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“When Darkness Once Prevailed”

937     28:20     First aired 2007-09-23     [CC]
Episode 1 of 8 in the series “Bad Moon Rising”

Dr. Jeffrey Seif speaks from a Jewish synagogue/memorial in Dachau, where he draws troubling parallels between the rise of the Nazis and the rise of radical Islam.

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Caption transcript for Bad Moon Rising: “When Darkness Once Prevailed” (1/8)

  • 00:04 WITH DR. JEFFREY SEIF AND SANDRA LEVITT
  • 00:10 AS DARK CLOUDS OMINOUSLY LOOM OVER THE HORIZON
  • 00:15 RADICAL MUSLIMS CHARGE THE ATMOSPHERE
  • 00:18 WITH BRAZEN DISREGARD.
  • 00:20 AS THE SUN SETS OVER CHRISTIAN EUROPE
  • 00:23 SLEEPING CHRISTIANS NEED TO WAKE UP
  • 00:26 NON-CHRISTIANS NEED TO GET UP
  • 00:29 AND MODERATE MUSLIMS NEED TO RISE UP.
  • 00:43 A HEARTY SHALOM TO ALL OF YOU.
  • 00:44 JEFFREY SEIF HERE,
  • 00:46 WITH MY FRIEND SANDRA LEVITT.
  • 00:47 SHALOM AND WELCOME TO "BAD MOON RISING"
  • 00:50 JEFF WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT PAST,
  • 00:52 WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE FUTURE,
  • 00:53 AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE PRESENT.
  • 00:55 YES, AND THEY SAY THAT IT SOMETIMES GETS DARKEST JUST BEFORE THE DAWN.
  • 01:02 BAD MOON RISING TELLS A STORY THAT'S A LITTLE OMINOUS AT ONE LEVEL
  • 01:07 BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT GOOD NEWS IS COMING ON PLANET EARTH.
  • 01:11 I BELIEVE IN THE ULTIMATE TRIUMPH OF GOD IN HUMAN AFFAIRS >>AMEN
  • 01:15 BUT STILL I SEE TROUBLE ON THE HORIZON.
  • 01:19 AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK BACK AT OUR PAST
  • 01:21 AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED,
  • 01:23 NOT FORGET OUR PAST, AND THEN GO FORWARD
  • 01:26 AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE FUTURE BETTER.
  • 01:29 THAT'S RIGHT AND OUR FRIEND, TED PIERCE, JUXTAPOSES THE PAST AND THE PRESENT
  • 01:34 IN THIS MUSIC PIECE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE CALLED "FORGOTTEN PEOPLE"
  • 01:40 IT'S RIVETING!
  • 01:41 STAY TUNED, IT'S DRAMATIC.
  • 01:54 "ADOLPH HITLER!"
  • 01:56 (People chant back) "ADOLPH HITLER!"
  • 02:02 (shouting praises in German about Hitler)
  • 02:19 ♪SIX MILLION PEOPLE CRYING FROM THE GRAVE♪
  • 02:27 ♪INVISIBLE PEOPLE CALLING OUT THEIR NAMES♪
  • 02:33 ♪BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE TAKEN FROM THEIR HOMES♪
  • 02:41 ♪SCATTERED PEOPLE NOWHERE TO GO♪
  • 02:46 ♪AND THE MOTHERS AND FATHERS AND THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS♪
  • 02:50 ♪THEY WERE CARRIED AWAY IN TRAINS♪
  • 02:54 ♪THEIR BODIES WERE BROKEN AND BEATEN AND BURNED♪
  • 02:57 ♪AND THEIR ASHES FELL DOWN LIKE RAIN♪
  • 03:01 ♪THEY WERE BRANDED WITH A NUMBER AND A YELLOW STAR♪
  • 03:04 ♪AND PARADED AROUND IN SHAME♪
  • 03:08 ♪THEY CALLED IT A CRIME, "TO BE BORN A JEW"♪
  • 03:11 ♪AND IN THE NAME OF GOD THEY WERE SLAIN♪
  • 03:14 ♪THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE♪ (Singers chanting) ♪CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT♪
  • 03:21 ♪SIX MILLION PEOPLE♪
  • 03:24 (Singers chanting) ♪CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT♪
  • 03:28 ♪THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE♪
  • 03:31 (Singers chanting) ♪CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT♪
  • 03:35 ♪THE CHOSEN PEOPLE♪
  • 03:38 (Singers chanting) ♪CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT♪
  • 03:44 ♪BLESSED PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO HELP♪
  • 03:52 ♪WHILE EVIL PEOPLE SCHEMED AMONG THEMSELVES♪
  • 03:58 ♪EVERY DAY PEOPLE WHO IGNORED THE NEWS♪
  • 04:05 ♪INDIFFERENT PEOPLE SITTING IN THE PEWS♪
  • 04:12 ♪SOUND THE ALARM!! "SHOUTING NEVER AGAIN"!!♪
  • 04:15 ♪LET THE RIGHTEOUS REVOLUTION BEGIN♪
  • 04:19 ♪HISTORY MUST NEVER REPEAT ITSELF♪
  • 04:22 ♪SO LIFT YOUR VOICES AND TAKE A STAND♪
  • 04:26 ♪UNITED AS ONE "FOR ZION'S SAKE"♪
  • 04:29 ♪UNDIVIDED AS THE NATIONS RAGE♪
  • 04:33 ♪WE'VE GOT TO RISE LIKE AN ARMY IN "THE NAME"♪
  • 04:36 ♪FOR THE NATION THAT WAS BORN IN A DAY.♪
  • 04:38 ♪THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE♪
  • 04:41 (Singers chanting) ♪CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT♪
  • 04:46 ♪SIX MILLION PEOPLE♪
  • 04:48 (Singers chanting) ♪CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT♪
  • 04:53 ♪THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE♪
  • 04:55 (Singers chanting) ♪CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT, CALLING OUT♪
  • 05:00 ♪THE CHOSEN PEOPLE♪
  • 05:03 (Singers chanting) ♪CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT, CRYING OUT♪
  • 05:11 THAT WAS TED PIERCE.
