Caption transcript for Eretz Israel (The Land of Israel) (2021): “Jesus and the Promised Land” (7/8)

• 00:01 ♪♪♪
• 00:03 David Hart: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots" with insightful
• 00:06 Bible teaching from Israel by Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:09 We travel to Herodian today on "Eretz Israel,"
• 00:13 "The Land of Israel."
• 00:15 ♪♪♪
• 00:17 ♪♪♪
• 00:25 narrator: "Look to the North, the South, the East, the West."
• 00:36 ♪♪♪
• 00:41 narrator: "All the land which thou seest, to thee will I give
• 00:45 it and to thy seed forever.
• 00:50 Indeed, he who watches over Israel will neither
• 00:54 slumber nor sleep."
• 00:58 ♪♪♪
• 01:03 narrator: "Eretz Israel."
• 01:06 ♪♪♪
• 01:12 David: Thank you so much for joining us today.
• 01:14 I'm David Hart.
• 01:15 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 01:16 Jeffrey Seif: And I am Jeffrey Seif.
• 01:19 When I think about my life, I think about what an honor it is
• 01:22 to be able to take the Bible and bring it to you
• 01:25 from the land of Israel.
• 01:26 And it's an honor to serve you.
• 01:28 And today we're going to a special place there, aren't we?
• 01:31 Kirsten: Right, well, we haven't been.
• 01:33 You got special permission to go there, I think.
• 01:36 We haven't been there.
• 01:37 It's on the way down to Beit Lechem,
• 01:38 the House of Bread, Bethlehem.
• 01:40 And tell us about your journey.
• 01:42 Was it hard to get there?
• 01:43 Jeffrey: Well, our producer gets us to these sites early,
• 01:46 before they actually become part of the well-traveled
• 01:50 tourist path.
• 01:51 But this is Herod's old--one of his palaces and--
• 01:56 Kirsten: Summer palace, right?
• 01:57 Jeffrey: Yes, and it was recently excavated at the time
• 01:59 and we were able to get there and it was quite a trip to go up
• 02:03 and up and up.
• 02:04 I wasn't feeling the best.
• 02:05 They had a golf cart, schlepped me up to the top and then I did
• 02:08 my teaching and then they schlepped me down.
• 02:10 Kirsten: Schlep, that's a good word.
• 02:11 Jeffrey: It's a Jewish term, to drag.
• 02:14 Kirsten: But you were in that--your vehicle, driving
• 02:18 dusty roads.
• 02:19 This is such a wonderful series and adventures--adventuresome
• 02:23 series that you've taken us on.
• 02:24 Jeffrey: Yes, to take people where they don't normally go is
• 02:28 a beautiful thing to do in the land of Israel.
• 02:30 David: That's right.
• 02:31 We're gonna show you how much Yeshua loved his land through
• 02:34 our dramatic reenactment.
• 02:35 Then Dr. Seif will be teaching on location in Israel, a place
• 02:40 that even had a swimming pool.
• 02:41 Let's go there.
• 02:44 ♪♪♪
• 02:47 narrator: According to the Bible, Yeshua and his followers
• 02:51 walked upon one strategically important parcel of land.
• 02:56 After Herod's death, an angel references the site, telling
• 03:00 Joseph, "Arise.
• 03:02 Take the young child and his mother and go
• 03:06 into the land of Israel."
• 03:09 In his earthly ministry, the Lord spoke to,
• 03:13 for, and about Israel.
• 03:17 "When they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for
• 03:23 verily I say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of
• 03:28 Israel 'til the Son of Man be come."
• 03:33 Throughout the ages, this holy land has been known by different
• 03:37 names, but nowhere in the pages of the New Testament has there
• 03:42 ever been a reference to Palestine.
• 03:45 Yeshua knew this relatively small parcel of land as Israel,
• 03:52 the land of the patriarchs.
• 04:01 Jeffrey: People talk about walking in the footsteps
• 04:02 of Jesus.
• 04:04 Well, I'm all about that, walking back into the bygone era
• 04:07 in antiquity.
• 04:09 This is the land of Jesus.
• 04:10 It was the land of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus,
• 04:13 as you'll see.
• 04:15 In fact, he traversed this land, traveling around from the
• 04:18 Galilee, Capernaum, to Jerusalem, and he made his way
• 04:21 to a famous place called Herodian, a famous place in
• 04:24 Jesus's day.
