Caption transcript for In The Footsteps of The Rabbi From Tarsus: “Reconciliation with the Corinthians, and Roman Correspondence” (9/12)

• 00:02 WITH DR. JEFFERY SEIF AND SANDRA LEVITT
• 00:59 A HEARTY SHALOM TO ALL OF YOU.
• 01:02 JEFFERY SEIF HERE WITH MY FRIEND SANDRA LEVITT.
• 01:04 SHALOM.
• 01:05 WELCOME BACK TO THE RABBI,
• 01:07 IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE RABBI FROM TARSUS.
• 01:09 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAUL.
• 01:11 WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT 2ND CORINTHIANS TODAY.
• 01:13 I AM SO TAKEN BACK BY PAUL'S DEMEANOR IN THE 1 CORINTHIANS, WHERE HE IS JUST IN THEIR FACE.
• 01:20 AND THEN HE SEEMS TO BE SETTLING DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN 2ND CORINTHIANS.
• 01:23 YES HE'S MUCH MORE CONFRONTATIONAL IN 1ST CORINTHIANS
• 01:26 AND MUCH MORE CONGENIAL IN 2ND CORINTHIANS.
• 01:29 WHY IS IT THAT WAY?
• 01:31 WELL, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE IN MINISTRY
• 01:32 YOU HAVE TO CONFRONT STUFF.
• 01:35 NOW I KNOW TODAY WE JUST WANT MINISTERS TO BE PROFESSIONAL,
• 01:39 CONGENIAL SORTS, NICE AND SWEET,
• 01:42 BUT THAT'S NOT THE NATURE OF CHRISTIAN EXPERIENCE.
• 01:46 SOMETIMES SIN NEEDS TO BE CONFRONTED.
• 01:49 THAT'S RIGHT, IT DOES. AND WHEN HE WROTE 1ST CORINTHIANS
• 01:51 THERE WAS TROUBLE IN RIVER CITY. RIGHT.
• 01:53 HE WENT AFTER IT.
• 01:54 HE HEARS FROM TITUS THAT THEY REPENTED OF THEIR SINS,
• 01:57 SO NOW THERE'S A DIFFERENT TONE.
• 01:59 NOW IT'S THANK YOU NOW LET'S GET ON DOWN THE ROAD.
• 02:01 YOU'RE DOING BETTER, STRENGTHEN UP, GET ON DOWN THE ROAD.
• 02:04 THAT IS GOOD.
• 02:05 YEAH, WHEN HE DISCIPLINES THEM
• 02:07 IT'S NOT LIKE HE WANTED TO HURT THEM, OH, NO.
• 02:08 HE JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THEM.
• 02:09 RIGHT AND HOW MUCH FALSE DOCTRINE DO YOU THINK THEY'D HEARD?
• 02:12 MY GOODNESS, HERE WAS CORINTH,
• 02:14 THE TRADE ROUTE OF THE TRADE ROUTES IN GREECE
• 02:16 AND HERE THEY MUST HAVE HEARD ZILLIONS OF...
• 02:18 THEY HAD BAD DOCTRINE, THEY HAD BAD BEHAVIOR TOO
• 02:21 AND YOU KNOW THEY NEEDED FIXED.
• 02:22 AND THEY NEEDED TO BE STRONG.
• 02:24 SOMETIMES YOU CAN BE REAL DISCOURAGED,
• 02:25 "OH, THINGS NEED FIXED OR BROKEN,"
• 02:27 BUT YOU KNOW GOD HEALS BROKEN STUFF.
• 02:29 THAT'S EVIDENCED IN THE CORINTHIAN CORRESPONDENCES. HE DOES.
• 02:32 LET'S GO TO JEFF ON LOCATION AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT CORINTHIANS.
• 02:45 1ST CORINTHIANS WAS A BLISTERING CRITIQUE.
• 02:48 AND 2ND CORINTHIANS WAS MILD BY COMPARISON.
• 02:52 AND WHY WOULDN'T IT BE?
• 02:54 WHEN PAUL WROTE 1ST CORINTHIANS HE WAS CHAGRINED, HE WAS PRESSED IN FACT.
• 02:59 HE'D HEARD THAT THE CHURCH WAS DIVIDED.
• 03:01 HIS AUTHORITY WAS QUESTIONED BY MANY IN THE CONGREGATION.
• 03:05 BAD DOCTRINE WAS CIRCULATING ROUND ABOUT.
• 03:09 GOODNESS PAUL SPENT A LONG TIME IN CORINTH AND HE THOUGHT IT ALL WAS FOR NOT,
• 03:14 BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE THINGS WERE GOING TO UNRAVEL.
• 03:16 SO PAUL WAS UNRAVELING.
• 03:18 YOU CAN JUST FEEL HIM ESCALATING UP WHEN HE WROTE THEM THE 1ST LETTER.
• 03:22 WHEN HE WRITES THE 2ND ONE THE TONE IS SO MARKEDLY DIFFERENT, IT'S MODERATE BY COMPARISON.
