“Pre-Trib Conference”

909     28:32     First aired 2006-07-16     [CC]
Episode 4 of 7 in the series “Revelation Extra”

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Caption transcript for Revelation Extra: “Pre-Trib Conference” (4/7)

  • 00:48 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
  • 00:50 YOU KNOW PROPHECY CONFERENCES KIND OF COME AND GO.
  • 00:52 I'VE SPOKEN AT THEM FOR YEARS.
  • 00:54 [CLEARS THROAT] EXCUSE ME.
  • 00:56 MY VOICE IS A LITTLE BIT DOWN.
  • 00:58 THEY WERE GOOD IN THE 70S AND 80S, BACK WHEN ISRAEL HAD WON ITS 67 WAR AND 73 WAR.
  • 01:05 IT LOOKED LIKE THE LORD WAS COMING AND PEOPLE MET ALL THE TIME TALKING ABOUT PROPHECY.
  • 01:09 AND THEN FOR A WHILE IT SEEMED LIKE IT DIED OFF.
  • 01:12 I WASN'T INVITED TO THESE THINGS AND NOT MANY PEOPLE TOOK UP PROPHECY.
  • 01:17 AND NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK.
  • 01:19 SOMETIMES THERE ARE LARGE BALLROOMS.
  • 01:21 TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ONE.
  • 01:23 LAST FALL I WAS PLEASED TO BE A SPEAKER AT A VERY WELL ATTENDED PROPHECY CONFERENCE.
  • 01:28 WHILE THERE, OUR CAMERAS WERE ABLE TO CATCH UP
  • 01:31 WITH SEVERAL INFLUENTIAL CHRISTIAN PERSONALITIES.
  • 01:34 AND WE GET THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT PROPHECY.
  • 01:38 WE HAD A LARGE PHILCO RADIO IN OUR LIVING ROOM
  • 01:42 AND IN MAY OF 1948 MY DAD TOLD US ALL TO GET QUIET
  • 01:47 AND WE SAT AROUND WAITING A LONG TIME
  • 01:50 THAT THE, THEN PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL, DAVID BEN-GURION
  • 01:54 WAS GOING TO ANNOUNCE TO THE WORLD THE NAME OF THE LAND.
  • 01:57 SO WE'RE ALL WAITING AND WAITING.
  • 01:59 AND I DIDN'T KNOW AS A YOUNG BOY WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE EXCITED ABOUT.
  • 02:03 BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN, WELL, IT'S JUST LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY.
  • 02:10 THE NAME OF THAT LAND IS, OF COURSE, WHAT'S IN THE BIBLE, ERETZ, MEANING LAND, ISRAEL.
  • 02:17 ERETZ ISRAEL.
  • 02:19 HE SAID THE NAME OF THAT LAND WILL BE EXACTLY WHAT EZEKIEL THE PROPHET SAID IT WOULD BE.
  • 02:25 WELL, EVEN THE UNITED STATES WAS QUITE SHOCKED.
  • 02:27 THEY THOUGHT THE WORD PALESTINE WAS GOING TO BE IN THE NAME.
  • 02:31 AND IT DIDN'T TAKE US LONG, I THINK IT WAS 3 MINUTES,
  • 02:35 BUT, I KNOW THAT HARRY TRUMAN, THE PRESIDENT THEN,
  • 02:37 ACTUALLY WENT AGAINST THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND CONGRESS, AND I THANK GOD FOR THAT.
  • 02:44 YOU KNOW HE'S THE ONE WHO HAD THE SIGN ON HIS DESK - "THE BUCK STOPS HERE".
  • 02:49 HE BECAME A VERY GREAT FRIEND OF ISRAEL.
  • 02:54 THEY SAY, YOU EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS,
  • 02:55 YOU FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS, YOU PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE
  • 02:57 THAT ISRAEL HAS A FUTURE ARE DANGEROUS.
  • 03:00 PERHAPS CHRISTIAN ZIONISM, THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE MOVEMENT IN AMERICA THEY WOULD SAY.
  • 03:04 THEY WOULD SAY POPULAR BOOKS LIKE THE "LEFT BEHIND" SERIES AND OTHERS
  • 03:07 ARE CREATING A GRASS ROOTS SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL THAT IS AFFECTING GOVERNMENT POLICY
  • 03:13 SO THE MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A FUTURE FOR ISRAEL
  • 03:18 AND NEED TO SUPPORT THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO THAT EXTENT IT CHANGES FOREIGN POLICY.
  • 03:22 AND, THEREFORE, IT INVITES DESTRUCTION FOR OUR OWN COUNTRY.
  • 03:26 THEIR BELIEF IS THAT THE ARAB-ISLAMIC WORLD IN ITS HATRED FOR ISRAEL
  • 03:31 THEN ATTACKS THE WEST AS A RESULT.
  • 03:33 THE VERY FACT THAT CHRISTIANS, THEN ARE INFLUENCING THE GOVERNMENT TO SUPPORT ISRAEL
  • 03:38 AND ISRAEL, THEN IS BRINGING TERRORISM TO OUR SHORES,
  • 03:41 IS LEADING THE WHOLE COUNTRY AND ULTIMATELY THE WORLD TOWARD ARMAGEDDON.
