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The Spy
Twelve men are sent to investigate Canaan. Only Joshua and Caleb return with hopeful accounts while the other ten report negatively.
Air dates: 2023-Aug-09
Production Code: 2325
Duration: 28:30
Episode 2 of 8 in the series “Joshua (2023)”
Year: 2023
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Caption transcript for Joshua (2023): “The Spy” (2/8)
- 00:01 Joshua: I pray you do not die here in the desert
- 00:04 as all the others who have questioned the Lord.
- 00:07 Do not long for the land of the past as others do.
- 00:10 Egypt is behind us, the promise is before us,
- 00:13 long for the land of your children.
- 00:15 male: Only two of the twelve spies were faithful.
- 00:18 Find out more on Joshua: More than a Conqueror,
- 00:20 today on "Our Jewish Roots."
- 00:24 ♪♪♪
- 00:34 ♪♪♪
- 00:44 ♪♪♪
- 00:54 ♪♪♪
- 00:59 David Hart: Shalom friends and thank you
- 01:00 for joining us today, I am David Hart.
- 01:02 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
- 01:03 Joshua Colson: I'm Joshua. Caleb Colson: And I'm Caleb.
- 01:05 [speaking Hebrew]
- 01:06 Welcome my friends.
- 01:08 Joshua Colson: This episode-- this is the one our namesake,
- 01:11 Joshua and Caleb.
- 01:12 The two spies with the good report.
- 01:14 When everybody else saw giants, and they said it was impossible,
- 01:17 we were like, "No, I think we can do this."
- 01:20 Kirsten: And they really did see giants.
- 01:23 I mean we kind of have fun with that like, ooh,
- 01:25 Goliath was a giant-- like this is legit.
- 01:27 David: And I just want to say,
- 01:29 we both grew up in the church.
- 01:30 My dad was a pastor, and I don't remember ever hearing the name
- 01:35 Nephilim, or giants really talked about much in the Bible.
- 01:38 Caleb: It's a Hebrew Word, giant is translated in English,
- 01:40 but its Nephilim.
- 01:41 These are the hybrid spawn of--
- 01:43 perverted, deny Elohim, angelic beings that came down
- 01:46 and mated with the daughters of men and
- 01:48 created this monstrosity trying to cut off the Messianic line.
- 01:52 It was a perversion that God sent them into
- 01:54 and said, "Wipe them out."
- 01:56 You know, we have got to get rid of the giant spawn and Joshua
- 01:59 and Caleb had no problem.
- 02:01 It's like, yeah, we can take those giants, but the other
- 02:02 people are like they're so big, we can't do that.
- 02:04 Kirsten: Right, and people give God a bad rap in this as
- 02:07 like, "Oh my gosh, doesn't God love people?
- 02:09 Like why wipe out-- that's such a horrible thing."
- 02:12 Well, it is horrible if the genetic DNA of humanity
- 02:15 is being wiped out.
- 02:17 That's worth going in and taking the land and wiping it out.
- 02:20 Joshua Colson: Exactly, God didn't want the genetic
- 02:22 disposition to be in the blood, but he also didn't want this sin
- 02:25 disposition to be in the blood.
- 02:26 He wanted that wiped out so that that sin would not pollute the
- 02:29 bloodline of Messiah and he actually gave them
- 02:32 a good period of time.
- 02:33 He gave-- He told Abraham, "I've given them 400 years.
- 02:36 400 years to the Canaanites to do what was right."
- 02:37 And after 400 years they still didn't do it.
- 02:39 Caleb: That's right.
- 02:41 David: This story comes to life now
- 02:42 in our dramatic reenactment.
- 02:43 Let's go there now.
- 02:48 Joshua: Despite the reports of naysayers.
- 02:50 Caleb and I had seen with our own eyes, the rich,
- 02:53 bountiful land of Canaan.
- 02:56 The Lord's anger kindles against those who've questioned.
- 03:00 Those who murmur of giants and walled cities
- 03:04 in our Promised Land.
- 03:06 My efforts to convince them remain a daunting task,
- 03:09 even within the confines of my own tent.
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- 03:23 Joshua: Thank you for your help.
- 03:24 Caleb will oversee the remainder.
- 03:28 There is a murmur in the camp, again.
- 03:32 They would like to stone me.
- 03:35 male: I think that's a bit extreme.
