“The Darkness That Nearly Engulfed Us”

941     28:20     First aired 2007-10-21     [CC]
Episode 5 of 8 in the series “Bad Moon Rising”

Jeff teaches from the German site where Hitler nearly succeeded in developing an atomic bomb. Zola interviews Dr. Ergun Caner, an Arab-Christian who shares his insights on Islam.

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Caption transcript for Bad Moon Rising: “The Darkness That Nearly Engulfed Us” (5/8)

  • 00:04 WITH DR. JEFFREY SEIF AND SANDRA LEVITT
  • 00:11 AS DARK CLOUDS OMINOUSLY LOOM OVER THE HORIZON
  • 00:14 RADICAL MUSLIMS CHARGE THE ATMOSPHERE
  • 00:18 WITH BRAZEN DISREGARD.
  • 00:20 AS THE SUN SETS OVER CHRISTIAN EUROPE
  • 00:23 SLEEPING CHRISTIANS NEED TO WAKE UP
  • 00:26 NON-CHRISTIANS NEED TO GET UP
  • 00:28 AND MODERATE MUSLIMS NEED TO RISE UP.
  • 00:42 HEARTY SHALOM TO ALL OF YOU.
  • 00:44 JEFFREY SEIF HERE,
  • 00:45 WITH MY FRIEND SANDRA LEVITT.
  • 00:46 SHALOM
  • 00:47 AND WELCOME BACK TO "BAD MOON RISING"
  • 00:49 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVIL,
  • 00:51 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT WAYS
  • 00:53 THAT EVIL PRESENTS ITSELF IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:55 WE'VE LOOKED AT THE HOLOCAUST.
  • 00:56 WE'RE STILL GOING TO LOOK AT THE HOLOCAUST.
  • 00:58 IN FACT, JEFF YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO A PLACE
  • 01:00 THEY ALMOST GOT THE ATOM READY.
  • 01:03 DEEP UNDERGROUND STEALTHILY THEY WERE WORKING ON THE ATOM BOMB.
  • 01:08 I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THEY REALLY HAD DEVELOPED THAT ATOM BOMB?
  • 01:12 THANK GOD THAT AMERICANS GOT INVOLVED IN THE EUROPEAN SITUATION
  • 01:15 OR IT WOULD HAVE ALL COME UNGLUED.
  • 01:18 YOU HAVE TO REALLY STOP AND THINK,
  • 01:20 "WHAT WOULD THE WORLD HAVE LOOKED LIKE IF GERMANY HAD WON?"
  • 01:23 WELL, THERE WOULDN'T BE JEWS TO LOOK AT.
  • 01:25 ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS WOULDN'T BE PRESENTING.
  • 01:27 THAT'S RIGHT BUT I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE HERE.
  • 01:30 IT WOULD HAVE KILLED US ALL OFF.
  • 01:32 SO WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?
  • 01:34 WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS WHOLE PROGRAM, THIS WHOLE SERIES?
  • 01:36 WHAT IS THE PURPOSE?
  • 01:37 WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE BIBLE.
  • 01:39 WE WANT TO LOOK AT HISTORY.
  • 01:40 WE WANT TO PUT THE TWO TOGETHER
  • 01:41 AND LET THE WORLD KNOW THAT INASMUCH
  • 01:43 AS THE DEVIL WAS WORKING THROUGH THE NAZIS IN A BYGONE ERA,
  • 01:47 THAT WICKEDNESS IS RAISING ITS HOARY HEAD IN ANOTHER FORM.
  • 01:51 WE'LL BRING THE TWO TOGETHER FOR YOU IN A MOMENT.
  • 02:02 (Jeff speaking) HAIGERLOCH IS ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TOWNS I'VE EVER BEEN TO.
  • 02:08 SITUATED ON THE EDGE OF THE BLACK FOREST
  • 02:11 IT IS JUST A TOWN THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, ITS PRIVATE, ITS SECLUDED.
  • 02:17 ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE TOWN IS A BEAUTIFUL CASTLE THAT WAS OWNED BY THE HABSBURG
  • 02:23 AND IT WAS PAST AROUND A FEW TIMES.
  • 02:25 AND THERE ATTACHED TO THE CASTLE AS IS WAS THE HABIT IS THE PLACEMENT OF A CHURCH,
  • 02:32 A CHURCH DEDICATED TO SAINT ANNE.
  • 02:34 A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, A BEAUTIFUL CASTLE, A BEAUTIFUL CHURCH.
  • 02:41 YOU KNOW THERE'S A TRADITION OF PLACING BEAUTIFUL RELICS BENEATH CHURCHES
  • 02:46 DEDICATING THEN THE COMMUNION ALTAR TO A PARTICULAR MEMORY OF A PARTICULAR PERSON THAT DEDICATED THE CHURCH.
  • 02:54 NOW WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS CHURCH IN THIS TOWN
  • 02:58 IS THAT THE NAZIS UNDER THIS CHURCH AND UNDER THAT ALTAR
  • 03:04 DUG DEEP AND DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH IT.
  • 03:09 THEY MANUFACTURED A FACILITY TO SPLIT THE ATOM
  • 03:14 AND THROW THE THIRD REICH THEN INTO THE ATOMIC AGE.
  • 03:20 AND THEY CAME EVER SO CLOSE.