  • 05:13 THAT IS A VIDEO JEFF I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SEE.
  • 05:15 I'VE SEEN IT A HUNDRED TIMES AND I'M SPELL BOUND BY IT.
  • 05:19 IT'S RIVETING.
  • 05:20 IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T FORGET.
  • 05:22 IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT GETS INTO MEMORY AND REALLY JUST STAYS IN YOUR HEART.
  • 05:27 AND IT SHOULD, IT REALLY SHOULD.
  • 05:28 AND I'M CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE ARE FORGETTING. >>I AM TOO.
  • 05:30 AND YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE IN DACHAU
  • 05:33 AND YOU'RE TEACHING IN DACHAU ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT.
  • 05:37 HERE'S JEFF AT DACHAU.
  • 05:40 (Jeff speaking) DACHAU OPENED IN MARCH OF 1933
  • 05:44 AND WAREHOUSED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HUMAN BEINGS.
  • 05:49 IT WAS NAZI GERMANY'S FIRST CONCENTRATION CAMP FOR POLITICAL PRISONERS.
  • 05:55 MEMORIAL BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN BUILT ON THIS INFAMOUS SITE
  • 05:59 AND I VISITED ONE IN MEMORY OF THE JEWS.
  • 06:03 A MEMORIAL SYNAGOGUE ESTABLISHED THERE AT DACHAU.
  • 06:07 IT'S A MORBID LOOKING STRUCTURE.
  • 06:11 MOST SYNAGOGUES ARE CONTEMPORARY, THEY'RE ORNATE, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL,
  • 06:15 BUT THIS IS NOT A BEAUTIFUL SITE BY ANY STRETCH.
  • 06:18 AND WHY WOULD IT BE?
  • 06:20 HERE AT THE CORNER DACHAU WHERE THOUSANDS OF JEWS WERE BROUGHT FOR THE CRIME OF BEING JEWISH.
  • 06:28 DACHAU OF COURSE IS THE MOTHER HOUSE OF AN INSTITUTION BENT ON THE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN KIND.
  • 06:36 THE VISION WAS AN ARIAN RACE.
  • 06:38 OTHERS WERE MARGINALIZED, DISPLACED AND EXTERMINATED IN VARIOUS WAYS.
  • 06:43 RIGHT ABOVE ME HERE IN THIS SHRINE IS A VERSE;
  • 06:52 PSALMS CHAPTER 9 IS ITSELF PLACED AS A SONG THAT WAS TO BE SUNG TO THE DEATH OF A SON.
  • 06:58 SO IT'S SOMETHING OF A FUNERAL TYPE DIRGE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
  • 07:02 IT TALKS ABOUT HOW LIFE IS SO VERY FRAGILE, PEOPLE CAN BE SO VERY CRUEL.
  • 07:08 HE SAYS;
  • 07:34 MAY PEOPLE BE PUT IN THEIR PLACE.
  • 07:37 MAY WICKEDNESS NOT FOREVER TRIUMPH.
  • 07:40 AT THE END OF THE DAY THE HEBREW BIBLE LOOKS FOR A DAY WHEN RIGHTEOUSNESS DWELLS ON PLANET EARTH.
  • 07:49 AND HERE'S A FITTING MEMORIAL TO THAT EXPECTATION
  • 07:53 AT A PLACE WHERE RIGHTEOUSNESS WAS IN VERY HIGH DEMAND AND VERY SHORT SUPPLY.
