Caption transcript for Joshua: “At Jericho” (4/8)

• 00:00 ♪♪♪ male announcer: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots" with insightful Bible teaching from Israel with Dr. Jeffrey Seif. This week, we see how faith overcomes walls of stone on
• 00:16 "Joshua: More Than a Conqueror." ♪♪♪
• 00:26 ♪♪♪
• 00:36 ♪♪♪
• 00:46 ♪♪♪
• 00:54 David Hart: We thank you for joining us today on,
• 00:55 "Our Jewish Roots."
• 00:57 I'm David Hart.
• 00:58 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 00:59 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: And I am Jeffrey Seif.
• 01:01 And we are going on a journey today,
• 01:04 Jericho, a famous old city.
• 01:06 It's amazing to be there to walk among the rocks,
• 01:11 history of a bygone era.
• 01:12 We go back to the roots of Jewish beginnings
• 01:15 in the Holy Land as a nation state.
• 01:17 Kirsten: And all I can think is the song,
• 01:19 the Bible song--
• 01:21 ♪ And the walls came a tumblin' down ♪
• 01:23 That's what this is about today, right?
• 01:24 Those walls coming down.
• 01:26 Jeffrey: Yes, and God only knows some people need some
• 01:28 walls coming down in their own life so they can move on
• 01:31 to the next step in their life.
• 01:33 Maybe there's something to learn.
• 01:34 We'll see.
• 01:36 David: That's right.
• 01:37 We'll have more from Dr. Seif in Israel,
• 01:38 but right now, let's see what it was like for Joshua
• 01:41 before that battle.
• 01:44 ♪♪♪
• 01:47 Joshua: The ram's horn, different shapes,
• 01:50 different sizes, all reminders of Adonai's sacrificial
• 01:54 provision of a ram in place of Isaac.
• 01:59 When we hear it sound, we recall the miracle on Mount Moriah,
• 02:03 and now as we face the imposing forces at Jericho,
• 02:06 the blast from the priest's horn will summon yet another miracle,
• 02:10 but first the soldiers under my command must be readied.
• 02:21 Joshua: Needs sharpening. This one, replace it.
• 02:27 This is a poor sampling. You can do better than this.
• 02:32 See to it that your men are armed well for tomorrow.
• 02:35 They'll precede the priests and the Ark of the Covenant,
• 02:38 and see to it that the priests have their shofar as well.
• 02:42 Can this be done by day's end?
• 02:44 male: I think so.
• 02:46 Joshua: That's not enough.
• 02:47 We circle the city at sunrise.
• 02:50 I need to know that this can be done.
• 02:54 male: Yes, sir.
• 03:01 Joshua: I encountered an angel yesterday.
• 03:04 male: Sir?
• 03:05 Joshua: An angel.
• 03:07 He had a sword in his hands and said he was the captain
• 03:11 of the hosts of the Lord, of Adonai.
• 03:19 I've used this in many a battle, but I shudder to think how
• 03:24 quickly he could've overcome me.
• 03:29 male: What did you do?
• 03:30 Joshua: He told me to loosen my sandals for I was standing
• 03:34 on holy ground, and I made haste to do just that.
• 03:40 male: Sir, I'll gather my men and prepare as you've requested.
• 03:44 Tomorrow we take Jericho.
• 03:45 Joshua: No, it won't be tomorrow.
• 03:51 The Lord told me we would march around the walls once a day,
• 03:55 for six days, and on the seventh day,
• 03:58 we will encircle the wall seven times.
• 04:01 Then, and only then, will the entire company shout
• 04:06 when the shofars are blown.
• 04:08 male: I'll prepare the ropes as well so we can scale
• 04:10 the walls.
• 04:11 Joshua: That won't be necessary.
• 04:12 male: Then how do we take the city?
• 04:14 Joshua: The walls will fall on their own.
• 04:16 male: On their own?
• 04:18 Joshua: Yes, one stone upon another,
• 04:22 until the walls are no more, and then our armed men
• 04:26 will enter and utterly destroyed the city.
• 04:33 If every man does as the Lord has commanded,
• 04:36 Jericho will soon be ours.
• 04:41 Joshua: Go.
• 04:42 ♪♪♪
• 04:50 Jeffrey: And the walls came a tumblin' down.
• 04:53 Joshua called it some 3,400 years ago,
• 04:56 and it happened just as he foretold,
• 04:59 right here in Jericho.
• 05:03 Walking among the ruins is to walk through the verses
• 05:05 of Joshua chapter 7, and consider
• 05:08 the extraordinary faith of a remarkable conqueror.