• 04:26 It's been lost to moderns.
• 04:27 But what's lost to moderns is now gonna be made known.
• 04:31 Follow me now to Herodian.
• 04:34 ♪♪♪
• 04:42 ♪♪♪
• 04:54 ♪♪♪
• 05:05 Jeffrey: I'll tell you, it's like going back
• 05:07 in a time machine 2000 years.
• 05:10 I won't just say it; I'll show it.
• 05:15 This is not a "National Geographic" map but it's close
• 05:17 to what they would have used back in Jesus's day.
• 05:21 Where are we here now?
• 05:24 Jerusalem, we're familiar with that.
• 05:27 Herodium.
• 05:29 Jesus frequented this world; so did Herod and he had a
• 05:32 headquarters right here.
• 05:34 Come with me.
• 05:36 Let's explore.
• 05:39 ♪♪♪
• 05:45 Jeffrey: Herodian, or Herodium in Greek, is one of the
• 05:49 most extraordinary architectural constructions
• 05:51 in the western world.
• 05:54 Built by King Herod, this magnificent structure was
• 05:58 intended to serve as a summer palace and later, after his
• 06:02 death, was to be his mausoleum.
• 06:05 Seen from miles around, it rises 195 feet above the summit
• 06:10 of a natural hill.
• 06:12 Half palace, half fortress, the complex consisted of luxurious
• 06:17 living quarters, a bathhouse, garden areas, and even a huge
• 06:22 swimming pool with an island.
• 06:26 Jeffrey: Philip of Macedon had a famous son, Alexander, who
• 06:29 by his dint of determination was minded to take over what he knew
• 06:33 of the world and he did.
• 06:36 He didn't live very long and his empire was divided and even
• 06:39 those that followed after him were minded to impress Greek
• 06:42 culture, to civilize the world at large.
• 06:45 And part of the world at large that they conquered was a place
• 06:49 called Israel, Eretz Israel, the Land of Israel.
• 06:53 Here in Herodium we're reminded of the triumph of Greco-Roman
• 06:58 culture for, as a result of political intrigue,
• 07:03 interestingly, the Romans found a "client" king who could do
• 07:08 their bidding here in the land.
• 07:09 But even though he was a client king to the Romans,
• 07:12 particularly, he nevertheless ruled over what the Bible knew
• 07:16 as a sovereign Israelite Commonwealth.
• 07:20 It's interesting how he came to it, by the way, for initially
• 07:25 Herod was sharing this part of the world with family members
• 07:30 but, interestingly, in the wake of a Parthian intrusion--and
• 07:36 Parthia, by the way, in antiquity is where Persia or
• 07:39 Iran is in modernity.
• 07:42 Folk from that part of the world came and overran this part of
• 07:45 the world and to set up their own king.
• 07:47 Herod was running.
• 07:49 He went to Masada and, on the way, he had a clash with these
• 07:53 Parthians at a place, and this was the place, interestingly.
• 07:58 Herod's gonna go off to Rome and beg for support against the
• 08:02 Parthians and he's going to get it unanimously at the Senate,
• 08:06 and Herod's going to come back here as the undisputed king
• 08:08 of the Jews.
• 08:10 Interestingly, this is the place, Herodium, that's a
• 08:13 monument to his own success for there was a season in his own
• 08:17 life when he was on the run and he was able to get the better of
• 08:21 those minded to knock the legs out from underneath him.
• 08:25 Well, here, this place is underneath me right now.
• 08:27 Herod has long since come and gone, and the civilization that
• 08:30 he represented, but isn't it interesting that Israel stands,
• 08:35 and because Israel stands, I'm minded to stand for Israel.
• 08:39 Now, what I'd like to do is take you to a familiar story, just to
• 08:42 let you to see how from God's perspective, even in these days,
• 08:46 Israel is Israel, even though it's annexed as a Greco-Roman
• 08:50 holding and, in the Matthean text, the Gospel of Matthew, you
• 08:53 might recall the famous Christmas story, Jesus was born
• 08:56 in troubled times and the family takes flight to Egypt.
