Caption transcript for Revelation Extra: “[episode no longer available]” (2/7)

• 00:46 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
• 00:48 LET ME INTRODUCE MY WIFE, SANDRA.
• 00:51 SHE HEADS UP SOME OF OUR TOURS AND PROBABLY SOME OF YOU RECOGNIZE HER.
• 00:56 ON THIS PROGRAM SHE'LL BE INTERVIEWING AN INTERESTING PERSONALITY,
• 01:00 CALEV MYERS, A MESSIANIC BELIEVER IN JERUSALEM.
• 01:04 HE'S AN ISRAELI, HE'S A PASTOR AND HE'S AN ATTORNEY
• 01:08 WHO HELPS OTHER MESSIANIC BELIEVERS WITH IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS AND SO ON.
• 01:14 HE'S VERY GOOD AT THIS AND SOMEBODY NEEDS HIS HELP, HE IS AVAILABLE.
• 01:19 SO, NOW TO SANDRA AND OUR GUEST, CALEV MYERS.
• 01:25 WELCOME, CALEV TO ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS.
• 01:27 WE ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
• 01:29 I THINK YOUR STORY IS TERRIFIC.
• 01:32 YOU ARE A PASTOR, AN ATTORNEY, AN ISRAELI, YOU'VE SERVED IN THE ISRAELI ARMY.
• 01:38 YOU HAVE A FAMILY HERE.
• 01:39 HOW DID YOU BECOME A PASTOR?
• 01:40 HOW DID YOU GET TO ISRAEL?
• 01:42 WE IMMIGRATED TO ISRAEL, WHEN I SAY "WE", THAT'S MY MOTHER, FATHER AND 5 CHILDREN.
• 01:48 THERE'S ACTUALLY 6 CHILDREN IN OUR FAMILY, BUT 5 OF US IMMIGRATED WITH THEM IN 1992.
• 01:53 WE CAME TO ISRAEL BECAUSE WE LOVE ISRAEL.
• 01:56 WE'RE A VERY ZIONISTIC FAMILY.
• 01:58 WE HAPPEN TO BE JEWS WHO BELIEVE IN YESHUA AS THE MESSIAH
• 02:03 AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE STARTED JUST AS A FAMILY,
• 02:07 A SMALL HOME MEETING GATHERING ON SHABBAT WHERE WE WOULD MEET TOGETHER AND PRAY
• 02:14 AND LEARN FROM THE WORD OF GOD AND THAT EVENTUALLY GREW INTO A CONGREGATION.
• 02:18 OVER THE LAST 14 YEARS WE'VE GROWN SLOWLY, BUT SURELY
• 02:23 AND MY FATHER, WHO USED TO BE IN BANKING BECAME THE HEAD PASTOR OF OUR CONGREGATION
• 02:31 AND NOW I SERVE WITH HIM AS A PASTOR ON STAFF.
• 02:34 SO, CALEV, IS THE CONGREGATION ALL MESSIANIC,
• 02:37 IS IT MESSIANIC BEING BELIEVING JEWS OR IS IT A MIX OF PEOPLE?
• 02:41 TELL ME ALL ABOUT THAT.
• 02:43 WELL, IT STARTED AS JUST OUR FAMILY, 7 OF US.
• 02:47 THEN SLOWLY, BUT SURELY OTHER PEOPLE STARTED JOINING US,
• 02:50 ALL OF THEM JEWISH, ISRAELIS, BELIEVERS IN YESHUA.
• 02:56 OF COURSE, OUR DOORS ARE OPEN TO GENTILE BELIEVERS IN YESHUA THAT WANT TO WORSHIP WITH US.
• 03:02 THERE ARE MANY CHRISTIAN, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW AROUND THE WORLD
• 03:04 THAT RECOGNIZE THE JEWISH ROOTS OF THEIR FAITH AND CHRISTIANS LIKE THAT
• 03:08 THAT DO THEIR VOLUNTEER WORK IN ISRAEL UNDER OTHER AUSPICES
• 03:12 SOMETIMES LIKE TO WORSHIP WITH US AND SO OUR CONGREGATION IS A MIX.
• 03:17 WE'RE NOT 100% OF PEOPLE FROM A JEWISH BACKGROUND, BUT THE MAJORITY OF ARE.
• 03:21 NOW, YOU HAVE A CHURCH. YES.
• 03:22 DO YOU MEET ON SATURDAY, DO YOU MEET ON FRIDAY NIGHT?
• 03:25 IS IT IN JERUSALEM?
