
“When Darkness Once Prevailed”
Dr. Jeffrey Seif speaks from a Jewish synagogue/memorial in Dachau, where he draws troubling parallels between the rise of the Nazis and the rise of radical Islam.
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Caption transcript for Bad Moon Rising: “When Darkness Once Prevailed” (1/8)
- 00:04 WITH DR. JEFFREY SEIF AND SANDRA LEVITT
- 00:10 AS DARK CLOUDS OMINOUSLY LOOM OVER THE HORIZON
- 00:15 RADICAL MUSLIMS CHARGE THE ATMOSPHERE
- 00:18 WITH BRAZEN DISREGARD.
- 00:20 AS THE SUN SETS OVER CHRISTIAN EUROPE
- 00:23 SLEEPING CHRISTIANS NEED TO WAKE UP
- 00:26 NON-CHRISTIANS NEED TO GET UP
- 00:29 AND MODERATE MUSLIMS NEED TO RISE UP.
- 00:43 A HEARTY SHALOM TO ALL OF YOU.
- 00:44 JEFFREY SEIF HERE,
- 00:46 WITH MY FRIEND SANDRA LEVITT.
- 00:47 SHALOM AND WELCOME TO "BAD MOON RISING"
- 00:50 JEFF WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT PAST,
- 00:52 WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE FUTURE,
- 00:53 AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE PRESENT.
- 00:55 YES, AND THEY SAY THAT IT SOMETIMES GETS DARKEST JUST BEFORE THE DAWN.
- 01:02 BAD MOON RISING TELLS A STORY THAT'S A LITTLE OMINOUS AT ONE LEVEL
- 01:07 BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT GOOD NEWS IS COMING ON PLANET EARTH.
- 01:11 I BELIEVE IN THE ULTIMATE TRIUMPH OF GOD IN HUMAN AFFAIRS >>AMEN
- 01:15 BUT STILL I SEE TROUBLE ON THE HORIZON.
- 01:19 AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK BACK AT OUR PAST
- 01:21 AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED,
- 01:23 NOT FORGET OUR PAST, AND THEN GO FORWARD
- 01:26 AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE FUTURE BETTER.
- 01:29 THAT'S RIGHT AND OUR FRIEND, TED PIERCE, JUXTAPOSES THE PAST AND THE PRESENT
- 01:34 IN THIS MUSIC PIECE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE CALLED "FORGOTTEN PEOPLE"
- 01:40 IT'S RIVETING!
- 01:41 STAY TUNED, IT'S DRAMATIC.
- 01:54 "ADOLPH HITLER!"
- 01:56 (People chant back) "ADOLPH HITLER!"
- 02:02 (shouting praises in German about Hitler)
- 02:19 ♪SIX MILLION PEOPLE CRYING FROM THE GRAVE♪
- 02:27 ♪INVISIBLE PEOPLE CALLING OUT THEIR NAMES♪
- 02:33 ♪BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE TAKEN FROM THEIR HOMES♪
- 02:41 ♪SCATTERED PEOPLE NOWHERE TO GO♪
- 02:46 ♪AND THE MOTHERS AND FATHERS AND THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS♪
- 02:50 ♪THEY WERE CARRIED AWAY IN TRAINS♪
- 02:54 ♪THEIR BODIES WERE BROKEN AND BEATEN AND BURNED♪
- 02:57 ♪AND THEIR ASHES FELL DOWN LIKE RAIN♪
- 03:01 ♪THEY WERE BRANDED WITH A NUMBER AND A YELLOW STAR♪
- 03:04 ♪AND PARADED AROUND IN SHAME♪
- 03:08 ♪THEY CALLED IT A CRIME, "TO BE BORN A JEW"♪
- 03:11 ♪AND IN THE NAME OF GOD THEY WERE SLAIN♪
- 03:14 ♪THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE♪ (Singers chanting) ♪CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT♪
- 03:21 ♪SIX MILLION PEOPLE♪
- 03:24 (Singers chanting) ♪CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT♪
- 03:28 ♪THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE♪
- 03:31 (Singers chanting) ♪CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT♪
- 03:35 ♪THE CHOSEN PEOPLE♪
- 03:38 (Singers chanting) ♪CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT♪
- 03:44 ♪BLESSED PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO HELP♪
- 03:52 ♪WHILE EVIL PEOPLE SCHEMED AMONG THEMSELVES♪
- 03:58 ♪EVERY DAY PEOPLE WHO IGNORED THE NEWS♪
- 04:05 ♪INDIFFERENT PEOPLE SITTING IN THE PEWS♪
- 04:12 ♪SOUND THE ALARM!! "SHOUTING NEVER AGAIN"!!♪
- 04:15 ♪LET THE RIGHTEOUS REVOLUTION BEGIN♪
- 04:19 ♪HISTORY MUST NEVER REPEAT ITSELF♪
- 04:22 ♪SO LIFT YOUR VOICES AND TAKE A STAND♪
- 04:26 ♪UNITED AS ONE "FOR ZION'S SAKE"♪
- 04:29 ♪UNDIVIDED AS THE NATIONS RAGE♪
- 04:33 ♪WE'VE GOT TO RISE LIKE AN ARMY IN "THE NAME"♪
- 04:36 ♪FOR THE NATION THAT WAS BORN IN A DAY.♪
- 04:38 ♪THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE♪
- 04:41 (Singers chanting) ♪CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT♪
- 04:46 ♪SIX MILLION PEOPLE♪
- 04:48 (Singers chanting) ♪CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT♪
- 04:53 ♪THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE♪
- 04:55 (Singers chanting) ♪CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT♪
- 05:00 ♪THE CHOSEN PEOPLE♪
- 05:03 (Singers chanting) ♪CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT♪
- 05:11 THAT WAS TED PIERCE.