• 09:00 We learn of Herod's death which then facilitates the return, and
• 09:05 that's the story I wanna look at here where we're told that an
• 09:08 angel of the Lord, this is heaven-sent according to the
• 09:11 literature, comes and tells the royal family, in verse 20,
• 09:14 chapter 2, verse 20, quote, "Arise, take the young Child and
• 09:18 his mother, and go to the land of Israel."
• 09:23 Not the land of Palestine.
• 09:25 You know, there are individuals today that claim that the whole
• 09:28 argument of a Jewish presence is grossly overstated.
• 09:31 Well, if that's the case, whoever wrote Matthew never got
• 09:33 the memo because he seems to think that even in a hellenized
• 09:37 Greco-Roman world, there is a land of Israel.
• 09:40 And this comes on angelic authority, by the way, that
• 09:43 the--Yeshua is told to--the family to go
• 09:47 to the land of Israel.
• 09:49 In verse 21, where an angel tells you to do something, I
• 09:53 suppose it's good to obey.
• 09:54 We're told, "He arose, took the young Child and his mother, and
• 09:57 came into the land of Israel."
• 10:02 It's a simple point and truth be known, is that this whole series
• 10:06 that we're doing, "Eretz Israel," "The Land of Israel,"
• 10:08 is a simple story, and that is that God had commanded a
• 10:12 particular people to a particular place.
• 10:15 But in a world today where many lose sight of all that, it's
• 10:18 good to open up the Bible and go back and consider how the Jewish
• 10:23 bid in this place is corroborated by biblical
• 10:27 language, emphatic biblical promises.
• 10:32 Even in the world, in Jesus's day, but the world we're in,
• 10:36 Greek still, Israel stood still as a sovereign nation state.
• 10:43 And Jesus, here in the royal family, is not only told by the
• 10:45 angel to go into the land of Israel.
• 10:47 Elsewhere, Jesus beckons the disciples to go visit the
• 10:50 various cities in the land of Israel, saying, "You won't go
• 10:52 through all of them," actually.
• 10:54 But the land is noted as Israel, harking back to the promises
• 10:59 made to the patriarchs, centuries and centuries removed.
• 11:04 Why do people forget it?
• 11:05 I don't know, but I do know that the Bible doesn't.
• 11:09 There is a people, there is a land, and they belong together,
• 11:14 here, in the land of Israel.
• 11:17 ♪♪♪
• 11:31 male announcer: Our resource this week: the music CD,
• 11:34 "Zion Song."
• 11:36 During his lifetime, Zola Levitt composed over 200
• 11:40 Spirit-filled songs.
• 11:41 Now, David and Kirsten Hart provide fresh interpretations to
• 11:45 11 of Zola's compositions.
• 11:47 Enjoy this beautiful music yourself or share the CD
• 11:51 with a friend.
• 11:52 Contact us and ask for "Zion Song."
• 11:59 David: Join us right now for additional content that is only
• 12:02 available on our social media sites: Facebook,
• 12:04 YouTube, and Twitter.
• 12:07 Visit our website, levitt.com, for the current and past
• 12:10 programs, the television schedule, tour information, and
• 12:14 our free monthly newsletter which is full of insightful
• 12:17 articles and news commentary.
• 12:19 View it online or we can ship it directly to your mailbox
• 12:22 every month.
• 12:23 Also on our website is the online store.
• 12:26 There, you can order this week's resource or you can always give
• 12:30 us a call at 1-800-WONDERS.
• 12:33 Your donations to "Our Jewish Roots" help us to support these
• 12:37 organizations as they bless Israel.
• 12:40 Please remember we depend on tax-deductible donations
• 12:43 from viewers like you.
• 12:45 Kirsten: For many, a trip to the Holy Land is the dream?
• 12:48 of a lifetime.
• 12:50 Where else can you go see the Scriptures come alive as you
• 12:53 visit the sites where so many biblical events happened.
• 12:59 We invite you to come on a Zola Tour in the spring or the fall
• 13:03 as we explore Israel and Petra.
• 13:06 Reserve your dream of a lifetime.
• 13:09 Contact us for more information.
• 13:16 David: The land is lush in Israel, as you can see.
• 13:19 We go there two times a year, both in the spring and the fall.
• 13:23 We love going there.
• 13:24 It is life-changing for us and it would be life-changing
• 13:26 for you too.
• 13:28 Please join us.
• 13:29 Kirsten: Right, levitt.com is the easiest way to find out
• 13:31 about our tours and you've been there multiple times,
• 13:35 haven't you?
