Caption transcript for Joshua: “The Gibeonites” (6/8)

• 00:01 ♪♪♪
• 00:04 David Hart: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots," with insightful
• 00:06 Bible teaching from Israel with Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:10 This week, we see how faith brings down barriers
• 00:13 on, "Joshua: More Than a Conqueror."
• 00:17 ♪♪♪
• 00:28 ♪♪♪
• 00:38 ♪♪♪
• 00:45 ♪♪♪
• 00:54 David: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots."
• 00:55 I'm David Hart.
• 00:57 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 00:58 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: And I am Jeffrey Seif.
• 01:00 Now, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I don't wanna burst
• 01:03 any bubbles, but in case you don't know it, there
• 01:07 are some sneaky, deceitful people in this world.
• 01:12 Things haven't changed from generation to generation.
• 01:15 Sin lives.
• 01:17 Not everything is as it seems. We're gonna explore that.
• 01:22 But first, a question. I notice those diamond rings.
• 01:24 Is it true?
• 01:26 Kirsten: What?
• 01:27 Jeffrey: Is it true that when your husband gave you the last
• 01:29 one, you had it tested to see if it was real or if it was,
• 01:34 what is it, cubic zirconia, whatever it's called?
• 01:36 Kirsten: Maybe. Jeffrey: No, answer the--
• 01:37 Kirsten: Yes!
• 01:39 Jeffrey: Okay, so you wanted to verify--so you know--she knows
• 01:40 there's sneaky people in the world.
• 01:42 We're gonna see it in the Bible. But he was good, right?
• 01:45 Kirsten: He's good. Gibeonites, not so much.
• 01:48 Jeffrey: Right, not so much them.
• 01:50 You're mad at me for bringing this up here on national TV?
• 01:53 David: Hey, Dr. Seif is gonna be teaching on-location
• 01:55 in Israel, but right now, let's find out the trickery
• 01:59 that happened to Joshua.
• 02:01 Let's go there now.
• 02:03 ♪♪♪
• 02:05 Joshua: It all seemed so believable.
• 02:07 I mean, I was fooled by the Gibeonites.
• 02:09 Evidence of a lengthy journey from a so-called distant city.
• 02:14 It takes weeks for bread to look like this.
• 02:17 I should've known better. I've been deceived.
• 02:24 Joshua: How could I believe such a tale?
• 02:28 male: Joshua, you aren't the only one.
• 02:31 We all believed.
• 02:33 This story of their long journey to make peace with us,
• 02:37 it seemed to right.
• 02:40 We just stumbled upon the truth.
• 02:43 Joshua: Dry, moldy bread, tattered sandals,
• 02:47 evidence they claim.
• 02:49 All the while, they've been our neighbors.
• 02:52 What's done is done.
• 02:54 I've made peace with the Gibeonites, despite
• 02:57 the Lord's warning to not do so with any of the Canaanites,
• 03:01 and now we're in covenant and we can't slay them.
• 03:05 male: Joshua, the Gibeonites have come in peace.
• 03:13 They've heard of Adonai and what he's done for us in slaying
• 03:17 and destroying Jericho and the city of Ai.
• 03:22 They were afraid they might be next.
• 03:24 Joshua: But they deceived us.
• 03:26 male: Our tribal leaders have met and offered a solution.
• 03:30 Joshua: And what might that be?
• 03:33 male: We need help at the tabernacle.
• 03:35 They can cut wood to sustain the flames of our altar
• 03:40 and they can carry water for us as well.
• 03:46 Joshua: Yes, yes, a wise decision.
• 03:51 And they can learn of a real journey, of 40 years in
• 03:56 the desert, of the Lord's might and miracles, and
• 03:58 of our bread which sustained us every step of the way.
• 04:02 male: And remember, they've already agreed
• 04:06 to be our servants.
• 04:11 Joshua: They're a frail, broken people, but they have
• 04:14 done well in fearing the Lord.
• 04:16 The Gibeonites will live and will serve
• 04:19 the children of Israel.
• 04:22 United together, we will be unbreakable.
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• 04:32 Jeffrey: Little is known of Gibeon's exact location,
• 04:36 so we came to the general location of the Gibeonites
• 04:38 just southwest of what was the city of Ai.