• 03:27 AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE PAUL WHEN HE WRITES
• 03:29 KNOWS THAT CHURCH IS MINDED TO MAKE RIGHT WHAT WAS BROKEN.
• 03:33 IN 2ND CORINTHIANS, CHAPTER 7, PAUL NOTES IN VERSE 5
• 03:43 BUT THEN IN VERSE 6,
• 03:48 BRINGING GOOD NEWS.
• 03:50 GOOD NEWS THAT THE CORINTHIANS WERE MINDED TO RECONNECT WITH PAUL.
• 03:55 AND SO HERE PAUL SAYS THAT HE'S LEARNED OF THEIR
• 04:02 WITH THE NET RESULT,
• 04:06 HERE PAUL'S A HAPPY CAMPER.
• 04:08 HIS SPIRITS ARE LIFTED.
• 04:09 HIS CONFIDENCE IS RISEN.
• 04:12 AND THEN HE PROCEEDS TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED PREVIOUSLY.
• 04:18 PREVIOUSLY PAUL, THE APOSTLE TO THE GENTILES,
• 04:21 HAD TO ENCOURAGE THE CHURCH IN CORINTH TO HELP THE BRETHREN IN JUDEA.
• 04:26 PAUL WAS INTERESTED IN REACHING BEYOND JUDEA,
• 04:29 BUT HE WANTED THE NON-JEWISH CONGREGATIONS TO REACH BACK TO JUDEA.
• 04:33 NOW ISN'T THAT SOMETHING THAT'S LACKING TODAY.
• 04:35 AND THEN IN CHAPTERS 8 AND 9, HE PROCEEDS TO ADVOCATE FOR AN OFFERING.
• 04:46 YEAH, PAUL SAID IN CHAPTER 9 OF 2ND CORINTHIANS,
• 04:56 HEY I DON'T NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MONEY, YOU KNOW IT'S ALL, NOT EVEN NECESSARY.
• 05:00 HE GOES ON TO SAY:
• 05:07 INTERESTING.
• 05:08 HERE IN CORINTH THIS IS ACHAIA.
• 05:11 MACEDONIA IS IN THE MAINLAND.
• 05:13 THERE WAS A LOT OF SPIRITED COMPETITION BETWEEN THE AKAIANS AND THE MACEDONIANS.
• 05:18 PAUL SAYS LISTEN RELATIVE TO THIS OFFERING,
• 05:20 YOU KNOW, I WAS BOASTING TO MACEDONIANS THAT YOU GUYS ARE GETTING AFTER IT.
• 05:24 SEE HE'S IN PART PLAYING ONE AGAINST THE OTHER,
• 05:27 BECAUSE THE MACEDONIANS GAVE A GOOD OFFERING AND HE WANT'S THEM TO DO LIKEWISE.
• 05:31 AN OFFERING FOR WHAT?
• 05:33 INTERESTINGLY IN CHAPTERS 8 AND 9 OF 2ND CORINTHIANS ON BETTER FOOTING AS HE IS,
• 05:39 PAUL IS LEANING ON THEM TO BE GRACIOUS FINANCIALLY.
• 05:42 BUT WHAT'S HE LEANING ON THEM TO DO?
• 05:45 DOES HE NEED A NEW CAR TO TRAVEL ABOUT IN HIS APOSTOLIC JOURNEYS?
• 05:48 DOES HE WANNA BUY A BOAT?
• 05:50 DOES 1ST BAPTIST CHURCH OF CORINTH NEED A NEW EDUCATION BUILDING?
• 05:53 NO, HE'S RAISING MONEY BECAUSE HE WANTS TO HELP SUPPORT
• 05:58 THE WORK OF THE LORD AMONGST THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 06:02 AS I SAID A MOMENT AGO, I LOVE IT.
• 06:04 THE APOSTLE OF THE GENTILES STILL HAD A HEART OF THE JEWS.
• 06:07 WOULD THAT SPIRIT PREVAIL IN THE CHURCH TODAY,
• 06:11 I'D CERTAINLY BE A HAPPY CAMPER.
• 06:13 AND IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE CONGRUENT WITH WHAT THIS APOSTLE WAS ALL ABOUT.
• 06:16 BUT DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
• 06:18 OPEN YOUR BIBLES PLEASE TO 2ND CORINTHIANS, CHAPTER 9 AND LET'S LOOK AT HIS ARGUMENT.
• 06:25 HE SAYS IN VERSE 6:
• 06:37 THIS IS WHERE YOU GET THE OLD, "WHAT YOU SOW IS WHAT YOU REAP."
• 06:40 "YOU GIVE A LITTLE, YOU GET A LITTLE, YOU GIVE A LOT AND YOU GET A LOT."
• 06:43 THIS CONVERSATION IS PLAYED OUT AGAINST THE BACKDROP OF TRYING TO RAISE MISSIONS MONEY
• 06:49 TO GET THE CORINTHIANS TO HELP THE BRETHREN IN JUDEA.
