
“The Darkness That Nearly Engulfed Us”
Jeff teaches from the German site where Hitler nearly succeeded in developing an atomic bomb. Zola interviews Dr. Ergun Caner, an Arab-Christian who shares his insights on Islam.
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Caption transcript for Bad Moon Rising: “The Darkness That Nearly Engulfed Us” (5/8)
- 00:04 WITH DR. JEFFREY SEIF AND SANDRA LEVITT
- 00:11 AS DARK CLOUDS OMINOUSLY LOOM OVER THE HORIZON
- 00:14 RADICAL MUSLIMS CHARGE THE ATMOSPHERE
- 00:18 WITH BRAZEN DISREGARD.
- 00:20 AS THE SUN SETS OVER CHRISTIAN EUROPE
- 00:23 SLEEPING CHRISTIANS NEED TO WAKE UP
- 00:26 NON-CHRISTIANS NEED TO GET UP
- 00:28 AND MODERATE MUSLIMS NEED TO RISE UP.
- 00:42 HEARTY SHALOM TO ALL OF YOU.
- 00:44 JEFFREY SEIF HERE,
- 00:45 WITH MY FRIEND SANDRA LEVITT.
- 00:46 SHALOM
- 00:47 AND WELCOME BACK TO "BAD MOON RISING"
- 00:49 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVIL,
- 00:51 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT WAYS
- 00:53 THAT EVIL PRESENTS ITSELF IN THE WORLD.
- 00:55 WE'VE LOOKED AT THE HOLOCAUST.
- 00:56 WE'RE STILL GOING TO LOOK AT THE HOLOCAUST.
- 00:58 IN FACT, JEFF YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO A PLACE
- 01:00 THEY ALMOST GOT THE ATOM READY.
- 01:03 DEEP UNDERGROUND STEALTHILY THEY WERE WORKING ON THE ATOM BOMB.
- 01:08 I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THEY REALLY HAD DEVELOPED THAT ATOM BOMB?
- 01:12 THANK GOD THAT AMERICANS GOT INVOLVED IN THE EUROPEAN SITUATION
- 01:15 OR IT WOULD HAVE ALL COME UNGLUED.
- 01:18 YOU HAVE TO REALLY STOP AND THINK,
- 01:20 "WHAT WOULD THE WORLD HAVE LOOKED LIKE IF GERMANY HAD WON?"
- 01:23 WELL, THERE WOULDN'T BE JEWS TO LOOK AT.
- 01:25 ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS WOULDN'T BE PRESENTING.
- 01:27 THAT'S RIGHT BUT I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE HERE.
- 01:30 IT WOULD HAVE KILLED US ALL OFF.
- 01:32 SO WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?
- 01:34 WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS WHOLE PROGRAM, THIS WHOLE SERIES?
- 01:36 WHAT IS THE PURPOSE?
- 01:37 WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE BIBLE.
- 01:39 WE WANT TO LOOK AT HISTORY.
- 01:40 WE WANT TO PUT THE TWO TOGETHER
- 01:41 AND LET THE WORLD KNOW THAT INASMUCH
- 01:43 AS THE DEVIL WAS WORKING THROUGH THE NAZIS IN A BYGONE ERA,
- 01:47 THAT WICKEDNESS IS RAISING ITS HOARY HEAD IN ANOTHER FORM.
- 01:51 WE'LL BRING THE TWO TOGETHER FOR YOU IN A MOMENT.
- 02:02 (Jeff speaking) HAIGERLOCH IS ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TOWNS I'VE EVER BEEN TO.
- 02:08 SITUATED ON THE EDGE OF THE BLACK FOREST
- 02:11 IT IS JUST A TOWN THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, ITS PRIVATE, ITS SECLUDED.
- 02:17 ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE TOWN IS A BEAUTIFUL CASTLE THAT WAS OWNED BY THE HABSBURG
- 02:23 AND IT WAS PAST AROUND A FEW TIMES.
- 02:25 AND THERE ATTACHED TO THE CASTLE AS IS WAS THE HABIT IS THE PLACEMENT OF A CHURCH,
- 02:32 A CHURCH DEDICATED TO SAINT ANNE.
- 02:34 A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, A BEAUTIFUL CASTLE, A BEAUTIFUL CHURCH.
- 02:41 YOU KNOW THERE'S A TRADITION OF PLACING BEAUTIFUL RELICS BENEATH CHURCHES
- 02:46 DEDICATING THEN THE COMMUNION ALTAR TO A PARTICULAR MEMORY OF A PARTICULAR PERSON THAT DEDICATED THE CHURCH.
- 02:54 NOW WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS CHURCH IN THIS TOWN
- 02:58 IS THAT THE NAZIS UNDER THIS CHURCH AND UNDER THAT ALTAR
- 03:04 DUG DEEP AND DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH IT.
- 03:09 THEY MANUFACTURED A FACILITY TO SPLIT THE ATOM
- 03:14 AND THROW THE THIRD REICH THEN INTO THE ATOMIC AGE.
- 03:20 AND THEY CAME EVER SO CLOSE.
- 03:23 AS STUDENTS OF HISTORY MIGHT RECALL
- 03:26 THE RACE WAS ON AS WORLD WAR II WAS PRESSING TO A CONCLUSION HERE ON THE EUROPEAN THEATRE.
