Caption transcript for “Olivier Melnick and the Rise of Antisemitism”

• 00:09 ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪
• 00:11 Joshua Colson: Hey, everybody. I'm Joshua.
• 00:12 Caleb Colson: And I'm Caleb. Joshua: We're brothers.
• 00:14 Caleb: Bearded Bible Brothers, and we would like to wish you
• 00:18 all a happy Sukkot, Feast of Tabernacles.
• 00:21 You know, this feast is very important to our Jewish people,
• 00:25 and it's the last feast of the Lord.
• 00:27 And two years ago, we had a very special and memorable Sukkot
• 00:31 that we will never forget.
• 00:32 And in honor of that on October 7, that tragic event that
• 00:36 happened in which many Jews were murdered by Hamas, we'd like to
• 00:40 talk to you today about anti-Semitism because it has
• 00:43 really reached a fever pitch in the world.
• 00:46 Joshua: With an attack against Israel this magnitude, one would
• 00:49 assume that the world would rally behind Israel to support
• 00:52 them in this time of what we consider to be a genocidal
• 00:55 attack, the attempt to just kill Jews for the sake of
• 00:58 killing Jews.
• 00:59 Unfortunately, after just a few short days, maybe even 48 hours
• 01:03 that wasn't the story.
• 01:04 The world seemed to band together in an anti-Semitic
• 01:07 fever pitch, one that hasn't been seen since World War II.
• 01:12 It has to be demonic in origin.
• 01:14 Children from college campuses around the United States who
• 01:17 never even knew that the true details of World War II were
• 01:21 chanting anti-Semitic slurs, were standing against Israel.
• 01:25 We saw hate crimes committed across the United States,
• 01:28 attacks of all kinds against literally helpless people
• 01:32 because of this anti-Semitism.
• 01:34 Caleb: That's why we thought it was very important to reunite
• 01:37 with a good friend of ours, Olivier Melnick, of Shalom in
• 01:40 Messiah Ministries.
• 01:42 He is an amazing man, a French Jew by birth, and God has given
• 01:46 him a commission to preach about anti-Semitism and the dangers
• 01:50 thereof to the entire world.
• 01:51 So for those who don't remember Olivier, we would like you to
• 01:55 watch this clip of some of his past teachings on our program.
• 01:59 Olivier Melnick: Let me start by giving you quickly, I think it's
• 02:02 important, my definition of anti-Semitism because that will
• 02:05 set the stage.
• 02:06 My definition of anti-Semitism and the two--the first two words
• 02:09 are key.
• 02:11 The anti-Semitism is the demonic and irrational hatred of the
• 02:15 Jewish people and of Israel, characterized by thoughts,
• 02:20 words, and/or deeds against them.
• 02:22 And the two key words again are demonic and irrational.
• 02:26 Only Satan can make the irrational look and
• 02:28 sound rational.
• 02:29 And it is demonic.
• 02:31 It is from Satan because--and going back to the tribulation
• 02:34 now, he wants--he knows that at the end of the seven year
• 02:37 tribulation, the time of Jacob's trouble, the Jewish people will
• 02:40 corporately say, "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the
• 02:43 Lord," "Baruch Haba b'Shem Adonai," and that's when Yeshua
• 02:46 comes back.
• 02:48 A lot--most Christians actually don't know that Jesus, Yeshua
• 02:50 does not return, not the Rapture.
• 02:52 The Second Coming.
• 02:54 Does not return until the Jewish people call on him, and that's
• 02:57 connected to Zachariah 12:10.
• 03:00 And so what we have here is with Satan, he knows that his career
• 03:06 is going to be an end, it's gonna be ended when Yeshua
• 03:10 returns and he doesn't really care for his retirement plan.
• 03:14 He doesn't like where he's going.
• 03:15 So if he could stop the Jews from calling on Jesus, then his
• 03:20 job is safe.
• 03:21 He's gonna keep his job and Jesus is not coming back.
• 03:24 So that's what he's been doing for 2000 years, more than that.
• 03:27 He's been behind anti-Semitism and he's gonna try--he tried at
• 03:31 the first coming to stop Jesus from coming and he's gonna try
• 03:35 again and he's not gonna succeed.
• 03:37 But casualties unfortunately will take place and the
• 03:41 casualties that we--when it comes to the Jewish people, we
• 03:44 look at him from Zachariah 13:8 and 9, that 2/3 of the Jewish
• 03:48 people will die during the tribulation and 1/3 will be
• 03:52 refined as silver and gold and that's that 1/3 that will say,
• 03:56 "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord."