  • 03:23 AS STUDENTS OF HISTORY MIGHT RECALL
  • 03:26 THE RACE WAS ON AS WORLD WAR II WAS PRESSING TO A CONCLUSION HERE ON THE EUROPEAN THEATRE.
  • 03:35 THE NAZIS CAME THIS CLOSE
  • 03:38 AND AT THIS PLACE THEY WERE EXPERIMENTING DOWN HERE
  • 03:45 WITH THE SPLITTING OF THE ATOM, THE ENRICHMENT OF URANIUM.
  • 03:49 I DON'T WANT TO TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.
  • 03:51 I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THAT FIELD.
  • 03:53 BUT THERE ARE EXPERTS THAT HAVE COME AND STUDIED HERE AND WRITTEN ON THE SUBJECT.
  • 03:57 THIS IS THE PLACE
  • 03:59 AND THE FACT THAT THEY DID IT RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE CHURCH
  • 04:03 FOR ME IS STRIKING FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
  • 04:07 IT'S DEMONIC.
  • 04:09 AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU'LL PERMIT ME TO MUSE SOME,
  • 04:13 THE NAZIS CAME THIS CLOSE TO AN ATOM BOMB.
  • 04:17 THEY CAME THIS CLOSE TO THE V-2 ROCKET
  • 04:20 BY WHICH THEY COULD THEN LAUNCH THEIR UNCONVENTIONAL WEAPONS WITHOUT NEEDING TO SEND AIRCRAFT.
  • 04:27 THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DECISIVE IN THE WAR.
  • 04:29 AND THEY CAME THIS CLOSE; THEY ALREADY HAD JETS IN THE AIR.
  • 04:33 YOU KNOW, WE WON THAT WAR AND THANK GOD THAT WE DID
  • 04:36 AND AS A JEW I DO MEAN THAT SINCERELY.
  • 04:38 NEVER MIND ME BEING AN AMERICAN ON TOP.
  • 04:41 THE TECHNOLOGY WAS ESCALATING UP
  • 04:44 AND THANK GOD WE GOT IT BY THE GRACE OF GOD JUST BEFORE IT WAS TOO LATE.
  • 04:49 AND ITS HERE IN THIS PLACE UNDER A CHURCH
  • 04:54 IN WHAT'S ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL VILLAGES THAT I'VE EVER BEEN TO,
  • 04:59 AND I'VE BEEN TO MORE THAN ONE VILLAGE.
  • 05:01 IT'S SO QUAINT, IT'S SO QUITE, IT'S SO UNKNOWN
  • 05:05 AND IT'S FOR THIS REASON THAT THE NAZIS WANTED TO OBSCURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING,
  • 05:11 DECIDED TO PUT FINALITY TO THEIR EXPERIMENTS ON SPLITTING THE ATOM HERE
  • 05:16 AND THEN TRANSFERRING THE KNOWLEDGE FROM IT TO A RESEARCH FACILITY,
  • 05:21 THE MODEL OF WHICH IS HERE.
  • 05:23 ALL WITH AN AIM TO WIN THE RACE TO GET AN ATOM BOMB OUT.
  • 05:29 WHILE REFLECTING ON HOW FORTUNATE WE WERE TO STOP A CULTURE, A BELLICOSE CULTURE,
  • 05:38 A MILITANT CULTURE DRIVEN BY A DEMON INSPIRED PHILOSOPHY.
  • 05:43 AS CLOSE AS WE WERE BACK THEN TO PUTTING A HALT TO THEIR INTERESTS IN FORMIDABLE WEAPONS,
  • 05:52 THIS, BY THE WAY, REMINDS ME AT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF WHERE WE ARE AT THIS VERY DAY.
  • 05:59 AND NOW I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE AN ALARMIST
  • 06:01 BUT I DO WANT TO INFORM THAT WE DO WELL TO BE ALARMED.
  • 06:06 AND I'M NOT SPEAKING ON MY OWN AUTHORITY IN MAKING THAT POINT.
  • 06:12 WHEN I THINK OF AUTHORITIES
  • 06:14 I'M REMINDED OF HOW BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, A FORMER ISRAELI AMBASSADOR, UNITED NATIONS,
  • 06:19 A FORMER PRIME MINISTER THERE IN THE NATION STATE OF ISRAEL
  • 06:24 WARNED NOT LONG AGO...I HEARD HIM ON TV, OUR FILM CREW WENT THERE AND GOT THE SHOT IN FACT
  • 06:29 WHERE HE SAID, "LISTEN, MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD IN IRAN"
  • 06:34 "IS THREATENING TO DO IN 12 MINUTES WHAT HITLER COULDN'T DO IN 12 YEARS."
  • 06:45 THAT IS TO SAY, WITH HIS GEARING UP WITH NUCLEAR ARMAMENT
  • 06:51 THAT HE CAN DO BY PUSHING A BUTTON
  • 06:53 WHAT HITLER COULDN'T DO WITH ALL THE BUTTONS HE PUSHED
  • 06:56 AND FAVORS HE CALLED UPON AS HE WAS DEVELOPING HIS WAR MACHINERY HERE IN NAZI EUROPE.
  • 07:07 IT WAS POSSIBLE
  • 07:09 AND THE ONLY COMPARISON THAT WE CAN MAKE
  • 07:12 OF THIS DANGER OF THIS TERRORIST FANATIC MENTALITY
  • 07:16 ACQUIRING WEAPONS OF DEATH,
  • 07:17 IS THE ATTEMPT 60 YEARS AGO BY HITLER AND NAZISM TO ACQUIRE ATOMIC WEAPONS.
