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Fighting for the Promised Land
We examine the battle at Hazor, where Joshua secured the northern territories for Abraham’s offspring.
Air dates: 2021-Aug-11
Production Code: 2124
Episode 5 of 8 in the series “Eretz Israel (The Land of Israel) (2021)”
Duration: 28:30
Year: 2021
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Caption transcript for Eretz Israel (The Land of Israel) (2021): “Fighting for the Promised Land” (5/8)
- 00:03 male announcer: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots," with
 - 00:06 insightful Bible teaching from Israel by Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
 - 00:09 We traveled to Hazor today on "Eretz Israel:
 - 00:13 The Land of Israel."
 - 00:17 ♪♪♪
 - 00:25 announcer: Look to the north, the south, the east, the west.
 - 00:35 ♪♪♪
 - 00:41 announcer: All the land which thou seeth, to thee will I give
 - 00:45 it and to thy seed forever.
 - 00:50 Indeed, he who watches over Israel
 - 00:53 will neither slumber nor sleep.
 - 00:56 ♪♪♪
 - 01:03 announcer: Eretz Israel.
 - 01:05 ♪♪♪
 - 01:12 David Hart: We are so glad you've joined
 - 01:13 us today, I am David Hart.
 - 01:14 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
 - 01:16 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: And I am Jeffrey Seif.
 - 01:18 And we are going back to one of my favorite places in Israel,
 - 01:23 the north, a place called Hazor.
 - 01:25 I love filming here.
 - 01:27 Kirsten: You know what, we see it from the right side
 - 01:29 of the bus as we're driving up north, and it's like, "That's--"
 - 01:32 And we get a little history lesson of it on tour,
 - 01:34 but we've never been.
 - 01:36 And you have. Ooh.
 - 01:38 Dr. Seif: Maybe it's not much to look at from a bus, you know?
 - 01:40 People have to be selective on where they stop to get in all
 - 01:44 the major Bible sites.
 - 01:45 This is an important site because it so
 - 01:47 corroborates the biblical text.
 - 01:50 The Bible speaks of a great conflagration there,
 - 01:53 a great battle, a great fire at a certain point in time,
 - 01:56 and you can go and look at the ruin and see the burn marks.
 - 02:00 And the carbon dating goes back to that very time.
 - 02:04 It gives a credibility to biblical literature that
 - 02:07 wouldn't otherwise be there.
 - 02:09 Kirsten: They've always been fighting--
 - 02:11 we talk about this too--
 - 02:12 always been fighting for that land.
 - 02:14 Here's a question. Please don't write in to me.
 - 02:17 I'm just--I don't wanna say someone else's advocate,
 - 02:20 but here's a question.
 - 02:21 Shouldn't they just be content?
 - 02:23 Shouldn't Israel right now just be content
 - 02:24 with the land that they have?
 - 02:26 Dr. Seif: Well, I think contentment is a recipe
 - 02:30 for disaster in life.
 - 02:31 I don't think I should be content
 - 02:33 with the physical body that I have.
 - 02:35 I need to work at keeping it healthy,
 - 02:37 and Israel certainly needs to work at keeping her borders
 - 02:40 secure and established.
 - 02:43 I don't wanna be lazy with it.
 - 02:44 It's the beginning of undoing, in my opinion.
 - 02:48 David: Dr. Seif will be teaching on Joshua chapter 11,
 - 02:51 but right now let's step back in time to that ancient city.
 - 02:57 announcer: "And Joshua took Hazor, and smote the king
 - 03:00 thereof with the sword: for Hazor beforetime
 - 03:04 was the head of all those kingdoms.
 - 03:07 And they smote all the souls that were therein with the
 - 03:10 sword, utterly destroying them: and he burnt Hazor with fire.
 - 03:17 So Joshua took the whole land, according to all that the Lord
 - 03:21 said unto Moses; and Joshua gave it for an inheritance unto
 - 03:25 Israel according to their divisions by their tribes.
 - 03:29 And the land rested from war."
 - 03:38 Dr. Seif: I can almost hear the sound of trampling boots,
 - 03:41 sword against sword as a great conflagration took place in
 - 03:45 northern Israel, a place that we're etching our way towards
 - 03:49 step by step by step.
 - 03:51 Come with me now.
 - 03:53 We're looking at yesterday.
 - 03:55 Let's visit it today.
 - 03:56 The battle of Hazor.
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 - 04:45 Dr. Seif: It took a long time for them to get here.