• 04:43 Sheep still graze in this valley today as they probably did 3,400
• 04:47 years ago when the city's residents used their clever
• 04:51 schemes in seeking peace with Joshua's invading forces.
• 04:58 It was a scandal, an outrage, in fact.
• 05:04 Wasn't expecting it.
• 05:06 You read into the book of Joshua and you see the man,
• 05:10 the leader is quite the strategist.
• 05:14 This is particularly evident with the last battle at Ai,
• 05:19 where it's set up.
• 05:21 There's a scheme at play.
• 05:23 It's thought out, well executed, and success.
• 05:27 The skirmish before that, the war before that at Jericho,
• 05:31 there's strategy, but it's divine strategy.
• 05:34 In the battle of Ai, our leader is showing
• 05:38 himself to be just that.
• 05:41 And it's amazing, someone that smart still got duped,
• 05:47 and it came down to something like this.
• 05:52 Stale bread, if you can imagine that.
• 05:59 Hard to break, crusty. Here's the real deal.
• 06:04 Well, the fresh bread, you'd think someone would know
• 06:07 the difference, yesterday as today.
• 06:11 Well, it wasn't just the bread in the case of Joshua,
• 06:13 because when those from Gibeon came, they came with tattered
• 06:18 wineskins, worn out sandals, battered clothing, stale bread,
• 06:25 saying, "We're from a far country and we, sir,
• 06:29 want to make peace with you."
• 06:33 And why is that?
• 06:35 Well, momentum in sports and in war, it's hard to get,
• 06:41 but once you got it, it is very eventful.
• 06:44 When Bene Israel, the children of Israel, were making
• 06:47 their way into the land of promise on the other side
• 06:49 of the Jordan, they scored decisive victories.
• 06:53 Once in, across the Jordan, in the land of Canaan,
• 06:58 then you have the story of Jericho, a decisive victory,
• 07:04 the battle of Ai, decisive victory.
• 07:07 The Hebrews are racking 'em up and the people
• 07:09 'round about are concerned.
• 07:13 Those from Gibeon, this place right here, Al Jib,
• 07:17 it's known as that in antiquity in the 10th century.
• 07:21 David ben Abraham al-Fasi, a cartographer,
• 07:24 made note of this place.
• 07:27 Another person, an archeologist in the 1950s, excavated and
• 07:33 found 56 jars, the handles of which were marked with "Gibeon,"
• 07:40 noting this place, these environs.
• 07:44 A people once lived here, but now it's been covered up
• 07:47 by the sands of time through the ages, but the story
• 07:51 emerges in the biblical pages.
• 07:53 We're told in chapter 9, and turn with me please, in verse 3,
• 07:58 that the inhabitants of Gibeon heard what was happening
• 08:03 and they were concerned.
• 08:06 They didn't want to get annihilated, so they
• 08:08 concocted a scheme.
• 08:11 We're told in the text what I just told you in my narrative,
• 08:14 that they presented themselves to the Hebrews, saying that,
• 08:18 "We're from a faraway place."
• 08:22 We're told in verse 5, "Vechol lechem tzeidam yavesh,"
• 08:28 that their provision was dry.
• 08:31 The bread was dry, we're told.
• 08:34 "Hayah nikkudim," and it became crumbs.
• 08:39 So when they said they were from a faraway place,
• 08:42 they provided evidences thereof.
• 08:44 And what were they after in the process of so doing?
• 08:47 They wanted a treaty.
• 08:51 We're told in verse 6, as we read on, what they say,
• 08:55 "Me'eretz rechokah banu,"
• 08:59 "We've come from a faraway place."
• 09:02 "Ve'attah kirtu-lanu verit." "Make a covenant with us."
• 09:10 In antiquity, it wasn't the least bit uncommon for stronger
• 09:15 nations to enter into treaties with smaller peoples.
• 09:20 They're referred to as Suzerain treaties.
• 09:23 A smaller, weaker entity makes peace with the larger
• 09:27 and they carve out terms of endearment.
• 09:31 Now, if you were involved in some kind of contract and you
• 09:36 discovered that the other party entered into it deceitfully,
• 09:41 it wouldn't be beyond the pale of reason for you
• 09:43 to want that contract to be null and void.
• 09:47 When the Hebrews found out they got duped,
• 09:49 there was murmuring in the camp.