- 03:38 Joshua: Is it not enough that he delivered us from the hands
- 03:40 of the pharaoh.
- 03:42 That he parted the Red Sea.
- 03:43 That we prevailed against the Amalekites.
- 03:48 [sighs]
- 03:51 Enormous vines, wheat, barley, fig trees, pomegranates,
- 03:55 it's all there just waiting for us.
- 03:58 And as the Lord told Moses, while we were still in Egypt,
- 04:01 "The land flows with milk and honey."
- 04:05 male: I can understand their concern.
- 04:07 Joshua: No. No, the reports are misleading.
- 04:12 For 40 days, Caleb and I witnessed
- 04:14 the very same things that they did.
- 04:17 Yes, we saw the walled cities.
- 04:18 And yes, we saw the strength of the Anakim and the Canaanites.
- 04:23 And all of the rest.
- 04:25 But the arm of the Lord is so much stronger.
- 04:30 We will devour them like bread possess the land.
- 04:37 male: But what about the giants?
- 04:41 Joshua: Listen to me.
- 04:44 I pray you do not die here in the desert as all the others
- 04:47 who have questioned the Lord.
- 04:49 Do not long for the land of the past as others do.
- 04:53 Egypt is behind us, the promise is before us, long for the land
- 04:57 of your children.
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- 05:05 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: The land of milk and honey was ever so close
- 05:08 for the children of Israel.
- 05:10 But despite the favorable reports of Joshua and Caleb,
- 05:13 there were those who questioned the decision
- 05:16 to possess the land.
- 05:17 We came here to the valley of Eschol or Mamre,
- 05:21 just south of Jerusalem,
- 05:22 to walk upon one of the very sites that Joshua and Caleb
- 05:26 first beheld in their mission as spies in the land of Canaan.
- 05:33 It's known as the land of
- 05:35 [speaking Hebrew]
- 05:37 in Hebrew the land of milk and honey.
- 05:40 Of course, there's more than just milk and honey--
- 05:43 all kinds of fruits.
- 05:45 I think that the milk and honey language was popularized because
- 05:49 if there's milk, there's animals that are producing it, and if
- 05:52 animals are producing it, the land is verdant, it's green.
- 05:56 And if there's honey it means there's bees,
- 05:58 there's pollination, there's flowers.
- 06:01 It speaks of a land that's alive.
- 06:04 With milk, with honey, with grape, pomegranate,
- 06:07 fig, and other fruits of the earth as well.
- 06:12 I look at these fruits of the earth as soda machines, you know
- 06:15 it's a hot day and you just grab some of this and you drink,
- 06:20 and it is so very delightful.
- 06:23 If you can just think of a primitive person, we're told
- 06:26 Adam and Eve were in a garden.
- 06:29 And the fruit was there for the picking.
- 06:31 Sin made its entrance on the stage of the drama.
- 06:34 They were kicked out and told they were going to eat out a
- 06:37 living, they were going to eek it out with the sweat
- 06:40 of their brow.
- 06:41 Here you're walking down the street and you're picking the
- 06:43 fruits and you're getting the delights.
- 06:48 It's no wonder that people would compete
- 06:51 for this part of the world
- 06:53 [speaking Hebrew]
- 06:54 here at the southwestern part of the fertile crescent.
- 06:58 You might recall as Bene Israel
- 07:01 made their way out of Egypt and finally to a place
- 07:03 Kadesh Barnea -- that Joshua, well Moses actually,
- 07:07 dispatched spies, Joshua was one,
- 07:09 and they came to the land, and they came here, Mamre.
- 07:13 Actually, they explored the width, the heighth, and they
- 07:16 came back with the fruits of the land.
- 07:20 And, of course, the fruits were exotic to people that were slave
- 07:24 stock that didn't know these kind of luxuries,
- 07:26 and they're told that these big fruits are here.
- 07:30 They're also told something else,
- 07:32 and that is there's trouble in River City.
- 07:36 Not only were the fruits big, but so were the people
- 07:39 that consumed them.
- 07:42 I want to get to the report, and I'll get to that in a minute,
- 07:44 and it's important by the way, because the people turned back.
- 07:48 And the fact that they turned back from the challenge, that
- 07:53 negated their being able to get the benefits of the real estate.
- 07:58 And I wonder, if you'll just permit an application, could it
- 08:01 be that God has all kinds of fruits and blessings for you.