 - 04:49 On the way, there were various battles
 - 04:52 with Transjordanian kings.
 - 04:55 There was the famous battle of Jericho.
 - 04:59 There was the necessity of defeating the coalition of
 - 05:02 southern Canaanite peoples, and then it was time to take the
 - 05:06 battle to the north as God's people were securing
 - 05:11 their place in God's land.
 - 05:14 Let me show you on this map.
 - 05:17 So, we're looking at a picture here of the
 - 05:19 world in Joshua's day.
 - 05:21 We have the Great Sea, so called, the Mediterranean.
 - 05:24 The Jordan River,
 - 05:25 Bible readers are familiar with this, and
 - 05:27 of course, the peaceful Sea of Galilee.
 - 05:30 What we're not so familiar with is the northern campaign,
 - 05:33 a place that was not so peaceful,
 - 05:35 a place called Hazor, right here,
 - 05:39 and we're gonna visit that very place.
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 - 06:07 Dr. Seif: The southern campaign had gone remarkably
 - 06:10 well, much to the chagrin of the locals.
 - 06:14 So, you might recall sometime prior, the Israelites were in
 - 06:17 dread fear because the locals were so tall and they felt like
 - 06:20 grasshoppers, but here the fortunes of war has shifted.
 - 06:24 The southern federation of Canaanite peoples had been
 - 06:28 decimated, and word gets up north,
 - 06:32 and there's trouble in river city.
 - 06:34 There's a King Jabin--it's a dynastic name--and he will
 - 06:38 mobilize a federation of northern Canaanite peoples,
 - 06:43 to use that term broadly, and there will be a battle royal.
 - 06:49 Before I show you from the Scripture,
 - 06:51 let me pull out a map.
 - 06:53 It's not your modern garden variety map,
 - 06:56 but something that might have been used--akin to what had been
 - 07:00 used by the locals when they fought here many,
 - 07:04 many, many years ago.
 - 07:07 And just to show, if you will, this is the Mediterranean.
 - 07:11 The Romans called it Mare Nostrum.
 - 07:13 I know that I'm getting ahead, called Our Sea.
 - 07:17 And the reason why I mentioned it is that Jabin here at Hazor
 - 07:21 was so famous that ancient documents in form of political
 - 07:25 alliances that he had with the states out into the
 - 07:29 sea--Phoenicians, the Cretans in Cyprus.
 - 07:34 And he was well connected politically,
 - 07:36 as I'd noted earlier, with all the peoples round about,
 - 07:40 and he is going to mobilize his energies to hold at bay these
 - 07:45 encroaching Israelites that are there with a sense of a divine
 - 07:49 mandate that God has spoken to Moses and directed them onward,
 - 07:55 and Joshua is going onward.
 - 07:58 We're going to hear from Amnon Ben-Tor, professor at Hebrew
 - 08:03 University, who's going to talk a little bit about Hazor,
 - 08:07 and then I wanna talk a little about the tribal area
 - 08:10 round about, and then open up the Bible to consider the story.
 - 08:15 Dr. Amnon Ben-Tor: We have a huge destruction
 - 08:17 of the Canaanite city.
 - 08:18 Wherever we dig, whether it is on the Acropolis,
 - 08:22 whether it is in the lower city, the Canaanite period ends
 - 08:26 with a huge destruction.
 - 08:28 Sometimes more than a meter of debris--ashes,
 - 08:33 wood, bricks, fallen bricks, mutilated statues,
 - 08:38 and the like--which indicate, first of all,
 - 08:41 that the disaster was human-made.
 - 08:43 It's no earthquake, because no earthquake would mutilate the
 - 08:46 statues in a systematic way, so it was manmade.
 - 08:50 And by now we can narrow it down to about the middle
 - 08:55 of the 13th century B.C.
 - 08:58 If we're talking about biblical sites,
 - 09:00 Hazor is the number one site.
 - 09:02 There is no other which can even get close,
 - 09:05 because if you're talking just about the period
 - 09:08 which we have, you want the Canaanites?
 - 09:09 You have them.
 - 09:11 You want the destruction of Joshua?
 - 09:12 You have.
 - 09:14 You want judges? You have.
 - 09:15 You want Solomon? You have.
 - 09:17 You want Jeroboam? You have.
 - 09:19 You want Ahab? You have.
 - 09:21 You want Pekah? You have.
 - 09:22 You can show.
 - 09:24 You can have the debate at Hazor.
 - 09:27 You can show, "This is the gate which according to the Bible was
 - 09:29 built by Solomon, in the time of Solomon."