  • 08:00 THIS MEMORIAL HARKS BACK TO A WORLD GONE BAD.
  • 08:04 AND LET ME JUST SAY AS I WALK ON THESE SACRED GROUNDS AND REMEMBER THE HORROR OF ALL THIS,
  • 08:10 NOT THAT I WAS HERE PERSONALLY,
  • 08:12 I'M A DESCENDANT OF A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR,
  • 08:15 I WAS BORN IN THE NEXT ERA AND I HAD HEARD AND EXPERIENCED IN DIFFERENT WAYS ON DIFFERENT DAYS
  • 08:21 ABOUT WHAT TOOK PLACE AT DACHAU AND PLACES JUST LIKE IT,
  • 08:25 BUT LET ME JUST SAY AS I WALK ABOUT DACHAU AND AS I STAND HERE ON THIS MEMORIAL
  • 08:31 LET ME JUST SAY THAT I BELIEVE THERE'S TROUBLE IN RIVER CITY.
  • 08:35 WHEN I THINK OF GROSS INEQUITY ON PLANET EARTH,
  • 08:39 WHEN I THINK OF PSYCHOPATHOLOGY, HOW MINDS CAN BE TWISTED,
  • 08:44 WHEN I THINK OF SOCIOPATHOLOGIES WHERE PEOPLE CAN DO WRONG TOWARD OTHER PEOPLE
  • 08:48 WHERE THERE'S A SOMEWHAT LACKING VIRTUE IN A WORLD,
  • 08:51 LET ME JUST SAY THAT I BELIEVE THIS IS RAISING ITS HOARY HEAD AGAIN.
  • 08:55 AND IT'S NOT JUST A PROBLEM FOR JEWS;
  • 08:58 IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ALL OF YOUS".
  • 08:59 I BELIEVE PERSONALLY THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD TODAY
  • 09:04 WHERE THERE'S AS MUCH INTEREST IN EXTERMINATING JEWS TODAY AS THERE WAS YESTERDAY
  • 09:09 AS IS COMMEMORATED BY THIS PLACE THAT I'M STANDING ON TODAY.
  • 09:14 I BELIEVE THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE THINK THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT JEWS.
  • 09:19 AND IN FACT, ONE SUCH PERSON IS A HEAD OF STATE THAT RIGHT NOW IS RIGHT ON THE VERGE OF NUCLEAR CAPABILITY
  • 09:27 AND ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION THIS PERSON SAID
  • 09:30 THAT HE'S GOING TO IN EFFECT DO TO THE JEWS IN 12 MINUTES WHAT HITLER COULDN'T DO IN 12 YEARS.
  • 09:47 OUR OFFER THIS WEEK;
  • 10:19 (Sandra speaking) FROM DACHAU GERMANY JEFF CONTINUES HIS TEACHING.
  • 10:25 WHEN I THINK OF RADICAL ISLAM,
  • 10:27 WHEN I THINK OF A NATION STATE, A SOVEREIGN NATION STATE
  • 10:32 THAT IS GIVEN OVER TO THE QUEST FOR A WORLD WITHOUT JEWS, WITHOUT ISRAEL,
  • 10:38 THIS TROUBLES ME GREATLY.
  • 10:40 AND IT'S NOT JUST A QUESTION OF AN ISLAMIC NATION STATE.
  • 10:44 I DON'T WANT TO JUST FRAME THIS IN NATIONALIST TERMS, THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE.
  • 10:49 WE LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT YES, ONCE THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION HAD PROBLEM WITH THE MOORS,
  • 10:53 WE HAD OUR PROBLEM WITH THE TURKS.
  • 10:55 IN HISTORY WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE BARBARY PIRATES BACK IN A BYGONE ERA
  • 11:01 WITH THE FOUNDING OF OUR COUNTRY IN PROXIMITY TO THAT.
  • 11:04 ITS NOT ABOUT MOORS, IT'S NOT ABOUT BARBARY PIRATES, IT'S NOT ABOUT TURKS,
  • 11:08 IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVEN BY AN ISLAMIC VISION.
  • 11:12 AND IT'S NOT JUST A RADICAL TELLING OF THAT VISION.
  • 11:16 ONE NEED ONLY GIVE A CURSORY GLANCE OF ISLAMIC LITERATURE TO LEARN THAT COMMENDED THEREIN
  • 11:24 IS THAT ISLAM'S BEING A STATE OF TENSION AGAINST THE PREVAILING CULTURE TILL THE END
  • 11:30 WHEN EVENTUALLY CULTURES ARE SUBDUED FOR THE CAUSE OF ALLAH.