• 13:37 Jeffrey: Yes, and it's true.
• 13:38 I was thinking as David was speaking, it really is
• 13:39 life-changing.
• 13:41 There are certain things for me that were life-changing.
• 13:42 Certainly accepting Jesus into my heart was very life-changing.
• 13:47 And, honestly, going to Israel was life-changing.
• 13:50 It's not just like a statement to sell a tour, to coax you into
• 13:54 doing something like you would see an advertisement.
• 13:57 But when you walk in the Bible lands, it just does something
• 14:01 to you.
• 14:02 And I remember my first time there and it's always
• 14:04 a thrill to go.
• 14:05 Thank you for sending me.
• 14:07 Kirsten: As you say, on our tours we stay
• 14:09 in first-class hotels.
• 14:10 I mean, we are--it's like red carpet wherever we go on our
• 14:14 tours but when we're there in production time,
• 14:17 this is a very thrifty ministry.
• 14:19 We are very cautious of how we use our finances when we're over
• 14:23 touring and--or taping.
• 14:25 When you tape for the program.
• 14:26 Jeffrey: Yeah, it's not like some big 20th Century Fox
• 14:30 production: Elizabeth Taylor in her trailer, then she goes out
• 14:34 with Richard Burton and films "The Queen of Egypt,"
• 14:37 or whatever.
• 14:39 We're really out there in the elements and the heat of it,
• 14:41 slaving away, you know, without any of that nice stuff.
• 14:44 David: But it's Hollywood quality.
• 14:45 What you all do is just phenomenal.
• 14:47 Kirsten: Right, the quality is great, but those that give to
• 14:50 this ministry, we want them to know, we want you to know when
• 14:54 you send donations to this ministry, we use it so wisely
• 14:57 and we use it to further the kingdom.
• 14:59 Jeffrey: Yeah, we pay for professionals, you know, a
• 15:03 professional production team and professional helps over there,
• 15:07 professional equipment.
• 15:09 It all costs money and you pay for it, thank you.
• 15:11 But it doesn't translate into all kinds of goodies for the
• 15:15 people that do the presenting, that is us here.
• 15:19 You would be surprised how much money we don't make and I'm not
• 15:22 looking for a raise.
• 15:24 I'm just wanting to raise awareness of the fact that we're
• 15:26 not after you for your money personally.
• 15:29 David: David Dolan's teaching today takes place
• 15:31 right outside of Bethlehem.
• 15:32 Let's go there right now.
• 15:36 Jeffrey: David Dolan joins us this week from a hillside
• 15:38 overlooking the area of Bethlehem in what's called the
• 15:42 West Bank.
• 15:43 These bunkers are the remnants of numerous wars as surrounding
• 15:48 nations have sought to lay claim to this very strategic site.
• 15:53 David continues with his account there
• 15:55 of the modern state of Israel.
• 16:00 David Dolan: I'm standing on a hilltop
• 16:02 near Kibbutz Ramat Rachel.
• 16:03 This was a strategic battleground in both 1948
• 16:07 and '67.
• 16:08 You can see some of the bunkers that Israel built here to fight
• 16:11 against the Palestinians and the Jordanians.
• 16:14 Behind me is Bethlehem, one of the largest Arab towns in the
• 16:17 Palestinian authority today.
• 16:20 This area has been the center of the dispute for so many years in
• 16:23 the Arab-Israeli conflict, but let's go back to the aftermath
• 16:26 of the Yom Kippur War, Israel suffering very much in that war,
• 16:30 and Egypt as well.
• 16:32 The finances in Egypt were decimated by the war.
• 16:35 The leader, Anwar Sadat, made a strategic decision in the mid
• 16:38 '70s, to break ties with the Soviet Union and establish them
• 16:41 with the United States.
• 16:43 And then he decided to make peace with Israel.
• 16:46 He showed up at the Knesset here in Jerusalem in November of
• 16:50 1977, declaring he was ready for peace.
• 16:53 But in the meantime, the violence continued.
• 16:56 In April of 1978, Israel suffered her worst terror attack
• 17:00 ever: the Coastal Road Massacre.
• 17:02 The PLO had been kicked out of Jordan in 1970, set up a mini
• 17:06 state in South Lebanon.
