
Bonus Interviews, Part 1
Extended interviews with individuals appearing in this series: Doron Keidar from Cry for Zion, Dr. Seth Postell the Academic Dean of Israel College of the Bible in Netanya, and Guy Erlich the owner/director of Balm of Gilead farm.
Air dates: 2018-Dec-05, 2019-Dec-11
Production Code: 1820
Episode 9 of 10 in the series “Return to Eden”
Duration: 28:30
Year: 2018
Series code: DRTE
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Caption transcript for Return to Eden: “Bonus Interviews,” Part 1 (9/10)
- 00:01 David Hart: Did you know that preparations are presently being made for the third temple in Jerusalem? That and so much more today
 - 00:10 on "Zola Levitt Presents." ♪♪♪
 - 00:14 male announcer: "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God
 - 00:18 for Israel is, that they might be saved.
 - 00:22 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek:
 - 00:24 for the same Lord over all is rich unto all
 - 00:27 that call upon him."
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 - 00:50 David: We are so glad you have joined us today
 - 00:52 on "Zola Levitt Presents," I'm David Hart.
 - 00:54 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
 - 00:55 Jeffrey Seif: Jeffrey Seif.
 - 00:57 Kirsten: And the past two months you have been watching Jeff
 - 00:59 in the series, "Return to Eden."
 - 01:02 You finished up all the teaching, and is there any way
 - 01:05 to tie it all together today?
 - 01:07 Jeffrey: Well, because it's the story from Genesis to
 - 01:10 Revelation, it's a bit much for 30 seconds, but at the end of
 - 01:12 the day, we're looking at prophecy, beginning in Genesis
 - 01:16 with Eden, and seeing how it's fulfilled, manifest prophecies
 - 01:20 in the temple, and we're wanting to help people to see it.
 - 01:24 Speaking of which, our very own Chaim Malespin is gonna speak to
 - 01:28 Doron, an expert on the Temple Mount and security in
 - 01:32 and around the Temple Mount.
 - 01:34 You're gonna love him and you're gonna hear him now.
 - 01:37 ♪♪♪
 - 01:42 Chaim Malespin: Thank you so much for taking the time
 - 01:44 to be interviewed today.
 - 01:45 Tell us a little bit about yourself.
 - 01:47 Doron Keidar: I started to study the history
 - 01:48 of the Temple Mount from those who were educated in it,
 - 01:51 those who were leading movements on it.
 - 01:54 Studying military history because my background is
 - 01:56 in a combat unit, studying combat, and war, and how--
 - 02:01 so I can better prepare for future wars, et cetera.
 - 02:04 And when I learned about this interesting gentleman
 - 02:07 called Rabbi Shlomo Goren, he blew me away.
 - 02:10 Because for one, I realized I don't know much about this man
 - 02:14 and he's a real key pillar in the IDF, and as far
 - 02:18 as the Temple Mount is concerned, plus Hebron.
 - 02:22 He was a key player as far as encouraging the generals,
 - 02:25 telling Motta Gur, "You need to take the Temple Mount.
 - 02:29 You need to take Hebron."
 - 02:30 He was the fire behind these general decisions that say,
 - 02:34 "Okay, fine, let's do it," but I hadn't heard of him before.
 - 02:38 So, I studied up on Shlomo Goren,
 - 02:40 read his biography, studied his life,
 - 02:42 studied his "hashkafat olam" as we say, his worldview.
 - 02:46 Why was it important to him?
 - 02:48 Why was it important to restore specific
 - 02:51 Jewish prayer into combat?
 - 02:54 The prayer that we pray before we go into battle,
 - 02:56 that's Shlomo Goren.
 - 02:58 So, he did a lot of basically groundbreaking laying the
 - 03:04 foundations of the reborn Jewish state, both in diplomacy for the
 - 03:09 state when it comes to the specifics of the Temple Mount,
 - 03:12 Hebron, and the breathing life into the IDF
 - 03:16 from a religious aspect.
 - 03:18 Chaim: Yeah, so there's a growing interest in nations to
 - 03:21 come to Jerusalem and to come to the Temple Mount.
 - 03:25 Why, in your opinion, is this?
 - 03:27 Doron: Well, all the Temple Mount movements
 - 03:29 and organizations in Israel, every one of them verbatim
 - 03:33 say the same thing.