  • 11:35 AND UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THAT A GOOD MUSLIM IS TO PRESS AGAINST THE CULTURE IN VARIOUS WAYS
  • 11:42 IN ORDER TO BRING IT ALL INTO SUBMISSION TO ISLAM.
  • 11:45 THEY CAN DO THIS STEALTHFULLY BY DECEIT,
  • 11:47 BY SIGNING TREATIES THAT AREN'T WORTH THE PAPER THEY'RE WRITTEN ON,
  • 11:51 BY MAKING PROMISES THAT AREN'T WORTH THE AIR THAT'S BEING BREATHED OUT OF A MOUTH IN MAKING THOSE PROMISES.
  • 11:57 THEY CAN DO WHATEVER, THERE'S A DUAL ETHICS TO THE END THAT AT DAYS END ALLAH RULES,
  • 12:03 THAT THE WORLD MIGHT SAY THERE'S NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET.
  • 12:09 THAT IS THE STATED OBJECTIVE.
  • 12:12 NOW ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THAT IS THAT JEWS ARE IN THE WAY OF THAT.
  • 12:16 AND SO IT IS THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD TODAY WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE BENT ON DOING TODAY WHAT THEY COULDN'T DO YESTERDAY.
  • 12:24 AND IF WE JUST SURVEYED A LITTLE BIT OF YESTERDAY
  • 12:27 WE CAN SEE THAT PEOPLE UNDER ISLAMIC ADMINISTRATION SUFFERED IN MUCH THE SAME WAY AS PEOPLE UNDER HITLER'S ADMINISTRATION.
  • 12:38 NOW YOU SAY, "JEFFREY YOU'RE PUSHING THAT."
  • 12:40 NO I'M NOT.
  • 12:42 I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT TO TALK ABOUT
  • 12:44 BECAUSE WE FOREVER WANT TO TALK ABOUT RESPECTING RELIGIONS AND NOT OFFENDING.
  • 12:48 I'M NOT TRYING TO OFFEND.
  • 12:52 I'M JUST WANTING TO TELL THE TRUTH.
  • 12:55 IF ONE LOOKS AT THE STORY OF ISLAMIC EXPANSION,
  • 12:57 I KNOW YOU HEAR THE RHETORIC, "THE JEWS ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD."
  • 12:59 IT'S LESS THAN 1 PERCENT OF THE ISLAMIC WORLD.
  • 13:02 THERE IS NO WORLD VISION FOR JEWS.
  • 13:05 JEWS JUST WANT TO BE LEFT IN THEIR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND IN PEACE,
  • 13:07 GIVEN TO THEM BY GOD, VOWED SAFE TO FUTURE GENERATIONS.
  • 13:11 ISLAM, HOWEVER, BEGAN FIRST IN MECCA
  • 13:14 AND IN THE FIRST DOZEN OR SO YEARS MUHAMMAD PICKED UP A HUNDRED AND SOME DISCIPLES.
  • 13:21 THEN HE GOES NORTH TO MEDINA AND EVENTUALLY HE'S GOING TO BECOME A POLITICAL ENTITY
  • 13:26 AND WITHIN 10 YEARS HE'S GOING TO BE THE KING OF ALL ARABIA.
  • 13:29 AND THE WAY THAT HAPPENS ISN'T JUST BY PREACHING,
  • 13:31 ITS BY THE SWORD, ITS BY DINT OF DETERMINATION, ITS BY MARAUDING BANDS OF ISLAMIC SOLDIERS
  • 13:38 BEING BROUGHT TOGETHER TO GO ON JIHAD, HOLY WAR, AND NOT CONTENT WITH JUST ARABIA.
  • 13:44 RIGHT AFTER MUHAMMAD'S DEATH HIS LIEUTENANTS WENT UP IN BYZANTIUM,
  • 13:49 BEYOND THAT THEN FUTURE GENERATIONS WENT UP INTO WHAT WOULD BE MODERN PERSIA,
  • 13:53 SWEPT ALL OVER NORTHERN AFRICA THEN WENT OVER INTO SPAIN AND THEN WAS STOPPED.
  • 13:59 IF ONE LOOKS AT THE HISTORICAL RECORDS, AS ISLAM GREW IT PICKED UP PEOPLES.
  • 14:05 JEWS WERE CALLED "APES" AND CHRISTIANS WERE CALLED "PIGS".
  • 14:10 NO, I'M NOT INSULTING; I'M JUST GIVING VOICE TO WHAT THE LITERATURE SAYS.
  • 14:15 AND THESE SUB-HUMANS THEN WERE FORCED TO EXPERIENCE A SUB-HUMAN STATUS
  • 14:21 WHERE THEY WERE TOLERATED PROVIDED FOR INSTANCE;
  • 14:24 A JEW COULD LIVE IN AN ISLAMIC WORLD PROVIDED THAT HE GAVE 50% OF HIS REVENUE TO HIS LORD
  • 14:30 AND THEN HE COULD ENJOY SOME EXISTENCE.