• 06:53 HE SAYS IN VERSE 7:
• 07:02 PAUL HERE IS GOING AFTER THE FACT, HE'S KIND OF HARKING BACK TO A TEXT IN MOSES,
• 07:07 WHERE PEOPLE ARE ASKED TO GIVE WILLING FROM THE HEART,
• 07:09 NOT OUT OF A SENSE OF COMPULSION AND THEY INDEED DID JUST THAT.
• 07:13 HERE PAUL IN LIKE MANNER ONCE THE BELIEVERS HERE CORINTH IN THE SHADOW OF THE TEMPLE.
• 07:19 YOU CAN SEE THE PILLARS TO THE FORMER TEMPLE TO APOLLO BEHIND ME.
• 07:24 AND HERE IN CORINTH YOU CAN SEE VESTIGES, FOOTPRINTS OF THINGS GREEK AND OF THINGS JEWISH.
• 07:31 IT WAS A SIZABLE POPULATION HERE OF JEWS INTERESTINGLY.
• 07:34 SOME 200,000 SETTLED IN CORINTH PROPER IN PAUL DAYS.
• 07:39 ALMOST MATCHING THE NUMBER OF NON-JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 07:41 THIS WAS A COSMOPOLITAN CITY, IT WAS A HELLENISTIC CITY.
• 07:45 THE JEWISH FOLKS THAT WERE HERE, WERE NOT OF JUDEAN EXTRACT THEMSELVES,
• 07:49 BUT THEY BELONGED TO THE DIASPORIC, TO THE GALOOT.
• 07:52 PAUL WANTED THE JEWS HERE TO BE CONNECTED TO THE JEWS IN ISRAEL.
• 07:57 HE WANTED THE NON-JEWS HERE THAT HAVE COME TO FAITH IN THE MESSIAH OF ISRAEL
• 08:01 TO BE CONNECTED TO THE JEWS IN ISRAEL TO HELP THEM
• 08:04 AS THEY FIND THEMSELVES PRESSED AMIDST THE TURBULENCE OF TRYING TIMES.
• 08:08 PAUL SAYS, LET'S RISE UP AND SHOW FIDELITY.
• 08:11 LET'S SHOW THAT WE'RE NOT WANTING TO BREAK AWAY FROM THE JEWISH PEOPLE
• 08:14 AND LET'S SHOW THAT TANGIBLY WITH AN OFFERING AND SO THEY DID.
• 08:18 PAUL WAS SO PLEASED BY ALL OF THIS.
• 08:21 IN THE ROMANS CORRESPONDENCE HE EVEN HARKS TO IT.
• 08:25 IF YOU LOOK IN ROMANS CHAPTER 15:
• 08:32 HE'S WRITING TO THE ROMANS AND HE'S EXPRESSING HIS TRAVEL PLANS TO GO TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 08:35 HE SAYS IN VERSE 26:
• 08:41 HE WRITES AFTER THE FACT AND SAYS, YOU KNOW THOSE FOLKS IN MACEDONIA AND ACHAIA,
• 08:44 THEY REALLY ROSE TO THE OCCASION, NOW COME ON ROMANS WE WHAT YOU TO DO IT MUCH THE SAME.
• 09:00 AND HE GOES ON TO ENCOURAGE THEM IN LIKE MANNER.
• 09:02 TO BE OF SERVICE TO THE SAINTS IN JERUSALEM.
• 09:07 SO WHAT HAVE WE HERE?
• 09:08 1ST CORINTHIANS PAUL'S GOING AFTER THE CORINTHIANS.
• 09:11 WHY IS THAT?
• 09:12 BECAUSE THE THING IS SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL.
• 09:14 PAUL WRITES 2ND CORINTHIANS.
• 09:16 HE REALIZES HE GETS CONTROL.
• 09:18 THINGS SETTLE DOWN.
• 09:19 THINGS CALM DOWN, PAUL REASSERTS HIS AUTHORITY
• 09:22 AND HE EXHORTS THEM TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR PLANS TO LOVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 09:27 I KNOW I'VE SAID THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN THIS TEACHING SEGMENT,
• 09:31 BUT I'M OF A THE BELIEF, IF IT'S NOT WORTH SAYING 100 TIMES, IT'S NOT WORTH SAYING ONCE.
• 09:36 WOULD THAT THE CHURCH TODAY CARED FOR THE JEWS
• 09:38 AS MUCH AS THE APOSTLE TO THE GENTILES URGED THEM TO.
• 09:42 HERE WHEN HE WROTE 2ND CORINTHIANS.
• 09:55 FOR INSIGHTFUL PERSPECTIVES OF ISRAEL AND BIBLE PROPHECY
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• 10:08 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, "THE INSTITUTE OF JEWISH CHRISTIAN STUDIES" INCLUDES:
• 10:13 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CDs, AND MAIL IN TESTS.