• 03:59 Caleb: This is Rockwall, Texas, very green.
• 04:01 This is not the normal Texas look.
• 04:04 We found it. It took us a while.
• 04:06 Joshua: You're saying there might have been a clue at the
• 04:08 Israeli sign in the front?
• 04:11 Caleb: Got my phone.
• 04:12 And we finally made it after circling the wrong way.
• 04:15 Joshua had to do a U-turn.
• 04:16 Joshua: I'm a fan of making sure that all the stuff before and
• 04:20 behind us aren't the right place.
• 04:21 Caleb: Understood. Olivier, so good to see you.
• 04:30 Olivier: Did you find the place? I mean, obviously you found it.
• 04:31 Caleb: We missed it.
• 04:33 Joshua: I found all your other neighbors and then found you,
• 04:35 but that's just my fault.
• 04:36 What's going on?
• 04:37 Caleb: We didn't want to come empty handed, sir, so here--
• 04:39 Olivier: Oh, come on. Joshua: He's gonna make--
• 04:41 Caleb: We had to make sure-- Olivier: A pink one.
• 04:43 Caleb: Only pink. So good to see you.
• 04:46 Joshua: He's gonna try and make sure that you get diabetes one
• 04:47 way or another.
• 04:49 How are you, sir? Thank you for having us over.
• 04:50 Caleb: Olivier, we wanna get to know you.
• 04:51 We want our audience to get to know you better and how you
• 04:54 started off with Shalom in Messiah Ministries, but you were
• 04:57 even around before that with Chosen People Ministries.
• 04:59 Is that correct?
• 05:01 Olivier: Are you telling me I'm old?
• 05:02 Caleb: No, I'm not saying you're old.
• 05:04 I have the gray in my beard too. I just dyed.
• 05:06 Olivier: I've been around "a while," yes.
• 05:08 I actually was with, you know Fruchtenbaum and
• 05:11 Ariel Ministries?
• 05:12 I was with them for six and a half years and then with Chosen
• 05:15 People for 26.
• 05:17 Recently, well, when I say recently, February 1 of 2024, we
• 05:23 started our own thing with Shalom in Messiah Ministries
• 05:26 and I've been with Chosen People for 26 years.
• 05:28 You know, in the last ten years or so I was a regional director.
• 05:31 So the regional director is requiring a lot of--wearing a
• 05:35 lot of different hats.
• 05:36 And it was pulling me in a lot of directions.
• 05:38 And at the same time the Lord was pulling me more and more and
• 05:42 more towards the educating the body of Messiah about
• 05:44 anti-Semitism, but not just educating them.
• 05:46 Now there's also a sense of education and mobilization.
• 05:50 It's not just like this is what anti-Semitism was about, it's
• 05:54 coming back.
• 05:55 We are back in it and we'll talk more about that, now we need to
• 05:58 be prepared to do something to help the Jews, to help Israel.
• 06:02 And so in the process of wanting to do more about the
• 06:04 mobilization and the equipping the Christians as
• 06:07 well, I was being pulled away from my job as a regional
• 06:10 director and I had to make a decision and that's why we
• 06:12 started the ministry.
• 06:13 Caleb: Well, I think it was a decision that the Holy Spirit
• 06:15 was really setting up for you because now you're not being
• 06:19 held back.
• 06:20 Now you can go forth and what greater time in history with the
• 06:23 rise of anti-Semitism, I think at some of its peak levels.
• 06:26 I have never seen, obviously.
• 06:28 Ever since October 7, it is like the gates of hell have been
• 06:31 unleashed against Jewish people and it's totally cool to
• 06:34 be anti-Semitic.
• 06:36 Olivier: It's not, but that's what people think.
• 06:37 Caleb: That's what people think.
• 06:38 Olivier: Yes.
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• 07:04 God bless their souls.
• 07:06 Joshua: Wait, I'm a brother.
• 07:07 Caleb: Sweet. Joshua: Dude.
• 07:09 Caleb: Olivier, we get a lot of comments from people like on
• 07:11 social media and the big movements that are going around.
• 07:15 I was scratching my head at first thinking, how can people
• 07:18 possibly think and believe this when you have so much
• 07:21 documentation and history and all that but no one looks for
• 07:24 the truth?
• 07:25 That's why they hear people's own testimony and they
• 07:27 believe that.
• 07:28 But one of the biggest anti-Semitic movements I'm
• 07:31 seeing today is trying to delegitimize the Jewish people
• 07:34 in Israel as being Jewish.
• 07:36 Oh, they're not Jewish.
• 07:37 What do you mean?