  • 03:45 SO WE ARE THE MOST CULPABLE OF ALL PEOPLE.
  • 03:50 THE FACT IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT MAKES GOOD SENSE OR GOOD POLITICS.
  • 03:53 IT MATTERS WHETHER IT MAKES GOOD SCRIPTURE.
  • 03:55 WHAT THEY'RE NOT TELLING PEOPLE IS THAT THE BIBLE ITSELF SUPPORTS, SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL.
  • 04:01 IT WAS GOD'S IDEA.
  • 04:02 HE CALLED THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO HIMSELF.
  • 04:04 HE MADE THEM A NATION.
  • 04:06 HE PROMISED THEM A FUTURE.
  • 04:08 AND HE SAID IT WAS FOREVER, NOT JUST UNTIL THE JEWISH PEOPLE REJECTED HIM
  • 04:13 OR UNTIL HISTORY REMOVED THEM FROM THE LAND.
  • 04:15 NO, FOREVER.
  • 04:17 THAT MEANS THE GOD WHO CAN DO THE IMPOSSIBLE, CAN ALWAYS BRING THEM BACK.
  • 04:20 OF COURSE, HE HAS BROUGHT THEM BACK AND THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE CURRENT ISSUE.
  • 04:24 I THINK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BEGINNING STAGE
  • 04:29 OF THE SCENARIO THAT WE HAVE PAINTED IN EZEKIEL 36:37-39.
  • 04:36 EZEKIEL 36 IS THAT REMARKABLE PASSAGE THAT SPEAKS ABOUT
  • 04:40 THE RESTORATION OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
  • 04:45 IT'S NOT BY COINCIDENCE THAT THE FOLLOWING CHAPTERS
  • 04:48 BEGIN TO SPEAK OF AN ALLIANCE BETWEEN NATIONS
  • 04:53 THAT TODAY ARE IN FACT THE ISLAMIC MILITANT NATIONS WHERE WE FIND THE SEED-BED
  • 04:59 OF ISLAMIC MILITARISM; MILITANT, RADICAL, VIOLENT ISLAM.
  • 05:05 AND NOW THE PICTURE WE HAVE PAINTED IN THE BOOK OF EZEKIEL
  • 05:09 SAYS THAT THESE VERY NATIONS TOGETHER WITH AN ALLIANCE WITH THE COUNTRIES TO THE NORTH,
  • 05:15 WHICH WE WOULD CALL THE FORMER SOVIET UNION, WILL, IN FACT AT SOME POINT,
  • 05:21 SEEK TO STRIKE AT THE NATION OF ISRAEL.
  • 05:24 NOW, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST, KEN,
  • 05:29 TO SEE THAT THIS PICTURE IS RAPIDLY EMERGING.
  • 05:33 WHEN AND WHERE IT WILL FIND ITS FULFILLMENT WE DON'T KNOW,
  • 05:37 BUT CERTAINLY EVENTS IN ISRAEL ARE ESCALATING ALL THE TIME
  • 05:41 THAT THE PICTURE THAT THE BIBLE PAINTS IN MANY INSTANCES ARE NO LONGER FUTURISTIC,
  • 05:48 BUT THEY ARE IN THE PRESENT AND CERTAINLY, I THINK,
  • 05:52 WE ARE ON THIS COUNTDOWN TO THIS PICTURE BEING TOTALLY FULFILLED.
  • 05:57 IT'S THERE FOR EVERYONE TO READ, FOR EVERYONE TO SEE,
  • 06:00 BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THIS PICTURE
  • 06:03 IS THE GOD OF ISRAEL STEPS IN AT ONE POINT, IS STIRRED UP IN HIS ANGER TO RESIST THESE NATIONS,
  • 06:10 TO DEFEND ISRAEL, TO OVERTHROW THESE NATIONS, AND TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE WORLD THEREBY
  • 06:17 THAT HE IS THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD, THE GOD OF THE BIBLE,
  • 06:21 THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB.
  • 06:24 THE POSITION OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY AND THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST CHRISTIAN ZIONISM
  • 06:28 IS THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS SIMPLY THE CHURCH.
  • 06:31 THE CHURCH, WHICH IS MADE UP LARGELY OF GENTILES WITH SOME JEWS,
  • 06:36 BUT THEY BELIEVE JEWS WHO NOW HAVE CONVERTED AND CHANGED THEIR IDENTITY
  • 06:39 TO BECOME CHRISTIAN ARE NO LONGER JEWISH FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
  • 06:43 THIS IS THE CHURCH, THE KINGDOM OF GOD,
  • 06:45 AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ELSE AFTER THIS EXCEPT TO HAVE AN ETERNAL STATE,
  • 06:51 WHICH HEAVEN IS PART OF THAT EQUATION,
  • 06:53 BUT REALLY A RESURRECTION OF ALL PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.