  • 07:23 AND YOU KNOW THAT HISTORY WOULD HAVE TAKEN A FAR DIFFERENT COURSE IF THAT HAPPENED.
  • 07:26 SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MUST BE STOPPED.
  • 07:28 THE ATTEMPT OF IRAN TO ARM ITSELF WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS,
  • 07:31 THE FACT THAT IT DENIES THE HOLOCAUST, CAN YOU IMAGINE?
  • 07:35 WHILE THEY'RE ANNOUNCING THAT THEY'LL MAKE A NEW HOLOCAUST
  • 07:38 THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY'RE DENYING THE PREVIOUS HOLOCAUST
  • 07:42 BECAUSE THEY'D LIKE TO PAVE THE GROUND FOR A NEW ONE.
  • 07:45 AND I THINK THIS IS A VERY GREAT DANGER FOR ALL OF US.
  • 07:50 IT IS TERROR MULTIPLIED TO THE NTH DEGREE.
  • 07:53 IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE STOPPED.
  • 08:14 THE WONDER
  • 08:20 THE BEAUTY
  • 08:26 THE SOUL OF THE HOLY LAND
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  • 09:14 I THINK THERE'S REASON TO BE ALARMED
  • 09:16 AND ITS NOT THAT I WANT TO BE AN ALARMIST.
  • 09:21 AT ISSUE ISN'T SO MUCH THE FACT THAT THERE'S A NATION STATE THAT HAS NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES.
  • 09:27 GOD KNOWS THERE ARE NATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY COME CLEAN WITH THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAMS.
  • 09:31 THE ISSUE ISN'T AN IRANIAN STATE AS ANY STATE HAVING PROGRAM
  • 09:36 AS MUCH AS THE FACT THAT THIS PROGRAM IS IN THE HANDS OF AN INDIVIDUAL AND OF A REGIME
  • 09:42 THAT'S HELL BENT WITH THEIR OWN VOCABULARY IN DECIMATING ISRAEL.
  • 09:47 AND THE FACT THAT THEIR GIVEN TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL
  • 09:51 TO ME IS STRIKING AND THEY'RE TOO FAR AWAY TO DO IT CONVENTIONALLY,
  • 09:54 NEVER MIND THE FACT THAT OTHER ISLAMIC STATES ROUND ABOUT HAVE TRIED ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION
  • 10:00 SINCE THE FOUNDING OF THE FLEDGLING STATE IN THE LATE 40'S.
  • 10:05 ALL TO NO AVAIL.
  • 10:07 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND THE PUSHING OF A BUTTON
  • 10:11 SOMEONE CAN DO SOMETHING,
  • 10:13 ANNIHILATE A NATION STATE.
  • 10:16 NOW THERE IS REASON FOR CONCERN.
  • 10:20 NOT JUST BECAUSE A NATION STATE HAS THAT CAPABILITY
  • 10:24 BUT BECAUSE THAT VERY SAME NATION STATE HAS EXPRESSED THEIR OWN INTENTION
  • 10:29 AS A CORE VALUE, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S MARGINAL, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PERIPHERAL
  • 10:33 BUT A CORE VALUE BEING TO QUOTE, "DRIVE ISRAEL INTO THE SEA."
  • 10:38 AND THE FACT THAT THIS CORE VALUE IS ATTACHED TO A PHILOSOPHICAL PERSPECTIVE
  • 10:44 THAT RESONATES DEEPLY IS CAUSE FOR CONCERN AS WELL.
  • 10:48 AND BY THAT I MEAN, IF ONE LOOKS AT THE SHIITE PROGRAM IT IS IN PART FUELED BY....
  • 10:56 NEVER MIND A NUCLEAR OR ATOMIC REACTOR.
  • 11:00 THE REACTOR, THE DRIVER BENEATH THIS INTEREST IN THE NUCLEAR AGE,
  • 11:07 THE DRIVER IS AN ESCHATOLOGY, IT'S A SENSE OF A LAST DAYS' PURPOSE FOR AN ISLAMIC REGIME
  • 11:14 TO MAKE ITS ENTRANCE ONTO THE STAGE OF THE HUMAN DRAMA.
  • 11:18 AND THERE'S MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD THAT HAS GIVEN IN HIS OWN ESTIMATION
  • 11:22 TO BEING THE JOHN THE BAPTIST OF THE NEW ISLAMIC WORLD ORDER,
  • 11:27 A HARBINGER OF IMAM WHOSE GOING TO ARISE FROM HISTORY AND BE IN EFFECT THE ISLAMIC MESSIAH.
  • 11:36 AND THERE ARE PORTENTS OF BAD THINGS TO COME IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT
  • 11:40 OF A WORLD GONE BAD, A WORLD AT WAR.
  • 11:43 AND A NUCLEAR PROGRAM SEEMS TO FACTOR INTO THAT.
  • 11:49 NOW, AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING LIKE AN ALARMIST SPEAKING TO INDIVIDUALS
  • 11:53 THAT WATCH THIS PROGRAM IN AMERICA, EUROPE, THE MIDDLE EAST AND ELSEWHERE,
  • 11:59 MY QUESTION IS, "IS IT UNREASONABLE TO BE CONCERNED?".