• 07:39 How can they not be Jewish?
• 07:40 Well, they're, you know, descendants of the Khazars or
• 07:41 the true Jews or of the Mormons or--
• 07:44 Joshua: Those are the real Jews?
• 07:45 Oh, man.
• 07:47 Caleb: Or the royal family of England is the lost ten tribes,
• 07:50 all these different things, but it's still about replacing the
• 07:53 Jewishness of the Jews--that they're not Jewish.
• 07:56 How did all this come about?
• 07:57 What's the truth?
• 07:58 Olivier: Well, you know, again, to be able to even understand
• 08:00 all those different trends trying to delegitimize the
• 08:05 Jewish people and delegitimize Israel, you have to understand
• 08:08 that anti-Semitism comes from Satan, and Satan is gonna make
• 08:11 something irrational look rational.
• 08:14 So this has a foundation, then you look at all those things,
• 08:17 you go, yeah, that makes sense because this makes no sense, so
• 08:19 that would make sense that it would become rational.
• 08:21 The Khazars, for instance, it's a bizarre thing.
• 08:24 It was a group of people that lived between Russia and Ukraine
• 08:28 around that area in like the 7th through the 9th century and it's
• 08:33 a true story.
• 08:34 The king, I think his name was King Bullon.
• 08:36 King Bullon wanted one day to, he said, "I wanna be religious."
• 08:39 Just when he woke up one day, he says, "I wanna become religious.
• 08:42 I wanna adopt a religion."
• 08:44 So he asked a Muslim, a Christian, and a Jew to come to
• 08:48 his palace and to try to convince him.
• 08:50 And the story goes that the Rabbi or the Jewish scholar
• 08:54 convinced him that it was the right religion.
• 08:57 And he said, "Okay, I'm buying it.
• 08:59 I mean, this is where I wanna go."
• 09:01 And he converted.
• 09:02 And it's true, now I don't know how true the three different
• 09:06 scholars are, but it's true that he converted to Judaism with his
• 09:10 family and a certain amount of people within his court
• 09:14 followed suit.
• 09:15 How many?
• 09:17 Nobody knows, but it's true that he converted to Judaism and
• 09:19 that's maybe a small, a small number of people from this
• 09:25 country that used to be called Khazaria.
• 09:27 That was a real country.
• 09:28 And it was, eventually, there was a big revolt in like the
• 09:32 nine--I think 916.
• 09:33 Kiev went after them and they just, you know, they
• 09:35 destroyed them.
• 09:37 So the Khazars really don't exist anymore.
• 09:39 But from this Gentile king who converted to Judaism, which by
• 09:45 the way, when you convert to Judaism, it makes you convert to
• 09:48 a religion.
• 09:49 It does not make you ethnically a Jew.
• 09:52 Caleb: Jewish, exactly.
• 09:53 Joshua: Which should be just a normal common sense thing and
• 09:56 yet for some reason this escapes most people today.
• 10:00 Olivier: Right, we could stop right there.
• 10:02 And if you need a biblical reference for that, go to the
• 10:04 Book of Ruth.
• 10:06 When she said, "Your people will be my people," she was before
• 10:09 that in the early chapters called the Moabite and after
• 10:12 that she was also--she continued to be called a Moabite or
• 10:15 Moabitess depending on what version, but, you know, before
• 10:18 and after she converted to Judaism, she was called a
• 10:21 Moabite because she converted--she placed herself
• 10:24 under the Commonwealth of Israel, under the authority of
• 10:26 the Mosaic law, and she didn't become a Jew.
• 10:29 I mean, nothing as a Jew I can do that will make you make me a
• 10:32 non-Jew, and there's nothing a Gentile can do that will make
• 10:35 them "ethnically" a Gentile.
• 10:38 So converting to Judaism really made him a proselyte to Judaism,
• 10:43 him and his immediate entourage, I should say.
• 10:47 And for some reason this was picked up, but much later,
• 10:51 much later.
• 10:52 Now the story of that king, it was invalidated by a book known
• 10:56 that you might have even heard the name the Kuzari by Yehudah
• 11:01 Halevi, a Rabbi who wrote in the 12th century, the story of what
• 11:04 happened to the king.
• 11:06 It's called the Kuzari.
• 11:07 And it was 500 years after it happened, so you still don't
• 11:09 know if--
• 11:10 Caleb: A few details give or take, you know.
• 11:12 Olivier: Exactly, but that plus other things prove that the
• 11:13 story is real, but to go from there to saying today that all
• 11:18 the modern Jews are descendants of the Khazars and they're not
• 11:21 descendants of Judean, you know, Jews which, you know, the
• 11:24 biblical definition of a Jew is a descendant of Abraham, Isaac,
• 11:28 and Jacob through one of the 12 tribes of Israel.
