Caption transcript for Revelation: Unveiling the Visions — “144,000 Jewish Believers” (6/8)

• 00:01 ♪♪♪
• 00:03 male announcer: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots" with
• 00:06 insightful Bible teaching by Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:09 ♪♪♪
• 00:19 ♪♪♪
• 00:28 David Hart: Thank you so much for joining us today.
• 00:30 I am David Hart.
• 00:31 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 00:33 Jeffrey Seif: And I am Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:34 And I think it's cool, chapter 14 of Revelation, 144,000 Jewish
• 00:38 believers with Jesus on Mount Zion.
• 00:40 Sounds like we're in Israel and we got Jews believing in Jesus.
• 00:43 That's what I'm talking about.
• 00:44 Kirsten: Really it's not the church that--the Christian
• 00:46 church standing there?
• 00:47 It's the Jewish people.
• 00:49 Jeffrey: Yeah, a lot of people taught,
• 00:50 "Forget Israel. Forget Jews."
• 00:52 But no one told the writer of Revelation.
• 00:55 Kirsten: It's good stuff. David: It is good stuff.
• 00:57 Kirsten: You're walking through three chapters today.
• 00:59 I mean, that could be weeks of teaching.
• 01:02 Jeffrey: Cecil B. DeMille said,
• 01:04 "Give me any two pages of the Bible, I can give
• 01:06 you an epic motion picture," especially with this stuff.
• 01:09 Kirsten: Right.
• 01:11 We see the infamous person coming out,
• 01:14 the anti-Christ today, right?
• 01:17 And there have been books written about him.
• 01:20 Jeffrey: Now, girl, I'm trying to keep it happy and
• 01:21 there you go; but no, it's true.
• 01:23 We got to take a look at the book.
• 01:25 Not called the anti-Christ here, but called the beast.
• 01:28 I mean, the imagery there is profound and scary.
• 01:31 We'll look at it.
• 01:32 Kirsten: But we have good--sorry.
• 01:34 Have to say we have good stuff coming too up and down the whole
• 01:36 Book of Revelation.
• 01:37 David: We start with chapter 14 today.
• 01:38 Take your Bible for Dr. Seif's teaching.
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• 01:47 Jeffrey: It amazes me how years removed from Jesus's death
• 01:51 and the destruction of Jerusalem that came years later; years
• 01:57 removed and many miles removed.
• 02:00 It's fascinating to me how biblical authors still orient
• 02:04 themselves to Jerusalem.
• 02:08 I mention that because here in the Book of Revelation we're
• 02:12 looking at a document penned around 95 AD.
• 02:16 John is out there in the sea, far away in proximity to Turkey,
• 02:23 and he has a vision in chapter 14.
• 02:26 Behold, he sees the lamb standing on Mount Zion in
• 02:33 Jerusalem surrounded by 144,000 Hebrews.
• 02:40 I find that interesting 'cause at the time of the writing, a
• 02:44 Jerusalem temple was leveled, Mount Zion was nothing.
• 02:48 It was a stationhouse for the 10th Legion Fretensis.
• 02:53 Actually, the symbol of the legion was a swine.
• 02:58 At the time of the writing, Jews were in fact
• 03:00 banished from the holy city.
• 03:02 But John looks over the horizon and he sees something
• 03:07 of a restoration.
• 03:09 He mentions these 144,000, and they have a mark.
• 03:16 I like to refer to it--to the mark as the mark of the best or
• 03:21 the mark of the blessed as opposed to the mark
• 03:24 of the beast.
• 03:26 I say that because we're told here with him were 144,000,
• 03:30 I mentioned that, and his name and his Father's name
• 03:35 was written on their foreheads.
• 03:37 I think that's rather interesting people here have the
• 03:39 mark of the beast written on the forehead.
• 03:41 Actually, the whole idea of having some kind of symbol
• 03:46 attached to the person through what we'd call a tattoo was more
• 03:50 common in century one than people realize.
• 03:54 Legions would have, you know, their tattoo or their legion,
• 03:58 the 12th legion on them.
• 04:00 Technology had developed as a way that people identified
• 04:03 with things.
• 04:05 Today, goodness, you go out on the beach and you see people
• 04:07 are all inked up.
• 04:09 It was less common in antiquity, but people did identify.
• 04:13 And we see that here the imagery plays off of that.