• 09:51 They weren't happy campers, if you will, but still
• 09:54 interestingly, fascinatingly, they kept the deal.
• 09:59 In verse 15 we're told,
• 10:02 "Vaiya'as lahem Yehoshua shalom."
• 10:05 "And Joshua made peace with them."
• 10:08 And then he goes on to say that he went on and "karath berit,"
• 10:11 he cut a covenant with them and then he kept it.
• 10:18 He was faithful, even when he discovered that they were not.
• 10:27 We live in a world today where there's covenant takers,
• 10:30 covenant makers, and covenant breakers.
• 10:33 Then as now, how do you deal with people in circumstance
• 10:39 when people treat you wrong?
• 10:41 Do you break, do you renegotiate?
• 10:43 What do you do with all that?
• 10:44 Well, I want to explore this further.
• 10:47 I'm gonna tell you on the front end now that I think a secret to
• 10:52 success in life has to do with character, keeping covenant.
• 10:58 These people thought so as well, and they made it
• 11:00 and they wouldn't break it, and this indeed is
• 11:05 a secret to success in life.
• 11:07 I wanna tease out some applications.
• 11:10 I wanna explore the implications.
• 11:13 And like Joshua, I wanna show you how, with these principles,
• 11:17 you can be more than a conqueror.
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• 13:36 with Dr. Seif's teaching.
• 13:40 Jeffrey: When I think about how important the little things
• 13:43 are, I realize, truth be known, there really are
• 13:46 no such thing as little things.
• 13:50 I mention that, you know, people talk about white lies,
• 13:53 just a little fib, or maybe there's just little ways
• 13:58 that people kinda drop the ball.
• 14:01 Maybe they don't keep their word, just little things.
• 14:06 What if those little things aren't that little?
• 14:10 When I think of something that little, I'm reminded of the fact
• 14:14 that it factors really large in the story of Joshua,
• 14:19 where when we're at Gibeon, we're dealing with those
• 14:23 who dwell therein, the Gibeonites.
• 14:25 We learn that there's no such thing as a little thing when
• 14:29 it comes to someone keeping their word.
• 14:35 Interestingly, it's described in the Bible.
• 14:38 A pious person is someone who keeps their word.
• 14:41 They keep a vow even to their own harm.
• 14:47 The Bible's a great story. We're looking at one here.
• 14:50 To recap it, Joshua enters into a contract with those from
• 14:57 Gibeon, and it is a contract made by deceit, by stealth.
• 15:02 He was snookered. It's interesting, by the way.
• 15:04 A man who showed himself to be so very strategic in his battle
• 15:08 at Ai is duped by a strategic people here.
• 15:12 And he realizes it, and they realize it, and it leaves a sour
• 15:17 taste in his and their, that is, the people of Israel's mouths.
• 15:21 Nevertheless, Joshua opts to keep his word.
• 15:27 Why is that there in the biblical text?
• 15:29 When I think of seven years of conflict, major conflict, things
• 15:33 big, medium, and small, why is it something that's so small
• 15:37 as this is given a considerable amount of
• 15:40 attention in a book like this?
• 15:43 I think it's because it's not small at all.
• 15:45 That if Israel is going to be successful,
• 15:49 it's going to have something to do with the value system
• 15:52 that resonates within Israelites.
• 15:56 That is to say, a Judeo--what we today refer to as a
• 15:59 Judeo-Christian ethic to be successful in life.
• 16:05 And when I think in Joshua, of course you've heard me to
• 16:07 repeat, "More than a conquerer," when I think of him, I think
• 16:10 there are a salient virtues within him that sets him apart
• 16:15 from others, one of which is an intransigency, that is to say,
• 16:21 will not be moved from keeping his word.
• 16:26 Now, I'm gonna look at the Word in a second, but before I get
• 16:28 there, I wanna tell you just as a dad who raised boys, I told
• 16:32 my sons, not that they're gonna listen, but at least
• 16:35 I communicated to them, "You're gonna meet a girl.
• 16:37 She's real cool, real hot, real rich, real biased.
• 16:40 Whatever it is, if she says she's gonna meet you
• 16:42 at 5 o'clock and she's not there, dump her.
• 16:46 You might think she's great. I think she's a Venus flytrap.