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• 10:28 10 TO 20,000 PEOPLE COME TO ROME PER DAY.
• 10:32 THERE'S ROOM FOR YOU HERE, ISN'T THERE SANDRA?
• 10:35 THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO SEE.
• 10:36 IT'S ANOTHER PLACE WHERE WE CAN SEE OUR BIBLE COME ALIVE.
• 10:40 THAT'S RIGHT, CAUSE WHEN PAUL WAS ALIVE HE CAME HERE.
• 10:42 WE VISIT HERE,
• 10:44 GREECE, AND THE HOLY LAND ITSELF, ISRAEL PROPER.
• 10:47 YOU NEED TO BE WITH US.
• 10:49 WE'D LOVE TO SHOW YOU GREECE, ISRAEL, AND ROME.
• 10:51 JOIN US FOR A TRIP OF A LIFETIME.
• 10:57 IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE ROME AND I THINK ABOUT PAUL.
• 11:00 PAUL WAS NEVER IN ROME AND YET
• 11:03 HE WRITES A LETTER TO THE ROMANS.
• 11:04 YES WELL ROME WAS OUTSIDE OF JERUSALEM
• 11:08 FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE ROME WOULD BE THE PLACE TO BE. RIGHT.
• 11:11 AND THE LORD HAD ESTABLISHED A COMMUNITY THERE
• 11:14 AND PAUL WAS BURDENED FOR THEM.
• 11:16 HE WAS BURDENED FOR THEM.
• 11:18 AND YOU KNOW I THINK ROMANS
• 11:19 IS ONE OF THE MOST BELOVED OF HIS WRITINGS
• 11:22 IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.
• 11:23 I THINK PEOPLE LOVED ROMANS.
• 11:25 WHAT IT SAYS TO THEM AND HOW IT RELATES TO THEM?
• 11:27 IT'S ONE OF THE, REALLY A WONDERFUL BOOK.
• 11:29 I'M GLAD THEY LOVE IT.
• 11:30 I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT PARTICULARLY.
• 11:31 NO, I THINK ITS, YEAH.
• 11:32 BECAUSE THERE'S THIS LITTLE ISSUE IN ROMANS 9, 10, & 11
• 11:35 ABOUT LOVING ISRAEL AND THE JEWS THAT'S RIGHT.
• 11:38 AND MY GOD THAT'S NOVEL TEACHING FOR A FEW PEOPLE. OH,
• 11:40 MAYBE THAT'S WHY I LOVE IT SO MUCH.
• 11:41 YEAH, BECAUSE IT RESONATES WITH YOU,
• 11:43 BUT I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR ROMANS OUT
• 11:45 AND HEAR THE RABBI FROM TARSUS WHEN HE STRESSES WHAT'S IMPORTANT THEREIN.
• 11:49 ABSOLUTELY.
• 11:51 IN FACT, WE'RE GONNA GO TO YOU AND YOUR TEACHING IN ROME.
• 11:53 AND YOU'RE TEACHING ON ROMANS.
• 11:55 HERE'S JEFF.
• 12:07 'TIS THE GLORY THAT WAS ROME.
• 12:08 I'M COMING TO YOU FROM THE BELLY OF THE ROMAN FORUM.
• 12:12 IT'S EASY TO BE HERE AND IT'S LIKE GOING BACK INTO A TIME MACHINE
• 12:16 AND JOURNEYING BACK TO ROME WHEN IT WAS SPLENDID.
• 12:20 ROME AT IT'S ZENITH AT IT'S HIGH WATER MARK
• 12:24 WHERE ROME HAS LEFT AN INDELIBLE MARK ON THE PAGES OF HISTORY.
• 12:29 ROME, WE HAVE TRIBUTES TO CAESARS AND SENATES.
• 12:33 THERE'S ARCHES THAT BESPEAK PREVIOUS TRIUMPHS AND NOW IT'S ALL FADED.
• 12:38 BUT THERE'S ONE STORY FROM ROME THAT CONTINUES TO SHINE.
• 12:43 IT ILLUMINATES, IT IMPACTS AND THAT IS A BOOK THAT WAS WRITTEN TO THE ROMANS, NOT FROM ROME.
• 12:50 ACTUALLY WHEN PAUL PENNED ROMANS, HE'D NEVER BEEN HERE.
• 12:53 APPARENTLY FOLK WERE HERE IN THE DAYS OF PENTECOST IN ACTS CHAPTER 2
• 12:58 AND THEY CAME BACK TO THE CITY.
• 13:00 AND THE NET RESULT IS THAT A MOVEMENT GOT STARTED OFF HERE
• 13:03 AND PAUL PUT PEN TO PAPER TO WRITE THEM.
• 13:05 HE STARTS OFF IN HIS OPENING TO HIS ROMANS EPISTLE,
• 13:09 SAYING HOW THINGS WERE SO VERY DEBAUCHED IN ROME, SO VERY LICENTIOUS.