- 05:13 THAT IS A VIDEO JEFF I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SEE.
- 05:15 I'VE SEEN IT A HUNDRED TIMES AND I'M SPELL BOUND BY IT.
- 05:19 IT'S RIVETING.
- 05:20 IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T FORGET.
- 05:22 IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT GETS INTO MEMORY AND REALLY JUST STAYS IN YOUR HEART.
- 05:27 AND IT SHOULD, IT REALLY SHOULD.
- 05:28 AND I'M CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE ARE FORGETTING. >>I AM TOO.
- 05:30 AND YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE IN DACHAU
- 05:33 AND YOU'RE TEACHING IN DACHAU ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT.
- 05:37 HERE'S JEFF AT DACHAU.
- 05:40 (Jeff speaking) DACHAU OPENED IN MARCH OF 1933
- 05:44 AND WAREHOUSED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HUMAN BEINGS.
- 05:49 IT WAS NAZI GERMANY'S FIRST CONCENTRATION CAMP FOR POLITICAL PRISONERS.
- 05:55 MEMORIAL BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN BUILT ON THIS INFAMOUS SITE
- 05:59 AND I VISITED ONE IN MEMORY OF THE JEWS.
- 06:03 A MEMORIAL SYNAGOGUE ESTABLISHED THERE AT DACHAU.
- 06:07 IT'S A MORBID LOOKING STRUCTURE.
- 06:11 MOST SYNAGOGUES ARE CONTEMPORARY, THEY'RE ORNATE, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL,
- 06:15 BUT THIS IS NOT A BEAUTIFUL SITE BY ANY STRETCH.
- 06:18 AND WHY WOULD IT BE?
- 06:20 HERE AT THE CORNER DACHAU WHERE THOUSANDS OF JEWS WERE BROUGHT FOR THE CRIME OF BEING JEWISH.
- 06:28 DACHAU OF COURSE IS THE MOTHER HOUSE OF AN INSTITUTION BENT ON THE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN KIND.
- 06:36 THE VISION WAS AN ARIAN RACE.
- 06:38 OTHERS WERE MARGINALIZED, DISPLACED AND EXTERMINATED IN VARIOUS WAYS.
- 06:43 RIGHT ABOVE ME HERE IN THIS SHRINE IS A VERSE;
- 06:52 PSALMS CHAPTER 9 IS ITSELF PLACED AS A SONG THAT WAS TO BE SUNG TO THE DEATH OF A SON.
- 06:58 SO IT'S SOMETHING OF A FUNERAL TYPE DIRGE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
- 07:02 IT TALKS ABOUT HOW LIFE IS SO VERY FRAGILE, PEOPLE CAN BE SO VERY CRUEL.
- 07:08 HE SAYS;
- 07:34 MAY PEOPLE BE PUT IN THEIR PLACE.
- 07:37 MAY WICKEDNESS NOT FOREVER TRIUMPH.
- 07:40 AT THE END OF THE DAY THE HEBREW BIBLE LOOKS FOR A DAY WHEN RIGHTEOUSNESS DWELLS ON PLANET EARTH.
- 07:49 AND HERE'S A FITTING MEMORIAL TO THAT EXPECTATION
- 07:53 AT A PLACE WHERE RIGHTEOUSNESS WAS IN VERY HIGH DEMAND AND VERY SHORT SUPPLY.