 - 03:35 Beit tefilah yikkarei, beit tefilah lechol ha'amim.
 - 03:38 It will be called a house of prayer for all nations.
 - 03:40 So, we believe in that.
 - 03:41 I believe in that, that the nations
 - 03:43 are gonna stream to Zion.
 - 03:45 They're gonna stream to God's holy house and that's going to
 - 03:48 be part of the restoration that God brings, not just to Israel,
 - 03:52 but to the world as a whole, because that's gonna be the glue
 - 03:55 in which God is going to breathe life through Israel
 - 03:58 and through--onwards to the nations.
 - 04:01 Chaim: Do you think that the rebuilding of the temple
 - 04:03 is a reconstruction of Eden that was lost?
 - 04:06 Doron: Absolutely.
 - 04:08 The Genesis of the Temple Mount
 - 04:10 starts with Adam and Eve.
 - 04:12 God takes the piece of earth, as we know, makes clay,
 - 04:16 breathes life into it, et cetera, et cetera.
 - 04:18 That's Adam, the first human being.
 - 04:20 He's created according to Jewish tradition from the very earth
 - 04:23 of the Temple Mount.
 - 04:25 Future then, you have also the Garden of Eden which is the
 - 04:28 place he's dwelling in in this heavenly place, as you will,
 - 04:31 Gan Eden, which is what we say.
 - 04:34 You're going to heaven.
 - 04:36 In Hebrew, you say Gan Eden, by the way.
 - 04:38 I know in Christian, English-speaking, you use
 - 04:41 a different term, heaven and Eden, right?
 - 04:45 But in Hebrew, you use the same term for both Eden and heaven.
 - 04:49 And so, the point is, in Jewish tradition, we believe this is
 - 04:53 where Adam was created out of the earth, we believe this is
 - 04:56 where the Garden of Eden was, and we also believe this
 - 05:00 is where heaven will meet earth.
 - 05:02 So, this is the very navel of the earth, the very place where
 - 05:05 heaven meets earth literally.
 - 05:08 Chaim: How were the temples a picture of heaven?
 - 05:12 Doron: Well, we know that, for example, that you have
 - 05:15 the Garden of Eden, and that in the Hebrew it's synonymous,
 - 05:18 Eden, heaven.
 - 05:20 And so, it was in Eden that God shows Abraham, 'kay,
 - 05:25 where Eden got taken up, as we know.
 - 05:28 It was in Eden that God says, "That is HaMakom," and this was
 - 05:32 the first mention actually of the location of God's future
 - 05:36 temple, and it's the location that God draws Abraham to start
 - 05:41 the restoration process of heaven meeting earth again,
 - 05:45 where heaven was on earth in Eden,
 - 05:47 which is on the Temple Mount.
 - 05:49 There's a lot of symbolism.
 - 05:51 And for example, when the prophets get a vision of heaven,
 - 05:55 Daniel, and Ezekiel, and all these, when they get an image of
 - 06:00 heaven--in fact, in our prayers, when we pray in replacement
 - 06:04 of the sacrificial system that we have, in order to keep
 - 06:07 the rehearsal of when the temple will be restored,
 - 06:12 when we pray the Amidah, why do we stand
 - 06:14 with two feet together?
 - 06:17 Because we're an image of the angels of what
 - 06:19 was seen in heaven.
 - 06:21 It says, "And they were as if on one leg."
 - 06:24 So, when we do the Amidah, for example, we stand
 - 06:27 on two together, as if one leg, to imitate the angels,
 - 06:30 'cause in this part of the prayer, we're basically
 - 06:33 in the presence of the Almighty, in the presence of Hashem.
 - 06:36 And so again, there's all through the prayers, the
 - 06:40 sacrifices, the garments, the service, everything is a picture
 - 06:43 of the heavenly temple, if you will, where God dwells.
 - 06:49 Chaim: Would you say that it's highly contested more
 - 06:52 for spiritual reasons than political reasons?
 - 06:54 Doron: Absolutely.
 - 06:56 When we have Jewish presence restored back to the bulls eye,
 - 06:59 Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and the Temple Mount at the very
 - 07:03 heart, it explodes because there's a spiritual conflict,
 - 07:06 of course, because the evil powers that be do not want
 - 07:10 God's kingdom, heaven, to meet earth.
 - 07:13 They don't want that.