• 13:15 PEOPLE WERE GIVEN TO EGREGIOUS SEXUAL SINS.
• 13:18 IT SO MUCH REMINDS ME OF THE WORLD TODAY IN SO MANY RESPECTS.
• 13:21 AND PAUL WROTE TO THE CHURCH AT ROME AND HE SAID:
• 13:28 WOMEN AND MEN OF JEWISH EXTRACT HAVE SINNED.
• 13:30 INDIVIDUALS OF NON-JEWISH EXTRACT HAVE SINNED
• 13:33 AND AS A RESULT THEY'VE BEEN BIT BY THE VIPOR.
• 13:36 SIN HAS MADE IT'S ENTRANCE ONTO THE STAGE OF THE HUMAN DRAMA.
• 13:40 AND THE NET RESULT IS THAT THE RACE IS DEFILED, IT'S VITIATED.
• 13:44 SO MUCH FOR THE BAD NEWS.
• 13:46 THE GOOD NEWS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT:
• 13:55 RATHER DESPITE THE WAGES OF SIN THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT THERE'S A REMEDY,
• 13:59 THERE'S A MEDICINAL POTION IN ORDER TO HEAL WHAT AILS
• 14:03 AND THAT IS THROUGH THE BLOOD OF JESUS ACCORDING TO PAUL.
• 14:06 AND PAUL WROTE TO CHRISTIANS AT ROME TO ENCOURAGE THEM IN FAITH.
• 14:11 NOT ONLY IN FAITH, APPARENTLY THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS BETWEEN
• 14:15 CHRISTIANS IN ROME OF NON-JEWISH EXTRACT AND PEOPLE OF JEWISH EXTRACT.
• 14:20 AND THE QUESTION IS HOW CAN WE GET THESE PEOPLE ON THE SAME PAGE?
• 14:24 WHAT HAD HAPPENED IN ROME IN ADVANCE OF PAUL'S WRITING HIS EPISTLE WAS
• 14:28 THE JEWS THAT LIVED IN THE CITY OF ROME WERE KICKED OUT.
• 14:32 LUKE TELLS US IN ACTS 18:2 THAT:
• 14:40 WHEN PAUL WROTE ROMANS, HOWEVER, NERO'S IN POWER
• 14:43 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NERO DID, IS HE ALLOWED JEWS TO RETURN.
• 14:47 SO WE HAD A UNIQUE SITUATION HERE IN ROME AND THAT IS THAT THE CHURCH,
• 14:52 PAUL'S CHURCHES WERE TYPICALLY CONSTITUTED PRINCIPALLY
• 14:55 BY WOMEN AND MEN OF JEWISH EXTRACT, WITH SMATTERINGS OF NON-JEWS.
• 14:59 BUT HERE'S THE CHURCH THAT DEVELOPED ALMOST ENTIRELY A NON-JEWISH CULTURE
• 15:03 GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE WERE NO JEWS IN ROME.
• 15:05 BUT THEN WHEN JEWS STARTED MAKING THEIR WAY BACK TO ROME,
• 15:08 THEN THEY COME BACK INTO A CHURCH THAT HAD KIND OF SOLIDIFIED,
• 15:12 INSTITUTIONALIZED ALONG NON-JEWISH ALLIANCE
• 15:16 WITH THE NET RESULT, THERE WAS SOME ETHNIC TENSION.
• 15:18 ARGUABLY PAUL HEARD ABOUT IT AND WANTED TO ADDRESS IT.
• 15:22 AND SO, THOUGH HE WASN'T AN APOSTLE TO THE CHURCH AT ROME,
• 15:25 HE KIND OF EMPLOYED HIS APOSTOLIC SAVY AND AUTHORIZATION
• 15:29 AND WROTE THEM AND ENCOURAGED THEM TO MAKE PEACE ONE WITH ANOTHER,
• 15:33 THAT IS JEWS AND NON-JEWS.
• 15:35 HE SPOKE ABOUT THE STRONG AND THE WEAK AND PROBABLY HE'S REFERENCING JEWS AND NON-JEWS,
• 15:40 LEARNING TO COME TO TERMS AND NOT UNDULY OFFEND EACH OTHER.
• 15:43 IT'S INTERESTING TOO IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY HEART OF THE LETTER,
• 15:46 PAUL THERE UNDERSCORES IN ROMANS 9, 10, & 11 FOR THE GENTILE CHURCHES
• 15:51 THAT THE GENTILE CHRISTIANS RATHER,
• 15:53 THAT THEY MUST NEEDS REMINDED THAT GOD HAS A PLAN FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 15:56 HE HAS AN ENDURING LOVE FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE THAT APPARENTLY WAS DIMINISHING SOMEWHAT.
• 16:01 SO PAUL WROTE THEM AND ENCOURAGED THEM
• 16:03 TO ENCOURAGE THE CHURCH TO LOVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
• 16:07 TO CONNECT WITH THERE JEWISH BRETHREN THAT WERE MAKING THEIR WAY BACK INTO THE CITY.