  • 12:05 IS IT UNREASONABLE TO THINK WE NEED TO PUT A STOP TO THAT?
  • 12:10 AND I WANT TO RAISE THAT QUESTION HERE IN PART,
  • 12:12 BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE PLACE WHERE THE NAZIS CAME EVER SO CLOSE TO DOING THAT VERY THING
  • 12:19 AND THANK GOD THAT WE NIPPED IT IN THE BUD.
  • 12:25 NOW MY QUESTION IS, DO WE DO WELL TO BE ABLE AT SOME POINT IN TIME SAY,
  • 12:29 "THANK GOD THAT WE DEVELOPED A MECHANISM TO DECISIVELY DEAL WITH THE IRANIAN THREAT."
  • 12:37 OR DO WE LET IT JUST ESCALATE UP UNCHALLENGED AND THEN DEAL WITH THE RESULTS
  • 12:43 WHEN THE BUTTONS GET PUSHED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE LOOKING A NUCLEAR RAIN?
  • 12:48 AGAIN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THE PHYSICAL SCIENCES,
  • 12:51 I'M A BIBLE TEACHER AND AGAINST THAT BACKDROP
  • 12:54 WHAT I WANT TO DO IS BRING OUT A BIBLICAL MESSAGE NOT TO BE OVERLY PROPHETIC,
  • 13:00 I DON'T LAY SIEGE TO THE CLAIM THAT I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY, PRECISELY HOW EVERYTHING PLAYS OUT.
  • 13:05 BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS BIBLICAL TEXT
  • 13:10 THAT LENDS CREDENCE TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF A WORLD ABLAZE IN FIRE.
  • 13:16 AND IT SEEMS MORE THAN JUST CONVENTIONAL FIRE AND AT LEAST RAISES THE POSSIBILITY,
  • 13:21 AND I'M NOT ALONE IN RAISING IT,
  • 13:23 THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE PROPHETICALLY AND PATHETICALLY IN THE LITERATURE
  • 13:28 IS ATTESTATIONS TO A WORLD GONE BAD, A WORLD SET ABLAZE WITH UNCONVENTIONAL WEAPONS.
  • 13:35 AND THE REASON WHY I MENTION THAT IS IF ONE LOOKS IN EZEKIEL,
  • 13:39 CHAPTER 38 IN VERSE 19, GOD SAYS,
  • 13:50 NOW HE SPEAKS OF THE FIRE OF HIS WRATH AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LEAP TO TALKING ABOUT FIRE
  • 13:56 AS BEING GOD'S JUDGMENT AS IN NUCLEAR BASED ON THAT VERSE.
  • 14:00 IT'S WHAT FOLLOWS IT THAT TO ME IS RATHER STRIKING.
  • 14:03 HE SAYS, AND I QUOTE,
  • 14:28 LET'S EXPLORE THAT IN A MINUTE WHEN I COME BACK I WANT TO DO JUST THAT.
  • 14:44 THAT'S JEFF IN THE ATOM KELLER.
  • 14:46 WE WILL LOOK AT JEFF NEXT WEEK, SAME PLACE,
  • 14:48 TALKING ABOUT EZEKIEL CONTINUING THE TEACHING IN EZEKIEL.
  • 14:52 IT IS AMAZING TO ME HOW CLOSE THE GERMANS CAME TO GETTING AN ATOM BOMB.
  • 14:57 IT JUST SIMPLY AMAZES ME.
  • 14:59 THE TEACHING WAS WONDERFUL,
  • 15:01 TO SEE THE CHURCH AND TO SEE THE ATOM KELLER UNDERNEATH
  • 15:03 WAS JUST INCREDIBLE,
  • 15:05 THE BEAUTY AND THEN THE EVIL UNDERNEATH, AMAZING TO ME.
  • 15:07 THE CONTRAST IS STRIKING.
  • 15:10 AND OUR VIEWERS AFFORD US THE OPPORTUNITY
  • 15:13 TO GO PLACES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T GO. >>YEAH
  • 15:16 TO TEACH THE BIBLE, TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE IN WORLD AND PUT IT ALL TOGETHER.
  • 15:19 I DON'T THAT WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT ANY OTHER PLACE.
  • 15:22 I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN ANY KIND OF FOOTAGE ON THAT.
  • 15:24 AND THAT REALLY WAS AN EDUCATION FOR ME
  • 15:27 TO SEE ALL THE GOINGS ON,
  • 15:29 THE MACHINATIONS OF THE WORKINGS OF AN ATOM BOMB.
  • 15:32 LIKE YOU SAID ON THE FRONT END,
  • 15:34 "THANK GOD THAT WE WERE THERE AS AMERICANS" THAT IS. >>RIGHT, RIGHT
  • 15:37 BECAUSE HAD WE'D BEEN SLUGGISH
  • 15:39 AND NOT GOTTEN INTO THE GAME
  • 15:41 THEN THE WORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN MARKEDLY DIFFERENT.
  • 15:44 THAT'S RIGHT, NOBODY ELSE CAME TO THE AIDE
  • 15:46 EXCEPT THE AMERICANS.
  • 15:47 I THINK THAT'S JUST AMAZING.
  • 15:49 CERTAINLY, EUROPEANS LOOKED AT AMERICA AS REDEEMERS THEN
  • 15:51 AND NOW PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE AMBIVALENT.