 - 07:15 They don't want the Messianic kingdom.
 - 07:16 They want the chaos.
 - 07:18 ♪♪♪
 - 07:25 Kirsten: The holy mountain in Jerusalem will be contested
 - 07:28 until that day when Yeshua comes back to reign as King of kings
 - 07:32 and Lord of lords, hopefully soon.
 - 07:35 David: And our next guest, how does he fit in
 - 07:37 with this series?
 - 07:39 Jeffrey: Well, Dr. Postel, I read a book that he wrote that
 - 07:42 dealt with Eden, and Genesis, and the temple,
 - 07:46 and I thought it was fascinating.
 - 07:48 And part of what I'm doing is just bringing his book to life.
 - 07:51 Scholars like him write books and they're lost
 - 07:53 in libraries somewhere.
 - 07:55 I wanted the world to see it.
 - 07:57 I want you to see Seth Postel.
 - 07:59 That's why he's coming to you in a moment.
 - 08:00 Dr. Postel, I first met him, he is a faculty member and I am
 - 08:04 an adjunct faculty at Israel College of the Bible.
 - 08:08 Furthermore, I worked with Seth on a Bible translation project.
 - 08:12 Great scholar, great Jewish believer, great Israeli.
 - 08:16 Dr. Seth Postel coming to you right now.
 - 08:19 ♪♪♪
 - 08:24 Dr. Seth Postel: When I started to look at these
 - 08:26 parallels, and there are numerous parallels, it became
 - 08:29 very clear that just as God brought Adam into Eden,
 - 08:36 God brought Israel into the promised land.
 - 08:39 A correlation between the promised land and the land
 - 08:42 of Eden, interestingly enough.
 - 08:45 Why does God bring Abraham from the east, westward to this land,
 - 08:53 to the land of Israel?
 - 08:55 And I would argue it's--in a way, it is to restore the very
 - 09:00 things that were lost when Adam and Eve sinned.
 - 09:03 It is interesting, for instance, in the book of Ezekiel.
 - 09:08 Ezekiel describes the New Jerusalem, very much using
 - 09:14 language from the story of the Garden of Eden.
 - 09:16 And so, the river coming out from the temple to water--
 - 09:22 you know, water comes out from this new temple
 - 09:25 and there's all sorts of Edenic imagery.
 - 09:28 You've got the tree of life and the fruit, the healing of the
 - 09:31 nations, which draws a direct correlation between Eden
 - 09:35 and Jerusalem, and beyond that the promised land.
 - 09:38 Of course, you have the book of Revelation that makes a very
 - 09:41 close connection between the Jerusalem coming down
 - 09:44 from the heaven and the Garden of Eden.
 - 09:48 Of interest is if you look at the Garden of Eden in Genesis
 - 09:52 chapter 2, verses 10 through 14, the boundaries of Eden
 - 09:57 are described on the basis of rivers.
 - 10:01 Of rivers.
 - 10:02 And if you look at the rivers, you'll notice that these rivers
 - 10:05 are described from south to north.
 - 10:09 And what that does is it puts the land of Canaan right
 - 10:14 at the center of that matrix of rivers.
 - 10:18 Interestingly enough, how does God describe the boundaries of
 - 10:21 the promised land to Abraham in Genesis chapter 15, verse 18?
 - 10:25 He refers to a couple of those same rivers.
 - 10:29 And so, just as Adam was exiled from this land because of
 - 10:35 disobedience, God brings Abraham back into this land ultimately
 - 10:40 to restore blessing, blessing to Abraham, his descendants,
 - 10:45 and to all the families on the earth.
 - 10:47 Jeffrey: Some would look at a present-day map and say,
 - 10:50 "But the Tigris and Euphrates rivers as mentioned in Genesis
 - 10:53 are in Iraq."
 - 10:55 And Dr. Postel responds--
 - 10:58 Dr. Postel: But that would be the northern boundaries
 - 11:00 of those rivers.
 - 11:01 Keep in mind that there's a head river that goes out
 - 11:03 from the Garden to water the whole earth.
 - 11:07 And if you'll notice, there's other rivers that are tied
 - 11:09 to the land of Cush, which would be in the south.
 - 11:13 And so, what you have here is you've got the northernmost
 - 11:16 boundaries of where this river goes
 - 11:19 and the southernmost boundary of where these rivers go.
