
Bonus Interviews, Part 2
Extended interviews with individuals appearing in this series: David Parsons the Vice President of the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem, Singer Pat Boone, and Yehuda Glick a member of the Israeli Knesset.
Air dates: 2018-Dec-12, 2019-Dec-18
Production Code: 1821
Episode 10 of 10 in the series “Return to Eden”
Duration: 28:30
Year: 2018
Series code: DRTE
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Caption transcript for Return to Eden: “Bonus Interviews,” Part 2 (10/10)
- 00:01 Kirsten Hart: Knesset member Yehuda Glick explains the importance of the Temple Mount. Yehuda and more interviews today
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 - 00:14 male announcer: "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God
 - 00:17 for Israel is, that they might be saved.
 - 00:21 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek:
 - 00:24 for the same Lord over all is rich unto all
 - 00:26 that call upon him."
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 - 00:49 David Hart: Thank you for joining us today
 - 00:50 on "Zola Levitt Presents," I'm David Hart.
 - 00:52 Kirsten: I'm Kirsten Hart. Jeffrey Seif: Jeffrey Seif.
 - 00:54 David: On today's program, we are going to hear from
 - 00:56 Dave Parsons, who's the Vice President
 - 00:58 of International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem.
 - 01:02 Also, we'll have an interview with Pat Boone,
 - 01:05 who was inspired to write the song "Exodus."
 - 01:08 Kirsten: We have another interview with a well-known
 - 01:10 name, Yehuda Glick in Israel.
 - 01:12 He's a Knesset member and he is a bold spokesman for the rights
 - 01:16 of the Temple Mount.
 - 01:19 Jeffrey: And like your husband said, off we go now
 - 01:22 to hear from David Parsons.
 - 01:25 I got to love him and you are gonna love him too.
 - 01:28 ♪♪♪
 - 01:34 Jeffrey: David, it's a pleasure to be with you.
 - 01:35 It's an honor, in fact.
 - 01:37 Could you tell us a little bit about your work with
 - 01:39 the International Christian Embassy?
 - 01:41 David Parsons: Well, I'm originally from North Carolina
 - 01:44 in the U.S., but I've been here in Jerusalem for over 20 years,
 - 01:49 working with the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem.
 - 01:53 And we're considered the world's largest Christian Zionist
 - 01:57 organization because we have such a global reach.
 - 02:01 We have branch offices in over 90 countries and a reach into
 - 02:04 more than 170 countries around the world, tapping into this
 - 02:10 incredible global movement of Christians.
 - 02:14 Unlike past generations, Christians today have a heart,
 - 02:17 a love, a care, and concern for Israel and the Jewish people.
 - 02:21 So, it's been an exciting two decades here in Jerusalem
 - 02:24 representing Christians from around the world to
 - 02:27 the government of Israel and to the people of Israel.
 - 02:30 Jeffrey: There's a lot of Christian enthusiasm for Israel.
 - 02:33 "Enthusiasm" comes from the Greek "enthios,"
 - 02:36 which means "in God."
 - 02:38 Can you tell us a little bit about how you
 - 02:39 understand the motivation?
 - 02:41 David: Well, I think that there's this incredible work
 - 02:45 of the Holy Spirit going on around the world today.
 - 02:48 We have in our generation something unique
 - 02:52 in the move of God, the revival.
 - 02:55 Say in China, more Chinese coming to faith in Jesus
 - 02:59 in our lifetime than in all the generations
 - 03:01 put together before it.
 - 03:03 The same for India, the same for Nigeria,
 - 03:06 the same for, say Brazil.
 - 03:09 A lot of countries that really the gospel never reached
 - 03:13 there before, in our day it's happening.
 - 03:15 And not only that, but these people are also very
 - 03:21 enthusiastic about Israel.
 - 03:23 They see the restoration of Israel and they have a very
 - 03:27 simple explanation for it, that the Israel today
 - 03:30 is the same as the Israel of the Bible.