  • 06:57 THE CHURCH IS THE END OF ALL THINGS.
  • 06:59 AND YET, IF THAT'S THE CASE, AS JESUS AND HIS DISCIPLES ARE TALKING,
  • 07:04 WHEN THEY COME TO THE MOUNT OF OLIVES
  • 07:06 HAVING BEEN TAUGHT FOR 40 DAYS ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF GOD, THE DISCIPLES SAY TO HIM,
  • 07:09 LORD, NOW IS IT AT THIS TIME YOU'RE GOING TO RESTORE THE KINGDOM TO ISRAEL?
  • 07:15 WELL, NOW IF JESUS COULD HAVE REPLIED AND SAID, OH, NO, YOU MISUNDERSTAND.
  • 07:20 THE KINGDOM IS WITHIN YOU.
  • 07:21 THE KINGDOM IS THE CHURCH, WHICH IS ABOUT TO BE ESTABLISHED AT PENTECOST.
  • 07:24 OH, NO, WE'RE THROUGH WITH ISRAEL.
  • 07:26 ISRAEL HAS REJECTED ITS MESSIAH.
  • 07:28 THERE'S NO MORE FUTURE FOR ISRAEL.
  • 07:30 HE DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
  • 07:32 HIS REPLY IS,
  • 07:43 THAT WAS THE MISSION OF THIS CHURCH IS TO CARRY THE WORD OUT TO THE WORLD.
  • 07:49 ULTIMATELY, IF WE UNDERSTAND WHAT PROPHECY SAYS,
  • 07:51 THEN ONE DAY THE WORLD WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO JERUSALEM
  • 07:54 WHERE IT ALL BEGAN TO HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE HE IS GOING TO COME BACK.
  • 07:59 I THINK SOME OF THE SCENARIOS THAT SOME CHRISTIANS PAINT OF THIS CONCLUSIONS
  • 08:05 ARE QUITE FRANKLY, WRONG.
  • 08:07 FOR INSTANCES THERE'S THE ARMAGEDDON SCENARIO THAT'S TAKEN FROM ZECHARIAH 13:8,
  • 08:12 THAT 2/3 OF THE PEOPLE WILL BE CUT OFF AND ALL THIS.
  • 08:15 PEOPLE SAY WHAT ARE YOU DOING THIS FOR?
  • 08:17 YOU'RE BRINGING THESE PEOPLE BACK.
  • 08:19 YOU HELP THEM, YOU BLESS THEM, BUT THEY ARE SLAUGHTERED.
  • 08:22 YOU SEE, I THINK THAT IS TOTALLY ERRONEOUS.
  • 08:24 I DO NOT THINK IT STANDS ON ANY BIBLICAL FOUNDATION WHATSOEVER.
  • 08:29 I THINK THE SCRIPTURES TEACH THAT GOD BRINGS ISRAEL BACK.
  • 08:33 ISAIAH 60 SAYS THE NATIONS WILL GO DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO DARKNESS, BUT ISRAEL WILL ARISE,
  • 08:39 ARISE INTO THE LIGHT AND GLORY OF GOD.
  • 08:41 AS FOR THE ZECHARIAH 13:8 PASSAGE, THE CONTEXT TEACHES IF YOU READ IT CAREFULLY,
  • 08:49 AND THE REALITY ON THE GROUND VERIFIES THAT IN A.D. 70,
  • 08:54 2/3 OF THE COUNTRY OF THE JEWISH POPULATION WERE CUT OFF.
  • 09:00 THAT'S ABOUT THE SHEPHERD PASSAGE WHERE HE IS STRUCK AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED
  • 09:04 AND IT GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT THE EVENTS I BELIEVE AS JESUS TAUGHT IN MARK 13, MATTHEW 24, LUKE 21
  • 09:12 OF THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM IN A.D. 70.
  • 09:16 SURELY IT IS NO COINCIDENCE THAT 2/3 OF THE JEWISH POPULATION LIVING IN THE LAND AT THAT TIME
  • 09:23 WERE IN FACT CUT OFF, WERE IN FACT LIQUIDATED BY THE ROMANS
  • 09:27 AND THE OTHERS WERE TAKEN INTO EXILE.
  • 09:29 BUT, I BELIEVE THAT ISRAEL WILL GO THROUGH CHALLENGING TIMES.
  • 09:34 BELIEVE ME, THE WORLD IS GOING TO GO THROUGH A GREATER AND BIGGER TIME OF DIFFICULTY.
  • 09:41 THIS TINY NATION WILL HAVE ITS CHALLENGES AND ITS CONFLICTS,
  • 09:45 BUT THE GOD OF ISRAEL WILL DEFEND HER, BRING HER THROUGH IT,
  • 09:49 AND WILL BLESS HER AND BRING HER TO THE AGE AS THE JEWISH SAGES SAY OF REDEMPTION.
  • 09:55 THE WORLD IS WHAT I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT.
  • 09:58 BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS GOD WILL MAKE A FULL END OF THE NATIONS.