• 16:48 You're gonna land on her and get devoured."
• 16:51 I don't want my boys being with people that aren't good
• 16:55 for their word, even in small things.
• 16:57 Now, of course I realize things come up.
• 16:59 That's why God created cell phones.
• 17:01 People can communicate.
• 17:02 But with a lack thereof, if it's just someone who's not known to
• 17:05 be good for their word, I don't want them in my family system.
• 17:09 The extent to which I can control that as the
• 17:11 boys grow up is open to question, but at least
• 17:13 I wanted them to hear it from me.
• 17:16 And you know, Yeshua said as much too.
• 17:19 He says, you know, let your yes be yes and your no be no.
• 17:22 You shouldn't even need to swear, in his, I call it,
• 17:25 Torah from the Top.
• 17:26 Others call it the Sermon on the Mount.
• 17:29 He is reflecting on the essence and substance, the constitution
• 17:33 for a Christian life, a walk with the Lord.
• 17:35 And foremost in all of that is people mean what they say
• 17:40 and they say what they mean.
• 17:43 When people swear, "I swear to God I'm gonna do this.
• 17:45 I swear, I swear," they're coming from a value deficit.
• 17:48 It should be their word is sufficient.
• 17:50 They say they're gonna do it and they do it.
• 17:52 But if you have to embellish it with, "I promise I'll do
• 17:54 this and that," it means in you're mind you don't
• 17:57 think the person you're talking to is taking you
• 17:58 seriously, thus the need to embellish.
• 18:01 And why is that?
• 18:02 'Cause you've calculated the fact that your word doesn't
• 18:05 have equity in their mind, and there's a reason for that.
• 18:08 You probably broke it down.
• 18:09 Well, I wanna look here in the text.
• 18:11 I'll read it in Hebrew first. I'm in chapter 9 and verse 19.
• 18:15 And the word is out to keep the word, and the people don't
• 18:19 like it, but the prince's way in, that is to say,
• 18:22 Joshua sets the tone as the principal leader and then
• 18:26 his lieutenants carry out his word.
• 18:29 You'll see people are murmuring in verse 18, but in verse 19,
• 18:33 "Vaiyomeru chol hannesi'im 'el kol ha-Edah."
• 18:36 All the princes of the congregation said to the people,
• 18:42 "Anachnu nishbanu lahem Adonai."
• 18:45 We have sworn to the Lord, "Elohei Yisrael,"
• 18:49 the God of Israel.
• 18:50 "But we promised.
• 18:52 We gave our word to the God of Israel," they say.
• 18:55 It's very, very interesting.
• 18:56 "Ve'attah lo nuchal lingoa bahem."
• 19:00 "Now therefore, we may not touch them."
• 19:04 That is to say, we cannot go back on our word.
• 19:08 It reminds me of the Lord.
• 19:10 He says if others are faithless, nevertheless, he is faithful.
• 19:15 And to that end, let me just share a comment, a pivot to
• 19:19 a principle, what it means to be Christian essentially.
• 19:23 You know, you hear in the text Rabbi Paul talks about
• 19:26 confessing with your lips that Jesus is Lord.
• 19:29 We talk about the sinners prayer today.
• 19:32 I like it more as a commitment to allegiance to a Sovereign.
• 19:36 That is, we call him Lord.
• 19:39 There's a social contract there that we as a subject,
• 19:41 there's inherent commitments with that.
• 19:44 And by the way, there's reciprocity.
• 19:47 THere's commitments that come from the
• 19:48 Sovereign by virtue of that.
• 19:51 Would that we learn to make sure there's no daylight.
• 19:55 Would that we kept it tight, where there's integrity, where
• 19:58 there's correlation between what we say and what we do.
• 20:02 That is extremely important, and if we learn that like Joshua,
• 20:06 we will be more than a conqueror.
• 20:13 Jeffrey: Was a windy day in Israel.
• 20:15 I had an opportunity to sit down and talk to Chaim Malespin.
• 20:19 We discussed integrity and how it plays out
• 20:22 in the Israeli Defense Forces.
• 20:26 Jeffrey: Chaim, I wanna speak to you about those from Gibeon.
• 20:29 They deceived Joshua and the Israelis, didn't they?
• 20:32 Chaim Malespin: They did.
• 20:34 They tricked them with those tattered clothes.