• 05:13 Jeffrey: There are 20, 20 discernible layers here
• 05:19 in what is, if not the oldest city in the world,
• 05:23 certainly one of the oldest.
• 05:26 I wanna be careful as I walk among these ruins.
• 05:30 Look here, you can see the remains of an old wall,
• 05:34 and this ruin speaks to an old wall.
• 05:36 I don't know that this is the one that tumbled
• 05:38 'cause it's one of the 20 layers that are discernible.
• 05:41 This one's still standing here at a city called Jericho.
• 05:46 It's noted in the book Devarim, in the book of Psalms as a city
• 05:50 of palms, and the reason is and the reason why Jericho was
• 05:55 inhabited so long ago is because here there are copious springs
• 06:00 around about, and when there's water, there's life,
• 06:03 and when there's life, there's people,
• 06:05 and when there's life and people, there's palm.
• 06:09 It's a world that's springing forth from a wilderness
• 06:13 that sprung forth many, many years ago,
• 06:17 and this, friends, was the first stop on the train when Joshua
• 06:23 and company make their entrance onto the stage
• 06:26 of the historical drama.
• 06:29 A battle royal was raged here in Jericho,
• 06:33 but before the men got to fighting,
• 06:35 the Lord went ahead and did some fighting first.
• 06:38 We're told here, before they get to the city of Jericho,
• 06:42 in the 5th chapter, "And it came to pass that,
• 06:46 when Joshua was by Jericho, he lifted up his eyes and looked,
• 06:51 and, behold, and there stood a man over against him
• 06:54 with his sword drawn in his hand."
• 06:57 Joshua we're told then was curious
• 07:00 who's side this guy was on.
• 07:04 "He said, 'Are you for us, or are you for our adversaries?'
• 07:08 And he said, [speaking in Hebrew].
• 07:15 He says, "No, I am the captain of the Lord of hosts."
• 07:22 Very interesting expression.
• 07:25 Joshua, in effect, has an experience.
• 07:29 He has a religious visitation.
• 07:33 I mention this because some people are tutored up
• 07:35 intellectually on things divine.
• 07:38 Others have an encounter.
• 07:41 And the leaders, the history makers have some kind
• 07:45 of experience with God showing up,
• 07:48 and in that conquest was the issue of the day.
• 07:52 Here before it all gets going, the Lord shows up,
• 07:57 sends his messenger, angelic, if you will,
• 08:00 as the captain of the Lord of hosts,
• 08:03 who is going to go with Joshua as Joshua went
• 08:08 into the Promised Land.
• 08:11 "Joshua," we're told, as we read on,
• 08:14 "fell on his face and bowed down--"
• 08:17 and that, by the way, is the proper response to the divine,
• 08:23 a kind of humility, a kind of being awestruck by it--
• 08:27 "and he said the question, [speaking in Hebrew]?
• 08:37 He bows down and asks the question of this heaven-sent
• 08:40 emissary, he says to him, 'What saith my Lord to his servant?'"
• 08:49 By the way, wouldn't the world be a better place if religious
• 08:53 leaders understood themselves as a servant subjected
• 08:57 to a higher authority?
• 09:00 In fact, the word "minister" itself comes
• 09:02 from the Latin "minus."
• 09:04 It means "less than," that is, "a servant to," and here's
• 09:07 Joshua, the one who's vested with responsibility to lead
• 09:12 two million souls into the future, and he bows down.
• 09:17 He's humbled, and he says, "What is your word to your servant?"
• 09:24 And we're told, "The captain of the Lord's host said to him,
• 09:28 'Put off thy shoe from off the foot,
• 09:32 for the place whereon thou standest is holy."
• 09:36 There's a famous song in the Christian world,
• 09:40 anyways, that "We Are Standing on Holy Ground."
• 09:44 When people have a sense of dwelling amidst the sacred,
• 09:50 it evokes a kind of sincerity and piety that wouldn't
• 09:54 otherwise be there.
• 09:56 I say that it used to be the church structures themselves
• 09:59 were built to denote the kind of sacred space.
• 10:03 That is to say, it's sticks and bricks,
• 10:05 to be sure, but it's a dwelling, the only utility
• 10:09 of which is a place for worship, that is to say, sacred space,
• 10:14 that is to say, holy ground.
• 10:17 Would that we all we're humbled the more so when
• 10:20 we enter into that space?
• 10:23 I think personally that if individuals were more humbled
• 10:27 in the face of Divine, they might hear from him.
• 10:31 So many times, you know, people don't hear from the Lord.
• 10:35 God's voice is obfuscated by their own anxieties
• 10:39 and secular concerns, legitimate those concerns may be.