  • 15:53 BUT THEY SHOULDN'T BE.
  • 15:54 WE ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE REDEEMERS.
  • 15:56 WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE WORLD THE RIGHT PLACE.
  • 15:58 AND OTHERS,
  • 15:59 THERE'S A SILENT ARMY ALL OVER EUROPE AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.
  • 16:04 THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING,
  • 16:05 "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND WE'RE GOING TO STAND UP AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK UP."
  • 16:08 AND ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IS TED PEARCE.
  • 16:10 HE IS A NICE YOUNG MAN, UPCOMING WRITER, SONGWRITER.
  • 16:14 HE WENT TO THIS MARCH.
  • 16:16 IT CHANGED HIS LIFE.
  • 16:18 HERE'S TED.
  • 16:21 IN AMERICA I THINK OUR PROBLEM IS THAT WE THINK WE CAN BUY ANYTHING;
  • 16:24 HEALING THROUGH PILLS OR WHATEVER.
  • 16:27 WE REALLY THINK WE CAN BUY ANYTHING.
  • 16:29 AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN DEALING WITH OUR ENEMIES IN THE WORLD
  • 16:35 IS WE THINK WE CAN BUY THEM.
  • 16:37 AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT MONEY ISN'T EVERYTHING TO EVERYBODY LIKE IT IS TO AMERICANS.
  • 16:42 IF I HAD TO GO FOR THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM THAT'S WHAT I'D SAY IT IS.
  • 16:45 WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF HATRED THAT'S BEING DIRECTED AT US.
  • 16:50 AGAIN, BECAUSE WE THINK WE CAN BUY LOVE
  • 16:56 OR AT LEAST BUY RESPECT.
  • 16:59 AND SO I DON'T... TOO MANY AMERICANS, NOT ALL OF US OF COURSE,
  • 17:02 BUT TOO MANY AMERICANS DON'T HAVE NO GRASP OF THE SITUATIONS,
  • 17:06 THEY HAVE NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO.
  • 17:08 THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO WAKE UP WITH NOTHING ON THEIR MIND EXCEPT
  • 17:14 "HOW ARE WE GOING TO KILL THE JEWS AND THE AMERICANS AND THE CHRISTIANS."
  • 17:17 AND WE WAKE UP OBSESSED
  • 17:19 ABOUT BRITTANY SPEARS HAIRCUT
  • 17:20 AND ANNA NICOLE'S BABY.
  • 17:22 SO WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
  • 17:23 WE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
  • 17:26 TED'S GOOD PEOPLE, HE'S REGULAR PEOPLE,
  • 17:28 HE'S AN ORDINARY GUY THAT HAD AN EXTRAORDINARY VISION
  • 17:32 AND HE THREW HIS ENERGY BEHIND IT.
  • 17:34 NOW HE TRAVELS AS A MUSIC MINISTER TEACHING ABOUT JESUS,
  • 17:37 SINGING ABOUT THE JEWS, PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER.
  • 17:39 GREAT GUY ISN'T HE?
  • 17:41 (Sandra speaking) HE IS, IN FACT HIS SISTER-IN-LAW WORKS FOR OUR MINISTRY.
  • 17:44 SO AND IT'S JUST BEEN A REAL BLESSING TO GET TO KNOW BOTH OF THEM.
  • 17:47 I KNEW HIM BEFORE HE WAS ENGAGED IN FULL TIME MUSIC MINISTRY.
  • 17:50 NOW HE'S A RISING STAR IN THE WHOLE MUSIC WORLD. >>HE REALLY IS.
  • 17:53 YOU MENTION TED PEARCE
  • 17:54 AND EVERYBODY LOVES WHAT HE DOES.
  • 17:55 BUT I LIKED HIS INTERVIEW.
  • 17:57 I REALLY LIKE THE POINTS THAT HE MADE ABOUT
  • 17:59 AMERICANS BEING SO CONCERNED WITH CELEBRITIES,
  • 18:02 BEING CONCERNED THAT WE THINK WE CAN BUY ANYTHING IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
  • 18:07 THAT'S OUR PROBLEM.
  • 18:08 AND IF SOME OF THESE INTERVIEWS
  • 18:10 AND SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN
  • 18:12 DOESN'T MAKE PEOPLE STAND UP,
  • 18:14 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO JEFF? >>YEAH
  • 18:16 REALLY, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE
  • 18:18 FOR US TO STAND UP AND SAY THAT'S ENOUGH?
  • 18:20 WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO STAND UP
  • 18:22 AND IT'S GOOD TO HAVE STORIES OF THOSE WHO DO.
  • 18:26 YEAH, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ERGUN CANER WHO ZOLA INTERVIEWED.
  • 18:29 REALLY A SWEET GUY, DEAN OF SEMINARY AT LIBERTY COLLEGE
  • 18:32 AND JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT
  • 18:35 KEN CALLS AGAIN AND SAYS,
  • 18:37 "WE'RE BRINGING A MUSLIM OVER TO INTERVIEW WITH YOU."
  • 18:39 AND IT MAKES YOU PAUSE FOR A MOMENT
  • 18:41 UNTIL HE WALKS IN THE DOOR
  • 18:43 AND HE IS A NEW CREATION
  • 18:46 AND HE LOVES THE LORD
  • 18:47 AND I REALLY, REALLY WANT YOU TO WATCH THIS.