• 11:30 That's a Jew.
• 11:31 That was a Jew.
• 11:33 And so to say that they are descendants of the Khazars and
• 11:36 there's no real Jews, well, they went on several books were
• 11:40 written and to try to prove that.
• 11:42 And then when they really got into DNA, they had all serious
• 11:46 DNA research and I've got the numbers at home in my office,
• 11:50 they proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was absolutely
• 11:52 not possible.
• 11:53 That everything--the commonality of all the Jews is Israel.
• 11:57 But why?
• 11:58 The question is why would people promote that view, glad you
• 12:01 didn't ask.
• 12:02 Joshua: No, I didn't answer.
• 12:03 Caleb: He was about to. I know.
• 12:05 Olivier: He was about to. Caleb: I saw it on his forehead.
• 12:07 Olivier: The question is--the reason why, I think about it, if
• 12:09 the real Jews today are not descendants of Israel, they have
• 12:13 zero rights.
• 12:15 Caleb: They're the occupiers.
• 12:16 Olivier: Now they're de facto-- overnight, they become
• 12:19 the occupiers.
• 12:21 Nobody can argue that.
• 12:23 So then we can kick them out.
• 12:24 We can destroy them, from the river to the sea, no more Jews.
• 12:26 So that's why the Kazar theory or the Kazar conspiracy theory,
• 12:30 really, is being pushed, but there's no validity whatsoever.
• 12:35 Joshua: The idea, first of all, that you can replace the Jews
• 12:39 is called?
• 12:40 Caleb: Replacement theology.
• 12:41 Joshua: Super simple, right?
• 12:43 When you hear replacement theology and you say, why is
• 12:44 it bad?
• 12:45 It's the doctrine that you can replace the Jews and become the
• 12:49 Jews and inherit everything you said a second ago just like Ruth
• 12:52 didn't become--you converting to Judaism doesn't make you of the
• 12:55 heritage of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, a very important thing.
• 12:58 And then why else?
• 12:59 Because today the biggest question that's happening with
• 13:01 what's going on in Israel is do they have the right to the land?
• 13:05 If you didn't come for there and if we can call into question
• 13:07 that didn't come for there, then we can take away their
• 13:09 God-given rights.
• 13:11 These are more reasons why it's detailed.
• 13:12 Again, with today's pushes of things behind us didn't matter.
• 13:15 I know that when I was in Germany with the show many years
• 13:18 ago, Jobst Bittner was talking about how the German people had
• 13:21 a possible epidemic of a generation that did not know
• 13:24 that the Holocaust existed because shame had prevented it
• 13:27 from being handed down the information from generation to
• 13:29 generation, right?
• 13:31 So today's generation doesn't care about the past, "If it
• 13:33 happened before me and I'm living for my truth, what does
• 13:35 it matter?"
• 13:36 And yet today it's such an important topic about
• 13:38 anti-Semitism because it vitally matters.
• 13:41 This has been a plan literally since the Garden, right?
• 13:45 Satan inspired and it's gone through the ages.
• 13:47 Tell me about some notable time periods in history of
• 13:50 anti-Semitism that really show that this was an organized
• 13:53 effort on Satan's behalf.
• 13:55 Olivier: Well, I mean, if you wanna stay within the biblical
• 13:58 record, you know, the book of Esther, of course, we
• 14:01 just, you know, not too long ago celebrated Purim.
• 14:04 The book of Esther is in--well, first of all, go back to Genesis
• 14:07 12:3, the promise that God made to Abraham that you ratified
• 14:11 into a covenant a few chapters later.
• 14:12 In that promise, he said, you know, "I'll bless those who
• 14:14 bless you and curse him who curses you."
• 14:16 That's Abraham is a representative of the Jewish
• 14:19 people and so if you bless the Jews, you'll be blessed.
• 14:21 If you curse the Jews, you'll be cursed.
• 14:22 And I always tell people there's no gray area, there's no sitting
• 14:25 on the fence.
• 14:27 God didn't say, "If you're not sure, just don't bless,
• 14:29 don't curse.
• 14:30 Just sit on the fence. Just don't get involved.
• 14:31 No, you bless or you curse."
• 14:33 By default, if you don't do one, you do the other.
• 14:35 There's only two choices. Think about that.
• 14:37 If you don't curse, you bless. If you don't bless, you curse.
• 14:40 It's black and white.
• 14:41 So and people don't like to hear that.