- 08:06 Not just for you, but in you, to be produced out of you.
- 08:10 I mentioned that, because in the New Testament context,
- 08:13 we're told to bear fruit.
- 08:14 We're construed as an effect-- the earth and God pours his
- 08:18 Ruach HaKodesh into our Earth
- 08:20 and there's an outgrowth as a result of that we water
- 08:25 the seed of faith that's planted and then it grows
- 08:28 into something and bears fruit.
- 08:30 Well, if you go into the Old Testament, there's the land,
- 08:33 there's different words for land:
- 08:35 there's eretz which is land,
- 08:36 there's aphar which is dust,
- 08:37 there's adamah speaking of the soil.
- 08:41 In fact, Adam, man, Adam came from Adamah from the soil.
- 08:46 But other things come from the soil as well,
- 08:48 other forms of life.
- 08:50 There's the land of promise, the Promised Land,
- 08:53 and it bore special fruits.
- 08:56 Are there people that bear fruit?
- 08:57 I mean there's a fruitful existence if we have God
- 09:00 in our life and the question is: are you
- 09:02 bearing and cultivating fruit?
- 09:04 It's a reasonable question.
- 09:06 We're going to look how we can be more than a conqueror
- 09:08 and learn to bear fruit and more.
- 09:11 But before we get to that we have to go through the valley of
- 09:15 despair and commenting on those that got close, they got to it,
- 09:21 but they never got into it.
- 09:24 People say, "How long did it take the children of Israel to
- 09:25 get to Canaan?"
- 09:27 People say 40 years-- no, it took them 40 years
- 09:30 to get into it.
- 09:31 Actually, they were there at the second year,
- 09:34 they left Mizraim, Egypt, they went to Sinai,
- 09:37 they grouped there, built the mishkan,
- 09:39 the more portable worship facility, and they went up north
- 09:42 to the southern border, they sent dispatches in to do what
- 09:47 was supposed to be a reconnaissance mission.
- 09:50 They went in there for reconnaissance
- 09:52 to gather information.
- 09:54 But what was supposed to be a reconnaissance mission, turned
- 09:58 into a feasibility study.
- 10:00 It wasn't supposed to be that.
- 10:03 But subsequent to that the whole thing spiraled out of control,
- 10:08 and so all there was in front of them was a promise of a better
- 10:11 existence, but it's a life they never, ever entered.
- 10:16 They just died en route.
- 10:19 We'll consider the genesis of the problem in the heart of man.
- 10:24 God wants us to be more than a conqueror.
- 10:26 He wants us to be a conqueror, not the conquered.
- 10:29 He wants us to be a victor, not a victim.
- 10:32 He wants us to be the head and not the tail.
- 10:35 It doesn't always work out that way.
- 10:39 It's been said that a wise person learns from their
- 10:41 mistakes, well in this case, let us learn from somebody else's.
- 10:46 As we look more deeply into the story of Joshua and the spies
- 10:50 and learn about being more than a conqueror.
- 10:54 ♪♪♪
- 11:03 Joshua Colson: Jeff gets me so amped up in these points
- 11:05 because he's so right, it's what's in a man's heart that
- 11:09 determines his actions.
- 11:11 Too often in life, we put ourselves in environments that
- 11:14 go against what we believe in completely and we say it's not
- 11:16 going to affect us.
- 11:18 But look at the Israelites: they had been in Egypt too long.
- 11:21 They saw God come in with the ten plagues, rescue them out,
- 11:25 all of this amazing stuff didn't matter in the moment, because
- 11:29 when the ten spies came back with a bad report.
- 11:32 Instead of choosing to listen to the good report, they chose to
- 11:35 listen to what was bad and evil and not trust God.
- 11:38 And in fact, they were going to kill Moses and Aaron,
- 11:41 and stone Joshua and Caleb, and God literally jumped in,
- 11:44 and he flipped the script on them.
- 11:45 Caleb: It's sad but true, they were ready to stone them
- 11:48 all and God intervenes, and then God's like,
- 11:51 "I'm going to wipe them all out.
- 11:52 Moses, stand back and let me take care of them."
- 11:54 But Moses, "Please Lord, don't wipe them out.
- 11:57 For your namesake, don't wipe them out."