 - 03:32 God still loves them.
 - 03:34 He's bringing them back and there's this real hunger and
 - 03:36 thirst to know more about it and to come here and visit the land.
 - 03:40 We have--unlike, you know, past generations, Christians would
 - 03:46 walk and travel for, you know, weeks and weeks at a time
 - 03:51 to this very earthly Jerusalem and take these long treks
 - 03:56 in the footsteps of some of the saints in their church.
 - 03:59 Today, it's Christians who can fly here overnight from all over
 - 04:03 the world, wanting to walk in the footsteps of Jesus,
 - 04:07 and the Apostles, and the Hebrew prophets, the patriarchs,
 - 04:12 to let the Bible come alive and also to see
 - 04:14 the modern miracle of Israel.
 - 04:17 I think that's where the enthusiasm is and the work
 - 04:20 of the Holy Spirit that so many multitudes coming to faith
 - 04:26 in Jesus and having a heart for his people.
 - 04:29 I think that they're in love with Israel
 - 04:32 because they're in love with the King of Israel.
 - 04:35 Jeffrey: And where on earth is a better place to recognize
 - 04:38 the King of Israel than in Jerusalem,
 - 04:41 the city of the King of kings?
 - 04:44 The recent move of the U.S. Embassy to the holy city
 - 04:47 has been a bold one and a timely one in many ways.
 - 04:52 I asked David to share his perspective on the move.
 - 04:56 David Parsons: Well, I think, you know, there's a symbolic
 - 04:59 act, but there's a lot of substance to it.
 - 05:02 It's the right thing to do for such a close ally of America,
 - 05:07 and I think it's another example of how Israel is singled out.
 - 05:11 And you'd have to say it's antisemitic that they're the
 - 05:14 only nation that does not--is not allowed the sovereign right
 - 05:18 of every nation to choose its own capital.
 - 05:21 So, this is the right thing to do.
 - 05:23 But I think spiritually it's a new season for Jerusalem.
 - 05:27 The nations are coming back. America is leading them up.
 - 05:31 And I think there's something about the question of Jerusalem
 - 05:34 in our day that is dividing the sheep and goat nations.
 - 05:38 Those countries that truly fear God and honor his Word more than
 - 05:43 they fear and honor men, they're going to make that decision,
 - 05:46 that right and proper decision to return to Jerusalem,
 - 05:50 and I think there are even benefits
 - 05:52 for the church out there.
 - 05:53 We've always seen as God restores things to Israel,
 - 05:57 he restores things to the church as well.
 - 05:59 They go in parallel.
 - 06:01 Jeffrey: It's a good day, is it not?
 - 06:03 David: Amen, and it's also a good day to visit Jerusalem, to
 - 06:08 come see where the Lord walked, and to come see the modern
 - 06:11 miracle of Israel, all that God has restored here,
 - 06:15 bringing people from over a hundred nations,
 - 06:18 making them one nation again with one language,
 - 06:20 reviving a dead language in an Israel
 - 06:24 that is not only surviving against all the challenges,
 - 06:27 and terror, and wars, but it's thriving,
 - 06:29 a high-tech nation giving all sorts of benefits to the world.
 - 06:33 Jeffrey: Thank you very much. David: Thank you.
 - 06:36 ♪♪♪
 - 06:44 David: It's been two years now since God called our son,
 - 06:47 Ryan, to Israel to work at the International Christian Embassy
 - 06:51 with David Parsons.
 - 06:52 We're still kinda blown away that our little boy--sorry,
 - 06:56 Ryan, you're 24 years old--that he was called to Jerusalem,
 - 07:00 just like so many are.
 - 07:01 Jeffrey: Yes, I think we're all called to work
 - 07:03 in the embassy.
 - 07:05 Your son behind the scenes, David Parsons to an extent in
 - 07:08 front of the scenes, our viewers who work behind the scenes
 - 07:12 to keep us in front of the scenes.