  • 10:02 THE TINY ISRAEL HE WILL REDEEM.
  • 10:04 SO, MY ESTIMATION TO STAND WITH ISRAEL, TO LOVE ISRAEL, TO BLESS HER,
  • 10:10 IS TO BE ON THE WINNING SIDE, NOT THE LOSING SIDE.
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  • 11:01 HAVE YOU SEEN THE PROMISED LAND WHERE THE DISCIPLES CAST THEIR NETS,
  • 11:09 WHERE JESUS GAVE THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT,
  • 11:13 WHERE ROMAN COLUMNS STILL STAND,
  • 11:17 WHERE THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS WERE FOUND,
  • 11:21 WHERE BIBLE PROPHECY IS BEING FULFILLED?
  • 11:26 OPEN YOUR EYES TO ISRAEL.
  • 11:30 WELL, THERE'S ISRAEL AS WE SEE IT, COME ON ALONG.
  • 11:34 BELIEVE ME, THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE.
  • 11:38 NOW BACK THERE AT THAT PRE-TRIB CONFERENCE, WHICH IT REALLY WAS CALLED,
  • 11:41 I MET SOME PERSONALITIES, ESPECIALLY TIM LAHAYE,
  • 11:45 WHO, OF COURSE, HAS AUTHORED THIS "LEFT BEHIND" SERIES.
  • 11:49 HE HAS DONE A GREAT DEAL OF GOOD WORK.
  • 11:51 WE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT HIS VIEWS OF WHAT'S COMING UP.
  • 11:55 WELL, TIM, HERE WE ARE AT PROPHECY CONFERENCE WHERE WE USUALLY MEET.
  • 12:00 YOU'RE THE AUTHOR OF THIS TERRIFIC PROPHECY SERIES, "LEFT BEHIND".
  • 12:06 HOW MANY COPIES HAVE BEEN SOLD?
  • 12:08 ABOUT 60 MILLION.
  • 12:10 INCREDIBLE.
  • 12:11 OF COURSE, THERE ARE 14 OF THEM.
  • 12:13 THE FIRST BOOK SOLD 8 MILLION PLUS.
  • 12:17 AND EACH ONE IS KIND OF GATHERING MOMENTUM.
  • 12:19 THEY PUT IT ALL TOGETHER.
  • 12:21 IT'S BEEN A MIRACLE TO BOTH JERRY JENKINS AND MYSELF.
  • 12:24 DO YOU THINK YOU'VE CHANGED THE THINKING OF SECULAR PEOPLE?
  • 12:28 WELL, TWO THINGS.
  • 12:30 THE NEW YORK TIMES DOESN'T COMPLIMENT ME VERY OFTEN AS YOU KNOW,
  • 12:33 BUT, THEY WERE COMMENTING ABOUT THIS
  • 12:35 AND THE PHENOMENAL SALE OF THESE THINGS AND THAT PEOPLE WERE READING THEM.
  • 12:39 THEY SAID, AND THE AMAZING THING ABOUT IT IS, IT'S UNASHAMEDLY CHRISTIAN.
  • 12:45 [LAUGHING]
  • 12:47 I KIND OF LIKE THAT.
  • 12:49 YES, PEOPLE ARE READING THEM.
  • 12:52 ONE OF THE REASONS I WENT INTO FICTION IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY FICTION READERS
  • 12:57 THAT NEVER READ OUR NONFICTION MATERIAL.
  • 12:59 I HAD WRITTEN SOMETHING LIKE 50 NONFICTION BOOKS, HAD 13 MILLION IN PRINT,
  • 13:05 BUT THERE'S THIS ARMY OF PEOPLE THAT READ FICTION AND I WANTED TO REACH THEM.
  • 13:10 SO I PRAYED.
  • 13:11 MORE THAN ONCE I WAS CONVINCED THAT I COULDN'T WRITE FICTION,
  • 13:15 I GAVE MY IDEA TO JERRY JENKINS AND TOGETHER WE TEAMED UP.
  • 13:20 HE'S JUST A GREAT FICTION WRITER.
  • 13:22 SO MANY LETTERS FROM PEOPLE WHO GET SAVED, INCLUDING JEWS.
  • 13:28 DO YOU KNOW I COUNTED JUST THE OTHER DAY
  • 13:30 IN THE LAST 4 WEEKS, 6 JEWS HAVE CONTACTED US TO SHARE WITH US HOW THEY CAME TO FAITH IN JESUS.
  • 13:37 IT'S BEEN INTERESTING.
  • 13:39 ARE YOU SEEING, SENSING A MOVING OF THE SPIRIT IN AN UNUSUAL WAY AMONG THE JEWISH PEOPLE?
  • 13:45 OH, YES.
  • 13:47 I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THERE'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND MESSIANIC BELIEVERS,
  • 13:51 JEWISH CHRISTIANS IN AMERICA.
  • 13:53 I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, TIM, WHEN I WAS SAVED IN 1971,
  • 13:57 I THINK I KNEW ALL THE JEWISH BELIEVERS.