• 14:42 Joshua: It's a great point.
• 14:44 Olivier: So, but then you go through the Bible and you see,
• 14:46 you know, Psalm 83, you know, the enemies of Israel want, you
• 14:49 know, let's destroy Israel that the name of Israel will be
• 14:51 remembered no more.
• 14:52 And which, by the way, the next verse is "They have conspired
• 14:55 against you.
• 14:56 They make a covenant against you."
• 14:58 So, you know, they're like, you know, you cannot separate Israel
• 15:01 from the God of Israel.
• 15:03 Caleb: Amen.
• 15:04 Olivier: And so it's a tough one.
• 15:05 And then you have Haman in the book of Esther, then you have
• 15:08 Pharaoh, you know, Joseph, you know, you have all those
• 15:10 biblical stories, but then you move outside of the biblical
• 15:13 record, you know, Constantin would be a good way to start,
• 15:15 except that, really, the view that led to what we call today
• 15:20 replacement theology is an allegorical approach to the
• 15:24 council of God and that started, you know, within the 1st century
• 15:27 after the closing of the canon, which was a couple of centuries
• 15:29 before Constantine.
• 15:31 So, you know, many of the church fathers started to look at the
• 15:34 Scriptures and going like, well, you know, when we read Israel
• 15:36 it's not really Israel, it's us, the Christians because God
• 15:39 is done.
• 15:40 And so it's slowly it was not called that way--
• 15:42 Caleb: Yeah, the Gentile fathers, I'm assuming.
• 15:43 Olivier: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was not called replacement
• 15:46 theology by name, but the concept started to be born out
• 15:51 of their allegorical approach to the Bible, not a literal
• 15:55 hermeneutics, you know, contextual hermeneutics, so that
• 15:58 got started.
• 15:59 And then through Constantine and went through the ages and then
• 16:01 you have all those things that happened because of that and
• 16:04 because of, really, also you have to understand that
• 16:07 human nature.
• 16:08 You know, people need to remember that we are fallen
• 16:10 creatures in need of a redeemer and by virtue of being fallen
• 16:14 creatures, we make the wrong choices.
• 16:15 We hate people, you know, all of us, even after you were
• 16:18 redeemed, after you were saved, you still have to struggle
• 16:20 with that.
• 16:22 So in the--what's called being in the flesh.
• 16:23 So you see through the Middle Ages all the accusations against
• 16:26 the Jews that they poisoned the wells of Europe, which is what
• 16:32 caused the Black Plague, they--
• 16:35 Caleb: Obviously the crusades.
• 16:37 Olivier: The crusades against the Jews which were really
• 16:40 against the Muslims, but turned out that a lot of Jewish
• 16:42 people died.
• 16:43 Caleb: Killing buffet at the same time.
• 16:45 Olivier: The Spanish Inquisition, the pogroms in
• 16:47 Eastern Europe.
• 16:48 Caleb: Expulsion of Jews from England.
• 16:50 Olivier: From England, from France, from Portugal, from just
• 16:52 about any country in Europe, and then it led to the apex in
• 16:57 historical anti-Semitism, which is the Holocaust, the 1930s to
• 17:01 the mid-'40s, where, you know, I mean, if Hitler had his way, you
• 17:05 would have gotten rid of the 18 million Jews at the time.
• 17:08 You got rid of 1/3, the six million.
• 17:10 Caleb: Pretty much any Jewish people have a connection to
• 17:12 the Holocaust.
• 17:13 You have some family member who died in there.
• 17:16 We have family members that go back to Germany and Austria,
• 17:19 obviously we know historically what happened to France when the
• 17:22 Nazis came in, they demanded all the Jews.
• 17:24 Do you have any family members that dealt with the Holocaust?
• 17:28 Olivier: About it was between 78,000 and 80,000 French Jews
• 17:32 that died in the Holocaust and a lot of them were, you know,
• 17:36 saved and rescued too.
• 17:38 But, yes, well, I have a close family member, my
• 17:41 maternal grandfather.
• 17:43 And what happened is that he was from Russia and it was in 1942.
• 17:46 He was at the house where I grew up my whole life.
• 17:48 We had, you know, until recently when my parents passed away, we
• 17:51 sold it, but that was the house that we grew up in, in the
• 17:53 suburb of Paris.
• 17:55 And he was from Russia.
• 17:56 It was 1942, he was, you know, the whole family is Jewish.
• 17:58 They were born in France.
• 17:59 He was not.
• 18:01 And his wife had the right papers.
• 18:02 He didn't because he was like the equivalent of being
• 18:05 the--processing the paperwork to get his green card.