- 03:35 THE NAZIS CAME THIS CLOSE
- 03:38 AND AT THIS PLACE THEY WERE EXPERIMENTING DOWN HERE
- 03:45 WITH THE SPLITTING OF THE ATOM, THE ENRICHMENT OF URANIUM.
- 03:49 I DON'T WANT TO TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.
- 03:51 I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THAT FIELD.
- 03:53 BUT THERE ARE EXPERTS THAT HAVE COME AND STUDIED HERE AND WRITTEN ON THE SUBJECT.
- 03:57 THIS IS THE PLACE
- 03:59 AND THE FACT THAT THEY DID IT RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE CHURCH
- 04:03 FOR ME IS STRIKING FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
- 04:07 IT'S DEMONIC.
- 04:09 AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU'LL PERMIT ME TO MUSE SOME,
- 04:13 THE NAZIS CAME THIS CLOSE TO AN ATOM BOMB.
- 04:17 THEY CAME THIS CLOSE TO THE V-2 ROCKET
- 04:20 BY WHICH THEY COULD THEN LAUNCH THEIR UNCONVENTIONAL WEAPONS WITHOUT NEEDING TO SEND AIRCRAFT.
- 04:27 THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DECISIVE IN THE WAR.
- 04:29 AND THEY CAME THIS CLOSE; THEY ALREADY HAD JETS IN THE AIR.
- 04:33 YOU KNOW, WE WON THAT WAR AND THANK GOD THAT WE DID
- 04:36 AND AS A JEW I DO MEAN THAT SINCERELY.
- 04:38 NEVER MIND ME BEING AN AMERICAN ON TOP.
- 04:41 THE TECHNOLOGY WAS ESCALATING UP
- 04:44 AND THANK GOD WE GOT IT BY THE GRACE OF GOD JUST BEFORE IT WAS TOO LATE.
- 04:49 AND ITS HERE IN THIS PLACE UNDER A CHURCH
- 04:54 IN WHAT'S ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL VILLAGES THAT I'VE EVER BEEN TO,
- 04:59 AND I'VE BEEN TO MORE THAN ONE VILLAGE.
- 05:01 IT'S SO QUAINT, IT'S SO QUITE, IT'S SO UNKNOWN
- 05:05 AND IT'S FOR THIS REASON THAT THE NAZIS WANTED TO OBSCURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING,
- 05:11 DECIDED TO PUT FINALITY TO THEIR EXPERIMENTS ON SPLITTING THE ATOM HERE
- 05:16 AND THEN TRANSFERRING THE KNOWLEDGE FROM IT TO A RESEARCH FACILITY,
- 05:21 THE MODEL OF WHICH IS HERE.
- 05:23 ALL WITH AN AIM TO WIN THE RACE TO GET AN ATOM BOMB OUT.
- 05:29 WHILE REFLECTING ON HOW FORTUNATE WE WERE TO STOP A CULTURE, A BELLICOSE CULTURE,
- 05:38 A MILITANT CULTURE DRIVEN BY A DEMON INSPIRED PHILOSOPHY.
- 05:43 AS CLOSE AS WE WERE BACK THEN TO PUTTING A HALT TO THEIR INTERESTS IN FORMIDABLE WEAPONS,
- 05:52 THIS, BY THE WAY, REMINDS ME AT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF WHERE WE ARE AT THIS VERY DAY.
- 05:59 AND NOW I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE AN ALARMIST
- 06:01 BUT I DO WANT TO INFORM THAT WE DO WELL TO BE ALARMED.
- 06:06 AND I'M NOT SPEAKING ON MY OWN AUTHORITY IN MAKING THAT POINT.
- 06:12 WHEN I THINK OF AUTHORITIES
- 06:14 I'M REMINDED OF HOW BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, A FORMER ISRAELI AMBASSADOR, UNITED NATIONS,
- 06:19 A FORMER PRIME MINISTER THERE IN THE NATION STATE OF ISRAEL
- 06:24 WARNED NOT LONG AGO...I HEARD HIM ON TV, OUR FILM CREW WENT THERE AND GOT THE SHOT IN FACT
- 06:29 WHERE HE SAID, "LISTEN, MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD IN IRAN"
- 06:34 "IS THREATENING TO DO IN 12 MINUTES WHAT HITLER COULDN'T DO IN 12 YEARS."
- 06:45 THAT IS TO SAY, WITH HIS GEARING UP WITH NUCLEAR ARMAMENT
- 06:51 THAT HE CAN DO BY PUSHING A BUTTON
- 06:53 WHAT HITLER COULDN'T DO WITH ALL THE BUTTONS HE PUSHED
- 06:56 AND FAVORS HE CALLED UPON AS HE WAS DEVELOPING HIS WAR MACHINERY HERE IN NAZI EUROPE.
- 07:07 IT WAS POSSIBLE
- 07:09 AND THE ONLY COMPARISON THAT WE CAN MAKE
- 07:12 OF THIS DANGER OF THIS TERRORIST FANATIC MENTALITY
- 07:16 ACQUIRING WEAPONS OF DEATH,
- 07:17 IS THE ATTEMPT 60 YEARS AGO BY HITLER AND NAZISM TO ACQUIRE ATOMIC WEAPONS.