- 12:00 And God intervenes, he's like, "Okay, I won't wipe them all
- 12:04 out, but all the adults, the parents 20 years old and over,
- 12:08 they can't go into the Promised Land.
- 12:10 They're going to wander for 40 years in the wilderness
- 12:13 and only their children will go into the land of promise.
- 12:16 And it's sad that Joshua and Caleb, they are the oldest
- 12:19 that end up going.
- 12:21 They are the elders, the oldest of all the twelve tribes that
- 12:23 end up going into the Promised Land and fulfilling
- 12:26 the promises of God."
- 12:29 Joshua Colson: Rebellion is a big deal with God.
- 12:31 It may not seem like a big deal to you, but he takes it very
- 12:33 seriously, and I'll get to that in a second.
- 12:35 But you look at what happens with the Israelites and the next
- 12:38 few steps they take are marked with rebellion.
- 12:40 The second he says they're not going to go into the land,
- 12:42 what do they do?
- 12:44 They do what anybody says whenever you say,
- 12:45 "There's a bo--" they rush the border, right?
- 12:48 And what happens, God has them smitten and written out.
- 12:51 And so, then they get a Levite going on right there.
- 12:53 Caleb: It's Korah with his rebellion, yeah.
- 12:55 Joshua Colson: And so, what happens next?
- 12:57 They're wiped out.
- 12:58 And so again, they're like, "Well we got to get rid of
- 12:59 Moses, we got to get rid of Aaron,
- 13:01 this is this guy's fault."
- 13:02 What happens? Plagues.
- 13:04 You know, so every time this happens, God puts his hand out
- 13:07 and says-- and goes, "No."
- 13:08 Why?
- 13:09 Because rebellion-- original sin-- when Lucifer looked and
- 13:11 said, "No, I don't need God, look at me."
- 13:13 God put a stop to it and that's why he will not allow rebellion
- 13:17 to continue on.
- 13:18 Caleb: And this time of wandering in the wilderness is
- 13:20 very important, it's very symbolic.
- 13:22 The 40 years.
- 13:24 We know that the wilderness represents this time of trial
- 13:27 and testing and lack and your time in the wilderness will
- 13:31 either produce fruit in you or it will produce death.
- 13:34 And you see that Moses himself went into the wilderness
- 13:37 for 40 years and God trained him as a shepherd to shepherd
- 13:43 an entire nation of people.
- 13:45 Yeshua went into the wilderness for 40 days and he was tempted
- 13:48 by Satan himself.
- 13:50 He overcame every temptation, and that fruit was produced, and
- 13:54 he became worthy to go out and start preaching the news of the
- 13:59 kingdom of heaven is at hand.
- 14:01 You see Paul himself; he went into the wilderness for over
- 14:03 three years after he came to know Yeshua because it was
- 14:06 that time that he had to seek God and hear from
- 14:10 the Holy Spirit himself.
- 14:11 To get all that legalism and the law out of him, till he was
- 14:13 ready to go preach the grace that came
- 14:17 by the blood of Yeshua.
- 14:18 So, we want to be faithful during that time of testing,
- 14:23 during that time of trial.
- 14:25 You may be in that time of the wilderness right now
- 14:27 in your life, and you're like, "How long God?"
- 14:28 You know, you're ready to get out.
- 14:30 But be faithful during that time, because you will reach the
- 14:34 Promised Land eventually.
- 14:36 Joshua Colson: And remember that reaching the Promised Land
- 14:37 is not the only story, it's who you become in that process.
- 14:39 And that's why you have to stick to it.
- 14:41 Let's go back to Jeff and see what happens next in the story.
- 14:45 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Earlier we saw pomegranate and grape, but
- 14:48 there's all kinds of fruits here in the holy land.
- 14:51 Figs, by the way, as in these, are noteworthy.
- 14:54 They're referred to in the Bible in the older testament, security
- 14:57 is everyone dwelling under his fig tree.
- 15:00 Interestingly and similarly, in the newer testament in the
- 15:04 Johannine gospel chapter two, Jesus speaks of a man and says,
- 15:08 "I saw you under the fig tree."
- 15:11 Again, the land is so much associated with fruits.
- 15:15 But the story here, with these fruits is associated
- 15:19 with a bad news story.
- 15:22 And I don't like to tell it, but it's in the book.