  • 18:51 ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE ATTACKED
  • 18:53 AND NOW WHEN I GO ON A SPEAKING ENGAGEMENT EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW,
  • 18:56 "WHY DO THEY HATE US?",
  • 18:58 "DOES THE KORAN REALLY TEACH THAT THEY SHOULD KILL US?"
  • 19:03 THIS SORT OF QUESTION.
  • 19:04 DR. LEVITT YOU AND I
  • 19:06 BOTH FACE THIS
  • 19:07 WHEREVER WE SPEAK,
  • 19:08 WHENEVER YOU GO IN A PLACE
  • 19:10 AND I GO IN A PLACE
  • 19:12 WE HEAR THIS ON TELEVISION, IN THE NEWS, ON THE RADIO
  • 19:15 THAT WE HEAR THESE APOLOGISTS FOR ISLAM SAYING,
  • 19:18 "JIHAD IS A STRUGGLE."
  • 19:19 "IT MEANS WE ARE PEACE LOVING."
  • 19:21 "ISLAM MEANS PEACE AND SUBMISSION."
  • 19:23 AND IT DOES.
  • 19:24 AND IN AMERICA THE VAST MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS
  • 19:27 ARE HORRIFIED BY WHAT TOOK PLACE.
  • 19:29 BUT THAT'S BECAUSE HERE IN AMERICA JIHAD IS A THEORY.
  • 19:34 THERE'S NEVER BEEN A DECLARED JIHAD BY THE CALIPHATE, BY THE LEADERS HERE IN AMERICA.
  • 19:38 IN EUROPE AND IN ISRAEL AND IN THE ARABIAN PENINSULA,
  • 19:43 IT'S NOT THEORY, ITS LIFE, IT'S WHAT WE LIVE WITH.
  • 19:46 WHAT GETS TO ME IS THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT'S WHAT WE TEACH BUT WE DON'T FOLLOW THAT.
  • 19:52 BUT YOU CANNOT REDACT,
  • 19:53 YOU CANNOT GO BACK AND CHANGE WHAT THE KORAN SAYS.
  • 19:56 AS A YOUNG MAN I WAS IN THE ISLAMIC YOUTH JIHAD
  • 19:59 AS WAS MY BROTHER, AND BOTH OF MY BROTHERS.
  • 20:02 WE WERE IN YOUTH GROUPS THAT WE'RE TAUGHT THESE VERSES OF THE HADITH.
  • 20:07 THE HADITH YOU KEEP MENTIONING IS MUHAMMAD'S SAYINGS?
  • 20:10 MUHAMMAD'S SAYINGS, YES, THE SAYINGS
  • 20:11 ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM SAYS IT'S NARRATED BY SOMEONE
  • 20:15 AND THEN "MUHAMMAD SAID," AND THIS IS THEIR QUOTE.
  • 20:18 I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE DR. LEVITT.
  • 20:22 WHY DON'T YOU CALL ME ZOLA,
  • 20:24 NOBODY CALLS ME DOCTOR LEVITT. (Zola laughing)
  • 20:25 YOU'RE A MAN I'VE WATCHED ON TELEVISION ALL MY LIFE, SO...
  • 20:29 BUT HADITH 950 SAYS,
  • 20:31 "NO ONE CAN BE KILLED FOR KILLING AN INFIDEL."
  • 20:34 HADITH 957 SAYS,
  • 20:36 "IF A MAN CHANGES HIS ISLAMIC RELIGION KILL HIM."
  • 20:40 THAT'S NOT AMBIGUOUS.
  • 20:41 YEAH, IT'S NOT AMBIGUOUS BUT IT'S VERY STRANGE.
  • 20:43 I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER RELIGION THAT SAYS
  • 20:45 IF YOU CONVERT, SOMEWHERE, THEY'LL KILL YOU.
  • 20:47 AND IT'S VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
  • 20:49 THERE IS IN THE KORAN A REDACTION.
  • 20:52 THEY WOULD SAY ABRAHAM WAS NOT A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN BUT WAS A GOOD MUSLIM.
  • 20:55 I MEAN THAT IS A QUOTE IN THE KORAN.
  • 20:56 I'VE HEARD IT.
  • 20:58 AND SO THERE IS A REDACTION
  • 20:59 BUT FOR NOW FOR THESE MEN TO COME ON TELEVISION AND SAY,
  • 21:02 "WE DON'T BELIEVE IN JIHAD."
  • 21:04 "JIHAD IS NOT THAT"
  • 21:06 "THAT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING."
  • 21:07 TO ME THAT'S DISINGENUOUS.
  • 21:10 IS IT REALLY A HOLY WAR TO SNEAK IN AND BOMB PEOPLE EATING PIZZA,
  • 21:15 THIS KIND OF VERY CHEAP....?
  • 21:18 THE ACT OF JIHAD ARE IN THEOLOGICAL TERMS THEY'RE HIERARCHIALISTS.
  • 21:23 THEY BELIEVE THAT THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS.
  • 21:26 AND SO TO KILL INNOCENTS,
  • 21:28 THE BLURRING OF THE LINE EVEN HERE IN AMERICA IS NOW....
  • 21:30 THERE ARE NO CIVILIANS ANYMORE, WE ARE ALL SOLDIERS.
  • 21:33 AND IN JIHAD THAT'S THE TEACHING.
  • 21:34 IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ERGUN.