 - 11:21 In other words, if you look at the middle, the middle point
 - 11:26 between these two, the northern and southern place
 - 11:30 of these rivers, it puts us right in the promised land.
 - 11:34 Look at the way that the Bible begins.
 - 11:37 You've got this Garden. You've got the trees of life.
 - 11:41 There are no curses.
 - 11:43 We only have blessings, which is a major theme of the Torah,
 - 11:46 is God's purpose to bless.
 - 11:48 And then look at the end of the book of the New Testament,
 - 11:52 the book of Revelation.
 - 11:54 Once again, we have the trees of life.
 - 11:56 We have the removal of the curse.
 - 11:58 We've got Jerusalem, which is just like an Eden
 - 12:02 that now has become a city.
 - 12:05 And so, absolutely the biblical writers link
 - 12:09 the promised land with Eden.
 - 12:11 It's a very common theme.
 - 12:14 Jeffrey: Believers have long felt a certain allure
 - 12:18 to the holy land, and why is that?
 - 12:21 Well, Dr. Postel puts forth, and I do as well,
 - 12:25 that when we look at Genesis, when we look at Eden,
 - 12:30 we're looking at the land of Israel.
 - 12:33 That's where it was.
 - 12:35 People were kicked out, and then there's this draw to return,
 - 12:39 a draw that I feel and that you may very well feel.
 - 12:44 Let's hear more now from Dr. Postel.
 - 12:48 Dr. Postel: When we think about the Messianic hope,
 - 12:51 when we think about the hope of believers,
 - 12:55 typically the way that the hope is presented
 - 12:57 is when we die we will go to heaven, and that's true.
 - 13:00 Absent from the body is present with the Lord.
 - 13:03 That is true as it is, but interestingly enough, throughout
 - 13:07 the Scriptures the biblical hope is constantly presented,
 - 13:11 not as us leaving, but as his coming.
 - 13:14 We long for his return.
 - 13:17 And so, the biblical hope is rooted
 - 13:20 in the redemption of creation.
 - 13:22 The biblical hope is rooted in the removal of the curse.
 - 13:26 The biblical hope is rooted in the seed of the woman,
 - 13:31 the seed of David, ruling and reigning from
 - 13:35 a specific geographical region.
 - 13:39 The world will never be right until a son of Adam,
 - 13:43 a son of David is seated in Jerusalem.
 - 13:49 That is the plan of God. That is biblical hope.
 - 13:52 And so, I would simply argue that to not see this narrative
 - 13:55 thread is to really undermine God's purposes for the coming of
 - 14:00 the Messiah and how that's tied back to his original purposes
 - 14:04 with Adam and Eve.
 - 14:06 ♪♪♪
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 - 14:20 In this ten-program series, Dr. Jeffrey Seif uncovers how
 - 14:24 the Lord bridged the relationship gap caused
 - 14:27 by mankind's sin in the Garden of Eden
 - 14:29 by creating a special relationship with a people
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 - 15:19 David: These interviews have been so good, fascinating,
 - 15:22 and we at this table even have learned so much.
 - 15:25 We hope you have too.
 - 15:27 Kirsten: So much. We grew up in the church.
 - 15:28 David and I grew up in the church.
 - 15:30 If you've been watching the program you know that.
 - 15:31 And honestly, I have never been taught or never heard
 - 15:35 of the parallels between Eden and the temple.
 - 15:39 I love learning something new.
 - 15:42 And Jeff Seif, what do you think of what Dr. Postel
 - 15:44 just taught us?
 - 15:45 Jeffrey: Well, it comes from Jewish scholarship
 - 15:47 and Messianic Jewish scholarship.
 - 15:49 And with you, I think that life is all about lifelong learning.
 - 15:53 It's not like you get a doctorate, you're some PhD,
 - 15:55 and you know everything.
 - 15:56 We all should be learners, and Dr. Postel is a great teacher.
 - 16:00 Something to learn on the other side of the brain,
 - 16:02 not just information but inspiration,
 - 16:05 Guy Erlich is manufacturing incense,
 - 16:08 an Israeli, a Jew, in Israel, in anticipation
 - 16:11 of a coming temple to be rebuilt there.
 - 16:14 Let's hear from Guy.
 - 16:21 Guy Erlich: I'm Guy Erlich,
 - 16:23 and this is the Balm of Gilead Farm.