 - 09:32 Now, you tell me it was not.
 - 09:33 Let's argue about it. You see what I mean?
 - 09:35 But that there's no other site which has that many strata which
 - 09:41 are somehow related to the biblical narrative.
 - 09:45 Dr. Seif: I have here Hazor in a bolder,
 - 09:50 darker print and round about in a lighter print a notation of
 - 09:54 the tribes who, after the conquest of the south and the
 - 09:59 north and some other ancillary battles, eventually are going to
 - 10:03 go to their inheritance.
 - 10:05 And I wanna note that there was an inheritance that was given to
 - 10:08 the people of Israel in this land,
 - 10:10 an inheritance that was yesterday,
 - 10:12 today, and continues on into tomorrow.
 - 10:16 While speaking of yesterday, today,
 - 10:18 and tomorrow, let's open up the eternal Word and consider
 - 10:23 something of what's noted therein.
 - 10:25 And where else would I wanna go but to the book
 - 10:28 of Joshua the 11th chapter.
 - 10:31 It's always nice to see how biblical archaeology
 - 10:34 corroborates the biblical text.
 - 10:37 We're going to consider a great war that was fought here in
 - 10:41 Hazor, and you can even see the burn marks.
 - 10:45 The biblical testimony is very clear that there was esh,
 - 10:49 Hebrew word for fire, and it's noted in the bricks.
 - 10:53 It's noted in the mud even many years later.
 - 10:57 These stones are crying out and saying,
 - 11:01 "You can trust this literature."
 - 11:03 Well, what does the text say in
 - 11:05 Joshua chapter 11, verse 1?
 - 11:07 "It came to pass that Jabin king of Hazor heard these things--"
 - 11:12 Jabin was a dynastic name that had gone on for centuries.
 - 11:16 What things did he hear?
 - 11:18 He heard about the Israelite conquest of the south,
 - 11:22 and he was not a happy camper.
 - 11:26 We read on in the literature, he mobilizes peoples round about,
 - 11:30 and there is a battle royal that is fought here.
 - 11:35 We're told in verse 10, however, difficulties notwithstanding,
 - 11:39 that Joshua, he was successful in his endeavors,
 - 11:44 and that Hazor was struck, and the king was struck with the
 - 11:48 edge of the sword, an expression that denotes victory.
 - 11:53 We're told in verse 12, "All the cities of the kings,
 - 11:57 and all their kings, Joshua took and struck--"
 - 12:02 Again, a battle royal, a battle that went to the Hebrews.
 - 12:07 I want you to look with me, please.
 - 12:09 We're told in verse 18 that war went for a long time.
 - 12:13 Not every trial in life goes away just like that.
 - 12:15 Sometimes you have to walk it out,
 - 12:17 but there's a positive end result.
 - 12:19 Go with me, please, to verse 23.
 - 12:21 We're told that "Joshua took the whole land according--"
 - 12:26 Now, this is important to me. It's not just a war.
 - 12:29 We're told that it's according to all that the
 - 12:31 Lord had said to Moses.
 - 12:34 There's divine promise in this.
 - 12:37 This is called the Promised Land because from on high it's
 - 12:40 commended, a certain place is commended to a certain people.
 - 12:44 We're told because the Lord said to Moses, and Joshua gave it
 - 12:48 as an inheritance to Israel according to their divisions.
 - 12:55 What do we note from the biblical text?
 - 12:58 We note that there was a battle, a battle royal that raged,
 - 13:02 and we know that it went to Israel.
 - 13:04 And it wasn't just the good fortunes of war,
 - 13:06 but rather it's God himself leading a particular people to a
 - 13:10 particular place to accomplish his particular purposes.
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 - 15:33 Some great places, one that we're talking about today.
 - 15:36 Kirsten: Right, at the beginning of our program, Jeff was at
 - 15:39 Hazor, the ancient city, and we pass by that.
 - 15:43 Here's the thing: not every tour that goes to the Holy Land
 - 15:46 goes to northern Israel.
 - 15:48 Lots of times they'll stop at Sea of Galilee,
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 - 15:51 We take you way up north, and the Jordan River valley
 - 15:56 is gorgeous and lush.
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 - 16:39 David: The Burma Road is an important road.
 - 16:41 David Dolan takes us there right now.
 - 16:45 Dr. Seif: This is a model of the Burma Road,
 - 16:48 a strategic road for survival constructed by Israeli Forces
 - 16:51 during the War of Independence.