• 03:26 TELL ME ABOUT THIS.
• 03:28 WE MEET ACTUALLY ON MOTZAY SHABOT, SATURDAY EVENING,
• 03:31 SATURDAY EVENING.
• 03:32 IN JERUSALEM IT'S EASIER JUST PURELY FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE
• 03:36 BECAUSE NO BUSES RUN ON SHABOT DURING THE DAY, EVERYTHING SHUTS DOWN.
• 03:40 SO, ON SATURDAY EVENING WE MEET TOGETHER.
• 03:42 NOW, YOU SERVED IN THE ARMY.
• 03:43 DID YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ALL SERVE IN THE ARMY ALSO?
• 03:46 THE 5 OF US THAT IMMIGRATED HAVE SERVED IN THE ARMY.
• 03:50 WOW. THAT'S AMAZING.
• 03:52 IT'S NOT JUST HAVE SERVED, PAST TENSE,
• 03:55 EVERY ISRAELI CITIZEN, MALE, HAS TO CONTINUE AND SERVE IN THE ARMY IN RESERVE DUTY
• 04:00 UNTIL THE AGE OF 45 AND SO, I ACTUALLY STILL DO UP TO 24 DAYS OF RESERVE DUTY A YEAR.
• 04:05 DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL HERE?
• 04:06 YES, I STUDIED, I FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL IN THE STATES.
• 04:09 AFTER THE ARMY, I WENT TO HEBREW UNIVERSITY AND ENDED UP DOING A LAW DEGREE AT HEBREW UNIVERSITY.
• 04:19 I GUESS I'M GOING BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID.
• 04:21 WAS IT HARD FOR YOUR FAMILY TO MAKE ALIYAH?
• 04:24 DID THEY KNOW YOU WERE MESSIANIC OR HEBREW BELIEVERS?
• 04:28 DID YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS GETTING IN?
• 04:30 WE DON'T WALK AROUND WITH A BIG FLAG THAT SAYS "MESSIANIC JEWS".
• 04:35 WE SERVE THE LORD IN THE HUMBLE WAY THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO SERVE THE LORD.
• 04:43 IT BECOMES OBVIOUS TO PEOPLE THAT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT
• 04:46 JUST BECAUSE OF OUR BEHAVIOR.
• 04:48 THEN OF COURSE, WE ARE VERY OPEN TO EXPLAINING TO PEOPLE
• 04:52 WHY WE ARE DIFFERENT AND WHAT WE BELIEVE.
• 04:54 SO, WAS IT DIFFICULT TO IMMIGRATE?
• 04:57 WHEN A PERSON KNOWS THAT THEY'RE IN THE CENTER OF GOD'S WILL,
• 05:02 THEN THEY HAVE THE FAITH TO GO THROUGH ANY DIFFICULTY THAT COMES ALONG.
• 05:07 THERE'S A PEACE.
• 05:09 INCLUDING SERVING IN THE ARMY OR STUDYING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES ALONG,
• 05:13 GIVING UP FRIENDS AND RELATIONSHIPS AND MOVING TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY
• 05:17 AND STARTING EVERYTHING ANEW, THAT'S RIGHT, YOU HAVE A PEACE.
• 05:19 YOU KNOW, I'M IN THE CENTER OF GOD'S WILL EVEN IF THINGS BECOME DIFFICULT AND TOUGH,
• 05:23 I'M GOING TO PUSH THROUGH BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO HELP ME THROUGH THOSE DIFFICULTIES
• 05:26 AND SO THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT FAITH IS ALL ABOUT.
• 05:30 CALEV, I LOVE THE STORY OF HOW YOU CAME TO YOUR LAW FIRM AND YOU WERE INTERVIEWING WITH THEM
• 05:34 TO BECOME ONE OF THEIR ATTORNEYS AND YOU SAID TO THEM,
• 05:37 "I AM GOING TO BE THE RELIGION AND HAVE THE RELIGION THAT I'M GOING TO DO"
• 05:42 I LOVE THAT, I THINK THAT IS SUCH A BOLD THING TO SAY,
• 05:46 ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE IN AN INTERVIEW.
• 05:48 WELL, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE VERY DIRECT ABOUT WHO WE ARE.
• 05:51 ONCE THE ENEMY GETS US INTO A CORNER
• 05:54 THINKING THAT WE HAVE TO HIDE WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE BELIEVE,
• 05:57 THEN THERE'S NO END TO THAT AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE PRETENDING
• 06:00 AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE WONDERING WHAT THE OTHER PERSON KNOWS ABOUT ME, ETC.