• 04:18 These are people who make a deliberate decision to be
• 04:21 identified with the lamb, even amidst the turbulence
• 04:24 of trying times.
• 04:25 I say that these are faithful witnesses to the Lord,
• 04:28 they're following him, but Jerusalem has gone.
• 04:32 It's a trying world, but these people have resolve.
• 04:38 So much good stuff in the literature.
• 04:40 There's an exhortation for perseverance, and why is that?
• 04:44 Because these people are going to have to go through
• 04:47 some stormy moments.
• 04:50 In fact--interestingly, as we make our way through the
• 04:53 chapter, we pivot from this glorious image of the faithful
• 05:01 walking with the Lord and this encouragement to persevere.
• 05:06 We pivot from that now and go to this image of a sickle that's
• 05:11 going to be put into the earth for the harvest.
• 05:14 Oh, you say, "Bearing fruit for the kingdom?"
• 05:16 No, this is a harvest of sour grapes.
• 05:20 The Bible talks about judgment.
• 05:23 We go down to verse 15.
• 05:25 "Put in your sickle and reap, for the hour to reap has come,
• 05:32 because the harvest of the earth is fully ripe."
• 05:39 As I mentioned, the chapter begins with a prophetic word
• 05:44 about the future; once again the faithful there at Zion, but
• 05:48 that's not the present from this author's perspective.
• 05:53 The present from his perspective is things are not right
• 05:57 in the world.
• 05:59 The world is up ended, and he is now going to pivot and give
• 06:04 voice to coming judgments.
• 06:06 Oh, there's an encouraging word still.
• 06:08 I'll get to it in the next segment.
• 06:10 But then we're bearing down on a world that is going
• 06:14 to incur God's wrath.
• 06:19 And if you've heard the old expression it gets darkest just
• 06:23 before the dawn, well, we'll look at Revelation at its
• 06:28 darkest, and we'll get to that in a moment.
• 06:31 It's good to know, however, that God's sun shines and there's a
• 06:35 little pun in all that, that he has a way of shining his graces
• 06:39 upon those who walk with him.
• 06:41 We'll get to that and more as we carry on, but let's leave it
• 06:45 for the next segment.
• 06:47 ♪♪♪
• 06:53 Jeffrey: It fascinates me how people that are full of faith
• 06:56 telescope into the future.
• 06:58 You know, a telescope looks way beyond the moment and you reach
• 07:01 out, out in--over the horizon as far as you can go and more.
• 07:06 Telescoping presses individuals to do that.
• 07:10 I say that because John is on record doing that here.
• 07:14 Fifteenth chapter is a good one.
• 07:16 They're not all good.
• 07:17 In fact, it's going to sour moving forward, but there's a
• 07:20 moment here the author sees a great and wonderful sign in
• 07:24 chapter 15, verse 1.
• 07:25 In verse 2 he sees something, and what does he see?
• 07:29 He sees those who are overcomers.
• 07:33 He sees they're standing and worshiping, and they're singing
• 07:37 a new song, the Song of Moses.
• 07:42 And it's interesting too because Revelation chapter 15 gives
• 07:45 voice to something that took place in Exodus chapter 15.
• 07:49 The numbers just so happened to line up, but what I want to do
• 07:52 is unpack what they're singing 'cause I want it to be your
• 07:56 message as well.
• 07:58 They sing in verse 3, "Great and wonderful are your deeds.
• 08:04 Adonai Elohei Tzva'ot."
• 08:06 Great and wonderful are your deeds, oh Lord Almighty,
• 08:10 oh Lord of hosts.
• 08:12 Now, the truth of the matter is, not all is well on planet earth.
• 08:16 Not everything is great, not everything is wonderful, and
• 08:20 some people wonder if God's even involved in it.
• 08:24 But these people with faith even amidst the turbulence of trying
• 08:28 times, they don't lose their perspective that God is at work
• 08:32 in the world to bring about his good purposes, and that's a key
• 08:35 for success in life and walking with the Lord.
• 08:38 You might find yourself in the shadow of death, but you still
• 08:40 want to look to the author of life.
• 08:42 He says, "Just and true are your ways, O king of the nations."
• 08:49 Well, first of all, it doesn't look like God is the king of the
• 08:51 nations because the devil, the ruler of this world, is just
• 08:54 playing around in the sandbox.