- 07:23 AND YOU KNOW THAT HISTORY WOULD HAVE TAKEN A FAR DIFFERENT COURSE IF THAT HAPPENED.
- 07:26 SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MUST BE STOPPED.
- 07:28 THE ATTEMPT OF IRAN TO ARM ITSELF WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS,
- 07:31 THE FACT THAT IT DENIES THE HOLOCAUST, CAN YOU IMAGINE?
- 07:35 WHILE THEY'RE ANNOUNCING THAT THEY'LL MAKE A NEW HOLOCAUST
- 07:38 THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY'RE DENYING THE PREVIOUS HOLOCAUST
- 07:42 BECAUSE THEY'D LIKE TO PAVE THE GROUND FOR A NEW ONE.
- 07:45 AND I THINK THIS IS A VERY GREAT DANGER FOR ALL OF US.
- 07:50 IT IS TERROR MULTIPLIED TO THE NTH DEGREE.
- 07:53 IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE STOPPED.
- 08:14 THE WONDER
- 08:20 THE BEAUTY
- 08:26 THE SOUL OF THE HOLY LAND
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- 09:14 I THINK THERE'S REASON TO BE ALARMED
- 09:16 AND ITS NOT THAT I WANT TO BE AN ALARMIST.
- 09:21 AT ISSUE ISN'T SO MUCH THE FACT THAT THERE'S A NATION STATE THAT HAS NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES.
- 09:27 GOD KNOWS THERE ARE NATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY COME CLEAN WITH THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAMS.
- 09:31 THE ISSUE ISN'T AN IRANIAN STATE AS ANY STATE HAVING PROGRAM
- 09:36 AS MUCH AS THE FACT THAT THIS PROGRAM IS IN THE HANDS OF AN INDIVIDUAL AND OF A REGIME
- 09:42 THAT'S HELL BENT WITH THEIR OWN VOCABULARY IN DECIMATING ISRAEL.
- 09:47 AND THE FACT THAT THEIR GIVEN TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL
- 09:51 TO ME IS STRIKING AND THEY'RE TOO FAR AWAY TO DO IT CONVENTIONALLY,
- 09:54 NEVER MIND THE FACT THAT OTHER ISLAMIC STATES ROUND ABOUT HAVE TRIED ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION
- 10:00 SINCE THE FOUNDING OF THE FLEDGLING STATE IN THE LATE 40'S.
- 10:05 ALL TO NO AVAIL.
- 10:07 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND THE PUSHING OF A BUTTON
- 10:11 SOMEONE CAN DO SOMETHING,
- 10:13 ANNIHILATE A NATION STATE.
- 10:16 NOW THERE IS REASON FOR CONCERN.
- 10:20 NOT JUST BECAUSE A NATION STATE HAS THAT CAPABILITY
- 10:24 BUT BECAUSE THAT VERY SAME NATION STATE HAS EXPRESSED THEIR OWN INTENTION
- 10:29 AS A CORE VALUE, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S MARGINAL, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PERIPHERAL
- 10:33 BUT A CORE VALUE BEING TO QUOTE, "DRIVE ISRAEL INTO THE SEA."
- 10:38 AND THE FACT THAT THIS CORE VALUE IS ATTACHED TO A PHILOSOPHICAL PERSPECTIVE
- 10:44 THAT RESONATES DEEPLY IS CAUSE FOR CONCERN AS WELL.
- 10:48 AND BY THAT I MEAN, IF ONE LOOKS AT THE SHIITE PROGRAM IT IS IN PART FUELED BY....
- 10:56 NEVER MIND A NUCLEAR OR ATOMIC REACTOR.
- 11:00 THE REACTOR, THE DRIVER BENEATH THIS INTEREST IN THE NUCLEAR AGE,
- 11:07 THE DRIVER IS AN ESCHATOLOGY, IT'S A SENSE OF A LAST DAYS' PURPOSE FOR AN ISLAMIC REGIME
- 11:14 TO MAKE ITS ENTRANCE ONTO THE STAGE OF THE HUMAN DRAMA.
- 11:18 AND THERE'S MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD THAT HAS GIVEN IN HIS OWN ESTIMATION
- 11:22 TO BEING THE JOHN THE BAPTIST OF THE NEW ISLAMIC WORLD ORDER,
- 11:27 A HARBINGER OF IMAM WHOSE GOING TO ARISE FROM HISTORY AND BE IN EFFECT THE ISLAMIC MESSIAH.
- 11:36 AND THERE ARE PORTENTS OF BAD THINGS TO COME IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT
- 11:40 OF A WORLD GONE BAD, A WORLD AT WAR.
- 11:43 AND A NUCLEAR PROGRAM SEEMS TO FACTOR INTO THAT.
- 11:49 NOW, AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING LIKE AN ALARMIST SPEAKING TO INDIVIDUALS
- 11:53 THAT WATCH THIS PROGRAM IN AMERICA, EUROPE, THE MIDDLE EAST AND ELSEWHERE,
- 11:59 MY QUESTION IS, "IS IT UNREASONABLE TO BE CONCERNED?".