• 16:20 WHEN PAUL WROTE HIS LETTER TO THE ROMANS YOU CAN SENSE THE PASSION.
• 16:26 THE LETTER WAS EFFUSIVE, IT'S DRIPPING WITH FEELING.
• 16:29 PAUL SAYS:
• 16:36 HE'S SO VERY GRACIOUS.
• 16:38 HE SAYS:
• 16:43 PAUL THE APOSTLE TO THE GENTILES HAD A LOVE FOR HIS JEWISH BRETHREN.
• 16:50 IN FACT THE EPISTLE EVEN BEINGS, HE SAYS IN CHAPTER 1
• 16:55 THAT THE GOSPEL IS:
• 17:01 MY QUESTION TO YOU AS I CONSIDER ROMANS HERE FROM ROME.
• 17:05 AS I CONSIDER THE DOCUMENT I ASK, PRAY TELL WHERE IS THAT SPIRIT TODAY?
• 17:11 WHERE IS THE LOVE FOR ISRAEL, THE JEWISH PEOPLE?
• 17:14 WHERE'S THE PASSION?
• 17:15 WHERE'S THE COMMITMENT?
• 17:16 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S SADLY LACKING IN THE CHURCH.
• 17:20 WHAT WE GET FROM THE CHURCH IS INFECTIVE AGAINST THE JEWS, NOT SUPPORT OF THE JEWS.
• 17:26 AND MIGHT I SAY THAT WERE PAUL HERE TODAY, HE WOULD NOT BE A HAPPY CAMPER.
• 17:33 HIS LOVE FOR THE JEWS IS NOT JUST REFLECTED THROUGH LANGUAGE,
• 17:38 BUT THE FELLOW WHO IS GIVEN TO ACTION, NOT JUST VERBIAGE,
• 17:42 FINISHES HIS DOCUMENT TO THE ROMANS REMINDING THEM THAT IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ROMANS,
• 17:48 INDIVIDUALS OF NON-JEWISH EXTRACT TO BE KINDLY SUPPORTIVE FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE
• 17:54 IN A WAY THAT'S MATERIAL, NOT JUST SPIRITUAL.
• 17:57 THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS AGAIN, THE DOCUMENT CLOSES.
• 18:00 HE REMINDS THAT THE CHURCH IN MACEDONIA AND ACHAIA THEY'VE MARSHALED RESOURCES,
• 18:06 FINANCIAL IN ORDER TO SEND TO THE BELIEVERS IN JERUSALEM.
• 18:10 PAUL WHEN HE WRITES TO THE ROMANS HERE, BACK THEN SAYS MUCH THE SAME.
• 18:15 IT'S SEEMS TO ME THAT THE CHURCH HAS GONE HAS IT'S VARIOUS TRADITIONS,
• 18:19 BUT WE DO WELL TO OPEN UP THE PRIMARY LITERATURE.
• 18:23 AND THEREIN WHEN WE READ PAUL'S WRITINGS WE CAN SENSE HIS HEART.
• 18:28 BETTER IT IS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE GET IN TOUCH WITH WHAT HE HAD TO SAY
• 18:32 OVER AND AGAINST WHAT THE TRADITIONS OF THE DAY MIGHT BE.
• 18:35 AND SO FOR THAT REASON I ADVOCATE THAT WE DO WELL
• 18:39 TO WALK IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE RABBI FROM TARSUS.
• 18:43 TO READ HIS WORD AND TO FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLE,
• 18:47 BECAUSE THAT IS TRULY WHERE WE'D LEARN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE CHRISTIAN.
• 19:08 ROMANS CHAPTER 10, VERSE 1 SAYS,
• 19:15 IT HAS BEEN THE MINISTRY'S STEADFAST
• 19:18 HEAD BANNER FOR 30 YEARS, JEFF.
• 19:20 YEAH, BUT NOT THE CHURCHES.
• 19:21 WHEN YOU SAY THE MINISTRY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT US.
• 19:23 I'M TALKING ABOUT US.
• 19:24 WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CHURCH'S LOVE OF ISRAEL?
• 19:27 WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO IT?
• 19:28 WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU OUT THERE IN TV LAND
• 19:29 HEARD A TEACHER EVER TALK ABOUT,
• 19:31 "MY HEARTS DESIRE AND PRAYER TO GOD FOR ISRAEL
• 19:34 IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED."
• 19:36 THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INVENTORY OUT THERE IN THE WORLD
• 19:39 IF I MIGHT SAY SO MYSELF. AND WHAT REALLY, WHAT HAPPENED?
• 19:40 TRULY, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CHURCHES LOVE OF ISRAEL?
• 19:43 WELL, IT SEEMS TO ME,
• 19:44 THAT THERE WERE LESS JEWS COMING IN
• 19:46 AND MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE ADVOCATING FOR CHRISTIAN FAITH IN PRACTICE
• 19:48 DON'T HAVE JEWISH MOORINGS AND AFFECTION.