• 20:35 Jeffrey: They surely did.
• 20:36 And you know, even after they learned they were tricked,
• 20:40 the Israelis kept the commitment they made to them,
• 20:44 a commitment that was made through treachery, yes?
• 20:48 Chaim: Yes, but a commitment's a commitment
• 20:49 and a word is our bond.
• 20:51 Jeffrey: And with that, I wanna talk to you not just
• 20:53 about strength, and certainly the Israeli army
• 20:57 is known about that.
• 20:59 I wanna talk about strength of character, that is to say,
• 21:03 speaking and keeping what it is you say.
• 21:06 Can you talk to us about that and how that
• 21:08 works in the Israeli army?
• 21:10 Chaim: So, I see that the strength of character
• 21:12 is this loyalty.
• 21:14 We talked about tenacious--tenacity for the
• 21:17 mission, but this loyalty to our friends and to our land,
• 21:20 and to God essentially, is something
• 21:23 that perseveres and drives through.
• 21:25 Jeffrey: To that, I think there needs to be congruity
• 21:28 between what we say and what we do.
• 21:31 And in the military, there's the term "Band of brothers."
• 21:33 That's bantered around beyond the Israeli Defense Forces, but
• 21:36 there's a commitment to defend, to protect, to work together
• 21:40 'til death do we part, and it really has to be us
• 21:43 keeping our word, yes?
• 21:45 Last word's yours.
• 21:46 Chaim: Entebbe '76, think how crazy and scary it was for our
• 21:49 own Prime Minister's brother, Yoni, to have died there to
• 21:52 rescue those hostages, but they did it and we must continue to
• 21:55 do our part in God's unfolding of his prophetic plan for today.
• 22:01 Jeffrey: Thank you.
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• 24:42 David: It is always great to hear from our dear friend
• 24:44 and brother, Chaim Malespin.
• 24:46 We love him.
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• 24:53 Jeffrey: Yes.
• 24:55 Kirsten: And I need to bring this up.
• 24:56 This has been on my mind as we've kinda chewed
• 24:59 on this whole topic.
• 25:01 Do we hold to our word even though we know
• 25:05 someone's deceived us?
• 25:06 That's--that's hard.
• 25:08 Jeffrey: It really is, and Joshua gave an example of that.
• 25:12 But the issue to me is so profoundly important
• 25:15 in our culture, integrity.
• 25:17 There needs to be congruity, and I say this in the teaching,
• 25:20 between what we say, who we are, and what we do.
• 25:23 It doesn't mean just telling the truth.
• 25:26 We should represent ourself in a way that's truthful to what
• 25:29 ourselves and who ourselves, what we're all about.
• 25:33 David: Right, I think if-- Kirsten: Yeah, that's hard.
• 25:35 David: If we listened that small voice every time we heard
• 25:37 it and trusted that it's God speaking to us, I think
• 25:41 things would be so different in our world.
• 25:43 Jeffrey: Yes, and with that, if we would just be--I want it
• 25:46 to be it's the same Jeffrey Seif who's on a TV set,
• 25:49 who's lecturing in a classroom, who's with his wife,
• 25:52 and with a friend, we're out to eat.
• 25:54 The same person, not work with, you know,
• 25:58 with different facades to post.
• 26:01 That's a lack of integrity.
• 26:03 Even if you're not saying an untruth,
• 26:05 you're living an untruth.
• 26:07 And it's healthier spiritually, emotionally, personally to bring
• 26:12 it all together and just be you, whatever that is.
• 26:16 Kirsten: And we have to credit Joshua for that.
• 26:18 Even finding out afterwards, "I've been duped.
• 26:21 I've been tricked," I think we've all had that in life,
• 26:24 but he kept his word.
• 26:27 And our program's title is "Our Jewish Roots."
• 26:30 You wanna know what those roots are?
• 26:32 They're good roots.
• 26:33 They're roots of integrity, and Joshua gives us
• 26:35 that example today.
• 26:37 Jeffrey: Yes, character is so important.
• 26:38 Thanks for bringing us back to the point.
• 26:40 I was kinda spiraling out there with a number of things,
• 26:42 but yes indeed.
• 26:45 Kirsten: You are always so smart and you bring such a good Word.
• 26:48 Thank you for that insight today.
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