- 12:05 IS IT UNREASONABLE TO THINK WE NEED TO PUT A STOP TO THAT?
- 12:10 AND I WANT TO RAISE THAT QUESTION HERE IN PART,
- 12:12 BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE PLACE WHERE THE NAZIS CAME EVER SO CLOSE TO DOING THAT VERY THING
- 12:19 AND THANK GOD THAT WE NIPPED IT IN THE BUD.
- 12:25 NOW MY QUESTION IS, DO WE DO WELL TO BE ABLE AT SOME POINT IN TIME SAY,
- 12:29 "THANK GOD THAT WE DEVELOPED A MECHANISM TO DECISIVELY DEAL WITH THE IRANIAN THREAT."
- 12:37 OR DO WE LET IT JUST ESCALATE UP UNCHALLENGED AND THEN DEAL WITH THE RESULTS
- 12:43 WHEN THE BUTTONS GET PUSHED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE LOOKING A NUCLEAR RAIN?
- 12:48 AGAIN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THE PHYSICAL SCIENCES,
- 12:51 I'M A BIBLE TEACHER AND AGAINST THAT BACKDROP
- 12:54 WHAT I WANT TO DO IS BRING OUT A BIBLICAL MESSAGE NOT TO BE OVERLY PROPHETIC,
- 13:00 I DON'T LAY SIEGE TO THE CLAIM THAT I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY, PRECISELY HOW EVERYTHING PLAYS OUT.
- 13:05 BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS BIBLICAL TEXT
- 13:10 THAT LENDS CREDENCE TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF A WORLD ABLAZE IN FIRE.
- 13:16 AND IT SEEMS MORE THAN JUST CONVENTIONAL FIRE AND AT LEAST RAISES THE POSSIBILITY,
- 13:21 AND I'M NOT ALONE IN RAISING IT,
- 13:23 THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE PROPHETICALLY AND PATHETICALLY IN THE LITERATURE
- 13:28 IS ATTESTATIONS TO A WORLD GONE BAD, A WORLD SET ABLAZE WITH UNCONVENTIONAL WEAPONS.
- 13:35 AND THE REASON WHY I MENTION THAT IS IF ONE LOOKS IN EZEKIEL,
- 13:39 CHAPTER 38 IN VERSE 19, GOD SAYS,
- 13:50 NOW HE SPEAKS OF THE FIRE OF HIS WRATH AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LEAP TO TALKING ABOUT FIRE
- 13:56 AS BEING GOD'S JUDGMENT AS IN NUCLEAR BASED ON THAT VERSE.
- 14:00 IT'S WHAT FOLLOWS IT THAT TO ME IS RATHER STRIKING.
- 14:03 HE SAYS, AND I QUOTE,
- 14:28 LET'S EXPLORE THAT IN A MINUTE WHEN I COME BACK I WANT TO DO JUST THAT.
- 14:44 THAT'S JEFF IN THE ATOM KELLER.
- 14:46 WE WILL LOOK AT JEFF NEXT WEEK, SAME PLACE,
- 14:48 TALKING ABOUT EZEKIEL CONTINUING THE TEACHING IN EZEKIEL.
- 14:52 IT IS AMAZING TO ME HOW CLOSE THE GERMANS CAME TO GETTING AN ATOM BOMB.
- 14:57 IT JUST SIMPLY AMAZES ME.
- 14:59 THE TEACHING WAS WONDERFUL,
- 15:01 TO SEE THE CHURCH AND TO SEE THE ATOM KELLER UNDERNEATH
- 15:03 WAS JUST INCREDIBLE,
- 15:05 THE BEAUTY AND THEN THE EVIL UNDERNEATH, AMAZING TO ME.
- 15:07 THE CONTRAST IS STRIKING.
- 15:10 AND OUR VIEWERS AFFORD US THE OPPORTUNITY
- 15:13 TO GO PLACES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T GO. >>YEAH
- 15:16 TO TEACH THE BIBLE, TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE IN WORLD AND PUT IT ALL TOGETHER.
- 15:19 I DON'T THAT WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT ANY OTHER PLACE.
- 15:22 I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER SEEN ANY KIND OF FOOTAGE ON THAT.
- 15:24 AND THAT REALLY WAS AN EDUCATION FOR ME
- 15:27 TO SEE ALL THE GOINGS ON,
- 15:29 THE MACHINATIONS OF THE WORKINGS OF AN ATOM BOMB.
- 15:32 LIKE YOU SAID ON THE FRONT END,
- 15:34 "THANK GOD THAT WE WERE THERE AS AMERICANS" THAT IS. >>RIGHT, RIGHT
- 15:37 BECAUSE HAD WE'D BEEN SLUGGISH
- 15:39 AND NOT GOTTEN INTO THE GAME
- 15:41 THEN THE WORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN MARKEDLY DIFFERENT.
- 15:44 THAT'S RIGHT, NOBODY ELSE CAME TO THE AIDE
- 15:46 EXCEPT THE AMERICANS.
- 15:47 I THINK THAT'S JUST AMAZING.
- 15:49 CERTAINLY, EUROPEANS LOOKED AT AMERICA AS REDEEMERS THEN
- 15:51 AND NOW PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE AMBIVALENT.