• 18:08 So he had some papers, but it was not there yet.
• 18:10 He was there legally and he knew that, you know, the Gestapo was,
• 18:13 you know, visiting homes and stuff and then one evening the
• 18:16 Gestapo knocked on the door and two officers from the Gestapo
• 18:19 asked my grandmother.
• 18:20 They said, "We know your husband is in the building.
• 18:22 We received a phone call and we need him to come with us.
• 18:25 We have questions to ask him."
• 18:26 He was hiding in the cellar where they used to store the
• 18:28 coals, the coal for the stoves.
• 18:31 And she lied.
• 18:32 She said, "I don't know where he is.
• 18:33 He left.
• 18:35 I haven't talked to him in weeks."
• 18:36 And they said, "Well, you better find him because we'll come back
• 18:38 tomorrow morning, and if he is not showing up to come with us,
• 18:40 we'll take you and your daughter."
• 18:41 That will be my mother.
• 18:43 So they left and then she got him to come back upstairs and
• 18:45 she explained to him, "They came they want to get you and they
• 18:47 want to ask you some questions."
• 18:49 And it was early enough that people didn't really know a lot
• 18:52 about what happened in the camps.
• 18:54 So he said, "I'll go with them.
• 18:55 Don't worry, I'll come back.
• 18:56 I'll just go answer the questions."
• 18:58 And first he said, "I'll go find a place safe for us, and I'll
• 19:01 come get you and, you know, we'll escape
• 19:03 and I'll leave tonight."
• 19:05 And his wife said, "You can't do that because if you're not here
• 19:07 tomorrow morning, they'll take Evelyn," my mother, "And I."
• 19:09 And they said, "Okay, no, I can do that.
• 19:11 I'll go with them. Don't worry, I'll come back."
• 19:12 They took him the next morning and he never came back.
• 19:16 And he died in Auschwitz.
• 19:17 I think my research, I found out some names and some papers he
• 19:21 died within a week to a week and a half, so pretty quickly.
• 19:24 But what's interesting is that in the same building as a U
• 19:27 shape like A, B, C, three buildings making a U shape, my
• 19:31 parents lived in that building and the man upstairs worked for
• 19:34 the French police.
• 19:35 He was, which many of the French police work with the militia,
• 19:39 the Vichy government, you know, Marshal Pitta, and they were,
• 19:42 like, pretty much like the Nazis.
• 19:44 And he is the one who called the Gestapo because he was secretly
• 19:49 in love with my grandmother and he thought, "If I get rid of the
• 19:51 husband, I'll get the wife."
• 19:53 But what's interesting to me as I'm studying anti-Semitism in
• 19:55 the last almost three decades now, it's like in the same
• 19:58 building we had the victim, my grandfather; the co-perpetrator,
• 20:05 the man from the police; the perpetrators, the Germans; the
• 20:08 Gestapo; and a truckload of apartment complexes filled with
• 20:12 bystanders who were looking beyond their shutters going
• 20:16 like..."I'm not getting involved.
• 20:17 I'm just not, I'm just like, I'm not gonna touch this.
• 20:19 I don't want them to think I know them, I like them, I
• 20:22 help them.
• 20:23 I'm staying out."
• 20:24 And there was one family across the hall, across the courtyard
• 20:26 that my mother was very friends with, very good friend with,
• 20:28 their daughter and I became good friends with her son since, you
• 20:31 know, generations after, they had they known that my
• 20:35 grandfather was at risk, they would have taken him to hide him
• 20:37 in their house.
• 20:38 So they were the rescuers.
• 20:40 So in the same building you had all aspects of the
• 20:42 participants--it's always the same story.
• 20:44 You have a little bit of everything in every situation.
• 20:46 Joshua: Well, what's so crazy to me about the situation you
• 20:48 talked earlier about how, on this topic, it's either you're
• 20:53 cursed or you're blessed.
• 20:54 There's no middle ground, right?
• 20:55 And so here the enemy came for your grandfather--right?--
• 20:59 and took him all these bystanders were sitting
• 21:02 around watching.
• 21:03 I got a chance to interview several people in Germany along
• 21:06 the path the Death March took place when this church did the
• 21:09 March of Life in Tübingen, Germany.
• 21:11 And I was interviewing people who were still living there when
• 21:13 the Jews were marched through the first time.
• 21:15 And they came out and saw these Jews marching back to the camp
• 21:18 to Dachau and they were weeping saying we wanted to do something
• 21:21 so bad but we couldn't because of the shame that they felt from
• 21:24 not having done anything before.