• 10:45 If we are going to be more than conquerors,
• 10:49 we need the good Lord's help in going forth into the battle,
• 10:54 and I should say God is more predisposed to help those.
• 10:59 We're told that he raises up the humble.
• 11:03 We're told that he humbles the exalted,
• 11:07 and here's someone who is coming into his own
• 11:11 as a world-class leader, a religious leader,
• 11:16 a military leader.
• 11:18 This man's life is gonna be characterized by results and,
• 11:23 I should say, against all odds.
• 11:26 When Joshua began, when he scouted out the land,
• 11:29 people were intimidated by the locals.
• 11:32 They were not only intimidated by the size of the locals--
• 11:35 they were much bigger-- but they were intimidated
• 11:38 by the fortifications.
• 11:40 And approaching Jericho, this walled city with large
• 11:45 inhabitants in it, Joshua was ready to jump into the fray,
• 11:50 but before he donned his own armor,
• 11:53 he approaches someone who is God's
• 11:56 haven't sent messenger to him.
• 11:59 He humbles himself as unto the Lord,
• 12:02 and he worships God.
• 12:05 He's gonna rise up from that and do great things.
• 12:09 Would that we learn the lesson?
• 12:12 For if we did, like Joshua, we would be more than conquerors.
• 12:19 ♪♪♪
• 12:30 Jeffrey: Our Creator showed certain places on the planet
• 12:33 to reveal himself and his message of redemption to us.
• 12:38 Mount Sinai, Moriah, Olives, the Mount of Beatitudes,
• 12:43 as well as various seas, rivers, and deserts,
• 12:45 these were the places.
• 12:48 Some are now only ruins, yet they continue to tell
• 12:51 of the Lord's faithfulness and love.
• 12:54 These sacred backdrops have been beautifully captured
• 12:57 in our resource this week, the book "Heaven and Earth:
• 13:03 Landmarks of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation."
• 13:07 Our producer and director Ken Berg has assembled some
• 13:10 of his favorite photographs taken during his four decades
• 13:15 of travel through the lands of the Bible.
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• 13:25 ♪♪♪
• 13:27 ♪ They too were all forgiven ♪
• 13:28 ♪ This is the King of the Jews ♪
• 13:33 ♪ This is the King of the Jews ♪
• 13:38 ♪ They thought they killed him ♪
• 13:41 ♪ They thought he was gone ♪
• 13:44 ♪ They thought they ruled the world ♪
• 13:48 ♪ they and they alone ♪
• 13:51 ♪ But God was glorified, a victory won ♪
• 13:57 ♪ the one they called King of the Jews ♪
• 14:07 ♪ Kings may come and kings may go ♪
• 14:10 ♪ Men will always bare his cross ♪
• 14:13 ♪ May they say, oh my Yeshua ♪
• 14:17 ♪ this is the King of the Jews ♪
• 14:21 ♪ This is the King of the Jews ♪
• 14:26 [singing in Hebrew]
• 14:31 ♪ This is the King of the Jews ♪
• 14:38 ♪ This is the King of the Jews ♪
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• 15:49 Now let's go back to Dr. Jeffrey Seif,
• 15:51 teaching from Israel.
• 15:54 [blowing shofar]
• 15:58 ♪♪♪
• 16:00 Jeffrey: They marched, they blew,
• 16:04 and the walls came a tumbling down.
• 16:08 Children learn this story from a young age,
• 16:12 and it's a story about the miraculous.
• 16:15 It certainly is worth having a look at,
• 16:18 and it's good to be reminded that God does the miraculous.
• 16:22 What's troublesome in the story--and I wanna address it
• 16:25 on the front end when we look at the conquest of Jericho--
• 16:30 is that it says in chapter 6, verse 17, it says,
• 16:34 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 16:37 That is to say, "A city that was devoted
• 16:40 to utter destruction."
• 16:43 Other language for it is "The city was placed under the ban."
• 16:47 That means everything dies.
• 16:49 Nothing is taken.
• 16:51 It's not a war in the conventional sense,
• 16:53 the way they were fought out in antiquity: Men fought men,
• 16:56 and the winner made off with the spoils of war,
• 17:00 the plunder: women, livestock, various goods, and the like.
• 17:05 No, this was wholly devoted to the Lord.
• 17:09 It is something that invokes the ire,
• 17:13 understandably, of the conscience of moderns,
• 17:16 and as we look at the story, I wanna begin
• 17:18 by tendering something of an explanation for it.
• 17:22 In the violent Middle East-- and if you look at Jericho,
• 17:25 it's right there at the edge-- there's worlds that collide,
• 17:29 North Africa, the armies came through this area,
• 17:34 Asia, Europe, these overland routes.