- 15:53 BUT THEY SHOULDN'T BE.
- 15:54 WE ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE REDEEMERS.
- 15:56 WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE WORLD THE RIGHT PLACE.
- 15:58 AND OTHERS,
- 15:59 THERE'S A SILENT ARMY ALL OVER EUROPE AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.
- 16:04 THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING,
- 16:05 "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND WE'RE GOING TO STAND UP AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK UP."
- 16:08 AND ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IS TED PEARCE.
- 16:10 HE IS A NICE YOUNG MAN, UPCOMING WRITER, SONGWRITER.
- 16:14 HE WENT TO THIS MARCH.
- 16:16 IT CHANGED HIS LIFE.
- 16:18 HERE'S TED.
- 16:21 IN AMERICA I THINK OUR PROBLEM IS THAT WE THINK WE CAN BUY ANYTHING;
- 16:24 HEALING THROUGH PILLS OR WHATEVER.
- 16:27 WE REALLY THINK WE CAN BUY ANYTHING.
- 16:29 AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN DEALING WITH OUR ENEMIES IN THE WORLD
- 16:35 IS WE THINK WE CAN BUY THEM.
- 16:37 AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT MONEY ISN'T EVERYTHING TO EVERYBODY LIKE IT IS TO AMERICANS.
- 16:42 IF I HAD TO GO FOR THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM THAT'S WHAT I'D SAY IT IS.
- 16:45 WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF HATRED THAT'S BEING DIRECTED AT US.
- 16:50 AGAIN, BECAUSE WE THINK WE CAN BUY LOVE
- 16:56 OR AT LEAST BUY RESPECT.
- 16:59 AND SO I DON'T... TOO MANY AMERICANS, NOT ALL OF US OF COURSE,
- 17:02 BUT TOO MANY AMERICANS DON'T HAVE NO GRASP OF THE SITUATIONS,
- 17:06 THEY HAVE NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO.
- 17:08 THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO WAKE UP WITH NOTHING ON THEIR MIND EXCEPT
- 17:14 "HOW ARE WE GOING TO KILL THE JEWS AND THE AMERICANS AND THE CHRISTIANS."
- 17:17 AND WE WAKE UP OBSESSED
- 17:19 ABOUT BRITTANY SPEARS HAIRCUT
- 17:20 AND ANNA NICOLE'S BABY.
- 17:22 SO WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
- 17:23 WE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
- 17:26 TED'S GOOD PEOPLE, HE'S REGULAR PEOPLE,
- 17:28 HE'S AN ORDINARY GUY THAT HAD AN EXTRAORDINARY VISION
- 17:32 AND HE THREW HIS ENERGY BEHIND IT.
- 17:34 NOW HE TRAVELS AS A MUSIC MINISTER TEACHING ABOUT JESUS,
- 17:37 SINGING ABOUT THE JEWS, PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER.
- 17:39 GREAT GUY ISN'T HE?
- 17:41 (Sandra speaking) HE IS, IN FACT HIS SISTER-IN-LAW WORKS FOR OUR MINISTRY.
- 17:44 SO AND IT'S JUST BEEN A REAL BLESSING TO GET TO KNOW BOTH OF THEM.
- 17:47 I KNEW HIM BEFORE HE WAS ENGAGED IN FULL TIME MUSIC MINISTRY.
- 17:50 NOW HE'S A RISING STAR IN THE WHOLE MUSIC WORLD. >>HE REALLY IS.
- 17:53 YOU MENTION TED PEARCE
- 17:54 AND EVERYBODY LOVES WHAT HE DOES.
- 17:55 BUT I LIKED HIS INTERVIEW.
- 17:57 I REALLY LIKE THE POINTS THAT HE MADE ABOUT
- 17:59 AMERICANS BEING SO CONCERNED WITH CELEBRITIES,
- 18:02 BEING CONCERNED THAT WE THINK WE CAN BUY ANYTHING IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
- 18:07 THAT'S OUR PROBLEM.
- 18:08 AND IF SOME OF THESE INTERVIEWS
- 18:10 AND SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN
- 18:12 DOESN'T MAKE PEOPLE STAND UP,
- 18:14 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO JEFF? >>YEAH
- 18:16 REALLY, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE
- 18:18 FOR US TO STAND UP AND SAY THAT'S ENOUGH?
- 18:20 WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO STAND UP
- 18:22 AND IT'S GOOD TO HAVE STORIES OF THOSE WHO DO.
- 18:26 YEAH, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ERGUN CANER WHO ZOLA INTERVIEWED.
- 18:29 REALLY A SWEET GUY, DEAN OF SEMINARY AT LIBERTY COLLEGE
- 18:32 AND JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT
- 18:35 KEN CALLS AGAIN AND SAYS,
- 18:37 "WE'RE BRINGING A MUSLIM OVER TO INTERVIEW WITH YOU."
- 18:39 AND IT MAKES YOU PAUSE FOR A MOMENT
- 18:41 UNTIL HE WALKS IN THE DOOR
- 18:43 AND HE IS A NEW CREATION
- 18:46 AND HE LOVES THE LORD
- 18:47 AND I REALLY, REALLY WANT YOU TO WATCH THIS.