 - 07:14 We're all ambassadors at the end of the day.
 - 07:16 God's calling people back to Israel, back to Eden.
 - 07:19 In Genesis they were kicked out, but with Abraham
 - 07:22 there's this desire to return.
 - 07:24 And our viewers, many, many Christian peoples
 - 07:27 wanna go back here.
 - 07:29 Speaking of which, one of the foremost Christian
 - 07:31 musicians--nothing personal there, you guys are good--
 - 07:34 but I'll tell you, Pat Boone is one of the best kitties
 - 07:37 in the litter.
 - 07:38 Loves the Lord, loves the Jewish people.
 - 07:40 Let's hear from him now as he speaks to the issue of Ezekiel
 - 07:44 and the resurrection of the modern nation state of Israel.
 - 07:48 ♪♪♪
 - 07:53 announcer: "This is what the Sovereign Lord says:
 - 07:56 On the day I cleanse you from all your sins,
 - 07:59 I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt.
 - 08:05 The desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying
 - 08:08 desolate in the sight of all who pass through it.
 - 08:11 They will say, 'This land that was laid waste has become like
 - 08:14 the garden of Eden; the cities that were lying in ruins,
 - 08:18 desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited.'
 - 08:23 Then the nations around you that remain will know that I the Lord
 - 08:27 have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted
 - 08:31 what was desolate.
 - 08:33 I the Lord have spoken, and I will do it."
 - 08:41 Pat Boone: As we studied the Bible,
 - 08:42 I as a kid became aware that everything I was reading about
 - 08:48 seems to have happened in Israel.
 - 08:50 It was all about Jews.
 - 08:52 And as we read through the Old Testament into the New,
 - 08:55 I realized that, as an 11- and 12-year-old kid,
 - 09:00 that if I was gonna be saved, have eternal salvation,
 - 09:04 it was gonna be by accepting the Jewish Messiah.
 - 09:07 I mean, it was clear to me the whole thing was Jewish.
 - 09:11 So at barely 13, I walked down an aisle and confessed my sins,
 - 09:17 such as they were.
 - 09:19 I sinned a lot more and worse later, but confessed my sins,
 - 09:23 and was baptized, and became a Christian, a baptized believer.
 - 09:27 And that has shaped my life, but it's also kept me aware
 - 09:33 that I am, at least by adoption, Jewish.
 - 09:36 Paul says we are adopted or grafted into the family of God's
 - 09:40 chosen people through whom salvation
 - 09:43 to the world would come.
 - 09:46 So, I've had this sense of Jewishness all this time.
 - 09:49 I wear a chai and a magen David.
 - 09:53 And at the health club sometimes where this is all I'm wearing,
 - 09:57 some of the other guys will say, "Are you Jewish?"
 - 10:01 and I'll say, "Yeah."
 - 10:03 "Pat Boone, you're Jewish?"
 - 10:05 Yeah, I'm a Jew. I'm adopted.
 - 10:08 I'm adopted into the family of God's chosen people.
 - 10:10 My rabbi is a carpenter's Son from Nazareth.
 - 10:14 David: Pat Boone's love for the carpenter's Son from
 - 10:16 Nazareth has grown year by year as evidenced by his willingness
 - 10:20 to use his talents for the Lord.
 - 10:23 In a TV series called, "The Nazareth Jesus Knew,"
 - 10:25 he shared his insights into the times and season of the one
 - 10:29 who has so dramatically impacted his life.
 - 10:32 Pat's left his own legacy of course in music,
 - 10:35 not only in America, but in Israel as well.
 - 10:38 His words from the song "Exodus" have left an indelible mark
 - 10:42 on the hearts and souls of a nation.