 - 16:54 David Dolan joins us now to tell us more about that road and the
 - 16:58 miraculous story against encroaching Arab forces.
 - 17:04 David Dolan: The day after the UN Partition Plan was
 - 17:06 approved in New York, the fighting over this land began.
 - 17:10 Irregular Arab Forces from Iraq, from Syria,
 - 17:14 from Jordan, from Lebanon, and from Egypt crossed over.
 - 17:17 Others came from Libya and farther away to help the local
 - 17:21 Arabs, the Fedayeen, in the battle against the Jews.
 - 17:24 The British were still here, but they mostly stood on the
 - 17:27 sidelines and let the Jews fight for themselves.
 - 17:29 But they hadn't allowed the Jewish community here
 - 17:32 to bring in heavy weapons.
 - 17:34 They had no aircraft. They had no actual tanks.
 - 17:37 They just had the arms they were manufacturing themselves,
 - 17:40 light arms, for the most part.
 - 17:42 The Arabs were convinced that they would swiftly defeat the
 - 17:45 Jews and there would be no Jewish state when the British
 - 17:48 left in the middle of May.
 - 17:50 The fighting became fierce in February and March.
 - 17:53 Tiberias was captured on April 19, Haifa on April 23.
 - 17:58 The fighting spread down to the Tel Aviv area.
 - 18:00 Jaffa was captured by the Jewish forces on May 12.
 - 18:05 Meanwhile, Palestinians, Arabs started to flee their
 - 18:08 homes in greater numbers.
 - 18:09 Some 20,000 had fled by May 15.
 - 18:13 They were convinced they would soon come back to their homes
 - 18:16 after the war was easily won by the Arab powers around them.
 - 18:20 The road to Jerusalem, the main road connecting Tel Aviv and the
 - 18:23 coastal areas to the Jewish community in western Jerusalem,
 - 18:26 was cut off in the fierce battles.
 - 18:28 It was then reopened, but after the declaration of independence
 - 18:32 on May 15, the Jordanian army, the Jordanian Arab League
 - 18:36 Forces, joined the battle.
 - 18:38 They were very well trained by the British.
 - 18:40 They circumvented Jerusalem and came down the hill
 - 18:43 to the Latrun Junction.
 - 18:45 Fierce battles took place there, and they defeated the Jewish
 - 18:48 forces, and again the road was completely closed.
 - 18:52 No supplies were getting up to the
 - 18:53 Jewish community in Jerusalem.
 - 18:55 Food was short, water was running out,
 - 18:57 medicines were running out, so the Jews opened an alternative
 - 19:01 route, and we're standing at the site where that began.
 - 19:04 It was dubbed the Burma Road after the great road that was
 - 19:07 opened during World War II by the Allies connecting Burma to
 - 19:10 China, and it succeeded in bringing supplies around the
 - 19:14 main road up into Jerusalem.
 - 19:16 And you can see part of the road behind me here.
 - 19:19 The battles were fierce, and by the middle of June, the Arabs
 - 19:23 had tired of the battle.
 - 19:24 They were not fighting very well anymore.
 - 19:27 The Jews were continuing to fight back with strength.
 - 19:29 Historians say it's because the Jews
 - 19:32 were fighting for their lives.
 - 19:33 They knew their country was going to be destroyed
 - 19:36 if they lost this war.
 - 19:38 Many of them were Holocaust survivors that literally got off
 - 19:41 of the boats from Europe and were given a gun and told
 - 19:43 to go to the warfront.
 - 19:45 Their motivation was extremely high.
 - 19:47 A truce was declared on June 10.
 - 19:49 During this period of fighting, another 200,000 to 300,000
 - 19:53 Palestinians had fled their homes.
 - 19:56 Most of them didn't go to other countries, though.
 - 19:58 They went to the areas that the partition plan designated
 - 20:00 for a Jewish state.
 - 20:02 They went to family homes in Judea and Samaria.
 - 20:05 They went to homes in the Gaza Strip and other areas,
 - 20:08 but about a third went to Jordan and to Lebanon
 - 20:11 and to Syria and other places.
 - 20:13 Fighting resumed on July 8 and lasted till July 18.
 - 20:17 Another 20,000 to 30,000 Arabs fled their homes during this
 - 20:20 time, and this was the only time that the Israeli Forces
 - 20:24 deliberately evacuated some of the Arabs from their homes.
 - 20:28 That was in two towns, Ramle and Lydda,
 - 20:30 right next to the vital Ben Gurion Airport,
 - 20:33 the only airport in the country at that time.