  • 13:59 IT IS THRILLING TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE CONTEMPLATING IT.
  • 14:03 I TALKED TO A DOCTOR AND A LAWYER, MARRIED,
  • 14:07 THAT ACCEPTED CHRIST JUST BY THE WITNESS OF CHRISTIANS AND BY READING THE BIBLE.
  • 14:13 THE BIBLE SPOKE TO THEM IN UNMISTAKABLE TERMS.
  • 14:16 THE DOCTOR TOOK SOMETHING LIKE 15 YEARS TO COME TO FAITH IN CHRIST,
  • 14:20 BUT HE CAME ON HIS OWN AND HE JUST PREMEDITATEDLY DECIDED THAT JESUS WAS THE MESSIAH.
  • 14:27 SO, HE RECEIVED HIM AND HE SAID JUST EVERYTHING OPENED UP TO ME JUST LIKE NEW GLASSES.
  • 14:34 YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ENCOURAGING THINGS ABOUT SALVATION
  • 14:38 IS WHEN IT HAPPENED TO PEOPLE THEY DON'T CHANGE THEIR MIND AFTERWARDS.
  • 14:43 THEY DON'T SEND IT BACK.
  • 14:44 ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
  • 14:46 IT'S A THRILLING TESTIMONY TO THE REALITY OF OUR FAITH.
  • 14:49 YOU KNOW, IN FAIRNESS TO PETER JENNINGS, WHO'S GONE TO HIS REWARD WHEREVER THAT IS,
  • 14:54 PETER JENNINGS WAS DOING A LIFE OF CHRIST, NOT A LIFE OF CHRIST, BUT A PROGRAM ABOUT CHRIST
  • 15:02 AND HE ENDED UP BY SAYING AND UNFORTUNATELY
  • 15:05 HE DIDN'T HAVE ONE SINGLE CONSERVATIVE ON THERE THAT HE WOULD INTERVIEW.
  • 15:08 HE'D BROUGHT A LOT OF THE JESUS SEMINAR SKEPTICS.
  • 15:11 BUT, AT THE END HE SAID THIS AND I THINK IT'S SO PROFOUND,
  • 15:15 HE SAID, BUT YOU KNOW CHRISTIANITY IS A RELIGION BASED ON RESURRECTION
  • 15:22 AND THE BEST PROOF THEY HAVE FOR THE REALITY FOR THE RESURRECTION IS CHRISTIANITY ITSELF.
  • 15:30 CHRISTIANITY WOULD NOT EXIST WERE IT NOT FOR THE REALITY OF THE RESURRECTION.
  • 15:35 OH, HE'S RIGHT.
  • 15:37 HE'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
  • 15:39 WHO WOULD BE FOLLOWING JESUS THE NAZARENE IF HE HADN'T RISEN FROM THE DEAD
  • 15:45 AND HAD SO MUCH POWERFUL EVIDENCE AND IN HIS APPEARANCES?
  • 15:49 PAUL SAYS WE DEFEAT THE LAST ENEMY.
  • 15:52 THAT'S ONE OF MY GOALS IS TO WORK WITH A MOVIE COMPANY.
  • 15:57 WE'LL BE ANNOUNCING IT PUBLICLY IN ABOUT 2 MONTHS.
  • 16:00 WE JUST FINALIZED THE CONTRACT.
  • 16:03 THE IDEA WILL BE TO FOLLOW UP THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST WITH A HIGH QUALITY,
  • 16:09 PROFESSIONALLY MADE MOVIE ON THE RESURRECTION APPEARANCES.
  • 16:14 OH, HOW WONDERFUL.
  • 16:16 I CONVINCED THEM THAT THE PASSION, AS GREAT A STORY AS IT WAS,
  • 16:20 IS NOT THE REAL STORY OF CHRISTIANITY.
  • 16:24 THE REAL STORY IS THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS.
  • 16:27 I TRIED TO CONVINCE MEL GIBSON OF THAT BEFORE HE CAME OUT WITH THIS.
  • 16:30 I SAW IT, HE HAD US IN. WE REVIEWED IT.
  • 16:33 HE JUST KIND OF CHANGED IT A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT KIND OF SYMBOLIC.
  • 16:37 BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOVIE ON THE REAL STORY.
  • 16:40 CAN YOU IMAGINE A PRESENTATION OF PETER AND JOHN GOING DOWN INTO THE TOMB?
  • 16:46 THEY'VE HEARD THAT JESUS IS MISSING.
  • 16:48 PETER LOOKS AROUND AND HE'S WONDERING WHERE HE LEFT HIS BODY.
  • 16:51 SO HE GOES OUTSIDE.
  • 16:53 BUT JOHN, THE MEDITATIVE, REFLECTIVE ONE GOES IN THERE
  • 16:57 AND HE SEES THE GRAVE CLOTHES IN PERFECT ORDER
  • 17:00 AND THE HANDKERCHIEF FOLDED AND LEFT BY ITSELF.
  • 17:04 AND HE REALIZES THAT THE BODY OF JESUS HAS JUST RISEN THROUGH THE GRAVE CLOTHES.