• 17:08 From there, they were launching attacks upon
• 17:10 the Jewish people constantly.
• 17:12 Thirty-three Israelis were killed, many of them children,
• 17:15 most of them civilians.
• 17:16 Nevertheless, the peace process got going.
• 17:19 Jimmy Carter inviting both Sadat and the new Israeli leader,
• 17:22 Menachem Begin, who had ousted the labor party in May of 1977
• 17:27 in a revolutionary election here in Israel.
• 17:30 He was invited to come as well.
• 17:32 The pundits said, "Peace won't happen: the Begin government
• 17:35 is too right wing."
• 17:37 They were wrong.
• 17:38 Thirteen days of grueling negotiations took place
• 17:41 at Camp David.
• 17:42 The leaders walked out several times.
• 17:44 The main issue was Jerusalem.
• 17:46 In the end, Jimmy Carter said to Sadat, "Give Begin a letter
• 17:50 with your position."
• 17:51 To Begin, "Give Sadat a letter with your position."
• 17:53 That's what they did, and they were able to sign
• 17:55 the Camp David Accords.
• 17:57 Those Accords had two parts.
• 17:58 One was the Israeli withdrawal from the Sinai Peninsula that
• 18:02 Israel had captured during the '67 war.
• 18:05 It was a phased withdrawal that began in 1981.
• 18:08 I was actually down in the Sinai at the time.
• 18:10 It was very controversial.
• 18:12 Many said Begin had betrayed the right wing here
• 18:16 by agreeing to that.
• 18:17 Nevertheless, it was carried out.
• 18:18 The second part of the Accord dealt with the area behind me,
• 18:21 the Palestinian zones.
• 18:23 They were to get self-governing autonomy during peace talks that
• 18:27 would also involve Jordan.
• 18:29 They would involve Lebanon.
• 18:30 They would involve Syria.
• 18:32 Well, it never happened.
• 18:33 The Arab countries totally rejected the Oslo Accords and
• 18:37 Anwar Sadat was shot dead by one of his own army officers
• 18:41 in October of 1981.
• 18:43 Meanwhile, the PLO continued to launch attacks into Israel.
• 18:47 I was living on a kibbutz along the northern border and,
• 18:50 frankly, we spent most of our time living in a bomb shelter.
• 18:53 It became intolerable and everybody knew that the Begin
• 18:56 government was preparing some sort of major military action.
• 19:00 Well, early June 1982, the Israeli ambassador to London
• 19:04 was assassinated.
• 19:05 That was the spark that set off the war.
• 19:07 It wasn't just an air operation as before.
• 19:10 It was a ground operation.
• 19:12 Begin intended it to be just in South Lebanon but his defense
• 19:16 minister, Ariel Sharon, had other ideas.
• 19:18 He wanted to see the Syrians thrown out of Lebanon as well as
• 19:21 the PLO.
• 19:23 He wanted that to happen so a final peace accord
• 19:25 would be possible.
• 19:27 So the war went all the way up to Beirut
• 19:28 and the fighting was heavy.
• 19:30 The world was condemning Israel for that.
• 19:33 But Israel had a great victory against the Syrians, in the air
• 19:36 in particular, knocking out over 80 MiG jets and losing
• 19:40 only a few themselves.
• 19:41 But the demand here in the country for Israel to pull back
• 19:45 kept growing and, finally, in 1985, Israel completed her
• 19:49 withdrawal to the security zone, a small strip of land right
• 19:52 along the border that they controlled until the year 2000.
• 19:56 Yasser Arafat was tossed out of the country and ended up in
• 19:59 Tunis where he continued the struggle against Israel.
• 20:03 But it didn't stop the terror attacks.
• 20:05 They continued in the '80s.
• 20:07 Israel's economy was hard hit by that war.
• 20:10 Hyper inflation hit, up to 450%.
• 20:14 And there was a demand for a total pullout from Lebanon.
• 20:17 Meanwhile back here, the struggle was continuing.
• 20:21 Israel was starting to build settlements such as this one
• 20:24 that was later billed Har Homa, but even in that era, they were
• 20:27 building settlements.
• 20:28 The tensions were building, and this would later lead to a great
• 20:31 explosion of violence, the first Palestinian uprising.