- 15:25 And there's a window here into pathology, into being toxic,
- 15:31 learning how things can go horribly wrong in life.
- 15:37 I want to pick up in the book of Bemidbar
- 15:39 in the wilderness, we know it as Numbers.
- 15:41 In the 13th chapter we're told that the spies
- 15:46 who had come into this area.
- 15:49 [speaking Hebrew]
- 15:51 to do a reconnaissance mission.
- 15:54 That is to say they're supposed to gather information.
- 15:57 If an army is coming this way, they need to know where there's
- 16:00 orchards, water supply, major cities, populations, etcetera.
- 16:05 They need a general idea of where they're going.
- 16:08 They came here to do reconnaissance,
- 16:11 but they did more than that.
- 16:13 They came here on a reconnaissance mission;
- 16:16 they returned with a feasibility study.
- 16:20 They told Moshe Rabbeinu, Moses, and others,
- 16:23 "Listen, yeah the land is this and that, but we can't do it.
- 16:28 Those people are just way too big."
- 16:31 It's a bad story, in chapter 13, verse 31 we're told of a
- 16:36 [speaking Hebrew]
- 16:41 the men that went up, that is the spies, came up and said, and
- 16:45 I quote,
- 16:46 [speaking Hebrew]
- 16:50 "We are not able to go up against this people."
- 16:55 We can't do it.
- 16:59 They go on to say,
- 17:00 [speaking Hebrew]
- 17:03 "Because they are stronger than we."
- 17:09 They feared.
- 17:10 These were people who not long before were slave stock
- 17:13 in the land of Egypt.
- 17:15 And they left Egypt.
- 17:17 God was their soldier-- the waters parted, they walked
- 17:20 through, it wasn't, as a result, their agency.
- 17:23 They were just swept up in the circumstances
- 17:25 beyond their control.
- 17:27 But now they're facing a situation where they have to
- 17:29 bear arms for a specific purpose, but they
- 17:34 just wince away from doing so.
- 17:37 They are fearful, they lack confidence.
- 17:40 Confides, with faith.
- 17:43 They go on to report that the people are just so big.
- 17:48 And if that's not bad enough, they're skilled in war and we're
- 17:51 novices and if that's not bad enough, they have military
- 17:55 advantage behind ramparts, behind walls and walled cities.
- 18:00 It didn't look good, and when they put it all together,
- 18:03 they said, "It can't be done."
- 18:07 We're told by the way in 32, they go on to say,
- 18:10 [speaking Hebrew]
- 18:14 he goes on to say, "They spread an evil report."
- 18:21 An evil report.
- 18:22 The rabbis, I should say, in looking at that, they go beyond
- 18:26 an evil report and say that they invented a lie.
- 18:33 They invented a lie.
- 18:35 And when you live with that lie
- 18:40 it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
- 18:43 They go on to exaggerate and say, "Listen, they're so big
- 18:46 and we're like grasshoppers."
- 18:48 They just-- they spiral out of control.
- 18:50 We can't do it.
- 18:52 Well, the last I checked, they couldn't get out of Egypt
- 18:54 either, but guess what: there was heaven's help
- 18:57 for life's vexing problems.
- 19:00 Because God who calls you, can lead you successfully
- 19:03 into the future, and he did just that then.
- 19:05 But oh my did they forget.
- 19:08 Now I don't want to talk about them, I want to talk about you,
- 19:11 and I want to talk about me.
- 19:12 That is to say because these aren't the only ones that turn
- 19:16 away from challenges.
- 19:19 And when you turn away from it, by the way, you can get so close
- 19:22 to the Promised Land, but never get into it.
- 19:25 And I wonder, how many people are watching this and hearing me
- 19:30 that keep going around the same mountain, that is to say, you
- 19:33 kind of believe in God, you have religious conviction, but it
- 19:35 seems that success in life is 13 inches away and you only have a
- 19:39 12-inch reach-- for some reason, you just can't quite get to it.
- 19:44 Fear prompts people to turn back, I know that I live that.
- 19:49 It's one the reasons why it took me till 30 to get married,
- 19:51 because I was afraid to ask, I was afraid I'd get rejected.
- 19:55 I was afraid that they would say no, so I lived alone.
- 19:58 In other words, fear became a prison.
- 20:01 It was the same thing with school, you know, I wound up
- 20:03 becoming a college professor, but interestingly it took me
- 20:05 till 26 or so to get into college.