• 21:26 So here God comes full circle after this was stolen from you--
• 21:28 the enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy--and makes his
• 21:32 grandson, your grandfather's grandson is the advocate now
• 21:35 against anti-Semitism.
• 21:36 There's no middle road.
• 21:38 Even you being here, you're not in the middle.
• 21:39 You're fighting on the side of truth and the enemy tried
• 21:42 to take.
• 21:43 And I just love that God is always redeeming.
• 21:45 He just doesn't leave it in the middle.
• 21:47 Olivier: And I guess we could say that I'm doing this to honor
• 21:50 his memory.
• 21:51 Yeah, I mean, I don't think of it this way, but that's a very
• 21:53 good point, I mean--
• 21:55 Joshua: I think maybe even whether you thought you were
• 21:56 consciously doing it, God bringing redemption to your
• 21:58 family line.
• 22:00 Because God's not going to leave, I believe in justice that
• 22:03 the enemy does like that.
• 22:05 He's always going to bring the balances back to blessing.
• 22:07 Olivier: Thank you for saying that because I've always thought
• 22:09 that I'm doing it because it's the right thing to do as a
• 22:11 believer and as a Jewish believer and I do have that
• 22:14 heritage of darkness and the history of our family, but, you
• 22:17 know, the idea of the full circle and redeeming that's--I
• 22:21 like that.
• 22:23 Thank you.
• 22:24 Joshua: I mean, I'm not saying this is prophetic.
• 22:25 I just like I'm a visual picture guy, so I can see your
• 22:27 grandfather up in heaven cheering him like, you know--
• 22:29 I don't know your accent.
• 22:30 Olivier: You have one of those.
• 22:31 Joshua: Yes, I won a pink Starburst.
• 22:33 But can you imagine just the party up there to see your life
• 22:35 fulfilling this--what was robbed and steal, kill, and destroy
• 22:38 and God's come back, so.
• 22:39 Olivier: And you know what?
• 22:40 Honestly, this gives me even more of a purpose to really
• 22:44 keep going at it.
• 22:45 I mean, I was not gonna stop fighting the fight, but really
• 22:48 now it really helps me to refocus on this because it's a
• 22:53 difficult mission.
• 22:54 I mean, to try to educate the church and to fight the haters
• 22:57 and to go to talk to Jewish people today, who the vast
• 23:00 majority of them are saying like, oh, it's not that bad, and
• 23:04 it's just like how bad does it need to get for you to go like,
• 23:06 "Okay, it's bad"?
• 23:08 I mean, a lot of the Jews in my grandfather's day, they say it's
• 23:11 not that bad until they were on the train on our one-way ticket
• 23:13 when they went out--
• 23:14 Caleb: It's too late.
• 23:16 Olivier: Maybe it's bad and it's too late.
• 23:17 Joshua: Well, and this is what's so crazy to me about the
• 23:19 complacency within the church is Jesus, Yeshua, whom we have
• 23:23 committed our lives to, there was nothing complacent about
• 23:25 his life.
• 23:26 He had 33 short years to fulfill the law perfectly, to come and
• 23:30 fulfill everything that ever been prophesied, all this stuff.
• 23:33 It wasn't like he just took rest days, I don't think.
• 23:35 You know, like we just see this man with a purpose and
• 23:38 a mission.
• 23:39 Why would he do all that so that we could be lazy and complacent
• 23:41 and say that it's not that bad?
• 23:43 Give a charge, you know, give a charge to the people watching at
• 23:46 home, the people who say they believe in Yeshua and yet
• 23:48 they're not defending Israel, they're not defending
• 23:50 his people.
• 23:51 Why is it so important?
• 23:53 Olivier: You know, the call to action that we need for today,
• 23:54 we've talked about this before.
• 23:56 I don't think anti-Semitism is going away.
• 23:58 It's under the box.
• 23:59 It's gonna continue to grow exponentially.
• 24:01 All nations will go against Jerusalem, Zachariah 12:3.
• 24:04 I mean, we know that.
• 24:06 I think right now is a time for Christians to continue to speak
• 24:09 against anti-Semitism.
• 24:10 In the schoolyard, you point at the bully and you fight the
• 24:14 bully, but the bully's gonna come back tomorrow and do
• 24:15 it again.
• 24:17 But it doesn't matter.
• 24:18 Every day you're going to say it's wrong, and you try to
• 24:19 stop them.
• 24:21 In the meantime, what can you do to protect the other kids from
• 24:23 the bully?
• 24:24 The bully is anti-Semitism.
• 24:25 It's not going away.