 - 10:47 ♪ So take my hand and walk this land with me. ♪
 - 10:57 ♪ And walk this golden land with me. ♪
 - 11:05 ♪ Though I am just a man, when you are by my side, ♪
 - 11:16 ♪ with the help of God, I know I can be strong. ♪
 - 11:27 Pat: It was Christmas Eve in 1959 and I'd been to the movie,
 - 11:32 the "Exodus" film, Paul Newman, Eva Marie Saint,
 - 11:35 the story of how Israel came to be.
 - 11:37 I'd read the Leon Uris book, but I'd also read the Moses book
 - 11:40 by the same title, Exodus.
 - 11:43 And I was so moved by the film and by that song,
 - 11:46 "Bom-bom, bom-bom-bom bom-bom-bom-bom-bom."
 - 11:49 Those aren't the words.
 - 11:51 I wrote the words because I sat down on Christmas Eve, listening
 - 11:55 to that melody by Ferrante and Teicher on the instrumental
 - 11:59 record, wanting to sing it but they're weren't any.
 - 12:02 And the publisher said, "There won't be any words.
 - 12:04 It's just an instrumental theme."
 - 12:06 But I wanted to get an idea to submit to some professional
 - 12:09 writer, so Shirley's begging me to help her get the last
 - 12:12 presents under the tree so we can go to bed.
 - 12:15 I said, "Honey, one more time.
 - 12:16 Let me hear this one more time."
 - 12:18 Put the needle on the record. Bom-bom, bom-bom.
 - 12:22 And the words just popped in my head, "This land is mine."
 - 12:28 That's the whole story of Israel in Exodus.
 - 12:31 "This land is mine."
 - 12:32 The next theme, bom-bom-bom-bom, bom-bom,
 - 12:35 "God gave this land to me."
 - 12:39 In 20 minutes, I kept putting the needle over and writing,
 - 12:42 like, dictation.
 - 12:43 It was just--I was getting the lyric as I listened to the
 - 12:46 melody and I wrote down what it was saying to me.
 - 12:50 "Until I die, this land is mine," a personal statement.
 - 12:53 Not trying to capture 2 1/2 million people
 - 12:57 coming across the desert, the walls of Jericho,
 - 12:59 all of that history.
 - 13:01 No, one man or one woman's conviction that this--God had
 - 13:06 created this land for him or her and she was possessing
 - 13:10 or he's possessing it.
 - 13:12 And that made it simple to write and I just finished it,
 - 13:16 the publisher accepted it, Ernest Gold, the composer,
 - 13:19 Otto Preminger, the director/producer of the film,
 - 13:22 and the words became the words of what's like
 - 13:26 the second Jewish national anthem.
 - 13:29 And today, I saw at Yad Vashem the Christmas card on which I
 - 13:36 wrote those words framed on the Wall of the Righteous Gentile.
 - 13:41 For me, telling you what I've already told you about my
 - 13:44 identification with Israel and the Jews, for this Gentile boy
 - 13:48 from Nashville to have written the words
 - 13:51 that is the second Jewish national anthem.
 - 13:54 And the director of Yad Vashem, Shaya Ben Yehuda, be one of
 - 13:59 our speakers at our big event celebrating the 70th anniversary
 - 14:03 of the modern state, he said, "We're trying to get every
 - 14:07 Jewish child in Israel to know those words you wrote."
 - 14:10 "This land is mine. God gave this land to me.
 - 14:13 And when the morning sun reveals her hills and plains,
 - 14:15 I see a land where children can run free."
 - 14:18 And they want every Jewish child to, if they can't sing the song,
 - 14:22 at least know those words by heart.
 - 14:24 "Until I die, this land is mine."
 - 14:27 So, I mean, I just feel like God put his hand on me and gave me
 - 14:32 the words, and I was just thanking God a little while ago
 - 14:36 again for the privilege of writing the words.
 - 14:41 They're the words of the anthem.
 - 14:42 They'll be singing it after I'm gone.
 - 14:44 But that Christmas card on which I wrote the words is there
 - 14:48 permanently on the Wall of the Righteous Gentile.