  • 17:09 AND THE SCRIPTURE SAYS JOHN SAW AND HE BELIEVED.
  • 17:14 HE WAS THE FIRST ONE, I THINK THAT RESPONDED TO THE RESURRECTION.
  • 17:18 AND WHEN I SHARED THIS WITH THE PEOPLE IN HOLLYWOOD,
  • 17:21 THEY WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THEY COULD DO GRAPHICALLY AND PICTORIALLY
  • 17:26 TO MAKE IT COME TO LIFE.
  • 17:28 WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
  • 17:30 GOLLY, THERE'S JUST NO GREATER STORY TO FILM.
  • 17:33 THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
  • 17:34 IN FACT, ZOLA, I'M ASKING GOD IN MY LIFETIME
  • 17:38 TO LET ME SEE THROUGH MOVIES AT LEAST A MILLION COME TO FAITH IN CHRIST.
  • 17:43 I GET KIND OF GOOSE BUMPS BECAUSE ALL MY LIFE
  • 17:46 I TAUGHT THAT WE OUGHT TO USE THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM TO ADVANCE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
  • 17:51 NOW I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY MYSELF TO USE HOLLYWOOD'S NICKEL
  • 17:54 TO BRING PEOPLE TO A SAVING KNOWLEDGE OF JESUS.
  • 17:57 THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
  • 17:59 YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST THE MAN TO DO THAT.
  • 18:01 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT I KNOW FOOLS RUSH IN WHERE ANGELS FEAR TO TREAD
  • 18:08 AND I'VE NEVER BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING AN ANGEL.
  • 18:10 I'VE WATCHED YOUR MINISTRY FOR A LONG TIME.
  • 18:13 YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE WHAT THE LORD SAID.
  • 18:17 YOU'VE STRUCK OUT THERE AND GOT THE JOB DONE.
  • 18:19 JUST AS THE SCRIPTURE SAYS, YOU'RE FAITHFUL IN A FEW THINGS AND NOW YOU'RE RULER OVER MANY.
  • 18:26 YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO BAD YOURSELF.
  • 18:27 YOU'VE BEEN BEATING THE SAME TUB THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR 35 YEARS.
  • 18:31 HERE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT JESUS AND GETTING THE PROPHETIC WORD,
  • 18:34 TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO FACE THE FACT THAT HE'S COMING WHETHER THEY'RE READY OR NOT.
  • 18:40 OUR DREAM, AND I KNOW YOU SHARE THIS, WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE LEFT BEHIND.
  • 18:45 HOW SOON DO YOU THINK IT IS?
  • 18:48 DO YOU HAVE A HUNCH?
  • 18:50 I HAVE THIS GUT FEELING THAT MY WIFE AND I ARE GOING UP IN THE RAPTURE TOGETHER.
  • 18:53 I SUPPOSE YOU AND YOUR WIFE HAVE THE SAME FEELING.
  • 18:55 ABSOLUTELY, I ALWAYS HAVE THAT FEELING.
  • 18:57 IF HE'S COMING IN MY LIFETIME, HE BETTER COME PRETTY QUICK.
  • 19:02 I HAD A BYPASS OPERATION RECENTLY, A FEW MONTHS AGO.
  • 19:07 THAT'S MY SECOND ONE AND THERE'S ALWAYS A MOMENT THERE
  • 19:10 WHERE YOU REALLY WONDER IF THAT'S THE END OF THE LINE.
  • 19:14 YET EACH TIME I THINK, WELL, WHEN I WAKE UP I'LL EITHER SEE THE DOCTOR OR THE KING.
  • 19:20 I CAN'T LOSE.
  • 19:21 WELL, I CARRY A PACEMAKER AROUND JUST TO KEEP THAT THINK GOING
  • 19:24 AND I'VE HAD A STINT IN MY HEART AND A FEW OTHER FALSE PARTS,
  • 19:27 BUT WHEN THE RAPTURE OCCURS, YOU WON'T BELIEVE THE JUNK I'M GOING TO LEAVE BEHIND.
  • 19:31 I COULD USE A NEW BODY AS WELL.
  • 19:34 SERIOUSLY, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE IN DEFAULT OF
  • 19:40 OR WE COULD SPEND MORE TIME AS CHRISTIANS, THE BODY OF CHRIST
  • 19:44 TELLING ABOUT THE WONDERFUL PLAN GOD HAS FOR OUR FUTURE.
  • 19:48 INSTEAD OF GETTING PEOPLE ALL WORKED UP ABOUT DOS AND DONTS,
  • 19:51 WE OUGHT TO GET PEOPLE TO REALIZE THAT THE BEST YEARS ARE YET TO COME.
  • 19:56 SOMEONE HAS SAGELY SAID, YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE AN EVANGELIST,
  • 20:00 BUT, SOME EVANGELIST SAID, FOR THE UNSAVED, THIS WORLD IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS,
  • 20:08 BUT FOR BELIEVERS THIS WORLD IS AS BAD AS IT GETS.