 - 16:24 We are standing at the hill of frankincense,
 - 16:26 part of my plantation.
 - 16:28 Over here, the vast majority the trees are boswellia sacra,
 - 16:32 the true frankincense, the frankincense of the incense
 - 16:35 of the early temple, the frankincense of the present
 - 16:37 of the three Magis, and the vast majority of the plants here
 - 16:43 are frankincense trees.
 - 16:46 The frankincense comes from the resin which come out
 - 16:49 from the bark.
 - 16:52 There is a special method of making a tip,
 - 16:54 a cut at the branch, and then we let the resin go out and dry.
 - 17:00 And after about, between one week to ten days,
 - 17:03 we collect the dried resin.
 - 17:05 It's called tears because most of them have the shape of the
 - 17:07 tear, and this is the main raw material from the frankincense.
 - 17:14 Jeffrey: This is Guy's Garden of Eden where he comes daily
 - 17:18 to inspect and tenderly care for his rare collection of plants.
 - 17:24 Actually, he started it all for medicinal purposes,
 - 17:27 but it seems there were bigger plans for his life,
 - 17:30 a bigger reason for it all.
 - 17:33 Guy: Along the years, a lot of temple fans
 - 17:35 are coming to visit me.
 - 17:37 I become a magnet for temple fans.
 - 17:40 In the beginning, I found it quite annoying.
 - 17:44 I started my venture in order to be an economic boost
 - 17:49 to my family, not to serve the third temple.
 - 17:54 And I can tell you that the first time that a lot of temple
 - 17:58 fans are coming to meet me, the people of the temple Institute,
 - 18:03 Rabbi Ariel was here several times even with his family,
 - 18:11 Yehuda Glick, Yehuda Etzion, a lot of them.
 - 18:16 When Rabbi Ariel was here for the first time, I told him,
 - 18:19 "Rabbi Ariel, when the temple will come from the sky,
 - 18:22 I'll be more than happy to supply the incense
 - 18:24 of the holy temple, but forget it,
 - 18:26 I'm not going to build you a temple."
 - 18:28 He was very upset with me.
 - 18:30 He told me that I don't know what my destination is.
 - 18:34 I started with my plants with a desire to make
 - 18:37 a medication out of them.
 - 18:39 And this is still my main goal, but along the years I understood
 - 18:43 that my plants have some other purposes.
 - 18:47 And if they will be able to serve the third temple,
 - 18:51 I'll be more than happy to be the one that would bring it.
 - 18:55 So, I promised Rabbi Ariel that I'll do my best to have
 - 19:04 as many ingredients of the holy temple as I can.
 - 19:07 There are eight known ingredients and another
 - 19:13 three unknown ingredients.
 - 19:16 To find out what are the unknown ingredients and to try to have
 - 19:20 the best quality of ingredients, so when there will be a temple,
 - 19:24 we will have the resin.
 - 19:25 We will not have to wait for this.
 - 19:29 And about two months ago, as far as I understand it,
 - 19:34 I become officially-- I officially became
 - 19:37 the incense provider for the third temple.
 - 19:43 The frankincense was used in different places.
 - 19:46 The main place was as part of the eleven ingredients
 - 19:49 of the incense of the holy temple.
 - 19:53 It was burned on the golden altar.
 - 19:57 It was also put as pieces of resin on the table of bread.
 - 20:03 There was a family of Kohanim who were in charge
 - 20:07 for making the incense for the holy temple.
 - 20:09 And their office was called the Frankincense Office.
 - 20:15 Jeffrey: This amazing garden collection is located adjacent
 - 20:18 to the northern part of the Dead Sea, the lowest spot
 - 20:22 on planet earth.
 - 20:24 Guy has called his site the Balm of Gilead Farm,
 - 20:28 named after another plant he considers one
 - 20:31 of his personal treasures.
 - 20:34 Guy: This is the balm of Gilead. Cedronella canariensis.
 - 20:38 The main plant, it is identified as Cedronella canariensis.
 - 20:41 This originally came from Saudi Arabia.
 - 20:47 We are in the spring time.
 - 20:48 All the winter, it was naked without leaves.
 - 20:53 It was quite miserable and great stress, but now it's starting
 - 20:56 to be hot and its leaves are coming back.