- 08:00 THIS MEMORIAL HARKS BACK TO A WORLD GONE BAD.
- 08:04 AND LET ME JUST SAY AS I WALK ON THESE SACRED GROUNDS AND REMEMBER THE HORROR OF ALL THIS,
- 08:10 NOT THAT I WAS HERE PERSONALLY,
- 08:12 I'M A DESCENDANT OF A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR,
- 08:15 I WAS BORN IN THE NEXT ERA AND I HAD HEARD AND EXPERIENCED IN DIFFERENT WAYS ON DIFFERENT DAYS
- 08:21 ABOUT WHAT TOOK PLACE AT DACHAU AND PLACES JUST LIKE IT,
- 08:25 BUT LET ME JUST SAY AS I WALK ABOUT DACHAU AND AS I STAND HERE ON THIS MEMORIAL
- 08:31 LET ME JUST SAY THAT I BELIEVE THERE'S TROUBLE IN RIVER CITY.
- 08:35 WHEN I THINK OF GROSS INEQUITY ON PLANET EARTH,
- 08:39 WHEN I THINK OF PSYCHOPATHOLOGY, HOW MINDS CAN BE TWISTED,
- 08:44 WHEN I THINK OF SOCIOPATHOLOGIES WHERE PEOPLE CAN DO WRONG TOWARD OTHER PEOPLE
- 08:48 WHERE THERE'S A SOMEWHAT LACKING VIRTUE IN A WORLD,
- 08:51 LET ME JUST SAY THAT I BELIEVE THIS IS RAISING ITS HOARY HEAD AGAIN.
- 08:55 AND IT'S NOT JUST A PROBLEM FOR JEWS;
- 08:58 IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ALL OF YOUS".
- 08:59 I BELIEVE PERSONALLY THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD TODAY
- 09:04 WHERE THERE'S AS MUCH INTEREST IN EXTERMINATING JEWS TODAY AS THERE WAS YESTERDAY
- 09:09 AS IS COMMEMORATED BY THIS PLACE THAT I'M STANDING ON TODAY.
- 09:14 I BELIEVE THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE THINK THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT JEWS.
- 09:19 AND IN FACT, ONE SUCH PERSON IS A HEAD OF STATE THAT RIGHT NOW IS RIGHT ON THE VERGE OF NUCLEAR CAPABILITY
- 09:27 AND ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION THIS PERSON SAID
- 09:30 THAT HE'S GOING TO IN EFFECT DO TO THE JEWS IN 12 MINUTES WHAT HITLER COULDN'T DO IN 12 YEARS.
- 09:47 OUR OFFER THIS WEEK;
- 10:19 (Sandra speaking) FROM DACHAU GERMANY JEFF CONTINUES HIS TEACHING.
- 10:25 WHEN I THINK OF RADICAL ISLAM,
- 10:27 WHEN I THINK OF A NATION STATE, A SOVEREIGN NATION STATE
- 10:32 THAT IS GIVEN OVER TO THE QUEST FOR A WORLD WITHOUT JEWS, WITHOUT ISRAEL,
- 10:38 THIS TROUBLES ME GREATLY.
- 10:40 AND IT'S NOT JUST A QUESTION OF AN ISLAMIC NATION STATE.
- 10:44 I DON'T WANT TO JUST FRAME THIS IN NATIONALIST TERMS, THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE.
- 10:49 WE LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT YES, ONCE THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION HAD PROBLEM WITH THE MOORS,
- 10:53 WE HAD OUR PROBLEM WITH THE TURKS.
- 10:55 IN HISTORY WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE BARBARY PIRATES BACK IN A BYGONE ERA
- 11:01 WITH THE FOUNDING OF OUR COUNTRY IN PROXIMITY TO THAT.
- 11:04 ITS NOT ABOUT MOORS, IT'S NOT ABOUT BARBARY PIRATES, IT'S NOT ABOUT TURKS,
- 11:08 IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVEN BY AN ISLAMIC VISION.
- 11:12 AND IT'S NOT JUST A RADICAL TELLING OF THAT VISION.
- 11:16 ONE NEED ONLY GIVE A CURSORY GLANCE OF ISLAMIC LITERATURE TO LEARN THAT COMMENDED THEREIN
- 11:24 IS THAT ISLAM'S BEING A STATE OF TENSION AGAINST THE PREVAILING CULTURE TILL THE END
- 11:30 WHEN EVENTUALLY CULTURES ARE SUBDUED FOR THE CAUSE OF ALLAH.
