacob and Esau were restored in fellowship and in
• 25:27 their relationship, and that's the God of restoration.
• 25:31 It's a beautiful story in the end.
• 25:33 Jeffrey: You made a point earlier about that too,
• 25:34 about wrestling with the angel.
• 25:37 In the Genesis text, we're told with the language that he
• 25:42 wrestled with God, but in Hosea 12,
• 25:46 therein the author gives voice to the messenger of God
• 25:49 or the angel of God.
• 25:51 We all wrestle a little bit with things divine on occasion,
• 25:54 don't we?
• 25:55 Barri: Mm-hm.
• 25:56 Kirsten: Right, and I just want whoever's watching this
• 25:59 right now, if you are hearing my voice,
• 26:01 if you might feel that you are in a time of wrestling with God,
• 26:04 so many people walk through that,
• 26:07 God is a God of peace, joy, restoration.
• 26:11 He wants to give you hope.
• 26:13 There is an end to the wrestling,
• 26:15 and he does restore relationship.
• 26:18 David: If we listen.
• 26:19 Kirsten: If we listen and obey, yeah.
• 26:21 It's good news.
• 26:23 Barri: Amen, and it's step by step.
• 26:24 I keep thinking about Abram and Sarai,
• 26:26 just that walking and the path, the journey,
• 26:30 that they're on.
• 26:32 It's just the same for us, step by step,
• 26:34 with a little bit of light for every step.
• 26:36 Jeffrey: You know, and at the end of the series,
• 26:39 I would encourage you to go back and look at some of these
• 26:42 because it's not just looking at the teaching of Jeffrey and
• 26:46 Barri Seif and the Harts, it's reconstructing biblical journey
• 26:51 story about people who brave the hazards of uncertainty and
• 26:54 came out victors at the end.
• 26:56 There's lessons for you, for God to speak to your heart by doing
• 27:00 your part and looking at the biblical testimony.
• 27:02 David: Thank you for your teaching,
• 27:04 for your insight.
• 27:05 Thank you for joining us at this desk.
• 27:07 Can't believe it's over.
• 27:09 Jeffrey: I wish it wasn't, but as you go,
• 27:11 Shaalu shalom Yerushalayim.
• 27:14 David: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
• 27:18 ♪ We'll give thanks for the peace of Jerusalem, ♪
• 27:21 ♪ peace on earth and goodwill to all men. ♪
• 27:30 ♪ And the hope of those at the Garden of Israel through ♪
• 27:35 ♪ his mighty arm and he brought us up from everywhere. ♪
• 27:40 ♪ The hope of those that our God has brought us ♪
• 27:42 ♪ home and we pray for peace. ♪
• 27:44 ♪ Yes, we pray, shaalu shalom. ♪
• 27:46 ♪ La, la, lye, ♪
• 27:48 ♪ lye, lye, La, la, lye, lye, lye, ♪
• 27:49 ♪ La, la, lye, lye, lye, Lye, lye, lye, ♪
• 27:52 ♪ lye, la, la, la, la. ♪
• 27:55 ♪ And the whole world knows that our God's brought us ♪
• 27:57 ♪ home and we pray for peace. ♪
• 27:59 ♪ Yes, we pray shaalu shalom. ♪♪
• 28:01 ♪♪♪
• 28:16 ♪♪♪
• 28:18 CC by Aberdeen Captioning 1-800-688-6621 www.abercap.com