• 17:37 This was an area where armies came all the time,
• 17:42 and here at this point in time,
• 17:44 you have a very decisive victory.
• 17:49 Troublesome as it is at various levels,
• 17:51 it reminds me of the way World War II came to an end
• 17:55 from an American perspective, that is to say,
• 17:58 Hiroshima and Nagasaki were placed under the ban.
• 18:01 They calculated, and the thinking was "If we hit it hard
• 18:04 at the front end, this will take the energy out of the system."
• 18:09 We already see, when we look at the story in Jericho,
• 18:12 that people were afraid by the encroaching Israelite army,
• 18:17 and this sense of the way that this story unfolded,
• 18:22 not only gives an explicit victory here in Jericho
• 18:27 when I'm coming from here in Jericho, not only that,
• 18:29 it sends out a message into the region where others
• 18:34 are dispirited and those that are more apt to--
• 18:38 those that are more dispirited and fearful,
• 18:41 they're more apt to be more reticent, reluctant.
• 18:44 It gives the Israelites an advantage here by having
• 18:49 a strong beginning on the front end.
• 18:52 It provides, as I'd said, something of an advantage
• 18:55 that wouldn't otherwise be there.
• 18:57 Well, I wanna speak to the moment in the biblical text,
• 19:01 not so much offer a defense for it,
• 19:03 as much as to unpack one or two elements of it.
• 19:07 We're looking in the book of Joshua,
• 19:11 and as I'd noted, we're in the 6th chapter.
• 19:14 It closes, by the way, in verse 27:
• 19:17 "So the Lord was with Joshua,
• 19:20 and his fame was in all the land."
• 19:24 I noted that a decisive victory telegraph's strength,
• 19:28 and that bodes well for the Israelite armies,
• 19:31 but before we get there, in the 6th chapter, we're told,
• 19:36 if you'll go down with me, please, in verse 20,
• 19:39 the story here that the priests and the people,
• 19:44 they blow the horns, they march,
• 19:47 and we're told the wall fell down flat.
• 19:51 Now, the felling of the wall in Jericho
• 19:54 here in this place wasn't the victory.
• 19:59 You say, "What do you mean by that, Jeffrey?"
• 20:01 Well, the wall leveled the playing field, if you will.
• 20:06 The fact that the people in the city were in a wall,
• 20:10 they were up on the ramparts.
• 20:11 It gave them a tactical advantage,
• 20:14 and the Israelites weren't used to taking cities.
• 20:16 They were gonna have to get them more used to it,
• 20:18 but what happens here, when the walls come down,
• 20:22 that's not the end of the war.
• 20:24 It's just the beginning of it.
• 20:26 The Israelites still have to marshal their courage,
• 20:30 and they have to go through the rubble and make their way
• 20:34 in a world where combat was man to man,
• 20:38 hand to hand, and that took courage.
• 20:42 The point is, they still had to do it.
• 20:45 I know many, you know, religious people,
• 20:47 "Oh, Lord, please do it," and, "Lord--"and the Lord does it,
• 20:51 the Lord goes with his people, but that does not exempt them
• 20:55 from participating in the war effort.
• 20:59 You know, people pray for good jobs.
• 21:01 This is good. We should.
• 21:04 Doesn't hurt as well to get an education and put out
• 21:06 a lot of resumes and work at it.
• 21:08 It doesn't hurt.
• 21:10 Just expecting success to drop out of heaven,
• 21:13 I know you can hear that in church,
• 21:15 "Just come to this church, put your money here,
• 21:17 and all the bad things are gonna stop,
• 21:19 and it's all gonna come out of heaven--"
• 21:21 listen, I think if something sounds too good to be true,
• 21:23 it probably is.
• 21:25 It's not as simple as that, at least not here.
• 21:28 The one who tells this story doesn't believe that.
• 21:31 The one who tells this story gives the vision of God with us.
• 21:36 They still have to marshal the courage,
• 21:38 marshal the energies, and throw themselves
• 21:41 against the trouble of the day, and this they did.
• 21:44 Were told here the wall fell flat.
• 21:47 That is, it levels the playing field "so that the people
• 21:51 went up into the city, every man straight before him,
• 21:56 and they took the city."
• 22:00 I like this, by the way, of you see divine intervention.
• 22:04 You see the supernatural.
• 22:07 You see men marshaling their energies and throwing them
• 22:12 against the troubles of the day and doing what the Lord
• 22:16 has put in front of them to do, and that, my friends,
• 22:20 is a good word to my way of thinking.
• 22:23 In this series, "Joshua, More Than a Conqueror,"
• 22:29 we're looking at success in life.