- 11:35 AND UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THAT A GOOD MUSLIM IS TO PRESS AGAINST THE CULTURE IN VARIOUS WAYS
- 11:42 IN ORDER TO BRING IT ALL INTO SUBMISSION TO ISLAM.
- 11:45 THEY CAN DO THIS STEALTHFULLY BY DECEIT,
- 11:47 BY SIGNING TREATIES THAT AREN'T WORTH THE PAPER THEY'RE WRITTEN ON,
- 11:51 BY MAKING PROMISES THAT AREN'T WORTH THE AIR THAT'S BEING BREATHED OUT OF A MOUTH IN MAKING THOSE PROMISES.
- 11:57 THEY CAN DO WHATEVER, THERE'S A DUAL ETHICS TO THE END THAT AT DAYS END ALLAH RULES,
- 12:03 THAT THE WORLD MIGHT SAY THERE'S NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET.
- 12:09 THAT IS THE STATED OBJECTIVE.
- 12:12 NOW ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THAT IS THAT JEWS ARE IN THE WAY OF THAT.
- 12:16 AND SO IT IS THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD TODAY WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE BENT ON DOING TODAY WHAT THEY COULDN'T DO YESTERDAY.
- 12:24 AND IF WE JUST SURVEYED A LITTLE BIT OF YESTERDAY
- 12:27 WE CAN SEE THAT PEOPLE UNDER ISLAMIC ADMINISTRATION SUFFERED IN MUCH THE SAME WAY AS PEOPLE UNDER HITLER'S ADMINISTRATION.
- 12:38 NOW YOU SAY, "JEFFREY YOU'RE PUSHING THAT."
- 12:40 NO I'M NOT.
- 12:42 I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT TO TALK ABOUT
- 12:44 BECAUSE WE FOREVER WANT TO TALK ABOUT RESPECTING RELIGIONS AND NOT OFFENDING.
- 12:48 I'M NOT TRYING TO OFFEND.
- 12:52 I'M JUST WANTING TO TELL THE TRUTH.
- 12:55 IF ONE LOOKS AT THE STORY OF ISLAMIC EXPANSION,
- 12:57 I KNOW YOU HEAR THE RHETORIC, "THE JEWS ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD."
- 12:59 IT'S LESS THAN 1 PERCENT OF THE ISLAMIC WORLD.
- 13:02 THERE IS NO WORLD VISION FOR JEWS.
- 13:05 JEWS JUST WANT TO BE LEFT IN THEIR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND IN PEACE,
- 13:07 GIVEN TO THEM BY GOD, VOWED SAFE TO FUTURE GENERATIONS.
- 13:11 ISLAM, HOWEVER, BEGAN FIRST IN MECCA
- 13:14 AND IN THE FIRST DOZEN OR SO YEARS MUHAMMAD PICKED UP A HUNDRED AND SOME DISCIPLES.
- 13:21 THEN HE GOES NORTH TO MEDINA AND EVENTUALLY HE'S GOING TO BECOME A POLITICAL ENTITY
- 13:26 AND WITHIN 10 YEARS HE'S GOING TO BE THE KING OF ALL ARABIA.
- 13:29 AND THE WAY THAT HAPPENS ISN'T JUST BY PREACHING,
- 13:31 ITS BY THE SWORD, ITS BY DINT OF DETERMINATION, ITS BY MARAUDING BANDS OF ISLAMIC SOLDIERS
- 13:38 BEING BROUGHT TOGETHER TO GO ON JIHAD, HOLY WAR, AND NOT CONTENT WITH JUST ARABIA.
- 13:44 RIGHT AFTER MUHAMMAD'S DEATH HIS LIEUTENANTS WENT UP IN BYZANTIUM,
- 13:49 BEYOND THAT THEN FUTURE GENERATIONS WENT UP INTO WHAT WOULD BE MODERN PERSIA,
- 13:53 SWEPT ALL OVER NORTHERN AFRICA THEN WENT OVER INTO SPAIN AND THEN WAS STOPPED.
- 13:59 IF ONE LOOKS AT THE HISTORICAL RECORDS, AS ISLAM GREW IT PICKED UP PEOPLES.
- 14:05 JEWS WERE CALLED "APES" AND CHRISTIANS WERE CALLED "PIGS".
- 14:10 NO, I'M NOT INSULTING; I'M JUST GIVING VOICE TO WHAT THE LITERATURE SAYS.