• 20:35 ♪♪♪
• 20:47 Jeffrey: Now, David, it's not like me to tell God his business
• 20:50 but if you're gonna choose real estate and put a people there,
• 20:54 one could argue why Israel, because it's forever acted upon
• 20:57 by major world powers from the dawn of history, situated as it
• 21:01 is here at the tip of the fertile crescent and the corner
• 21:05 of various continents.
• 21:07 It's always been in the middle of political intrigue, correct?
• 21:10 David: Well, that is correct and, of course, that's the
• 21:12 reason the British said, "Let's don't have a Jewish state back
• 21:16 in the old area.
• 21:17 Let's have somewhere in Africa.
• 21:19 We'll give you some land somewhere in Eastern Africa."
• 21:21 Jeffrey: Uganda.
• 21:23 David: Uganda.
• 21:24 And of course, the Jewish people said, "No way.
• 21:26 Jerusalem is here."
• 21:28 I had a Muslim in a call-in program in London one time say,
• 21:32 "Why isn't the Jewish state in Germany?
• 21:33 This is all a result of the Holocaust
• 21:35 and it shouldn't be here.
• 21:36 This is a Muslim area."
• 21:38 I said, "Well, where do you pray when you get down on your knees?
• 21:41 What direction?" He said, "To Mecca."
• 21:43 I said, "Well, Jews don't pray facing Stuttgart or Berlin,"
• 21:46 they pray facing Jerusalem, so it had to be here.
• 21:48 And here it is, but it's very contested over, as you said.
• 21:51 Jeffrey: Yes, right there, Africa, Asia, Europe.
• 21:55 It's the only land bridge.
• 21:57 Israel, smack in the middle so Israel's always had to contend
• 22:01 with major powers.
• 22:02 Rarely has the country ever had the luxury in its history just
• 22:05 to be autonomous and unconcerned.
• 22:07 David: Well, that's the case.
• 22:09 And that's why people were so joyful over the peace treaty
• 22:12 with Egypt.
• 22:13 They thought, "Maybe this will lead to a string of peace
• 22:16 agreements with everybody else."
• 22:18 Well, it did lead to one with Jordan but, so far, not with
• 22:20 anybody else and we still have Iran and we have Lebanon, we
• 22:23 have Syria, we have Libya, we have all these others.
• 22:26 Still talking about destroying this state that's right in the
• 22:28 middle of them as you said, in the middle of the earth, and,
• 22:31 you know, some Israelis say, "Maybe we should have gone to
• 22:34 Africa," but for the most part, they're ready to fight for it
• 22:37 whatever it takes.
• 22:38 Jeffrey: And you know, Dave, I spoke tongue in cheek in
• 22:40 saying I'm not, you know, "Who am I to tell God his business,"
• 22:42 but why did he stick us here?
• 22:44 But because this is the crossroads of all world
• 22:46 civilizations, for God to make his name known in the earth,
• 22:52 this would be the place to do it and, goodness, is he not making
• 22:55 it known and will he not in the future.
• 22:58 David: Well, absolutely, and as Ezekiel says, this is at the
• 23:01 center of the nations, and it literally, physically is the
• 23:05 Middle East, the middle of the world, and all eyes are here.
• 23:08 I'm part of the third largest press corps stationed in any one
• 23:11 country on earth, Jeff, and this is a country
• 23:13 of 7 million people.
• 23:14 There's more journalists here than in Moscow and--
• 23:16 Jeffrey: Right, and it's a country that can fit
• 23:18 in Lake Erie.
• 23:19 David: Exactly, it's a tiny little piece of land and yet
• 23:22 people get the impression that it's massive because it is so
• 23:24 much a part of all the happenings in the world.
• 23:27 Jeffrey: Yes, and you mentioned Ezekiel.
• 23:30 You read Ezekiel some 40 times, you'll hear about God finally at
• 23:34 day's end making his name known in the earth, this earth, "Eretz
• 23:41 Israel," "The Land of Israel."
• 23:44 ♪♪♪
• 23:58 Kirsten: You mentioned that Israel is the center
• 24:00 of the nations.
• 24:01 It's the center of the world, isn't it?
• 24:03 Jeffrey: Certainly from a biblical perspective, all roads
• 24:06 leading from it and to it.
• 24:08 Kirsten: Well, that made me think of the term, "All roads
• 24:11 lead to Rome," it's kind of like in the ancient world, if you
• 24:14 wanted to get to the Mediterranean Ocean, all roads
• 24:17 led through Israel.