- 18:51 ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE ATTACKED
- 18:53 AND NOW WHEN I GO ON A SPEAKING ENGAGEMENT EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW,
- 18:56 "WHY DO THEY HATE US?",
- 18:58 "DOES THE KORAN REALLY TEACH THAT THEY SHOULD KILL US?"
- 19:03 THIS SORT OF QUESTION.
- 19:04 DR. LEVITT YOU AND I
- 19:06 BOTH FACE THIS
- 19:07 WHEREVER WE SPEAK,
- 19:08 WHENEVER YOU GO IN A PLACE
- 19:10 AND I GO IN A PLACE
- 19:12 WE HEAR THIS ON TELEVISION, IN THE NEWS, ON THE RADIO
- 19:15 THAT WE HEAR THESE APOLOGISTS FOR ISLAM SAYING,
- 19:18 "JIHAD IS A STRUGGLE."
- 19:19 "IT MEANS WE ARE PEACE LOVING."
- 19:21 "ISLAM MEANS PEACE AND SUBMISSION."
- 19:23 AND IT DOES.
- 19:24 AND IN AMERICA THE VAST MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS
- 19:27 ARE HORRIFIED BY WHAT TOOK PLACE.
- 19:29 BUT THAT'S BECAUSE HERE IN AMERICA JIHAD IS A THEORY.
- 19:34 THERE'S NEVER BEEN A DECLARED JIHAD BY THE CALIPHATE, BY THE LEADERS HERE IN AMERICA.
- 19:38 IN EUROPE AND IN ISRAEL AND IN THE ARABIAN PENINSULA,
- 19:43 IT'S NOT THEORY, ITS LIFE, IT'S WHAT WE LIVE WITH.
- 19:46 WHAT GETS TO ME IS THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT'S WHAT WE TEACH BUT WE DON'T FOLLOW THAT.
- 19:52 BUT YOU CANNOT REDACT,
- 19:53 YOU CANNOT GO BACK AND CHANGE WHAT THE KORAN SAYS.
- 19:56 AS A YOUNG MAN I WAS IN THE ISLAMIC YOUTH JIHAD
- 19:59 AS WAS MY BROTHER, AND BOTH OF MY BROTHERS.
- 20:02 WE WERE IN YOUTH GROUPS THAT WE'RE TAUGHT THESE VERSES OF THE HADITH.
- 20:07 THE HADITH YOU KEEP MENTIONING IS MUHAMMAD'S SAYINGS?
- 20:10 MUHAMMAD'S SAYINGS, YES, THE SAYINGS
- 20:11 ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM SAYS IT'S NARRATED BY SOMEONE
- 20:15 AND THEN "MUHAMMAD SAID," AND THIS IS THEIR QUOTE.
- 20:18 I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE DR. LEVITT.
- 20:22 WHY DON'T YOU CALL ME ZOLA,
- 20:24 NOBODY CALLS ME DOCTOR LEVITT. (Zola laughing)
- 20:25 YOU'RE A MAN I'VE WATCHED ON TELEVISION ALL MY LIFE, SO...
- 20:29 BUT HADITH 950 SAYS,
- 20:31 "NO ONE CAN BE KILLED FOR KILLING AN INFIDEL."
- 20:34 HADITH 957 SAYS,
- 20:36 "IF A MAN CHANGES HIS ISLAMIC RELIGION KILL HIM."
- 20:40 THAT'S NOT AMBIGUOUS.
- 20:41 YEAH, IT'S NOT AMBIGUOUS BUT IT'S VERY STRANGE.
- 20:43 I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER RELIGION THAT SAYS
- 20:45 IF YOU CONVERT, SOMEWHERE, THEY'LL KILL YOU.
- 20:47 AND IT'S VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
- 20:49 THERE IS IN THE KORAN A REDACTION.
- 20:52 THEY WOULD SAY ABRAHAM WAS NOT A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN BUT WAS A GOOD MUSLIM.
- 20:55 I MEAN THAT IS A QUOTE IN THE KORAN.
- 20:56 I'VE HEARD IT.
- 20:58 AND SO THERE IS A REDACTION
- 20:59 BUT FOR NOW FOR THESE MEN TO COME ON TELEVISION AND SAY,
- 21:02 "WE DON'T BELIEVE IN JIHAD."
- 21:04 "JIHAD IS NOT THAT"
- 21:06 "THAT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING."
- 21:07 TO ME THAT'S DISINGENUOUS.
- 21:10 IS IT REALLY A HOLY WAR TO SNEAK IN AND BOMB PEOPLE EATING PIZZA,
- 21:15 THIS KIND OF VERY CHEAP....?
- 21:18 THE ACT OF JIHAD ARE IN THEOLOGICAL TERMS THEY'RE HIERARCHIALISTS.
- 21:23 THEY BELIEVE THAT THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS.
- 21:26 AND SO TO KILL INNOCENTS,
- 21:28 THE BLURRING OF THE LINE EVEN HERE IN AMERICA IS NOW....
- 21:30 THERE ARE NO CIVILIANS ANYMORE, WE ARE ALL SOLDIERS.
- 21:33 AND IN JIHAD THAT'S THE TEACHING.