 - 14:53 ♪ If I must fight, ♪
 - 14:57 ♪ I'll fight to make this land our own. ♪
 - 15:03 ♪ Until I die ♪
 - 15:11 ♪ This land is mine. ♪
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 - 17:22 Jeffrey: Yes, and speaking of support, you're gonna hear from
 - 17:25 someone that we support as our friend Chaim Malespin interviews
 - 17:30 someone that someone tried to kill, literally.
 - 17:34 Yehuda Glick, a member of the Knesset in Israel,
 - 17:38 they tried to assassinate him.
 - 17:40 They wanted to put him out. We wanted to bring him forward.
 - 17:43 You're gonna love him and you're gonna find out why now.
 - 17:47 ♪♪♪
 - 17:56 Chaim Malespin: We're here in the eternal and undivided
 - 17:58 capital of Israel, Jerusalem, the center of the world,
 - 18:01 with member of Knesset, Yehuda Glick.
 - 18:03 It's such a pleasure to be with you, shalom.
 - 18:05 Yehuda Glick: Shalom.
 - 18:07 Shalom to you and shalom to all the people watching us
 - 18:09 from the eyeball of the world, from the origin of
 - 18:12 energy and light of the world, Jerusalem.
 - 18:15 Chaim: Amen, amen.
 - 18:16 You are one of the most outspoken members of Knesset
 - 18:19 for the Temple Mount.
 - 18:20 Why is that?
 - 18:23 Yehuda: As you probably have heard,
 - 18:25 there's a very good bestseller.
 - 18:26 It's called the Bible. You may have heard of the book.
 - 18:28 It's a very much recommended to read it.
 - 18:31 And there are millions of people are the world who believe in it,
 - 18:34 hundreds of millions.
 - 18:36 And according to that book, which I happen to be one of
 - 18:38 those hundreds of millions, the Temple Mount is
 - 18:42 the holiest place in the world.
 - 18:43 It is the place where God rests his divine presence,
 - 18:46 not as a place to be hidden, but as a place to be
 - 18:51 the origin of energy to the world,
 - 18:53 as a place where the house of prayer for all nations.
 - 18:56 as the place where the Word coming from Jerusalem,
 - 19:01 from Zion, comes out of there.
 - 19:03 Chaim: Do you believe that the Temple Mount should be
 - 19:05 a house of prayer for all nations,
 - 19:07 including the Jewish people?
 - 19:09 Yehuda: It's not I believe, it's Prophet Isaiah said,
 - 19:12 "All nations."
 - 19:13 And if he says, "All nations," he includes everybody, whether
 - 19:15 they're from Korea, Indonesia, or Mexico, Brazil, Italy,
 - 19:20 or Luxembourg.
 - 19:22 They're all nations.
 - 19:23 God is one and he created all the nations.
 - 19:26 He created all of mankind and he wants us all to be different and
 - 19:30 worship him together through the place where he chose to rest his
 - 19:33 divine presence, and that is the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
 - 19:36 Chaim: In one of the largest publications here in Jerusalem,
 - 19:39 you were referred to as the most dangerous man
 - 19:42 in the Middle East.
 - 19:44 How would you respond to that?
 - 19:45 Yehuda: Definitely make sure it's a little bit accurate.
 - 19:48 They quoted what some Chief of Police had said a few years ago.
 - 19:52 At the time, those people dealing with the Temple Mount
 - 19:57 were considered really very peculiar.
 - 19:59 We were just a small minority,
 - 20:01 but thank God things have changed.
 - 20:03 And today, just in the last poll which came out this week in
 - 20:07 Israel, more than 70% of the Israeli population believe
 - 20:11 that there should be freedom of religion for all
 - 20:13 on Temple Mount, including Jews, of course.
 - 20:16 And Christians should be able to come and pray in Temple Mount,
 - 20:19 because today the Temple Mount is--people can co-visit there,
 - 20:23 but only if you're Muslim, you're allowed to pray there.