- 14:15 AND THESE SUB-HUMANS THEN WERE FORCED TO EXPERIENCE A SUB-HUMAN STATUS
- 14:21 WHERE THEY WERE TOLERATED PROVIDED FOR INSTANCE;
- 14:24 A JEW COULD LIVE IN AN ISLAMIC WORLD PROVIDED THAT HE GAVE 50% OF HIS REVENUE TO HIS LORD
- 14:30 AND THEN HE COULD ENJOY SOME EXISTENCE.
- 14:32 "ENJOYING" IS GREATLY OVERSTATED.
- 14:34 THE POINT IS THAT INDIVIDUALS WERE OPPRESSED ON THE BASE OF RACE, ON THE BASE OF CREED.
- 14:40 GIVEN THE FACT THAT IF CREEDS WEREN'T POLITICALLY CORRECT
- 14:43 THEN THESE PEOPLE WERE MARGINALIZED, THEY WERE FORCED INTO SERVITUDE.
- 14:46 AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED HERE AT DACHAU AND IT'S NOT SIMPLY JUST ABOUT THE JEWS.
- 14:51 THIS IS A JEWISH SHRINE RIGHT HERE, YES.
- 14:54 BUT RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS A CATHOLIC.WHY?
- 14:57 BECAUSE MANY CATHOLIC PRIESTS DIED HERE.
- 14:59 NOT FAR FROM THAT PROTESTANT SHRINE.WHY IS THAT?
- 15:02 BECAUSE PROTESTANTS DIED HERE.
- 15:04 NOT FAR RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD THERE'S A RUSSIAN ORTHODOX SHRINE.WHY IS THAT THERE?
- 15:07 BECAUSE THE RUSSIANS WERE BROUGHT HERE IN MASS AND KILLED AS WELL.
- 15:11 THIS WAS A GREAT KILLING FIELD.
- 15:13 THERE WAS A SYSTEM THAT SAID,
- 15:15 "WE ARE GOING TO PREVAIL, WE ARE GOING TO RULE, WE ARE GOING TO DOMINATE."
- 15:18 THAT WAS THE PREVAILING SYSTEM AND THEY WERE GIVEN TO DOING JUST THAT.
- 15:23 AND AS I'D SAID AT THE OUTSET, MY CONCERN IS THE PROBLEM ISN'T JUST THAT.
- 15:28 IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT'S A FOOTNOTE IN HUMAN HISTORY.
- 15:32 WE LIVE IN A WORLD TODAY WHERE WE MUST NEEDS KEEP AT BAY THE FORCES OF TOTALITARIANISM,
- 15:39 THAT WE MUST SPEAK UP, STAND UP.
- 15:41 AND SO THIS MINISTRY EXISTS TO DO JUST THAT, STAND UP FOR BIBLICAL VIRTUE,
- 15:47 STAND AGAINST THOSE BENT ON ITS DESTRUCTION.
- 15:50 IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT HAD MORE PEOPLE STOOD UP BACK WHEN HITLER WAS AROUND
- 15:53 THEN HE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN WHERE HE WAS AND EVEN WHERE HE WAS.
- 15:57 HE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN AS FAR AS HE'D GOTTEN.
- 15:59 HENCE, WE WOULDN'T THEN NEED A MEMORIAL LIKE THIS TO COMMEMORATE THE DEATH OF SO MANY.
- 16:14 JEFF YOUR TEACHING...
- 16:15 THE COMPARISON BETWEEN HITLER AND ISLAM WAS RIGHT ON.
- 16:18 ISLAM DOES TRY TO SCOOT EVERYBODY OUT OF THE WAY.
- 16:21 IT DOESN'T LIKE ANYBODY IN THEIR LAND OR EVEN AROUND THEM.
- 16:24 THE OTHER POINT I LIKE THAT YOU MADE WAS THAT PEOPLE THINK IT'S ONLY ABOUT THE JEWS AND ITS NOT.
- 16:30 ISLAM WANTS EVERYBODY OUT OF THE WAY,
- 16:33 THE PROTESTANTS, THE CATHOLICS, WE SAW THAT IN DACHAU.
- 16:36 WELL LET'S GET IN THE WAY. >>YEAH!
- 16:39 ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I LIKE PASTOR JOBST BITTNER
- 16:41 IS BECAUSE THIS IS A GUY THAT IS STANDING UP AND SPEAKING UP.
- 16:45 JOBST FAIRS FROM TUBINGEN GERMANY, A UNIVERSITY TRAINED THEOLOGIAN AND PASTOR
- 16:51 THAT DECIDED THE CHURCH HAS GONE TOO PAGAN AND NEEDS TO RETURN TO ITS JEWISH ROOTS.