  • 14:32 "ENJOYING" IS GREATLY OVERSTATED.
  • 14:34 THE POINT IS THAT INDIVIDUALS WERE OPPRESSED ON THE BASE OF RACE, ON THE BASE OF CREED.
  • 14:40 GIVEN THE FACT THAT IF CREEDS WEREN'T POLITICALLY CORRECT
  • 14:43 THEN THESE PEOPLE WERE MARGINALIZED, THEY WERE FORCED INTO SERVITUDE.
  • 14:46 AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED HERE AT DACHAU AND IT'S NOT SIMPLY JUST ABOUT THE JEWS.
  • 14:51 THIS IS A JEWISH SHRINE RIGHT HERE, YES.
  • 14:54 BUT RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS A CATHOLIC.WHY?
  • 14:57 BECAUSE MANY CATHOLIC PRIESTS DIED HERE.
  • 14:59 NOT FAR FROM THAT PROTESTANT SHRINE.WHY IS THAT?
  • 15:02 BECAUSE PROTESTANTS DIED HERE.
  • 15:04 NOT FAR RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD THERE'S A RUSSIAN ORTHODOX SHRINE.WHY IS THAT THERE?
  • 15:07 BECAUSE THE RUSSIANS WERE BROUGHT HERE IN MASS AND KILLED AS WELL.
  • 15:11 THIS WAS A GREAT KILLING FIELD.
  • 15:13 THERE WAS A SYSTEM THAT SAID,
  • 15:15 "WE ARE GOING TO PREVAIL, WE ARE GOING TO RULE, WE ARE GOING TO DOMINATE."
  • 15:18 THAT WAS THE PREVAILING SYSTEM AND THEY WERE GIVEN TO DOING JUST THAT.
  • 15:23 AND AS I'D SAID AT THE OUTSET, MY CONCERN IS THE PROBLEM ISN'T JUST THAT.
  • 15:28 IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT'S A FOOTNOTE IN HUMAN HISTORY.
  • 15:32 WE LIVE IN A WORLD TODAY WHERE WE MUST NEEDS KEEP AT BAY THE FORCES OF TOTALITARIANISM,
  • 15:39 THAT WE MUST SPEAK UP, STAND UP.
  • 15:41 AND SO THIS MINISTRY EXISTS TO DO JUST THAT, STAND UP FOR BIBLICAL VIRTUE,
  • 15:47 STAND AGAINST THOSE BENT ON ITS DESTRUCTION.
  • 15:50 IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT HAD MORE PEOPLE STOOD UP BACK WHEN HITLER WAS AROUND
  • 15:53 THEN HE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN WHERE HE WAS AND EVEN WHERE HE WAS.
  • 15:57 HE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN AS FAR AS HE'D GOTTEN.
  • 15:59 HENCE, WE WOULDN'T THEN NEED A MEMORIAL LIKE THIS TO COMMEMORATE THE DEATH OF SO MANY.
  • 16:14 JEFF YOUR TEACHING...
  • 16:15 THE COMPARISON BETWEEN HITLER AND ISLAM WAS RIGHT ON.
  • 16:18 ISLAM DOES TRY TO SCOOT EVERYBODY OUT OF THE WAY.
  • 16:21 IT DOESN'T LIKE ANYBODY IN THEIR LAND OR EVEN AROUND THEM.
  • 16:24 THE OTHER POINT I LIKE THAT YOU MADE WAS THAT PEOPLE THINK IT'S ONLY ABOUT THE JEWS AND ITS NOT.
  • 16:30 ISLAM WANTS EVERYBODY OUT OF THE WAY,
  • 16:33 THE PROTESTANTS, THE CATHOLICS, WE SAW THAT IN DACHAU.
  • 16:36 WELL LET'S GET IN THE WAY. >>YEAH!
  • 16:39 ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I LIKE PASTOR JOBST BITTNER
  • 16:41 IS BECAUSE THIS IS A GUY THAT IS STANDING UP AND SPEAKING UP.
  • 16:45 JOBST FAIRS FROM TUBINGEN GERMANY, A UNIVERSITY TRAINED THEOLOGIAN AND PASTOR
  • 16:51 THAT DECIDED THE CHURCH HAS GONE TOO PAGAN AND NEEDS TO RETURN TO ITS JEWISH ROOTS.
  • 16:57 AND IN THE PROCESS HE CHALLENGES INDIVIDUALS TO REMEMBER WHEN.
  • 17:01 HE CALLS GERMANS TO REPENT.