- 21:34 IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ERGUN.
- 21:36 THOSE CHILDREN IN A PIZZA EATING THEIR PIZZA THERE
- 21:38 IN THE QUADRANT OF THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM,
- 21:42 THEY ARE PART OF THE STRUGGLE.
- 21:44 EITHER THEY ARE AGAINST US OR THEY ARE WITH US.
- 21:46 MUSLIMS WHO DIED IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER
- 21:48 WHO WERE IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER ITSELF,
- 21:50 THEY BELIEVED THEY DIED AS MARTYRS AS WELL.
- 21:52 AND SO EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE CIVILIANS, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT,
- 21:56 PERHAPS EVEN NOMINAL MUSLIMS,
- 21:57 THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE IMMEDIATELY TRANSLATED INTO PARADISE.
- 22:00 THE PROMISE WAS THIS...
- 22:02 THE PROMISE IN THE KORAN,
- 22:04 THE PROMISE IN THE HADITH IS THE TEACHING THAT
- 22:06 IF YOU DIE AS A MARTYR IN AN ACT OF JIHAD AL-ASGHAR,
- 22:09 IN AN ACT OF DECLARED JIHAD
- 22:12 YOU ARE FORGIVEN.
- 22:14 ALL THE SCALES ON THE LEFT SHOULDER ARE ERASED
- 22:16 AND ALL YOUR BAD DEEDS ARE FORGOTTEN
- 22:18 AND YOU ARE TRANSLATED TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF PARADISE.
- 22:21 AND SO THE PROMISE WAS MADE.
- 22:23 MOHAMED ATTA AND THE REST OF THEM...
- 22:25 THAT'S THE TERRORIST THAT FLEW THE AIRPLANE INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
- 22:28 YES SIR, YES SIR.
- 22:30 THEY WERE PROMISED IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS
- 22:32 AND TRANSLATION TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ALLAH'S ABODE
- 22:35 WHICH THEY CALL PARADISE.
- 22:37 JIHAD IS A VERY ARTICULAR ACT.
- 22:40 THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC RULES.
- 22:42 YEAH, TELL ME THE 3 LEVELS OF THE JIHAD.
- 22:44 THIS IS THE ARAB WAR SO TO SPEAK.
- 22:46 THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE WEBSITES AND FIND THE GUIDES
- 22:51 THAT WERE WRITTEN IN LETTERS WRITTEN TO THE TERRORISTS
- 22:53 BEFORE THEY WENT INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER OF WHAT THEY HAD...
- 22:55 THE STEPS THEY HAD TO FOLLOW BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY GOT ON THE PLANE.
- 22:59 ACTS OF SHAVING, ACTS OF ABLUTION AND WASHING AND ACTS OF PUTTING ON COLOGNE
- 23:04 AND THEY'RE ACTS THAT YOU MUST GO THROUGH.
- 23:06 JIHAD IS VERY SPECIFIC.
- 23:08 THERE ARE 3 LEVELS TO JIHAD,
- 23:11 OR 3 ACTS OF JIHAD
- 23:13 THAT ARE EXTRAPOLATED IN THE HADITH AND IN THE KORAN.
- 23:16 THE FIRST ACT IS THAT ACT OF SHOCK,
- 23:19 AN ACT THAT TAKES THE INFIDEL AND SHAKES HIM OUT OF HIS COMFORT ZONE WHICH....
- 23:25 THEY SURE ACCOMPLISHED THAT AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
- 23:28 ABSOLUTELY, HOW MUCH MORE CAN THEY SHOCK US?
- 23:30 THE 2ND ACT, HOWEVER, IS WHEN JIHAD IS DESCRIBED IN TERMS
- 23:33 OF AN ACT OF VULNERABILITY,
- 23:37 TO SHOW US THAT AS MUCH AS YOU PROTECT YOURSELF YOU ARE NOW VULNERABLE,
- 23:41 YOU ARE STILL SUSCEPTIBLE TO ATTACK.
- 23:44 AND SO A 2ND ACT OF JIHAD MAY NOT BE HERE IN AMERICA.
- 23:47 IT MAY BE EMBASSIES, IT MAY BE IN ENGLAND
- 23:49 BUT SOMETHING THAT WHERE WE ARE THINKING THAT WE ARE PROTECTING OURSELVES
- 23:53 AND SECURE AND YET THE ACT CUTS TO THE HEART OF IT.
- 23:57 THE 3RD ACT OF JIHAD IS AN ACT OF HUMILIATION.
- 24:00 IT IS SUPPOSED TO EMASCULATE THE PEOPLE
- 24:03 AND IN SO DOING IT CUTS US OFF AT OUR KNEES.
- 24:07 IT MAKES US THE WEAKER VESSEL AND THUS WE'RE OVERTAKEN.
- 24:11 THAT'S THE WAY JIHAD IS TRADITIONALLY TAUGHT.
- 24:13 IF WE HAD NOT ACTED SWIFTLY AS A COUNTRY,
- 24:17 IF WE HAD NOT ACTED SWIFTLY AND LOUDLY
- 24:20 AND OUR PRESIDENT GOING ON TELEVISION AND SAYING,
- 24:22 "THIS IS WAR."