 - 21:01 So, this is a waking up balm of Gilead.
 - 21:06 I'm using different parts of the plant.
 - 21:07 I'm using the resin, I'm using the fruit,
 - 21:09 and I'm using the leaves.
 - 21:11 Each one of them have a different chemical composition
 - 21:15 and different smell, and I do believe
 - 21:18 in the composition of all of them.
 - 21:22 First of all, it was one of the most important medication
 - 21:25 of ancient time.
 - 21:28 Then it was the most important and most expensive perfume
 - 21:32 in the Roman Empire.
 - 21:34 The plant was so important that it served as
 - 21:36 the first ingredient of the incense of the holy temple.
 - 21:41 For the incense, they used the dry branches.
 - 21:43 This is what Professor Zohar Amar is claiming.
 - 21:47 The period of the second temple, the balm of Gilead was the sole
 - 21:50 component, the only component of the anointing oil
 - 21:53 of the kings of Israel.
 - 21:55 There is a very interesting claim saying that the gold
 - 21:59 from the three magis' gift was not real gold.
 - 22:06 It was the balm of Gilead, that was more precious than gold,
 - 22:10 and that was the oil that was needed to anoint the new king.
 - 22:18 This myrrh was the second ingredient of the incense
 - 22:21 of the holy temple.
 - 22:23 This myrrh was also the second gift of the three magis.
 - 22:28 It was a very important plant in ancient time as a medication,
 - 22:33 spirituality, and it got a lot of use in ancient time.
 - 22:37 And even nowadays, we have a lot of medical potential
 - 22:40 lying in this.
 - 22:42 Jeffrey: Strangely enough, when Guy first started his farm,
 - 22:45 he knew nothing about agriculture.
 - 22:48 We asked him to explain why he pursued his dream in one
 - 22:51 of the most difficult places in the world to keep things green.
 - 22:56 Guy: I guess out of curiosity, the persistence,
 - 23:02 and maybe a guiding hand from above, I don't know.
 - 23:09 I am not a religious Jew, but I find myself a great believer.
 - 23:15 My faith is very strong.
 - 23:17 And I can tell you that I find the strength to keep on going
 - 23:22 with my mission due to the understanding that there is
 - 23:28 a meaningful thing with my plants.
 - 23:31 It can be to the direction of the third temple.
 - 23:34 It can be to the direction of medicine.
 - 23:36 Both of them are sacred for me.
 - 23:39 Jeffrey: Guy proudly displays the fruit of his labor.
 - 23:43 Like gold nuggets in his head, this is truly his treasure.
 - 23:49 Guy: This is the resin of the true frankincense,
 - 23:51 the boswellia sacra.
 - 23:53 It comes from the cutting we made on the branches
 - 23:55 of the boswellia sacra.
 - 23:58 Over here, I've got a mixture of frankincense, myrrh,
 - 24:01 and some dried balm of Gilead branches.
 - 24:03 I'm making a resin.
 - 24:05 I'm crushing it into very, very small pieces.
 - 24:09 In Hebrew, this is called mugmar.
 - 24:11 There is a very, very nice sentence in Hebrew.
 - 24:15 It says to bless the mugmar.
 - 24:17 So, I'm going to take some mugmar in my hand and I want
 - 24:21 to bless you good people with health, and happiness,
 - 24:25 and prosperity, and fulfillness.
 - 24:28 This is how they burn the incense in the temple,
 - 24:33 not on direct fire, on coal.
 - 24:35 Sometimes they put some salt in order to make the coal
 - 24:38 a bit cooler.
 - 24:41 But this is how they burn the incense, chopped resin
 - 24:45 put on coal.
 - 24:47 ♪♪♪
 - 24:52 Kirsten: We hope you're enjoying these interviews
 - 24:54 as much as we are.
 - 24:56 Personally, I love learning something new and I never knew,
 - 25:01 never heard before that the balm of Gilead is a gold resin
 - 25:05 and the oil was used to anoint the kings of Israel.
 - 25:10 That's huge to me.
 - 25:12 I mean, we sing, "There is a balm in Gilead,"
 - 25:15 I mean, this old hymn.
 - 25:17 David: That's what I remember from then.
 - 25:18 Kirsten: Right?
 - 25:20 And I don't know--we didn't know that it's a soothing balm,
 - 25:21 and it might have been, but the oil, and all this is
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