• 22:31 How does that happen?
• 22:34 There's a lot of people that aren't enjoying success.
• 22:37 Friends, I think you might find a recipe for it here from the
• 22:42 ruins of tell Jericho, a story here of someone who seeks God,
• 22:49 that is Joshua.
• 22:50 He's reaching out to God.
• 22:52 God reaches down to him.
• 22:54 There's a divine messenger.
• 22:55 There's a divine appointment.
• 22:57 There's courage.
• 22:58 There's God going before them, and there's Joshua leading
• 23:02 his men on into the fray, and at the end of the day,
• 23:08 guess what happened?
• 23:09 They won.
• 23:12 Could there be applications for us?
• 23:14 I think there very well could be,
• 23:17 and I'll hope you'll find some in it.
• 23:19 Here's Joshua, Yeshua.
• 23:22 That, by the way, is the name for Jesus.
• 23:25 Can he lead you and me to have good success?
• 23:28 I think so.
• 23:30 There's a principle here in God's Word.
• 23:32 Learn it, live it, and, like Joshua,
• 23:35 you'll be more than a conqueror.
• 23:38 ♪♪♪
• 23:51 David: Our dramatic reenactment brings you a clear picture
• 23:54 of what that battle was like.
• 23:56 I've got to think about what my Sunday school teacher,
• 23:59 back in, I think it was second grade, taught on Jericho.
• 24:03 I remember singin' the song that you talked about earlier.
• 24:06 It was a little different from our Sunday school teacher
• 24:09 teaching us about that.
• 24:10 Jeffrey: Well, I wasn't there for the lesson,
• 24:12 but it's the same story at the end of the day,
• 24:15 but I think, you know, Bible teaching comes to us
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• 25:00 David: That's right.
• 25:01 So it wasn't a sweet little song that we sang in second grade
• 25:03 about the walls come a tumblin' down.
• 25:05 It was a lot more graphic.
• 25:07 He had to go through a lot more for that battle.
• 25:09 Jeffrey: Well, it's war, and we're removed, many of us,
• 25:12 from the trauma and tragedy of war,
• 25:16 having to bear arms, having to roll the dice
• 25:20 against an uncertain future.
• 25:21 Those walls came down, but people had to crawl over
• 25:24 the rubble and fight, you know?
• 25:25 It wasn't just an easy win.
• 25:27 It wasn't a giveaway at the end of the day.
• 25:29 A lot of people think with the Gospel, with Jesus,
• 25:31 it's a giveaway, just sit in this pew
• 25:33 and say this prayer, and no more cares.
• 25:35 That's not the way the game is played.
• 25:37 God leveled the playing field, taking away the advantage
• 25:41 of those in a walled city, but they still had to go contend,
• 25:44 and I think that's a lesson we all need to learn,
• 25:46 me, you, all of us.
• 25:48 David: Right, we are learning more about our Jewish roots
• 25:51 in so many of these stories.
• 25:52 Kirsten: That's why this is so important 'cause
• 25:54 I think we flower it up a bit, this whole story.
• 25:58 There is hand-to-hand combat.
• 26:00 We don't think that way.
• 26:02 The Israelites were doing something that was hard.
• 26:06 It wasn't just like a blow the shofar, and it falls down.
• 26:08 Jeffrey: That's right.
• 26:10 Kirsten: That's the other side of the story that is
• 26:11 so important for us to learn with our Jewish roots.
• 26:14 It's important.
• 26:15 Jeffrey: To your point, we're a tad bit removed
• 26:17 from those tensions in our culture.
• 26:19 We're in America.
• 26:20 We have thousands of miles of water separating us
• 26:23 from folk in the Pacific and the Atlantic worlds.
• 26:25 We're not worrying about an invasion from Canada,
• 26:29 and, really, no armies are coming up from Mexico.
• 26:32 So we don't have that experience unless you're part
• 26:34 of the thin blue line.
• 26:36 The police have to bear arms in the culture, and, you know,
• 26:39 I participate in that,
• 26:41 but to be sure to your point, a lot of us are a few steps
• 26:44 removed from the whole battling up, arming up,
• 26:48 that was part and parcel to this world,
• 26:50 David: Right, I was gonna say,
• 26:51 I have not been in battle.
• 26:53 I have not been a soldier or been a policeman like you.
• 26:56 Our son has been through that, but I wanna be like Joshua
• 26:59 in all that I do.
• 27:01 Jeffrey: Amen, more than a conqueror.
• 27:03 David: Right.
• 27:04 Jeffrey: And that's a good thing to wanna be.
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• 27:09 [speaking in Hebrew]
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