• 19:51 THERE WERE NON-JEWS AND IT BECAME UN-JEWISH
• 19:53 AND TRAGICALLY CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE
• 19:55 EVEN BECAME ANTI-JEWISH.
• 19:57 I AM NOT A HAPPY CAMPER, DON'T GET ME STARTED,
• 20:00 LET'S CHANGE THE SUBJECT.
• 20:01 NO, I WANNA TALK ABOUT IT
• 20:02 BECAUSE IF WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT HOW CAN WE MAKE IT BETTER?
• 20:05 IT'S UP TO US TO MAKE IT BETTER.
• 20:07 WELL THEN LET'S BEGIN US, BY LOOKING AT WHAT PAUL SAID ABOUT TO MAKE IT BETTER.
• 20:11 AND LET'S TAKE HIM TO MEAN WHAT HE SAYS AND SAYS WHAT HE MEANS.
• 20:16 DR. FISCHER BY THE WAY, HELPS US I KNOW THOSE OF YOU
• 20:20 THAT HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING OUR PROGRAM THIS SERIES HAVE ENCOUNTERED RABBI FISCHER.
• 20:23 AND HE'S BRILLIANT.
• 20:25 HE, LIKE SANDRA AND MYSELF, DRAWS FROM JEWISH WORLDS AND CHRISTIAN WORLDS,
• 20:30 JEWISH LITERATURE AND CHRISTIAN LITERATURE
• 20:33 AND HE HELPS BRING IT ALL TOGETHER.
• 20:35 AND HERE IS:
• 20:39 DR. FISCHER WE'RE LOOKING AT CORINTHIANS,
• 20:42 2ND CORINTHIANS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEHAVIOR.
• 20:44 AND CORINTH AT THAT TIME WAS JUST A NOT A GOOD PLACE BE.
• 20:48 ALMOST LIKE THE LAS VEGAS OF THAT TYPE OF THE WORLD.
• 20:52 IT WAS JUST HORRIBLE.
• 20:52 IT WAS A REAL CESSPOOL OF STUFF.
• 20:55 YEAH, HUMANLY, FLESHY.
• 20:57 EVERYTHING THAT WAS AVAILABLE WAS AVAILABLE.
• 20:59 EVERYTHING THAT WAS AVAILABLE WAS AVAILABLE
• 21:01 AND PEOPLE GOT INVOLVED IN JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS AVAILABLE.
• 21:04 AND SO IT'S AN INTERESTING PLACE BUT IT WAS ALSO A...
• 21:09 IT'S STILL ONE OF THE OLD GREEKS, OLD GREEK CITIES,
• 21:12 SO THERE WAS STILL A LOT OF LEARNING THAT WAS GOING ON IN THERE TOO.
• 21:14 SO SOME OF THE.. AND EARLY ON, NOT IN 2ND CORINTHIANS, BUT IN 1ST CORINTHIANS
• 21:18 YOU GET SOME OF THE REFLECTION OF THE GREEK SPEAK,
• 21:21 THE GREAT RHETORIC THAT CAUTERIZED SOME OF THESE PLACES.
• 21:25 SO THERE WAS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE, A LOT OF LEARNING THERE AS WELL,
• 21:28 NOT JUST GREEK, BUT TO OFFER ALSO JEWISH LEARNING
• 21:30 WAS SIGNIFICANT THERE.
• 21:33 WHEN THE RABBI, RAV SHAUL SHOWS UP IN CORINTH
• 21:36 HE ENDS UP NOT ONLY IN THE SYNAGOGUE,
• 21:40 BUT PRETTY SOON THE HEAD OF THE SYNAGOGUE
• 21:42 BECOMES CRISPUS BECOMES A FOLLOWER, RIGHT, CRISPUS
• 21:45 THEN HE'S LECTURING NEXT DOOR FOR 18 MONTHS RIGHT
• 21:48 AND SETS UP A SCHOOL OUTSIDE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SYNAGOGUE.
• 21:52 SO THIS IS STILL A JEWISH CENTER AS WELL.
• 21:54 IT'S INTERESTING AS TO HOW JEWISH THIS WHOLE ENTERPRISE IS,
• 21:58 BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHO YOU'RE READING CONCERNING THE CORINTHIANS
• 22:01 THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AS MANY AS 4 LETTERS TO THE CORINTHIANS.
• 22:05 WE ONLY GET 2, BUT IF YOU COUNT THEM ALL UP
• 22:08 HE MIGHT HAVE WRITTEN TO THEM ON 4 SEPARATE OCCASIONS.
• 22:11 AGAIN VERY MUCH LIKE A RABBI.