 - 20:26 And we believe that the Temple Mount is created by God for all
 - 20:29 nations, and therefore we believe there should be freedom
 - 20:32 of prayer for all, and that's pretty much what I'm strongly
 - 20:35 involved here in my activity before I became a member of
 - 20:39 Knesset in May 2015, and it's been my deal ever since
 - 20:45 I've been a member of Knesset, to come out
 - 20:49 and call for support for that idea,
 - 20:52 of recognizing Jerusalem and recognizing the Temple Mount
 - 20:55 as a world center for shalom.
 - 20:58 And I always say shalom is not only peace, shalom is harmony.
 - 21:01 Shalom is inclusiveness.
 - 21:03 Shalom is having all the peoples united
 - 21:07 around the one and only God.
 - 21:09 Chaim: You've been doing an amazing job
 - 21:11 with this sensitive issue.
 - 21:12 Yehuda: I'm not doing it, it's all his.
 - 21:14 It's all his.
 - 21:15 Chaim: Christians are ever-growing in support
 - 21:17 for Israel, encouraged by Netanyahu, the Prime Minister.
 - 21:19 Is this good or dangerous?
 - 21:21 Yehuda: Look, we are living in biblical era.
 - 21:26 In the past, people would come to Israel, and visit, and see,
 - 21:29 and walk in the footsteps of the stories that took place
 - 21:31 in the Bible.
 - 21:33 Today, in the past century, we're walking in the footsteps
 - 21:35 of the words of the prophets coming out of the book
 - 21:37 and materializing.
 - 21:39 And the very establishment of the state of Israel is only--
 - 21:43 the only way you can explain it is a godly phenomenon.
 - 21:46 And the recognition of people from all over the world,
 - 21:49 including Christians, millions of Christians from all over
 - 21:51 the world, recognizing Israel is also an implementation
 - 21:56 of the words of the prophets.
 - 21:58 So yes, when Isaiah said that all the nations will be facing
 - 22:03 Jerusalem to receive the Word of God, he was including Christians
 - 22:08 from Texas and Oklahoma as well.
 - 22:10 Chaim: And we know all nations will come
 - 22:12 for the Feast of Tabernacles here to Jerusalem.
 - 22:14 Do you see a different unifying, uniting with Israel type of
 - 22:20 Christianity emerging, maybe different from a historical
 - 22:24 separating from Israel Christianity?
 - 22:27 Yehuda: I'm not a big professional in Christianity,
 - 22:29 but I can definitely think it's a new wave of the Word of God
 - 22:33 coming to the world, where when the State of Israel was
 - 22:36 established, it would be something impossible to think
 - 22:38 of that Christians around the world would recognize Israel.
 - 22:41 And today, we definitely see it as a big wave.
 - 22:45 And by the way, we're starting to see the same thing happening
 - 22:48 among moderate Muslim leadership, and I believe that
 - 22:55 is something that if God promised it, it's gonna happen.
 - 22:57 It's happening.
 - 22:58 Chaim: Can I ask you a more personal question?
 - 23:01 What are the circumstances surrounding your getting shot,
 - 23:04 your attempted murder, and has that aided, hindered,
 - 23:08 or actually increased your life's call for standing up
 - 23:12 for the Temple Mount and God's purposes there.
 - 23:14 Yehuda: On October 29, 2014, God saved my life after there
 - 23:19 was an attempt to assassinate me when I was dealing exactly
 - 23:22 what I was talking about just now, connecting the world
 - 23:25 to Jerusalem of peace, Jerusalem of shalom.
 - 23:29 And I was critically injured, four bullets to the center
 - 23:32 of my body, point blank, one foot away.
 - 23:38 People--at the beginning, the doctors had called my family
 - 23:40 to come and say goodbye.
 - 23:42 But God had other plans, and if God decided to save my life,
 - 23:46 it means that he felt that my mission has to continue.