• 08:56 But this author, these people give voice to the fact that
• 09:00 faith sees that ultimately God is the one who is in control.
• 09:05 And though his ways aren't always discernible, nevertheless
• 09:09 they give voice to the fact that still they are just and true.
• 09:14 He asks a question rhetorically.
• 09:16 "Who shall not fear and glorify your name, O Lord?"
• 09:19 Truth of the matter is many don't fear or glorify.
• 09:23 The world is in a state of debauchery and decay, but this
• 09:26 is the assembly of the righteous.
• 09:29 They will reverence him and glorify him.
• 09:32 And he says, "For you alone are holy, and all the nation shall
• 09:36 come and worship before you."
• 09:41 It's fascinating 'cause we're at a point in time here where the
• 09:44 emperor is galvanizing worship, that all should
• 09:47 do obeisance to him.
• 09:50 And by the way, these believers don't burn incense to him.
• 09:53 They don't give him--they don't say their pledge of allegiance
• 09:57 to the emperor, and they stand out and are persecuted by virtue
• 10:01 of the fact that they don't do that.
• 10:04 Well, here we're told that the righteous are the ones saying,
• 10:07 "God, it's only to you."
• 10:09 They not only have a prophetic picture that gives them
• 10:13 encouragement for their own destiny, but they give voice to
• 10:16 the fact here: "All nations shall come
• 10:19 and worship before you."
• 10:22 And at this sense, the rebels.
• 10:24 In the empire, the emperor was beckoning that worship
• 10:29 should be directed to him.
• 10:31 They say no, that at some point in time the earth is going to
• 10:36 acknowledge he who really is the King of kings and the Lord
• 10:41 of lords, and this is not the emperor who sits in Rome.
• 10:48 This author is going to go on with prophetic vision to cast
• 10:52 aspersions on that whole empire system with its wickedness.
• 10:58 He envisions a point in time when all of that is displaced
• 11:02 when God's kingdom comes, when his will is done on earth
• 11:06 as it is in heaven.
• 11:08 And that's the Lord's Prayer, is it not?
• 11:10 He says, "All nations will come and worship you,
• 11:13 for your righteous acts have been revealed."
• 11:19 His righteous acts have been revealed to them,
• 11:24 but it hasn't yet been fully and finally manifest.
• 11:29 All that said, he goes on to say in verse 5, "After these things,
• 11:33 I looked and the temple of the tent of witness
• 11:37 in heaven was opened."
• 11:39 As I opened in the program, the temple had long
• 11:41 since been destroyed.
• 11:42 There was just nothing there but the 10th Legion Fretensis,
• 11:46 which was an insult, an affront to Biblical religion.
• 11:50 But this author sees that all is not well but all is not lost
• 11:58 because he knows that God has a plan and a purpose, and he sees
• 12:03 in the heavenly court, in the heavenly temple it's opened up
• 12:09 and something is coming; and what's coming is retribution,
• 12:15 what's coming is a world where sinners are going to find
• 12:20 themselves in the hand of an angry God.
• 12:23 That's what's coming.
• 12:25 It's a tough story.
• 12:27 We have to look at it.
• 12:29 We have to go to it and we have to go through it, and we'll come
• 12:32 out the other end of it.
• 12:34 I'm mentioning that because chapter 16
• 12:36 is a rollercoaster ride.
• 12:38 There's turbulence as we fly through the air making our way
• 12:41 through the end of Revelation, but worry not.
• 12:44 There's a safe and glorious landing.
• 12:46 More to come.
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• 14:12 Kirsten: In Dr. Seif's next teaching segment, he'll be
• 14:15 mentioning Armageddon and also Mount Megiddo.
• 14:18 Here's the exciting thing.
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• 14:55 Jeffrey: The word is nefarious.
• 14:58 It means inherently evil.
• 15:01 I mention that because Revelation 16 gives a window
• 15:06 into evil at work at the latter edge of time, an evil that
• 15:12 mobilizes people for war, carnage, destruction.
• 15:18 Oh, to be sure, the 16th chapter of the Book of Revelation is not
• 15:23 an easy read, much like Exodus.
• 15:27 In days gone by, there's plagues, darkness; there's
• 15:31 earthquakes, there's boils, there's miseries, there's
• 15:35 upheavals, but within that something new emerges
• 15:41 that we don't see in Exodus.