  • 21:36 THOSE CHILDREN IN A PIZZA EATING THEIR PIZZA THERE
  • 21:38 IN THE QUADRANT OF THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM,
  • 21:42 THEY ARE PART OF THE STRUGGLE.
  • 21:44 EITHER THEY ARE AGAINST US OR THEY ARE WITH US.
  • 21:46 MUSLIMS WHO DIED IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER
  • 21:48 WHO WERE IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER ITSELF,
  • 21:50 THEY BELIEVED THEY DIED AS MARTYRS AS WELL.
  • 21:52 AND SO EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE CIVILIANS, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT,
  • 21:56 PERHAPS EVEN NOMINAL MUSLIMS,
  • 21:57 THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE IMMEDIATELY TRANSLATED INTO PARADISE.
  • 22:00 THE PROMISE WAS THIS...
  • 22:02 THE PROMISE IN THE KORAN,
  • 22:04 THE PROMISE IN THE HADITH IS THE TEACHING THAT
  • 22:06 IF YOU DIE AS A MARTYR IN AN ACT OF JIHAD AL-ASGHAR,
  • 22:09 IN AN ACT OF DECLARED JIHAD
  • 22:12 YOU ARE FORGIVEN.
  • 22:14 ALL THE SCALES ON THE LEFT SHOULDER ARE ERASED
  • 22:16 AND ALL YOUR BAD DEEDS ARE FORGOTTEN
  • 22:18 AND YOU ARE TRANSLATED TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF PARADISE.
  • 22:21 AND SO THE PROMISE WAS MADE.
  • 22:23 MOHAMED ATTA AND THE REST OF THEM...
  • 22:25 THAT'S THE TERRORIST THAT FLEW THE AIRPLANE INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
  • 22:28 YES SIR, YES SIR.
  • 22:30 THEY WERE PROMISED IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS
  • 22:32 AND TRANSLATION TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ALLAH'S ABODE
  • 22:35 WHICH THEY CALL PARADISE.
  • 22:37 JIHAD IS A VERY ARTICULAR ACT.
  • 22:40 THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC RULES.
  • 22:42 YEAH, TELL ME THE 3 LEVELS OF THE JIHAD.
  • 22:44 THIS IS THE ARAB WAR SO TO SPEAK.
  • 22:46 THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE WEBSITES AND FIND THE GUIDES
  • 22:51 THAT WERE WRITTEN IN LETTERS WRITTEN TO THE TERRORISTS
  • 22:53 BEFORE THEY WENT INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER OF WHAT THEY HAD...
  • 22:55 THE STEPS THEY HAD TO FOLLOW BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GOT ON THE PLANE.
  • 22:59 ACTS OF SHAVING, ACTS OF ABLUTION AND WASHING AND ACTS OF PUTTING ON COLOGNE
  • 23:04 AND THEY'RE ACTS THAT YOU MUST GO THROUGH.
  • 23:06 JIHAD IS VERY SPECIFIC.
  • 23:08 THERE ARE 3 LEVELS TO JIHAD,
  • 23:11 OR 3 ACTS OF JIHAD
  • 23:13 THAT ARE EXTRAPOLATED IN THE HADITH AND IN THE KORAN.
  • 23:16 THE FIRST ACT IS THAT ACT OF SHOCK,
  • 23:19 AN ACT THAT TAKES THE INFIDEL AND SHAKES HIM OUT OF HIS COMFORT ZONE WHICH....
  • 23:25 THEY SURE ACCOMPLISHED THAT AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
  • 23:28 ABSOLUTELY, HOW MUCH MORE CAN THEY SHOCK US?
  • 23:30 THE 2ND ACT, HOWEVER, IS WHEN JIHAD IS DESCRIBED IN TERMS
  • 23:33 OF AN ACT OF VULNERABILITY,
  • 23:37 TO SHOW US THAT AS MUCH AS YOU PROTECT YOURSELF YOU ARE NOW VULNERABLE,
  • 23:41 YOU ARE STILL SUSCEPTIBLE TO ATTACK.
  • 23:44 AND SO A 2ND ACT OF JIHAD MAY NOT BE HERE IN AMERICA.
  • 23:47 IT MAY BE EMBASSIES, IT MAY BE IN ENGLAND
  • 23:49 BUT SOMETHING THAT WHERE WE ARE THINKING THAT WE ARE PROTECTING OURSELVES
  • 23:53 AND SECURE AND YET THE ACT CUTS TO THE HEART OF IT.
  • 23:57 THE 3RD ACT OF JIHAD IS AN ACT OF HUMILIATION.
  • 24:00 IT IS SUPPOSED TO EMASCULATE THE PEOPLE
  • 24:03 AND IN SO DOING IT CUTS US OFF AT OUR KNEES.
  • 24:07 IT MAKES US THE WEAKER VESSEL AND THUS WE'RE OVERTAKEN.
  • 24:11 THAT'S THE WAY JIHAD IS TRADITIONALLY TAUGHT.
  • 24:13 IF WE HAD NOT ACTED SWIFTLY AS A COUNTRY,
  • 24:17 IF WE HAD NOT ACTED SWIFTLY AND LOUDLY
  • 24:20 AND OUR PRESIDENT GOING ON TELEVISION AND SAYING,
  • 24:22 "THIS IS WAR."