 - 23:51 And therefore, as soon as I joined the Knesset, as I said,
 - 23:53 in May 2016, one of the first things I was doing is teaching
 - 23:59 about the Jerusalem covenant, which is the covenant which
 - 24:01 recognizes the fact that Jerusalem is a house
 - 24:05 of prayer for all nations.
 - 24:07 Because the person who shot me didn't shoot me
 - 24:09 because of the color my hair, he believed in what's
 - 24:11 the most dangerous thing for the world today, exclusiveness.
 - 24:15 People who believe that if you don't believe God
 - 24:17 the way I want, I can shoot you.
 - 24:19 We believe God is inclusive.
 - 24:22 Chaim: I feel many tour guides here in Israel don't
 - 24:24 express to Christian groups that visit the importance
 - 24:27 of the Temple Mount in Yeshua's ministry, such as when he says,
 - 24:30 "I am the water of life."
 - 24:31 Yehuda: It's interesting.
 - 24:33 When--in the past, when people were speaking the Muslim
 - 24:36 propaganda against Israel, were speaking about the Temple Mount,
 - 24:39 "There was never a temple there."
 - 24:41 And then one of the times, Arafat said that
 - 24:44 to Bill Clinton, the President of the United States,
 - 24:46 and he said, "Are you crazy?
 - 24:48 If there was no temple, there was no Christianity, because
 - 24:50 Christianity also begins when Jesus is on the Temple Mount
 - 24:54 and saying to those moneychangers,
 - 24:56 'Guys, you are here desecrating the Temple Mount.'"
 - 25:00 So, when King David purchased the place and named it the
 - 25:04 capital of God in the world, and his son Solomon builds
 - 25:08 the temple there, and the first temple is there,
 - 25:10 the second temple is there.
 - 25:12 Zerubabel, Ezra, Nehemiah, and Herod, building that
 - 25:16 beautiful temple there, all there on the Temple Mount.
 - 25:21 So, it's the eyeball, the heart of the universe.
 - 25:24 ♪♪♪
 - 25:34 Kirsten: We hope that you felt Yehuda's passion for God
 - 25:39 and what God is doing through all people, but still doing
 - 25:45 through the Jewish nation and Jewish people.
 - 25:48 Knesset member, it was life-changing.
 - 25:50 David: Yes, "passion" is the word.
 - 25:52 What's going on in Israel, in Jerusalem right now, there's
 - 25:55 so much excitement and we heard it from him today.
 - 25:59 Does that relate at all, do you think, Dr. Seif, to our series,
 - 26:02 "Return to Eden"?
 - 26:04 Jeffrey: I think so.
 - 26:05 By the way, the word "passion," it's the same word for "pain"
 - 26:07 and "pleasure" in the Greek.
 - 26:08 It's rather interesting.
 - 26:10 And when it comes to this vista behind us, Jerusalem,
 - 26:12 it evokes pain and pleasure.
 - 26:14 I know, inasmuch as it's spellbinding in a spiritual,
 - 26:18 good sense, I should say, probably I could find a better
 - 26:21 word, to hear Glick speak, similarly whenever I look at
 - 26:26 this vista in Jerusalem, it always has me transfixed.
 - 26:31 And that's really the story behind the story of the call,
 - 26:36 the return to go back to Eden.
 - 26:38 It's that getting drawn back to the garden place.
 - 26:43 And the temple that stood right over yonder was the place,
 - 26:47 if you will.
 - 26:48 Rather fascinating.
 - 26:50 The temple itself, as we observed in the series,
 - 26:53 is a reconstructed figurative picture of what was once Eden.
 - 26:58 It's a great story.
 - 27:00 Kirsten: That everyone is drawn to and will continue in
 - 27:02 that day when the Lord sits there, soon, back in the temple.
 - 27:06 Jeffrey: Yes, very soon. We're all drawn that way.
 - 27:09 And thank you for coming our way.
 - 27:12 And as you go, sha'alu shalom Yerushalayim.
 - 27:17 Kirsten: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
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