  • 20:11 OH, THAT'S GOOD.
  • 20:13 THE BEST IS YET TO COME.
  • 20:14 I WAS TALKING TO HAL LINDSEY.
  • 20:16 I TOLD HIM HIS HAIR IS GETTING GRAY.
  • 20:18 OF COURSE, I HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK.
  • 20:21 I TOLD HIM, WE'RE GETTING OLDER.
  • 20:23 WHO IS THERE BEHIND US TO CONTINUE TO TEACH THIS PROPHECY
  • 20:26 AND TO SOUND THE WARNING OF THE END TIMES?
  • 20:29 HE SAID, WELL, THAT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY.
  • 20:33 [LAUGHS]
  • 20:36 OR MAYBE IT WILL BE SOME OF OUR DISCIPLES LIKE YOU WERE HERE
  • 20:39 AND GAVE AN EXCELLENT MESSAGE TO OUR CROWD TODAY.
  • 20:42 PROPHECY IS GROWING.
  • 20:43 I THINK THAT WE HAVE THE WINNING MESSAGE.
  • 20:47 IT REMINDS ME WHEN I WAS A SAN DIEGO PASTOR FOR 25 YEARS, I WAS A SAN DIEGO CHARGER FAN.
  • 20:53 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE A FOOTBALL FAN.
  • 20:54 WELL, I'M A DALLAS COWBOY FAN.
  • 20:56 WELL, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS.
  • 20:57 HERE WAS ONE OF THOSE GAMES WHERE THEY WERE JUST GOING BACK AND FORTH
  • 21:00 AND WE WERE 4 POINTS BEHIND AND JUST COULDN'T CATCH UP
  • 21:03 AND FINALLY 30 SECONDS BEFORE THE END OF THE GAME
  • 21:07 LANCE ALWORTH GETS IN THE HUDDLE AND HE SAYS TO JOHN HADLE,
  • 21:10 THROW IT AS FAR AS YOU CAN, I'LL CATCH IT.
  • 21:14 IN THE END ZONE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
  • 21:16 SURE ENOUGH, HE REARS BACK AND WITH SECONDS ON THE CLOCK
  • 21:20 HE CAUGHT THAT PASS AND WE WON BY 3 POINTS.
  • 21:23 I'VE OFTEN THOUGHT OF THE SECOND COMING LIKE THAT.
  • 21:25 IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE LOSING, WE'RE LOSING, WE CAN'T CATCH UP,
  • 21:28 BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, JESUS IS GOING TO SHOUT FROM HEAVEN,
  • 21:31 WE'RE ALL GOING UP AT THE SAME TIME AND EVERYONE THAT KNOWS HIM IS GOING TO BE SAVED,
  • 21:37 BE CHANGED AND WE'LL BE WITH HIM FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER.
  • 21:41 WE MUST BE RIGHT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TEACHING IN THE END TIMES PROPHECY
  • 21:46 BECAUSE WE'VE LIVED A SPAN OF TIME LONG ENOUGH THAT SOMETHING SHOULD GO WRONG,
  • 21:52 SOMETHING WE SAID WAY BACK SHOULD NOT BE COMING OUT,
  • 21:57 BUT EVERYTHING IS THE WAY WE TAUGHT IT TODAY THEN WHEN WE STARTED.
  • 22:01 THAT'S THE AMAZING THING.
  • 22:03 I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY.
  • 22:04 I WENT INTO PRINT ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS
  • 22:09 AND I DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE.
  • 22:12 LITTLE MINOR THINGS, DETAILS, APPLICATIONS, BUT NOT THE DOCTRINE.
  • 22:16 JESUS IS COMING AND I'M MORE CONVINCED OF IT THAN EVER BEFORE.
  • 22:20 AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN WE DID OUR STUDY BIBLE,
  • 22:23 I POINTED OUT THE USUAL THING THAT THERE ARE 109 PROPHECIES OF JESUS' FIRST COMING.
  • 22:28 WE DISCOVERED BY A COMPUTER RESEARCH
  • 22:30 THAT THERE ARE 321 PROPHECIES OF JESUS' SECOND COMING.
  • 22:34 SO, THE FIRST COMING IS A CERTIFIED, HISTORICAL FACT.
  • 22:39 THEREFORE, THE SECOND COMING SHOULD BE THREE TIMES AS CERTAIN TO OCCUR.
  • 22:43 I'M PUTTING MY TRUST IN THAT.
  • 22:46 TIM, THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING.
  • 22:48 THANK YOU, AND KEEP ON DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, IT'S RIGHT.
  • 22:52 ♪HAS MESSIAH COME? ♪HAS THE KING RETURNED?
  • 22:56 ♪ARE WE SAVED? ♪O BLESSED BE HE!
  • 23:00 ♪WHEN THE KING COMES HONE ♪TO THE LAND HE LOVES
  • 23:05 ♪WE CAN LIVE, WE CAN PRAY, ♪WE CAN BE!