  • 17:04 HE WANTS EUROPEANS TO LOOK AND SEE THAT WE NEED TO RALLY BEHIND THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
  • 17:09 JOBST BITTNER IS A BRIGHT LIGHT SHINING IN A DARK PLACE.
  • 17:15 (Jeff speaking)
  • 17:16 HERE TODAY WITH JOBST BITNER AND TINA POMPEI
  • 17:18 IN SOUTHERN GERMANY.
  • 17:20 SO GOOD TO BE HERE WITH YOU.
  • 17:23 WE SPEAK OF KILLING FIELDS SOMETIMES BUT TO CALL THIS AREA A KILLING WOULD BE TOO EASY.
  • 17:28 SOMETIMES IN A KILLING FIELD DEATH COMES QUICK
  • 17:32 BUT WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE DEATH CAMPS WERE ROUND ABOUT WHERE DEATH CAME VERY SLOW.
  • 17:36 JOBST YOU'RE A PASTOR IN GERMANY,
  • 17:39 YOU'VE ORGANIZED A MARCH HERE, YES? >>YES
  • 17:40 WHY?
  • 17:43 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 17:49 "AFTER 1945 WE'VE BEEN CONFRONTED WITH A VEIL OF SILENCE HERE IN GERMANY"
  • 17:53 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 17:56 "EVEN THOUGH OFTEN PEOPLE TRY TO WORK THROUGH THE GUILT OF THE TIME."
  • 17:59 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 18:02 "WE STILL REALIZE THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF IGNORANCE."
  • 18:04 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 18:06 "AND IN ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA HERE."
  • 18:07 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 18:09 "AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AREA.."
  • 18:10 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 18:13 "YOU REALIZE THAT THERE'S HARDLY ANYTHING VISIBLE"
  • 18:15 "LEFT OF THE KILLING FIELDS."
  • 18:17 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 18:20 "AND THAT WAS JUST THE SAME WAY"
  • 18:21 "HOW THE POPULATION USED TO TREAT THE ISSUE."
  • 18:23 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 18:25 "THERE WAS LIKE A VEIL OF SILENCE COVERING THE WHOLE THING."
  • 18:26 SO YOU WANT TO CONFRONT THE CULTURE WITH
  • 18:29 THE ATROCITIES OF THE HOLOCAUST STILL, YES?
  • 18:33 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 18:37 "WE WANT TO LEAVE A MARK."
  • 18:39 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 18:42 "AND WE WANT TO STAND UP FOR REMEMBERING"
  • 18:44 "AND AGAINST FORGETTING."
  • 18:46 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 18:49 "AND WE KNOW THIS IS THE ONLY WAY"
  • 18:50 "HOW THE VEIL OF SILENCE CAN BE PIERCED THROUGH IN GERMANY."
  • 18:53 DO SOME PEOPLE CRITICIZE AND SAY,
  • 18:55 "ENOUGH ALREADY, IT'S BEEN 60 YEARS."
  • 18:57 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 19:00 "YES, THERE IS MANY WHO SAY THAT."
  • 19:01 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 19:05 "AND THERE ARE THE PARENTS WHO DON'T TALK ABOUT IT,"
  • 19:07 "WHO DON'T REALIZE."
  • 19:08 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 19:12 "EVEN IN OUR OWN CITY WE SAW MANY SIGNS"
  • 19:14 "THAT THEY HAD NEVER WORKED THROUGH THE SINS OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM."
  • 19:17 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 19:19 "AND FOR THE MOST PART IT'S JUST BEING VERY IGNORANT OF THE THINGS."
  • 19:23 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 19:27 "AND THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE MEMORIAL SITE"
  • 19:30 "HERE FOR THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS..."
  • 19:32 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 19:36 "SAID THAT UP TO A TIME OF ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO"
  • 19:38 "THERE WAS NOTHING EVER SAID OR DONE"
  • 19:40 "ABOUT THE SIN AND GUILT IN THIS PLACE."
  • 19:41 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 19:43 "AND ONLY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS SOMETHING HAS STARTED MOVING."
  • 19:46 WELL, SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY STARTED MOVING IN YOU JOBST.
  • 19:50 YOU STUDIED THEOLOGY IN SEMINARY.
  • 19:53 DID YOU DEVELOP THIS AFFECTION THERE?
  • 19:55 (LAUGHING, SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 19:59 "NO, THAT'S NOTHING YOU CAN REALLY STUDY IN ANY WAY IN SEMINARY."
  • 20:02 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 20:06 "I STUDIED IN TUBINGEN AND TUBINGEN IS INFAMOUS FOR ITS LIBERAL THEOLOGY."
  • 20:10 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 20:13 "BUT ALSO FOR ANTI-SEMITISM."