• 15:45 We see an anti-Christ, a smooth talker going before him;
• 15:53 according to the literature are demonic spirits that as I'd said
• 15:57 a moment ago that mobilize people for a war--a great war,
• 16:04 a long anticipated war.
• 16:08 In the 16th chapter in verse 13, speaking of an unlucky number,
• 16:14 the author says, "I saw coming," he says--I'm skipping.
• 16:19 "These unclean spirits."
• 16:22 In verse 14, we're told these are demonic spirits performing
• 16:28 miraculous signs, who go out to the kings of the whole world to
• 16:36 gather them for battle on the great day of the Lord of hosts
• 16:44 or the Lord Almighty.
• 16:47 This author gives voice to the whole earth being mobilized.
• 16:52 This is not a regional spat.
• 16:57 This is someone that has power to bring them all in in some
• 17:01 sense, and he brings them to battle and he takes them to a
• 17:06 place we're told in verse 16.
• 17:11 He says, "The spirits gathered the kings to the place called in
• 17:18 Hebrew Har-Megiddo.
• 17:22 Har is mountain, Megiddo is the place commonly referred to as
• 17:27 Armageddon.
• 17:30 Now, let me make a point here that in our world today even
• 17:34 people that aren't religious TV watchers or churchgoers.
• 17:40 In their own estimation, they'd consider themselves
• 17:44 atheist or agnostic.
• 17:46 Even amongst those that have no biblical literacy to speak of,
• 17:52 when you say the word Armageddon, in their mind it
• 17:55 conjures up this climactic battle
• 18:00 at the ragged edge of history.
• 18:05 A religious battle has something to do with the Middle East.
• 18:09 There's some vague awareness of that for people
• 18:12 that are--aren't aware of things of the Lord at all.
• 18:17 They get it from here.
• 18:19 Armageddon isn't just a name.
• 18:22 It's an actual place.
• 18:26 It's not just a place in biblical literature.
• 18:30 It's a place here, and I'm looking at a map of Israel.
• 18:37 Jerusalem here, what's called the West Bank here.
• 18:42 Right here Megiddo exists.
• 18:47 I've been there with tourists and film crews many times
• 18:52 because people are fascinated by the place.
• 18:56 It's a grand vista that overlooks a valley;
• 18:59 a large valley, a verdant valley, a fruitful valley.
• 19:05 And everyone who is anyone in war knows that if you're
• 19:09 bringing forces into this region for a battle, you have to park
• 19:13 them for a season at Megiddo to freshen up.
• 19:18 This is a major staging area, and it's been for centuries.
• 19:26 That's why there's some 20, 21 or so layers here at Armageddon
• 19:30 of different kings that are fortified it because they've
• 19:34 known that they've had to secure this place to control the valley
• 19:39 'cause this is the entrance way down to Jerusalem.
• 19:44 Oh, there's a war coming.
• 19:48 This, by the way, is one of the reasons why I think Israel is
• 19:55 important for prophetic purposes.
• 19:59 People say--and I get it.
• 20:01 They say, "You know, Revelation is hard to understand."
• 20:04 And indeed it is because we're using language that comes from
• 20:09 century one; picture language, colorful language that doesn't
• 20:13 necessarily speak to moderns.
• 20:16 Moderns aren't aware of all that, but moderns increasingly
• 20:20 are aware of this, that Israel has been reborn recently.
• 20:26 Moderns understand that the attempts of men not withstanding
• 20:30 Am Yisrael Chai, the people of Israel live, and people will
• 20:34 say, "Oh, that's miraculous."
• 20:37 People can feel the tension.
• 20:39 When they turn on the news, they see the Jews,
• 20:42 among other things.
• 20:44 Oh, there's something happening, and it's fascinating to me
• 20:48 how it dovetails with the prophetic Word.
• 20:51 There's so much to say about it.
• 20:53 That's why we're doing a last day series on Revelation and
• 20:58 we're trying to pull back the veil and take a look
• 21:01 at the visions.
• 21:03 More to come on "Our Jewish Roots."