- 20:08 Why is that: because I did so poorly in high school.
- 20:10 Why is that: because of fear.
- 20:13 I had to learn to say no to fear and yes to a good God
- 20:17 and a good future.
- 20:18 And I know that from firsthand experience that if you hold
- 20:22 tight to fear, it ruins your life.
- 20:25 We could be so much further along in life.
- 20:28 I have 30 years under my belt as a college professor, among other
- 20:32 things, worked a lot of young people and I would tell them
- 20:35 all, "Shoot for the moon, lift up your eyes, dream big.
- 20:39 Shoot for the moon, and even if you miss the mark, you'll land
- 20:43 somewhere among the stars."
- 20:45 And be so much better off in life than had you dared
- 20:48 not to dream in the first place.
- 20:51 I believe in dream stuff, especially if I believe that
- 20:55 we're a redeemed people.
- 20:57 That if Jesus lives in us, and the Holy Spirit guides us,
- 21:02 then we are people with a future.
- 21:05 Would that we dared to dream.
- 21:07 Would that we didn't turn back, but that we moved forward.
- 21:11 In the process of so doing, we learned what it is to be more
- 21:16 than a conqueror.
- 21:20 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: For the Israeli Defense Forces, the
- 21:22 saying "more than conquerors" is more than a slogan.
- 21:27 My good friend, Chaim Malespin, who serves with the
- 21:30 Israeli Defense Forces is going to give us a window into
- 21:33 how the Israeli army is taught to go forth
- 21:36 and slay the giants.
- 21:39 Sarge, when I look in the Bible, these spies are dispatched to go
- 21:43 into the land, and those people are so big,
- 21:45 their fortifications are so high.
- 21:47 They're afraid, there are some that have confidence.
- 21:51 What do you they teach you in the Israeli Defense Forces about
- 21:54 looking beyond the current malaise and believing
- 21:57 for a successful outcome?
- 21:59 Chaim Malespin: Well, I'll give you a story my commander
- 22:01 gave me.
- 22:02 Commanding officer, he calls everyone in one day, and he
- 22:04 says, "Hey, you guys, you have any complaints?"
- 22:06 One of the soldiers came and he said our thermal vision, we have
- 22:09 this little refrigerator--
- 22:10 you know thermal vision so you can see a heat imprint.
- 22:12 And he said, "Sometimes I can't see the heat imprint properly,
- 22:15 I don't want to go out to war."
- 22:17 And he said, "Let me tell you a story: in 1948, War of
- 22:19 Independence, when Israel was reborn, well guess what?"
- 22:22 He said, "My grandfather went out and he fought
- 22:24 with only a shovel.
- 22:26 He believed in the cause that-- we're all here, in this Defense
- 22:29 Force, we're here to defend the defenseless.
- 22:31 We can't give up."
- 22:32 And so sometimes you see the giants in the land, and there
- 22:35 were giants in the time of Joshua.
- 22:37 There are giants now.
- 22:38 Some of those giants could even be within you, but if you know
- 22:40 how to say I am going to look beyond that, I am going look
- 22:43 towards the mission and tenacity to that mission.
- 22:45 Again, one of our core competencies, our core values,
- 22:49 the tenacity to the mission.
- 22:50 It doesn't matter, it's one our slangs or our models, is this is
- 22:55 what we have and with this we shall succeed.
- 22:57 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Well, Sarge, the Israeli Defense
- 22:59 Forces under Moses initially, they didn't have that
- 23:03 disposition, it didn't work very well for them as a result.
- 23:07 Chaim: No, and I know that the spies when they came back,
- 23:09 because you mentioned, they brought a bad report and that
- 23:11 delayed their success.
- 23:14 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Have you seen bad reports in the Israeli
- 23:15 Defense Forces, and have you seen people blow out because
- 23:19 they just weren't made of the right stuff,
- 23:20 they didn't have confidence.
- 23:23 Chaim: It's true, some people say: this journey is
- 23:25 just too hard for me.
- 23:26 I know one guy they said okay, he had to drop and give
- 23:29 a hundred pushups, you know.
- 23:30 And at one point he just says, "I'm not doing this," you know.
- 23:32 And in our elite unit, all you have to do is sign "I quit",
- 23:35 you write "I quit" that's all, and you hand it in,
- 23:37 and you can then go to the regular battalions.