  • 20:14 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 20:19 "THE UNIVERSITY OF TUBINGEN WAS THE FIRST UNIVERSITY"
  • 20:22 "IN ALL OF GERMANY WHICH WAS SO CALLED 'FREE OF JEWS'."
  • 20:24 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 20:28 "AND ONLY IN RECENT YEARS THEY STARTED WORKING THROUGH THAT."
  • 20:30 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 20:35 "BUT IT'S VERY SAD TO FACE THE FACT"
  • 20:38 "THAT DURING THE TIME OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM THE THEOLOGIANS HERE,"
  • 20:41 "THEY WERE TOO ANTI-SEMITIC."
  • 20:43 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 20:45 "BECAUSE MY UPBRINGING WAS VERY MUCH A HUMANISTIC ONE."
  • 20:47 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 20:49 "AND I DID NOT HAVE ANY CONNECTIONS TO ISRAEL OR THE JEWISH ROOTS."
  • 20:53 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 20:56 "BUT 4 YEARS AGO WE HAD A TIME OF VERY DEEP REPENTANCE."
  • 20:59 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:04 "WHERE THE LORD SPOKE TO US SAYING, "ANTI-SEMITISM" IS ANEW."
  • 21:07 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:10 "AND YOUR ANTI-SEMITISM IS YOUR SILENCE."
  • 21:12 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:15 "AND WE WERE WEEPING AND REPENTING."
  • 21:16 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:20 "AND ALL OF MINDSET, MY MESSAGE, MY THEOLOGY HAS CHANGED."
  • 21:25 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:28 "BECAUSE UNLESS WE ARE ROOTED IN OUR JEWISH ROOTS..."
  • 21:31 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:33 "WE ARE CUT OFF FROM THE SOURCE OF OUR BLESSING."
  • 21:35 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:37 "AND THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED PROCLAIMING."
  • 21:38 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:40 "WE STARTED CELEBRATING HANUKKAH IN OUR CITY OF TUBINGEN."
  • 21:43 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:44 "WE STARTED KEEPING THE JEWISH FEASTS."
  • 21:46 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:47 "WE HAD A HANUKKAH LAMP STAND IN OUR CHURCH."
  • 21:50 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:53 "AND WE STARTED CHANGING EVEN OUR DANCING."
  • 21:56 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 21:57 "AND SUDDENLY WE SAW BLESSING COME."
  • 21:59 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 22:00 "WE SAW CHANGES IN OUR CITY,"
  • 22:01 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 22:03 "WHERE WE HAD SEEN SO MUCH RESISTANCE BEFORE."
  • 22:04 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 22:06 "SO WE ARE BLESSED. WE'VE RECEIVED BLESSING FROM ISRAEL."
  • 22:08 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 22:09 "AND THAT'S NOT REALLY A THEOLOGY"
  • 22:11 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 22:12 "IT'S OUR LIFE."
  • 22:13 (SPEAKING GERMAN)
  • 22:14 "IT'S OUR HEART."
  • 22:17 WELL I'VE MET A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 22:19 AND FEW OF THEM HAS IMPRESSED ME AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE.
  • 22:21 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LIFE AND YOUR MINISTRY BOTH OF YOU.
  • 22:23 (SPEAKING GERMAN) "THANK YOU VERY MUCH."
  • 22:25 GOD BLESS >>GOD BLESS YOU THANK YOU
  • 22:29 ♪BLESS OUR PEOPLE, BLESS OUR LAND♪
  • 22:35 ♪FOR THIS IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR, WORTH DYING FOR, OH LORD.♪
  • 22:43 ♪ALWAYS DWELL WITH ISRAEL♪
  • 22:50 ♪AND GLADLY WE'LL FIGHT FOR YOU; WE'LL DIE FOR YOU, O LORD.♪
  • 22:58 ♪WHEN THE STRANGER COMES, WITH HIS SWORD.♪
  • 23:06 ♪WE WILL MEET HIM ON THE BATTLEFIELD FOR YOU, O LORD.♪
  • 23:13 ♪WHEN MESSIAH COMES, WITH HIS WORD♪
  • 23:21 ♪THEN TOGETHER FOR ETERNITY WITH YOU, OH LORD!♪
  • 23:28 ♪LET THEM COME, FOR WE ARE STRONG♪
  • 23:35 ♪TOGETHER WE'LL HOLD THIS LAND, WE'LL HONOR YOU, O LORD.♪
  • 23:43 ♪IF WE PERISH, IF WE DIE,♪
  • 23:50 ♪JEHOVAH, REMEMBER US♪
  • 23:54 ♪AND BRING US HOME AGAIN.♪
  • 23:58 ♪WHEN THE KINGDOM COMES WE'LL BE HOME♪
  • 24:06 ♪WHEN MESSIAH COMES WE'LL SING OF PEACE, WE'LL SING, "SHALOM"♪
  • 24:13 ♪WITH THE STRENGTH OF GOD, WE'LL PREVAIL♪
  • 24:21 ♪THEN WE'LL DWELL IN PEACE WITH YOU, O LORD, IN ISRAEL.♪
  • 24:28 ♪WE'LL DWELL IN PEACE WITH YOU, O LORD, IN ISRAEL.♪
  • 24:45 ♪IN ISRAEL.♪
  • 24:54 IN SO MANY WAYS WE LIVE IN A TOUGH WORLD AND BAD MOON RISING ALIGHTS UPON DIFFICULTIES IN IT.