- 16:57 AND IN THE PROCESS HE CHALLENGES INDIVIDUALS TO REMEMBER WHEN.
- 17:01 HE CALLS GERMANS TO REPENT.
- 17:04 HE WANTS EUROPEANS TO LOOK AND SEE THAT WE NEED TO RALLY BEHIND THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
- 17:09 JOBST BITTNER IS A BRIGHT LIGHT SHINING IN A DARK PLACE.
- 17:15 (Jeff speaking)
- 17:16 HERE TODAY WITH JOBST BITNER AND TINA POMPEI
- 17:18 IN SOUTHERN GERMANY.
- 17:20 SO GOOD TO BE HERE WITH YOU.
- 17:23 WE SPEAK OF KILLING FIELDS SOMETIMES BUT TO CALL THIS AREA A KILLING WOULD BE TOO EASY.
- 17:28 SOMETIMES IN A KILLING FIELD DEATH COMES QUICK
- 17:32 BUT WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE DEATH CAMPS WERE ROUND ABOUT WHERE DEATH CAME VERY SLOW.
- 17:36 JOBST YOU'RE A PASTOR IN GERMANY,
- 17:39 YOU'VE ORGANIZED A MARCH HERE, YES? >>YES
- 17:40 WHY?
- 17:43 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 17:49 "AFTER 1945 WE'VE BEEN CONFRONTED WITH A VEIL OF SILENCE HERE IN GERMANY"
- 17:53 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 17:56 "EVEN THOUGH OFTEN PEOPLE TRY TO WORK THROUGH THE GUILT OF THE TIME."
- 17:59 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 18:02 "WE STILL REALIZE THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF IGNORANCE."
- 18:04 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 18:06 "AND IN ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA HERE."
- 18:07 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 18:09 "AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AREA.."
- 18:10 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 18:13 "YOU REALIZE THAT THERE'S HARDLY ANYTHING VISIBLE"
- 18:15 "LEFT OF THE KILLING FIELDS."
- 18:17 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 18:20 "AND THAT WAS JUST THE SAME WAY"
- 18:21 "HOW THE POPULATION USED TO TREAT THE ISSUE."
- 18:23 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 18:25 "THERE WAS LIKE A VEIL OF SILENCE COVERING THE WHOLE THING."
- 18:26 SO YOU WANT TO CONFRONT THE CULTURE WITH
- 18:29 THE ATROCITIES OF THE HOLOCAUST STILL, YES?
- 18:33 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 18:37 "WE WANT TO LEAVE A MARK."
- 18:39 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 18:42 "AND WE WANT TO STAND UP FOR REMEMBERING"
- 18:44 "AND AGAINST FORGETTING."
- 18:46 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 18:49 "AND WE KNOW THIS IS THE ONLY WAY"
- 18:50 "HOW THE VEIL OF SILENCE CAN BE PIERCED THROUGH IN GERMANY."
- 18:53 DO SOME PEOPLE CRITICIZE AND SAY,
- 18:55 "ENOUGH ALREADY, IT'S BEEN 60 YEARS."
- 18:57 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 19:00 "YES, THERE IS MANY WHO SAY THAT."
- 19:01 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 19:05 "AND THERE ARE THE PARENTS WHO DON'T TALK ABOUT IT,"
- 19:07 "WHO DON'T REALIZE."
- 19:08 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 19:12 "EVEN IN OUR OWN CITY WE SAW MANY SIGNS"
- 19:14 "THAT THEY HAD NEVER WORKED THROUGH THE SINS OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM."
- 19:17 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 19:19 "AND FOR THE MOST PART IT'S JUST BEING VERY IGNORANT OF THE THINGS."
- 19:23 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 19:27 "AND THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE MEMORIAL SITE"
- 19:30 "HERE FOR THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS..."
- 19:32 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 19:36 "SAID THAT UP TO A TIME OF ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO"
- 19:38 "THERE WAS NOTHING EVER SAID OR DONE"
- 19:40 "ABOUT THE SIN AND GUILT IN THIS PLACE."
- 19:41 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 19:43 "AND ONLY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS SOMETHING HAS STARTED MOVING."
- 19:46 WELL, SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY STARTED MOVING IN YOU JOBST.
- 19:50 YOU STUDIED THEOLOGY IN SEMINARY.
- 19:53 DID YOU DEVELOP THIS AFFECTION THERE?
- 19:55 (LAUGHING, SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 19:59 "NO, THAT'S NOTHING YOU CAN REALLY STUDY IN ANY WAY IN SEMINARY."