- 24:23 "THIS WAS AN ACT OF WAR."
- 24:25 IF WE HAD NOT THEN WE WOULD HAVE BEEN PERCEIVED AS WEAK.
- 24:27 AND IN THAT PERCEPTION THEY WOULD HAVE DONE MUCH WORSE.
- 24:29 THE RESPONSE WOULD BE MUCH WORSE
- 24:31 BECAUSE A WEAK ENEMY IS TO BE OVERTAKEN.
- 24:34 A STRONG ENEMY IS TO BE ENGAGED.
- 24:36 BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE FIGHTING THIS STRUGGLE,
- 24:39 THE JIHAD, TO THEM ANYTHING IS JUSTIFIED IN THE ACT OF FIGHTING ALLAH'S GLORIOUS CAUSE.
- 24:46 AND YOU LISTEN BIN LADEN GOES ON THE TAPE
- 24:48 HE IS PRAISING THOSE MEN, CALLS THEM MARTYRS, WHO DID THIS HEINOUS ACT.
- 24:55 BECAUSE TO THEM THE END,
- 24:56 WHICH IS THE PURPOSE OF WINNING ALLAH'S LAND BACK IN THE CASE OF JERUSALEM
- 25:01 OR TO FIGHTING AGAINST THE SATAN WHICH IS THE PURPOSE HERE IN AMERICA,
- 25:05 THAT'S THE ULTIMATE END.
- 25:07 AND SO THE INDIVIDUAL ISN'T IMPORTANT,
- 25:08 THE CORPORATE AIM IS THAT WHICH IS SUPREME.
- 25:11 DR. CANER IS A GREAT GUY AND HE REMINDS ME THAT THE LORD GETS INTO PEOPLE'S HEARTS
- 25:15 NO MATTER THEIR BACKGROUND, ISLAMIC, HINDU, WHATEVER
- 25:19 AND GOD CAN CHANGE PEOPLE AND BRING US TOGETHER AS A PEOPLE OF ONE.
- 25:24 WELL, AN UNBELIEVER BECOMES A BELIEVER, THEIR HEARTS CHANGE.
- 25:27 PAUL SAYS WE ARE A NEW CREATION.
- 25:29 AND WE ARE A NEW CREATION.
- 25:31 THAT'S WHAT SO INTERESTING ABOUT ERGUN CANER
- 25:33 WAS THAT HE WALKS IN THE DOOR AND HE IS A NEW CREATION.
- 25:36 AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN HIS FACE,
- 25:38 HIS DEMEANOR IS WONDERFUL.
- 25:39 RIGHT AND I BELIEVE THAT HE CARRIES WITHIN HIS HEART
- 25:41 THE ANSWER FOR THE WORLD. >>RIGHT
- 25:43 AND THAT IS TO BE BORN ANEW,
- 25:45 TO BE RE-CREATED, TO BECOME A NEW CREATURE IN GOD'S MESSIAH, JESUS.
- 25:49 ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEACE.
- 25:51 HEBREW IS SHALOM,
- 25:54 ISLAM IS NOT... MEANS PEACE, IT MEANS SUBMISSION,
- 25:58 BUT THEY ALSO SAY "SALAM" WHICH MEANS PEACE.
- 26:01 RIGHT IF YOU'RE NOT FROM THE CULTURE AND DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE,
- 26:04 THEY SOUND ALIKE.
- 26:05 PEOPLE THINK THAT ISLAM'S THE RELIGION OF PEACE.
- 26:07 AND I SAY, YES, THEY WANT TO HAVE A PIECE IN THIS
- 26:09 AND A PIECE OF THAT COUNTRY AND A PIECE OF THIS
- 26:10 AND ONCE THEY HAVE ALL THE PIECES
- 26:12 THEN THERE'LL BE PEACE ON EARTH CAUSE THEY HAVE THE PUZZLE.
- 26:15 BUT THAT IS THEIR AGENDA.
- 26:16 THEY MAKE NO APOLOGIES FOR IT.
- 26:18 THEY ARE VERY OPEN AND SAY,
- 26:20 "WE WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO BE ISLAMIC,"
- 26:23 "EITHER BY THE SWORD OR ANY OTHER WAY WE CAN TAKE IT."
- 26:26 THEIR GOING TO DO IT.
- 26:27 RIGHT AND I WANT THE WORLD TO HAVE PEACE BY THE SWORD
- 26:29 AND IT'S THE SWORD OF SPIRIT THAT'S THE WORD OF GOD
- 26:31 THAT PIERCES HEARTS AND INVITES PEOPLE TO BE TRANSFORMED IN JESUS NAME.
- 26:35 AND ISN'T THAT WHAT WE WANT FOR ANYONE THAT'S LISTENING TO US?
- 26:37 GOD BLESS YOU AND
- 26:39 "SHA' ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM"
- 26:40 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.
- 26:44 OUR OFFER ON THIS PROGRAM;
Episodes in this series
- When Darkness Once Prevailed
- Out of the Darkness
- Dark Night of the Soul
- Bright Lights in a Darkened World
- The Darkness That Nearly Engulfed Us
- Letting the Sun Shine
- A Star That Breaks Through the Darkness
- Heavenly Light From Hellish Darkness