 - 20:37 There was another ceasefire, as I said,
 - 20:39 in July, and that lasted until mid-October when fighting began
 - 20:44 again, and during this time, this third period of fighting,
 - 20:47 the Jews succeeded in reopening the road from Tel Aviv to
 - 20:51 Jerusalem, and this Burma bypass was no longer so essential.
 - 20:56 More Palestinians fled their homes during this time.
 - 20:59 The UN said that the total Palestinian refugee
 - 21:02 flight was 726,000.
 - 21:05 The Israelis said it was more like 600,000 since,
 - 21:09 as I said, many had gone back to family homes,
 - 21:11 hadn't really become refugees at all.
 - 21:13 The Arabs put the number at over a million.
 - 21:17 Six thousand three hundred and seventy-two Jews lost their
 - 21:20 lives during this war, by far the greatest death toll in any
 - 21:23 of Israel's wars, one percent of the population.
 - 21:26 Two thousand four hundred of those were civilians.
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 - 21:42 Dr. Seif: David, it's like things never change.
 - 21:45 Jews were always fighting for a right to be in this real estate.
 - 21:48 David: Absolutely, and you know, we've just been talking about
 - 21:51 the ancient battles here in the land and the modern battles.
 - 21:54 I'm looking out at the Golan Heights here from Hazor,
 - 21:57 and that has figured in what, two, three wars so far?
 - 22:01 Maybe another one in the future.
 - 22:03 Maybe another few in the future.
 - 22:05 It hasn't changed.
 - 22:07 The Arab world, the Muslim world wants to see Israel destroyed,
 - 22:11 so many of them, they keep saying it.
 - 22:13 They've tried several times and failed,
 - 22:15 going back to the time of Joshua,
 - 22:17 and looks like there's gonna be more attempts.
 - 22:19 Dr. Seif: I mean, I'm a Bible guy.
 - 22:20 I'm a lot about the divine Word of yesterday,
 - 22:22 but you're here on the ground in Israel.
 - 22:24 What do these wars look like? How did it unfold?
 - 22:27 David: Well, I covered the Lebanon War, just 25 miles north
 - 22:31 of here, inside of Lebanon, and I was there
 - 22:34 for the build up to it, the rockets coming across the
 - 22:36 border pretty much every day.
 - 22:39 I saw the kids running to the shelter.
 - 22:41 I saw what life is like when there's not actually war
 - 22:45 declared, but there's not peace.
 - 22:48 And that's the part of the story that often doesn't get told,
 - 22:51 that the Israeli people have suffered these almost constant
 - 22:54 attacks since--well, really since the 1920s.
 - 22:58 Not even since '48, but, of course,
 - 23:00 '48 being the war with the largest number of casualties.
 - 23:03 But it's dramatic. It's tough to live like that.
 - 23:06 Dr. Seif: People lose a sense of that.
 - 23:07 We read the biblical texts.
 - 23:09 There's a lot of sweat and blood, energy, drama, pain,
 - 23:12 passion, and pleasure too, to see God come through and
 - 23:15 give good success yesterday and today.
 - 23:18 David: And it doesn't happen without pain and tears and blood
 - 23:21 and the price that's paid.
 - 23:24 This country is good about remembering that, you know?
 - 23:26 You go from Memorial Day for the fallen soldiers to
 - 23:30 Independence Day within a second.
 - 23:32 They're back to back as holidays here and that
 - 23:35 reminds everyone of the price.
 - 23:36 Dr. Seif: Yes, it seems that the Bible beckons us to
 - 23:38 remember, because these wars are noted in the text.
 - 23:41 Why is it that Bible people forget,
 - 23:43 forget the Jews, forget Israel?
 - 23:44 Why?
 - 23:46 David: That is a good question.
 - 23:47 I think it's something that you would probably
 - 23:50 have a better answer for.
 - 23:51 It's a spiritual mystery, really.
 - 23:53 Dr. Seif: It surely is; you know, Paul speaks of how Jewish
 - 23:55 people God loved, can look at the biblical text and not see
 - 23:58 Jesus, but my question is how can Christian people
 - 24:00 look at the biblical text and not see Jews in Israel?
 - 24:03 Go figure. Blindness.
 - 24:04 David: I have a friend here, a Jewish believer.
 - 24:06 He says, you know, that Paul said that a blindness would fall
 - 24:10 upon the Jewish people in part until it's revealed who their
 - 24:13 Messiah is, but he says it seems to have fallen on the church in
 - 24:17 terms of who Israel is and their covenant relationship with God.