• 24:19 Jeffrey: Well, in fairness to the Romans, they built highways.
• 24:22 It was highly developed.
• 24:25 So I get why they'd say, "All roads lead to Rome," but where's
• 24:28 Rome today?
• 24:29 Nothing of what it used to be.
• 24:32 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 24:33 the people of Israel live and the roads that were traveled
• 24:37 yesterday are being traveled today and we get to go there.
• 24:41 Kirsten: We--go ahead.
• 24:43 David: I was gonna say, we took a trip recently
• 24:44 to Lake Tahoe.
• 24:46 Have you ever been?
• 24:48 Jeffrey: No.
• 24:49 David: It's beautiful.
• 24:50 I mean, crystal clear water, gorgeous mountains, and we had
• 24:53 the thought, "Why didn't God pick a place like that?"
• 24:56 There's a lot of desert in Israel, but Jesus lived there.
• 25:00 That's where he ended up.
• 25:02 Jeffrey: Yes, it's fascinating.
• 25:03 As you said during the break, it's amazing that he promised it
• 25:07 and then he walked.
• 25:09 David: Could have been anywhere.
• 25:10 Jeffrey: Yes, and we get to walk it too.
• 25:12 It's a special place, you know, and if you're feeling that
• 25:16 magnetic lure, something inside of you inclines you toward
• 25:21 Israel, and it would have to be there or you would have gone,
• 25:26 "click," a while ago just to get away from this program because
• 25:29 this is a Jesus program, to be sure, but it's Jewish hues or
• 25:33 colors, it's Jewish hues on the good news, and that allure,
• 25:37 people are drawn to biblical spaces, to biblical places, to
• 25:42 biblical faces, and if you wanna go see it in the flesh,
• 25:45 twice a year, yes?
• 25:47 David: Let me clarify what I just said, too.
• 25:49 There's desert, but there's beautiful scenery.
• 25:51 There's prophetic scenery of--
• 25:55 Kirsten: Oh, I was just gonna say, the Jordan River valley
• 25:57 is lush.
• 25:59 David: There is so much beauty there.
• 26:00 Kirsten: Date palm trees everywhere.
• 26:01 The flowers.
• 26:03 Jeffrey: Yes, and if you look at the topography, it's a
• 26:04 pivotal point, arguably, and again I don't wanna be an
• 26:09 amateur geologist but to speak about continental shifts and
• 26:13 place plates and stretching, there is so much there from
• 26:19 wilderness lands to rising lands to garden lands.
• 26:23 It has to do with the nature of this special place.
• 26:26 Kirsten: And so many people want that piece of land but it
• 26:28 was only promised to one people.
• 26:31 Jeffrey: That is true.
• 26:33 David: And we have one more program with "Eretz Israel,"
• 26:36 "The Promised Land of Yeshua," next week.
• 26:39 Jeffrey: Yes, you say it so good.
• 26:40 And thank you for watching, by the way, if you watch us
• 26:43 'cause you care.
• 26:44 And we really, really hope you're learning something about
• 26:47 God's love for the place.
• 26:49 David: We end today's program with a song from our founder,
• 26:51 Zola Levitt.
• 26:52 But first--
• 26:54 Jeffrey: A word from the Scripture: "Shaalu shalom
• 26:56 Yerushalayim."
• 26:57 Kirsten: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
• 27:00 ♪♪♪
• 27:03 ♪ Lord, I hear you weeping, ♪
• 27:07 ♪ sorrow for what might have been. ♪
• 27:11 ♪ Your hand outstretched upon the cross, ♪
• 27:15 ♪ reaching for the souls of men. ♪
• 27:19 ♪ Lord, I hear you praying ♪
• 27:22 ♪ for those who are so lost. ♪
• 27:27 ♪ To simply ask, "Forgive me, Lord. ♪
• 27:32 ♪ I understand the cost." ♪
• 27:38 ♪ Lord, I hear you praying ♪
• 27:42 ♪ for those who are so lost. ♪
• 27:46 ♪ To simply ask, "Forgive me, Lord. ♪
• 27:53 ♪ I understand the cost." ♪♪
• 28:08 ♪♪♪
• 28:14 ♪♪♪
• 28:22 ♪♪♪