- 20:02 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 20:06 "I STUDIED IN TUBINGEN AND TUBINGEN IS INFAMOUS FOR ITS LIBERAL THEOLOGY."
- 20:10 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 20:13 "BUT ALSO FOR ANTI-SEMITISM."
- 20:14 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 20:19 "THE UNIVERSITY OF TUBINGEN WAS THE FIRST UNIVERSITY"
- 20:22 "IN ALL OF GERMANY WHICH WAS SO CALLED 'FREE OF JEWS'."
- 20:24 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 20:28 "AND ONLY IN RECENT YEARS THEY STARTED WORKING THROUGH THAT."
- 20:30 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 20:35 "BUT IT'S VERY SAD TO FACE THE FACT"
- 20:38 "THAT DURING THE TIME OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM THE THEOLOGIANS HERE,"
- 20:41 "THEY WERE TOO ANTI-SEMITIC."
- 20:43 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 20:45 "BECAUSE MY UPBRINGING WAS VERY MUCH A HUMANISTIC ONE."
- 20:47 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 20:49 "AND I DID NOT HAVE ANY CONNECTIONS TO ISRAEL OR THE JEWISH ROOTS."
- 20:53 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 20:56 "BUT 4 YEARS AGO WE HAD A TIME OF VERY DEEP REPENTANCE."
- 20:59 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:04 "WHERE THE LORD SPOKE TO US SAYING, "ANTI-SEMITISM" IS ANEW."
- 21:07 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:10 "AND YOUR ANTI-SEMITISM IS YOUR SILENCE."
- 21:12 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:15 "AND WE WERE WEEPING AND REPENTING."
- 21:16 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:20 "AND ALL OF MINDSET, MY MESSAGE, MY THEOLOGY HAS CHANGED."
- 21:25 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:28 "BECAUSE UNLESS WE ARE ROOTED IN OUR JEWISH ROOTS..."
- 21:31 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:33 "WE ARE CUT OFF FROM THE SOURCE OF OUR BLESSING."
- 21:35 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:37 "AND THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED PROCLAIMING."
- 21:38 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:40 "WE STARTED CELEBRATING HANUKKAH IN OUR CITY OF TUBINGEN."
- 21:43 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:44 "WE STARTED KEEPING THE JEWISH FEASTS."
- 21:46 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:47 "WE HAD A HANUKKAH LAMP STAND IN OUR CHURCH."
- 21:50 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:53 "AND WE STARTED CHANGING EVEN OUR DANCING."
- 21:56 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 21:57 "AND SUDDENLY WE SAW BLESSING COME."
- 21:59 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 22:00 "WE SAW CHANGES IN OUR CITY,"
- 22:01 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 22:03 "WHERE WE HAD SEEN SO MUCH RESISTANCE BEFORE."
- 22:04 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 22:06 "SO WE ARE BLESSED. WE'VE RECEIVED BLESSING FROM ISRAEL."
- 22:08 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 22:09 "AND THAT'S NOT REALLY A THEOLOGY"
- 22:11 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 22:12 "IT'S OUR LIFE."
- 22:13 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
- 22:14 "IT'S OUR HEART."
- 22:17 WELL I'VE MET A LOT OF PEOPLE
- 22:19 AND FEW OF THEM HAS IMPRESSED ME AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE.
- 22:21 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LIFE AND YOUR MINISTRY BOTH OF YOU.
- 22:23 (SPEAKING GERMAN) "THANK YOU VERY MUCH."
- 22:25 GOD BLESS >>GOD BLESS YOU THANK YOU
- 22:29 ♪BLESS OUR PEOPLE, BLESS OUR LAND♪
- 22:35 ♪FOR THIS IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR, WORTH DYING FOR, OH LORD.♪
- 22:43 ♪ALWAYS DWELL WITH ISRAEL♪
- 22:50 ♪AND GLADLY WE'LL FIGHT FOR YOU; WE'LL DIE FOR YOU, O LORD.♪
- 22:58 ♪WHEN THE STRANGER COMES, WITH HIS SWORD.♪
- 23:06 ♪WE WILL MEET HIM ON THE BATTLEFIELD FOR YOU, O LORD.♪
- 23:13 ♪WHEN MESSIAH COMES, WITH HIS WORD♪
- 23:21 ♪THEN TOGETHER FOR ETERNITY WITH YOU, OH LORD!♪
- 23:28 ♪LET THEM COME, FOR WE ARE STRONG♪
- 23:35 ♪TOGETHER WE'LL HOLD THIS LAND, WE'LL HONOR YOU, O LORD.♪
- 23:43 ♪IF WE PERISH, IF WE DIE,♪
- 23:50 ♪JEHOVAH, REMEMBER US♪
- 23:54 ♪AND BRING US HOME AGAIN.♪
- 23:58 ♪WHEN THE KINGDOM COMES WE'LL BE HOME♪
- 24:06 ♪WHEN MESSIAH COMES WE'LL SING OF PEACE, WE'LL SING, "SHALOM"♪
- 24:13 ♪WITH THE STRENGTH OF GOD, WE'LL PREVAIL♪
- 24:21 ♪THEN WE'LL DWELL IN PEACE WITH YOU, O LORD, IN ISRAEL.♪
- 24:28 ♪WE'LL DWELL IN PEACE WITH YOU, O LORD, IN ISRAEL.♪
- 24:45 ♪IN ISRAEL.♪
- 24:54 IN SO MANY WAYS WE LIVE IN A TOUGH WORLD AND BAD MOON RISING ALIGHTS UPON DIFFICULTIES IN IT.