 - 24:21 And that's a shame, and it's led to a lot of persecution against
 - 24:24 Jews and wars against Jews.
 - 24:26 Even here in the land, the Crusaders killed
 - 24:28 thousands of Jews.
 - 24:29 Dr. Seif: Yes, and you know, through what we're doing
 - 24:31 together, may God bless our labors to dispel that darkness
 - 24:35 and set a little light from the biblical text.
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 - 24:49 David: I think the whole theme for today's program has
 - 24:51 been about fighting for real estate in Israel past
 - 24:56 and present, future.
 - 24:57 Dr. Seif: Yes, well, I look at all of life as a
 - 25:00 struggle, to tell you the truth.
 - 25:01 You know, there's a reason why Paul encourages believers to
 - 25:04 fight the good fight of the faith.
 - 25:06 And armed as I am with that attitude,
 - 25:09 it makes me more robust in response to the troubles of the
 - 25:11 day, but never mind my own personal orientation.
 - 25:15 It is true.
 - 25:16 You look at it, Jews are forever picked on.
 - 25:19 Friends are few, foes are many,
 - 25:21 and we have to, you know, fight and press on to get on with it.
 - 25:25 Kirsten: It's kind of interesting
 - 25:27 because there's the blessing of this gift of land,
 - 25:30 but there's been a great price since the day God said to
 - 25:34 Abraham, "This will be yours and for your generations."
 - 25:36 It's like it's a constant battle.
 - 25:38 Dr. Seif: Yes, and I think for believers too.
 - 25:39 I've said that if God's got a call on your life,
 - 25:41 hell has an assignment against you.
 - 25:43 It's true with real estate, if there's anything to be said for
 - 25:46 spiritual warfare and an enemy of the soul,
 - 25:49 an adversary to what God is all about and who he's all about.
 - 25:52 If all that's at play in human experience,
 - 25:55 behind the scenes, one should expect a struggle,
 - 25:57 but helpfully, it's good to know there are godly people that
 - 26:02 step up into the gap to push the ball forward,
 - 26:05 whether that's for the fight of the modern nation state of
 - 26:08 Israel, whether it's for this Jewish-related ministry.
 - 26:12 God bless our friends.
 - 26:13 Kirsten: Here's a quick question.
 - 26:15 We've watched, you know, every one of your teachings that we
 - 26:18 have on this program, and you roll out this map,
 - 26:22 and it shows a--the ancient lines of Israel and what it
 - 26:26 really was, much larger than it is today.
 - 26:29 So, here's a question that I honestly don't know.
 - 26:32 Prophetically, will Israel get that original outline of the
 - 26:36 land of Canaan back before the end times?
 - 26:40 Dr. Seif: Well, let me just say if you look at--if you put a
 - 26:42 belt around Planet Earth, it's 24,000 miles.
 - 26:45 You can go east or west in Israel.
 - 26:47 It's 10 miles, maybe 50 miles at the widest.
 - 26:50 There is more real estate that's commended to the people of
 - 26:53 Israel, but still, you know, there's this rhetoric the Jews
 - 26:56 are taking over the Middle East.
 - 26:57 It's less than 1% of all the Arab holdings in the area.
 - 27:01 But there is more land that's commended to the Hebrew people,
 - 27:04 and we'll have to see how God brings that about
 - 27:06 in his own timetable.
 - 27:08 Kirsten: All right, well, thank you for today's
 - 27:09 teaching and insight and wisdom.
 - 27:11 David: Our program's over again today, I can't believe it.
 - 27:13 We love to end our program with a song
 - 27:15 from our founder, Zola Levitt.
 - 27:17 Dr. Seif: And a word of prayer.
 - 27:18 Please sha'alu shalom Yerushalayim.
 - 27:22 Kirsten: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
 - 27:24 ♪♪♪
 - 27:30 ♪♪♪
 - 27:36 ♪ Yeshua, return unto our Father. ♪
 - 27:42 ♪ Yeshua, return to us alone. ♪
 - 27:48 ♪ Yeshua, return unto Israel. ♪
 - 27:55 ♪ Yeshua, return unto your own. ♪
 - 28:01 ♪ Yeshua, return unto Israel. ♪
 - 28:07 ♪ Yeshua, ♪
 - 28:09 ♪ return unto ♪
 - 28:12 ♪ your own. ♪♪
 - 28:19 ♪♪♪
 