- 23:40 The regular company, and so they would always come to me and say,
- 23:44 "Hey you look tired, would you like to just write those
- 23:46 two words," and I would say absolutely not.
- 23:49 Take that hamburger and french fries away from me.
- 23:51 I will eat nasty army food.
- 23:53 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: You're looking for that eye of the tiger.
- 23:56 That vision and faith, correct?
- 23:57 Chaim: That's correct.
- 23:59 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Thanks, Sarge.
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- 24:03 David: Chaim is a dear friend of this ministry; we consider
- 24:05 him actually as our Jewish brother.
- 24:08 We go on tour with him, he gets on our bus,
- 24:10 and we hear wonderful insight from him.
- 24:13 He had some really good self-control, being--
- 24:16 Caleb: Discipline, man, he's disciplined.
- 24:18 You got to be a soldier if you're di-- you know,
- 24:20 disciplined in the soldier--
- 24:21 Kristen: Have either of you served in the military?
- 24:22 Joshua Colson: We haven't actually.
- 24:24 Kristen: That's okay, you could have been IDF,
- 24:27 you could've easy.
- 24:28 Okay so I had a rumor, or heard a rumor:
- 24:31 do you work out two times a day?
- 24:34 Like to the gym?
- 24:36 Joshua Colson: I have definitely spent many years
- 24:38 doing two-a-days: working out in the morning
- 24:39 and working out at night.
- 24:42 When you have a goal in mind, discipline is the only thing
- 24:45 that's going to see you through to that goal.
- 24:46 Kristen: Okay, I am jumping in on you totally.
- 24:49 You mentioned looking a certain way, all of you watching, you
- 24:54 haven't stood up.
- 24:56 I mean, I've got to say, you are a little Nephilim-ish.
- 24:59 You don't have-- no, no in a good way!
- 25:02 You don't have six fingers and six toes I hope,
- 25:05 but I mean your stature, you--
- 25:08 Caleb: He's 6'8".
- 25:09 Kristen: Six-- you are not!
- 25:11 Caleb: Six foot eight, I'm 6'6, yes.
- 25:12 Kristen: Wow!
- 25:14 Sorry, I don't mean to downplay your physical stature.
- 25:16 Joshua Colson: He was skinny, and I had a thicker frame,
- 25:17 you know we are tall.
- 25:20 I like to believe that God wanted the giants to have a run
- 25:22 for their money, at least with a good fight for us.
- 25:25 But the point is, you're always going to have an obstacle in
- 25:28 life, you're always going to face a giant in your life.
- 25:30 There's always something you're going to come across that seems
- 25:33 too big to be able to overcome and handle and that is when
- 25:37 keeping your eye on the solution is so important.
- 25:40 So often we get focused on the problem: How am I going to
- 25:42 overcome this obstacle?
- 25:44 We stare at it; we give it all of our authority and
- 25:46 all of our power, and it defeats us every time.
- 25:48 We give into worry and fear.
- 25:50 What the Bible say in Luke, it says how many of you have ever
- 25:52 added a second to your life by worrying about it.
- 25:54 You haven't.
- 25:56 So, our focus has to be in the author and finish for our faith,
- 25:58 and when our focus is on the solution, he's going to guide us
- 26:00 to it every single time.
- 26:02 Kristen: That-- that's good.
- 26:03 David: That makes me want to get back in the gym,
- 26:05 like tonight.
- 26:08 Kristen: Joshua just mentioned about not walking in
- 26:10 fear and knowing that God has a plan, and I don't want you to
- 26:15 walk in fear, we don't want to walk in fear here at the program
- 26:19 that we aren't going to be able to make it another year, I mean
- 26:22 finances in the world are tight.
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- 26:46 David: I also mentioned earlier that Chaim Malespin gets
- 26:48 on our bus when we are at the Sea of Galilei in Tiberias.
- 26:52 He has wonderful insight, he's a brother you will love him.
- 26:56 We ask you to join us or consider joining us on a tour to
- 26:59 Israel, we go both in the fall and the spring.
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- 27:03 Guys--
- 27:05 Kristen: We have to wrap it up.
- 27:06 Joshua Colson: I want to go to Israel now that I've heard
- 27:08 that, I've been before, it's an incredible trip.
- 27:09 I want everyone to remember
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