• 06:04 I THINK GOD BLESSES DIRECTNESS.
• 06:05 SO, THE REASON THAT I EXPLAINED TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERVIEWING ME,
• 06:09 THEN I WAS ACTUALLY A PRE-INTERN.
• 06:12 I WAS STILL, I WAS IN MY THIRD YEAR OF LAW SCHOOL.
• 06:16 THIS IS A VERY LARGE CORPORATE FIRM IN JERUSALEM.
• 06:20 THE REASON I TOLD THEM THAT I WAS A BELIEVER IS BECAUSE THEY ASKED ME,
• 06:26 DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WORKING VERY LONG HOURS?
• 06:29 I SAID I UNDERSTAND THAT IN A CORPORATE LAW FIRM THAT YOU WORK VERY LONG HOURS
• 06:32 AND I'M VERY WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT EVERY TUESDAY AND THURSDAY, I'M GOING TO LEAVE A 6 O'CLOCK
• 06:36 BECAUSE I HAVE A MEETING THAT I HAVE TO GO TO.
• 06:38 WHAT'S THE MEETING YOU HAVE TO GO TO?
• 06:40 WELL, I'M INVOLVED IN A MESSIANIC JEWISH CONGREGATION AND I TEACH AND I STUDY
• 06:44 AND I LEARN AND I'M NOT GOING TO MISS THAT NO MATTER WHAT.
• 06:47 THE MAN WHO WAS INTERVIEWING ME IS AN ORTHODOX JEW.
• 06:50 HE'S A SENIOR PARTNER OF THE FIRM, THE MAN THAT I ENDED UP DOING INTERNSHIP WITH
• 06:55 AND HE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
• 06:57 HE RESPECTED THAT AND THAT WAS IT.
• 06:59 BUT, I BELIEVE THAT GOD BLESSES US WHEN WE'RE VERY DIRECT AND STATE WHO WE ARE,
• 07:03 WHAT WE BELIEVE AND DON'T GET NERVOUS OR GIVE THE OTHER PERSON
• 07:09 THE FEELING LIKE WE'RE TRYING OR EMBARRASSED ABOUT SOMETHING.
• 07:12 RIGHT, AFRAID, ARE WE AFRAID OF OUR FAITH?
• 07:15 SO, NOW, CALEV, YOU ARE IN A LAW FIRM.
• 07:18 YOU'RE PRACTICING LAW.
• 07:20 YOU'RE HAVING A BIG TIME WITH THE CORPORATE WORLD
• 07:22 AND SOMETHING HAPPENS AND CHANGES YOUR PERCEPTION ABOUT IMMIGRATION
• 07:26 AND REALLY TAKES YOUR LIFE IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT DIRECTION
• 07:30 AS FAR AS THINKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION AND HELPING PEOPLE.
• 07:33 WHAT HAPPENS THERE?
• 07:35 WELL, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH LAW SCHOOL, I WAS VERY AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS
• 07:38 THAT CERTAIN BELIEVERS HAVE IN ISRAEL REGARDING CIVIL RIGHTS
• 07:42 AND STATUS IN THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR, IMMIGRATION, ETC.
• 07:46 I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
• 07:50 OF COURSE NOT.
• 07:52 BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SEE IT AS A GREAT WAY THAT I COULD MAKE A LIVING
• 07:55 AND IT JUST WASN'T AN AREA OF LAW THAT INTERESTED ME.
• 08:00 I STUDIED BUSINESS AND TAXATION AND CORPORATE LAW, ETC.
• 08:04 THOSE WERE THE AREAS THAT I SPECIALIZED IN.
• 08:05 BUT, THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO
• 08:10 WHERE THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR STARTED SYSTEMATICALLY TRYING TO CALL IN MINISTERS,
• 08:17 MESSIANIC JEWISH MINISTERS AND RAISING QUESTIONS
• 08:20 AND INTERROGATING THEM ABOUT THE WAY THAT THEY IMMIGRATED TO ISRAEL,
• 08:24 AND OF COURSE TRYING TO GIVE THEM PROBLEMS REGARDING THEIR CITIZENSHIP
• 08:29 AND THIS DID HAPPEN WITH MY FAMILY.
• 08:33 IT REALLY SPARKED SOMETHING IN MY HEART
• 08:36 THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ON A WIDER SCALE THAN THIS.
• 08:39 THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXPOSURE OF THE SYSTEMATIC UNLAWFUL TREATMENT
• 08:43 OF MESSIANIC BELIEVERS IN ISRAEL.