• 21:07 ♪♪♪
• 21:17 ♪♪♪
• 21:26 ♪ Someday the stranger will cover his plan. ♪
• 21:33 ♪ Someday the battle will raise. ♪
• 21:40 ♪ In that day I'll raise my mighty honor above all. ♪
• 21:47 ♪ I'll curse him who curse thee, ♪
• 21:51 ♪ and bless him who blesses thee. ♪
• 21:59 ♪♪♪
• 22:06 ♪ Israel have I chosen. ♪
• 22:11 ♪ Jacob have I loved. ♪
• 22:16 ♪ I led them through the wilderness, ♪
• 22:21 ♪ gave them my love. ♪
• 22:26 ♪ Hear me here, oh Israel. ♪
• 22:30 ♪ I am the Lord your God. ♪
• 22:36 ♪ Israel have I chosen. ♪
• 22:42 ♪ Jacob have I loved. ♪♪
• 22:52 ♪♪♪
• 22:57 David: That was a song from our founder, Zola Levitt.
• 22:59 Today's program is about worship.
• 23:02 Jeffrey: Well, it's in there, you know.
• 23:04 To be sure, chapter 15 is just this great piece.
• 23:07 Kirsten: And a worship service.
• 23:09 I love that it says there are going to be new songs,
• 23:13 new songs.
• 23:14 You try to get new songs all the time with your worship leading.
• 23:17 David: Sometimes people don't like the new songs that we sing.
• 23:20 They want the old.
• 23:21 Jeffrey: Yeah, I think contextually here the issue
• 23:23 is that a lot of people, the narrative internally
• 23:25 is despaired, decayed, disorientation,
• 23:28 but then they have a new disposition that gives birth
• 23:30 to new speech and to celebrate and put it to music,
• 23:33 and that's definitely what's at play in the literature.
• 23:35 Kirsten: I love--they tie back to Song of Moses.
• 23:39 This is not anything anti-Jewish right there, is it?
• 23:44 We're going all the way back to Moses, a Song of Moses.
• 23:47 It's just beautiful to me. I love it.
• 23:49 Jeffrey: It's interesting.
• 23:50 Some people want to dump the older testament.
• 23:52 "That's the Jew book. We have the new book."
• 23:53 But this author never got the message.
• 23:55 He's harking back to Moshe Rabbenu,
• 23:57 to Moses, to a famous song.
• 24:00 You know, the Hebrews went through a bad way in Egypt,
• 24:02 but it was deliverance.
• 24:03 Similarly, here reminded of is the fact
• 24:06 that difficulties notwithstanding.
• 24:07 There's deliverance that's forthcoming, and here they're
• 24:10 celebrating this new deliverance with a new song
• 24:13 to the point made earlier.
• 24:14 David: So Scripture is telling us about what it's going
• 24:17 to be like someday when we get to heaven.
• 24:20 Any surprises?
• 24:21 Jeffrey: About?
• 24:23 David: About what it's going to be like?
• 24:25 Jeffrey: Well, yeah.
• 24:26 The fact is that that eternal life, that redemption, that
• 24:28 grace, we don't have to wait till then in order to get it.
• 24:30 On the other side of the grave, you know, what no eye has seen,
• 24:33 ear heard, or heart of man conceive of God is laid up for
• 24:36 those who love him, but eternal life starts now.
• 24:38 This blessing is now.
• 24:39 There's even deliverance now for people,
• 24:41 and that's the good news.
• 24:43 Too much of church talks about, "Accept Jesus Christ and you can
• 24:45 have it all good on the other side of the grave."
• 24:48 Eternal life starts now, and Yeshua comes into our life now
• 24:51 and this deliverance for the making now.
• 24:55 Kirsten: Hearken back. Hearken back.
• 24:56 I hardly ever use that in real life.
• 24:58 Hearken back to your first segment.
• 25:00 I love what you said.
• 25:02 You talked about the writer of Revelation and the writers in
• 25:04 the book, they always focus back to Jerusalem.
• 25:08 It is the holy city, and everything in this world,
• 25:11 beginning and end times, focuses on one place.
• 25:16 Jeffrey: That gives me an opportunity to talk about this
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• 25:21 In fact, the vision that you see on television
• 25:24 right now, you paid for it.
• 25:25 The backdrop here is Jerusalem, and we'd like to take people
• 25:30 back to what God was up to when he walked in Israel in the flesh
• 25:36 in the person of Jesus, Yeshua.
• 25:39 We want to take people back to what God will be doing forward
• 25:42 when we look prophetically at Israel.
• 25:45 Let me just say while speaking to that.
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• 25:52 Here they're worshiping God in song.
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• 26:52 Kirsten: Thank you so much for opening the book, unveiling
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