• 24:27 And what can we do to protect the kids from the bully, to
• 24:28 protect the Jews from what's happening?
• 24:30 Joshua: Olivier, thank you so much for sharing with us the
• 24:33 history of your family and the passion that God has placed in
• 24:35 your life to do this.
• 24:37 I feel right now the same way I did with less information on
• 24:40 October 7, when I was standing there in front of Abu Ghoshan,
• 24:42 saying, "Today--" when the sirens went off and the first
• 24:44 missiles were shot, I said, "Today there's people who are
• 24:46 gonna lose their lives and they're gonna spend eternity
• 24:48 separated because they don't know the Father."
• 24:49 You have no idea how much time you have left for your time to
• 24:54 be idle, for your time to be complacent, for you to not take
• 24:57 a stand on the things that matter the most because you
• 25:00 don't wanna be a controversial figure.
• 25:02 You don't wanna say something that might cause an argument is
• 25:05 the wrong choice.
• 25:07 There are only two positions-- hot and cold.
• 25:10 Blessed and cursed.
• 25:11 You don't get to straddle a line or stand back as an observer
• 25:14 behind the fence and think that you're safe.
• 25:16 I felt led.
• 25:17 Please pray for everyone right now that they'll hear from the
• 25:19 Father on what they're supposed to do, what their part is, and
• 25:21 that they'll have the boldness to rise up and do that.
• 25:23 Olivier: Well, Lord, thank you for this time together on
• 25:26 this program.
• 25:27 Thank you for the my two friends here, my two brothers.
• 25:30 Lord, the prayer is simple and if you're listening to this, if
• 25:34 you're watching this program, the prayer is very simple.
• 25:36 There's no magic formula.
• 25:38 It's simply coming to a place when you know you cannot do
• 25:41 anything on your own.
• 25:42 So if you pray a simple prayer, a simple prayer like, "Lord, I
• 25:45 know I'm a sinner and I know I'm separated from you.
• 25:48 And I believe that Yeshua, Jesus, died for my sins and he
• 25:52 rose again and he's gonna return.
• 25:54 I believe all that and I wanna invite him in my heart to be my
• 25:58 Savior today."
• 25:59 If you pray that simple prayer, you become part of the family of
• 26:02 God, and it's an important prayer.
• 26:03 It's the most important prayer you'll ever pray in your
• 26:05 whole life.
• 26:07 Today is the day.
• 26:08 So if you pray that prayer, welcome to the family.
• 26:10 It's never too late.
• 26:12 You can do it on your own, anywhere you want.
• 26:13 Caleb: Olivier has devoted his entire life to speaking out
• 26:17 against anti-Semitism, which is truly from the spirit
• 26:20 of antichrist.
• 26:21 Josh, you know, this is a struggle that we're going to be
• 26:24 seeing rise up more and more as The Day of the Lord approaches.
• 26:28 It's prophesied that this will occur, but still very tragic to
• 26:33 think back and remember all these moments of anti-Semitism
• 26:37 just in the past two years and how, really, it's become
• 26:40 mainstream, Josh, to be anti-Semitic is cool now.
• 26:43 Joshua: It's very unfortunate to hear that, to see the propaganda
• 26:46 that's being displayed.
• 26:47 Now as we approach the two year mark, we ask you to put your
• 26:51 focus again on what happened, not for the sake of a lack of
• 26:53 forgiveness because we understand that forgiveness is
• 26:56 at the heart of the Father, but so we do not repeat the
• 26:59 atrocities that seem to continue to happen when we put those out
• 27:03 of our mind, out of sight and out of mind.
• 27:05 As a country, Israel is still hurting with nearly 70%
• 27:09 experiencing PTSD because of the impact of so many lives being
• 27:13 lost, 1200-plus Jews, lives lost in that day, for those who are
• 27:18 still held hostage.
• 27:20 This is a nation that is hurting and it is time for us to stand
• 27:23 behind God's people in this nation, not to forget and not to
• 27:28 change and turn against Israel, but to defend them as God has
• 27:30 called us to.
• 27:32 Caleb: Zola Levitt Ministries has been around for 45 years
• 27:36 preaching the good news of the gospel of Yeshua and the
• 27:39 importance of Israel in God's plan for redemption.
• 27:42 We don't wanna forget about the Jewish people, but we can't
• 27:45 continue this message without your support.
• 27:47 We thank you for partnering with us, for giving to this ministry,
• 27:51 for sending us out to preach that good news.
• 27:53 And as always, we want you to remember to "Sha'alu
• 27:56 Shalom Yerushalayim."
• 27:57 Joshua: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
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