• 22:13 THERE'S A TRADITION IN JUDAISM THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A CIRCUMSTANCE
• 22:17 OR A SITUATION THAT MAY NOT BE DIRECTLY ADDRESSED BY THE TORAH
• 22:21 OR IS MORE MODERN THAN THE SITUATION THE TORAH ADDRESS,
• 22:26 YOU WRITE TO A... OR YOU SPEAK TO A RABBI,
• 22:29 YOU GET A RESPONSE FROM THE RABBI IN THE JEWISH TRADITION CALLED "RESPONSOM LITERATURE."
• 22:34 AND REALLY THE LETTERS OF THIS RABBI WERE VERY MUCH WITHIN THAT TRADITION OF
• 22:38 "RESPONSUM LITERATURE" OR "RESPONSA LITERATURE."
• 22:41 SO TO HAVE HIM RESPONDING 4 DIFFERENT TIMES TO THIS CREW IN CORINTH IS VERY MUCH IN KEEPING,
• 22:48 JUST AS MUCH AS IN WHEN HE WAS IN ROME,
• 22:51 THE WHOLE SITUATION IN ROME THERE WAS A...
• 22:54 THERE TOO A STRONG CONNECTION WITH THE SYNAGOGUE.
• 22:57 THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARGUE,
• 22:58 AND I THINK ARGUE VERY EFFECTIVELY THAT THE
• 23:01 CONGREGATION OF BELIEVERS IN ROME
• 23:04 WAS REALLY PART OF THE LARGER JEWISH SYNAGOGUE FRAMEWORK.
• 23:08 THAT'S HOW CLOSELY CONNECTED THE COMMUNITY REMAINED.
• 23:11 THE MESSIANIC COMMUNITY WITH THE LARGER JEWISH COMMUNITY,
• 23:14 SO FOR HIM TO RESPOND 1ST IN ROME,
• 23:17 ALSO RESPOND IN CORINTH WITH THE SAME KIND OF LITERATURE,
• 23:21 HERE'S A SITUATION THAT DEMANDED A RESPONSE OR THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY ASKED FOR A RESPONSE.
• 23:26 ONE THING THAT NON-JEWISH
• 23:29 COMMENTATORS HAVE PICKED UP PARTICULARLY IN THE CORINTHIAN CORRESPONDENCE
• 23:33 IS WHEN THE RABBI SAYS, NOW CONCERNING,
• 23:36 NOW CONCERNING, RIGHT.
• 23:36 HE IS CLEARLY INDICATING
• 23:39 HE'S NOW ADDRESSING A QUESTION THAT WAS BEEN ADDRESSED TO HIM.
• 23:42 HE'S NOW RESPONDING, IT'S THE RABBINIC RESPONSIVE.
• 23:45 KINDA AND IT'S EITHER DOCTRINE
• 23:47 OR IT'S A QUESTION THEY MAY HAVE THAT'S NOT DOCTRINE
• 23:49 AND YET HE TAKES THE TIME TO RESPOND.
• 23:51 AND I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT PAUL.
• 23:53 IT REALLY DOES.
• 23:54 THANK YOU.
• 23:54 YOU'RE WELCOME.
• 24:01 MUSIC
• 25:12 IT'S MY DESIRE WHEN YOU WATCH ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS THAT YOU BE INFORMED.
• 25:17 BUT MORE THAN INFORMED, MIGHT I ADD THAT WE WISH FOR YOU TO BE TRANSFORMED.
• 25:23 I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS INHERENT POWER IN THE GOSPEL
• 25:27 TO FIX WHAT'S BROKEN IN HUMAN EXPERIENCE.
• 25:31 AND I DON'T WANNA GET AWAY FROM PAUL WITHOUT GOING TO THE CALL
• 25:36 WHERE HE SAYS IN ROMANS CHAPTER 10, VERSE 9,
• 25:53 WITHIN THE SOUND OF MY VOICE THERE MAY WELL BE INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED TO BE SAVED
• 25:59 FROM YOUR SINS, FROM ABYSMAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
• 26:03 AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW AS PAUL WANTED THEM TO KNOW,
• 26:07 THAT THE SAME LORD IS LORD OF ALL AND HE BESTOWS HIS RICHES UPON ALL WHO CALL UPON HIM.
• 26:13 DOESN'T HE SANDRA?
• 26:14 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL INVITATION, JEFF.
• 26:16 I COULDN'T SAY IT ANY BETTER THAN THAT.
• 26:19 I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE SAID.
• 26:21 CALL UPON HIS NAME, I AM A SINNER, SAVE ME, LORD.
• 26:26 IT'S ETERNAL SALVATION, IT'S ETERNAL LIFE.
• 26:28 WE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
• 26:30 WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE LOCATION.
• 26:32 WHERE DO YOU WANNA BE AND THAT'S THE QUESTION?
• 26:34 WHERE DO YOU WANNA BE?
• 26:35 NEXT WEEK WE LOOK AT PHILEMON,
• 26:37 WE LOOK AT COLOSSIANS, AND EPHESIANS.
• 26:39 STAY TUNED.
• 26:40 AND AS YOU GO.
• 26:41 SHA 'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM.
• 26:43 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.