  • 24:23 "THIS WAS AN ACT OF WAR."
  • 24:25 IF WE HAD NOT THEN WE WOULD HAVE BEEN PERCEIVED AS WEAK.
  • 24:27 AND IN THAT PERCEPTION THEY WOULD HAVE DONE MUCH WORSE.
  • 24:29 THE RESPONSE WOULD BE MUCH WORSE
  • 24:31 BECAUSE A WEAK ENEMY IS TO BE OVERTAKEN.
  • 24:34 A STRONG ENEMY IS TO BE ENGAGED.
  • 24:36 BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE FIGHTING THIS STRUGGLE,
  • 24:39 THE JIHAD, TO THEM ANYTHING IS JUSTIFIED IN THE ACT OF FIGHTING ALLAH'S GLORIOUS CAUSE.
  • 24:46 AND YOU LISTEN BIN LADEN GOES ON THE TAPE
  • 24:48 HE IS PRAISING THOSE MEN, CALLS THEM MARTYRS, WHO DID THIS HEINOUS ACT.
  • 24:55 BECAUSE TO THEM THE END,
  • 24:56 WHICH IS THE PURPOSE OF WINNING ALLAH'S LAND BACK IN THE CASE OF JERUSALEM
  • 25:01 OR TO FIGHTING AGAINST THE SATAN WHICH IS THE PURPOSE HERE IN AMERICA,
  • 25:05 THAT'S THE ULTIMATE END.
  • 25:07 AND SO THE INDIVIDUAL ISN'T IMPORTANT,
  • 25:08 THE CORPORATE AIM IS THAT WHICH IS SUPREME.
  • 25:11 DR. CANER IS A GREAT GUY AND HE REMINDS ME THAT THE LORD GETS INTO PEOPLE'S HEARTS
  • 25:15 NO MATTER THEIR BACKGROUND, ISLAMIC, HINDU, WHATEVER
  • 25:19 AND GOD CAN CHANGE PEOPLE AND BRING US TOGETHER AS A PEOPLE OF ONE.
  • 25:24 WELL, AN UNBELIEVER BECOMES A BELIEVER, THEIR HEARTS CHANGE.
  • 25:27 PAUL SAYS WE ARE A NEW CREATION.
  • 25:29 AND WE ARE A NEW CREATION.
  • 25:31 THAT'S WHAT SO INTERESTING ABOUT ERGUN CANER
  • 25:33 WAS THAT HE WALKS IN THE DOOR AND HE IS A NEW CREATION.
  • 25:36 AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN HIS FACE,
  • 25:38 HIS DEMEANOR IS WONDERFUL.
  • 25:39 RIGHT AND I BELIEVE THAT HE CARRIES WITHIN HIS HEART
  • 25:41 THE ANSWER FOR THE WORLD. >>RIGHT
  • 25:43 AND THAT IS TO BE BORN ANEW,
  • 25:45 TO BE RE-CREATED, TO BECOME A NEW CREATURE IN GOD'S MESSIAH, JESUS.
  • 25:49 ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEACE.
  • 25:51 HEBREW IS SHALOM,
  • 25:54 ISLAM IS NOT... MEANS PEACE, IT MEANS SUBMISSION,
  • 25:58 BUT THEY ALSO SAY "SALAM" WHICH MEANS PEACE.
  • 26:01 RIGHT IF YOU'RE NOT FROM THE CULTURE AND DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE,
  • 26:04 THEY SOUND ALIKE.
  • 26:05 PEOPLE THINK THAT ISLAM'S THE RELIGION OF PEACE.
  • 26:07 AND I SAY, YES, THEY WANT TO HAVE A PIECE IN THIS
  • 26:09 AND A PIECE OF THAT COUNTRY AND A PIECE OF THIS
  • 26:10 AND ONCE THEY HAVE ALL THE PIECES
  • 26:12 THEN THERE'LL BE PEACE ON EARTH CAUSE THEY HAVE THE PUZZLE.
  • 26:15 BUT THAT IS THEIR AGENDA.
  • 26:16 THEY MAKE NO APOLOGIES FOR IT.
  • 26:18 THEY ARE VERY OPEN AND SAY,
  • 26:20 "WE WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO BE ISLAMIC,"
  • 26:23 "EITHER BY THE SWORD OR ANY OTHER WAY WE CAN TAKE IT."
  • 26:26 THEIR GOING TO DO IT.
  • 26:27 RIGHT AND I WANT THE WORLD TO HAVE PEACE BY THE SWORD
  • 26:29 AND IT'S THE SWORD OF SPIRIT THAT'S THE WORD OF GOD
  • 26:31 THAT PIERCES HEARTS AND INVITES PEOPLE TO BE TRANSFORMED IN JESUS NAME.
  • 26:35 AND ISN'T THAT WHAT WE WANT FOR ANYONE THAT'S LISTENING TO US?
  • 26:37 GOD BLESS YOU AND
  • 26:39 "SHA' ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM"
  • 26:40 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.
  • 26:44 OUR OFFER ON THIS PROGRAM;

Episodes in this series

  1. When Darkness Once Prevailed
  2. Out of the Darkness
  3. Dark Night of the Soul
  4. Bright Lights in a Darkened World
  5. The Darkness That Nearly Engulfed Us
  6. Letting the Sun Shine
  7. A Star That Breaks Through the Darkness
  8. Heavenly Light From Hellish Darkness

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