- 25:03 THE GOOD NEWS, HOWEVER, IS THAT INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY JESUS.
- 25:08 WAKING UP AND THEIR STANDING UP AND JOBST BITTNER IS ONE SUCH PERSON.
- 25:14 FELL IN LOVE WITH JESUS.
- 25:15 FELL IN LOVE WITH THE JEWS AND WANTS TO BE A LIGHT SHINING IN A DARKENED PLACE.
- 25:20 AND WENT TO A LIBERAL SEMINARY
- 25:23 AND YET FELT THE CALL OF MESSIAH TO HIM
- 25:26 AND FELT THE LOVE OF JEWS
- 25:28 AND HE IS SPREADING THE WORD IN THAT LITTLE PART OF GERMANY.
- 25:31 HE'S SPREADING HIS WORD.
- 25:32 HE'S SO PROACTIVE. >>YES, YES,
- 25:33 HE'S WONDERFUL!
- 25:34 HE'S NOT A MEGA CHURCH PASTOR,
- 25:36 DOESN'T HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BUT HE HAS A HEART OF GOLD.
- 25:39 AND WHAT A DIFFERENCE HE MAKES.
- 25:41 WELL, AND HE'S LIFTING THAT VEIL OF SILENCE.
- 25:43 AS HE SAID, IF YOU KEEP SILENCE
- 25:44 IT REALLY IS ANTI-SEMITISM.
- 25:47 MY PRAYER IS THAT HE WOULD JUST MULTIPLIED, AND THAT WHAT HE'S ALL ABOUT
- 25:51 WILL JUST GO INTO HEARTS AND HOMES ALL OVER EUROPE AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.
- 25:55 BUT IT'S ALREADY MAKING A DIFFERENCE. YEAH....YEAH.
- 25:58 YOU CAN TELL IN HIS CHURCH,
- 25:59 YOU CAN TELL IN HIS DEMEANOR.
- 26:00 HIS DEMEANOR IS SO APOLOGETIC,
- 26:03 SO "LET ME HELP HOWEVER I CAN NOW,"
- 26:05 "I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS RIGHT."
- 26:07 AND BOY THAT SAYS A LOT.
- 26:09 LORD MAKE IT HAPPEN. >>AMEN
- 26:11 THAT ORDINARY PEOPLE CAN STAND UP AND DO EXTRAORDINARY THINGS.
- 26:14 AMEN AND AS YOU GO,
- 26:16 "SHA' ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM"
- 26:18 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.
- 26:22 OUR OFFER THIS WEEK;
- 27:35 SHALOM FROM JERUSALEM.
- 27:37 ACTUALLY WE'RE IN THE GARDEN OF GETHSEMANE.
- 27:39 WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OLIVE TREES JEFF.
- 27:41 OUR PEOPLE ARE BEHIND,
- 27:42 THEY'RE LISTENING TO OUR GUIDE ZVI TALK
- 27:44 AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO A BIBLE STUDY.
- 27:46 AND THEY ARE HAVING A TRIP OF A LIFETIME.
- 27:48 IF YOU FEEL THE LORD BECKONING YOU
- 27:50 AND MYSTERIOUS THE BECKONING
- 27:52 THAT HAVE BEEN DRAWING BELIEVERS TO THIS LAND FOR MILLENNIA
- 27:56 DO JOIN US PLEASE FOR A TRIP OF A LIFETIME.
- 27:58 SANDRA AND I KNOW YOU'LL BE BLESSED.
- 28:01 FOR YOUR FREE BROCHURE ON OUR NEXT TOUR CALL;