  • 23:13 ♪ISRAEL MY LOVE, ♪ISRAEL MY PROMISED,
  • 23:22 ♪CHOSEN OF GOD ♪CHOSEN FOR ME
  • 23:30 ♪HOMELAND FOREVER ♪LAND OF MESSIAH
  • 23:37 ♪ISRAEL, MY LOVE,
  • 23:47 ♪OUR GOD WATCHES THEE.
  • 24:01 MOST OF THESE ACCOMPLISHED MEN AT THE PRE-TRIB CONFERENCE
  • 24:08 CERTAINLY ENCOURAGED ME TO CONTINUE PROMOTING ISRAEL.
  • 24:12 OUR MINISTRY DOES ISRAEL.
  • 24:14 THAT'S ALL IT'S DONE FOR 35 YEARS.
  • 24:16 I HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF CHURCHES THAT DON'T LOOK AT ISRAEL OR UNDERSTAND THE PLACE
  • 24:21 OR LOOK AT WHAT GOD IS DOING THERE.
  • 24:25 IT'S AMAZING TO ME, MY MOUTH FALLS OPEN.
  • 24:28 SEMINARIES ARE FALLING AWAY FROM IT.
  • 24:30 I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
  • 24:32 UNTIL THE LAST DAY OF THIS MINISTRY WE'RE GOING TO PROMOTE ISRAEL.
  • 24:36 WE'RE GOING TO TEACH IT TO YOU. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU THERE.
  • 24:39 WE'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.
  • 24:41 BECAUSE BELIEVERS NEED TO KNOW IT.
  • 24:43 ISRAEL IS GOD'S TIMEPIECE.
  • 24:45 BY LOOKING AT IT YOU CAN TELL WHAT'S COMING UP.
  • 24:47 THE UNBELIEVING CHURCH DON'T KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WHAT'S COMING UP.
  • 24:52 AT LEAST BELIEVERS CAN LOOK AT IT AND GET A VERY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
  • 24:59 BY THE WAY, I WON'T STOP. I WILL NEVER STOP.
  • 25:03 IF YOU TUNE INTO THIS PROGRAM IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT ISRAEL
  • 25:05 AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO PRAY FOR JERUSALEM AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM
  • 25:08 AND THAT WILL BE CONSTANT.
  • 25:11 WITH THAT SAID, I'M FIGHTING LUNG CANCER RIGHT NOW.
  • 25:16 I ANNOUNCED THAT ON A PAST PROGRAM.
  • 25:19 I GUESS A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW IT.
  • 25:20 I CERTAINLY HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS AND LETTERS AND SO ON.
  • 25:25 IT'S A TROUBLING DISEASE, OBVIOUSLY.
  • 25:28 THERE'S NO REAL CURE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO DO TO TRY TO KEEP GOING.
  • 25:33 BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS ARE IN MY FAVOR.
  • 25:37 ONE IS I'M COUNTING ON THE RAPTURE.
  • 25:41 IT'S NOT SO STRANGE AN IDEA WITH WHAT I SEE GOING ON IN THE WORLD.
  • 25:45 AGAIN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ISRAEL, YOU CAN SEE IRAN AND THIS LOONY PRESIDENT OF THEIRS
  • 25:53 WANTING TO WIPE IT OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH, AT LEAST HE SAYS,
  • 25:56 AND BUILDING NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND SO ON.
  • 25:58 THIS LEADS TO A MAJOR SHOWDOWN.
  • 26:02 OR YOU COULD EVEN LOOK AT HAMAS, PAPER TIGERS,
  • 26:05 BUT THERE THEY ARE MARCHING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS.
  • 26:08 THEY COULD PULL SOME ATTACK ON ISRAEL.
  • 26:11 THAT WOULD PRECIPITATE SOMETHING LIKE GOG AND MAGOG, A FULL SCALE INVASION OF ISRAEL.
  • 26:17 IN ANY CASE, HOWEVER IT HAPPENS, THE LORD TAKES UP OUT OF HERE AT THAT POINT
  • 26:23 BEFORE THAT GOG AND MAGOG INVASION.
  • 26:26 SO FRANKLY, I COUNT ON GOD AND SO SHOULD YOU.
  • 26:31 FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE BE SAVED.
  • 26:34 IF YOU'RE IN ONE OF THESE LOST CHURCHES GET OUT OF THERE AND GO TO A REAL CHURCH.
  • 26:38 I WAS SAVED IN 1971.
  • 26:40 I'VE HAD A GREAT LIFE.
  • 26:41 IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL. IT REALLY HAS.
  • 26:50 I'LL TELL YOU, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
  • 26:53 I'M THINKING AHEAD. I'M GETTING PROMOTED TO HEAVEN.
  • 26:56 I'M GOING TO SEE THE LORD SOON AND I'M GLAD OF IT.
  • 27:00 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

Episodes in this series

  1. Itamar Marcus
  2. [episode no longer available]
  3. Perspectives of the End
  4. Pre-Trib Conference
  5. Approaching Armageddon, Part 1
  6. Approaching Armageddon, Part 2
  7. Approaching Armageddon, Part 3

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