  • 25:03 THE GOOD NEWS, HOWEVER, IS THAT INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY JESUS.
  • 25:08 WAKING UP AND THEIR STANDING UP AND JOBST BITTNER IS ONE SUCH PERSON.
  • 25:14 FELL IN LOVE WITH JESUS.
  • 25:15 FELL IN LOVE WITH THE JEWS AND WANTS TO BE A LIGHT SHINING IN A DARKENED PLACE.
  • 25:20 AND WENT TO A LIBERAL SEMINARY
  • 25:23 AND YET FELT THE CALL OF MESSIAH TO HIM
  • 25:26 AND FELT THE LOVE OF JEWS
  • 25:28 AND HE IS SPREADING THE WORD IN THAT LITTLE PART OF GERMANY.
  • 25:31 HE'S SPREADING HIS WORD.
  • 25:32 HE'S SO PROACTIVE. >>YES, YES,
  • 25:33 HE'S WONDERFUL!
  • 25:34 HE'S NOT A MEGA CHURCH PASTOR,
  • 25:36 DOESN'T HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BUT HE HAS A HEART OF GOLD.
  • 25:39 AND WHAT A DIFFERENCE HE MAKES.
  • 25:41 WELL, AND HE'S LIFTING THAT VEIL OF SILENCE.
  • 25:43 AS HE SAID, IF YOU KEEP SILENCE
  • 25:44 IT REALLY IS ANTI-SEMITISM.
  • 25:47 MY PRAYER IS THAT HE WOULD JUST MULTIPLIED, AND THAT WHAT HE'S ALL ABOUT
  • 25:51 WILL JUST GO INTO HEARTS AND HOMES ALL OVER EUROPE AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.
  • 25:55 BUT IT'S ALREADY MAKING A DIFFERENCE. YEAH....YEAH.
  • 25:58 YOU CAN TELL IN HIS CHURCH,
  • 25:59 YOU CAN TELL IN HIS DEMEANOR.
  • 26:00 HIS DEMEANOR IS SO APOLOGETIC,
  • 26:03 SO "LET ME HELP HOWEVER I CAN NOW,"
  • 26:05 "I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS RIGHT."
  • 26:07 AND BOY THAT SAYS A LOT.
  • 26:09 LORD MAKE IT HAPPEN. >>AMEN
  • 26:11 THAT ORDINARY PEOPLE CAN STAND UP AND DO EXTRAORDINARY THINGS.
  • 26:14 AMEN AND AS YOU GO,
  • 26:16 "SHA' ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM"
  • 26:18 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.
  • 26:22 OUR OFFER THIS WEEK;
  • 27:35 SHALOM FROM JERUSALEM.
  • 27:37 ACTUALLY WE'RE IN THE GARDEN OF GETHSEMANE.
  • 27:39 WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OLIVE TREES JEFF.
  • 27:41 OUR PEOPLE ARE BEHIND,
  • 27:42 THEY'RE LISTENING TO OUR GUIDE ZVI TALK
  • 27:44 AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO A BIBLE STUDY.
  • 27:46 AND THEY ARE HAVING A TRIP OF A LIFETIME.
  • 27:48 IF YOU FEEL THE LORD BECKONING YOU
  • 27:50 AND MYSTERIOUS THE BECKONING
  • 27:52 THAT HAVE BEEN DRAWING BELIEVERS TO THIS LAND FOR MILLENNIA
  • 27:56 DO JOIN US PLEASE FOR A TRIP OF A LIFETIME.
  • 27:58 SANDRA AND I KNOW YOU'LL BE BLESSED.
  • 28:01 FOR YOUR FREE BROCHURE ON OUR NEXT TOUR CALL;

Episodes in this series

  1. When Darkness Once Prevailed
  2. Out of the Darkness
  3. Dark Night of the Soul
  4. Bright Lights in a Darkened World
  5. The Darkness That Nearly Engulfed Us
  6. Letting the Sun Shine
  7. A Star That Breaks Through the Darkness
  8. Heavenly Light From Hellish Darkness

Hosts

Sandra Levitt
Jeff Seif
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