• 08:46 SO, I INITIATED A PROJECT, NOT ONLY ON THE LEGAL LEVEL,
• 08:52 BUT REALLY A LOBBYING PROJECT WHERE WE WERE EXPOSING,
• 08:58 LET'S SAY, A NEGATIVE EXPOSURE, BUT ALSO POSITIVE EXPOSURE.
• 09:03 WE ARE EXPOSING THE NEGATIVE TREATMENT TOWARDS MESSIANIC JEWS IN THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR
• 09:09 AND OTHER PUBLIC OFFICE AND WE WERE ALSO EXPOSING THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY,
• 09:14 THAT WE'RE PEOPLE WHO JUST LOVE ISRAEL, WE WANT TO LIVE HERE IN PEACE, SERVE IN THE ARMY,
• 09:19 PAY OUR TAXES, EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN.
• 09:21 WE'RE NOT A STRANGE MISSIONARY CULT THAT'S OUT TO KIDNAP CHILDREN
• 09:25 AND DO MASS BAPTISMS IN THE SEA OF GALILEE.
• 09:28 THESE ARE QUITE CONTRARY TO THE PURPOSES OF OUR COMMUNITY IN ISRAEL
• 09:35 AND SO LET US LIVE IN PEACE AND QUIET AND LET'S NOT AUTOMATICALLY AGREE WITH
• 09:42 OR RECEIVE THE VICIOUS PROPAGANDA THAT'S BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY
• 09:46 THROUGHOUT THE YEARS ON THE POLITICAL MEDIA LEVEL.
• 09:49 YOU KNOW, I FIND IT SO AMAZING THAT IN ISRAEL YOU CAN BE A SECULAR JEW,
• 09:53 YOU CAN BE A BUDDHIST JEW, YOU CAN BE AN ATHEIST JEW,
• 09:58 YOU CAN BE ANY KIND OF JEW EXCEPT MESSIANIC
• 10:01 AND I JUST FIND THAT SO UNFAIR AND SO WRONG.
• 10:04 THAT'S TRUE.
• 10:06 THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN'T IGNORE, WHICH IS A VERY UGLY HISTORY OF CHURCH PERSECUTION.
• 10:12 RIGHT, I AGREE.
• 10:13 TOWARDS JEWS OVER THE LAST MANY CENTURIES.
• 10:18 SO THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN'T IGNORE,
• 10:22 BUT WE NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT THE TRICK IS GETTING PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND LISTEN,
• 10:30 WE NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT PERSECUTION
• 10:34 AND PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS AND PERSECUTED JEWS
• 10:38 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUE CHRISTIANITY.
• 10:40 THAT IS CORRECT.
• 10:42 OR WITH YESHUA, WHO YESHUA TRULY WAS.
• 10:44 PEOPLE WHO ACCUSED THE JEWS OF CRUCIFYING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE CRUCIFERS OF CHRIST,
• 10:49 WELL, THEY'RE FORGETTING THAT CHRIST WAS A JEW HIMSELF.
• 10:52 SO THEY REALLY LOST TOUCH WITH WHAT IT MEANT TO BE A TRUE CHRISTIAN
• 10:59 AND SO WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM.
• 11:01 BUT, THE PROBLEM IS THAT MANY PEOPLE DON'T EVEN WANT TO LISTEN TO THAT
• 11:06 BECAUSE ALL THEY'RE TOLD IS THAT CHRISTIANS ARE EVIL PEOPLE,
• 11:10 THAT THEY PERSECUTED US OVER THE CENTURIES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
• 11:15 SO, ANYONE THAT'S JEWISH AND COMES TO BELIEVE IN YESHUA
• 11:20 IS REALLY BETRAYING US AND THIS IS SOMETHING, OF COURSE, WHICH ISN'T TRUE.
• 11:27 THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR STORY IS AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO EXPLAIN
• 11:32 AND OUR MESSAGE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET OUT.
• 12:00 FOR INSIGHTFUL PERSPECTIVES OF ISRAEL AND BIBLE PROPHECY,
• 12:04 ASK FOR OUR FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER.
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• 12:13 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, THE INSTITUTE OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES INCLUDES
• 12:18 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL-IN TESTS.
• 12:21 YOU MAY WANT TO JOIN US ON AN UPCOMING TOUR OF ISRAEL, GREECE
• 12:24 OR THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE THEME PARK IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.
• 12:28 PLEASE CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
• 12:33 HAVE YOU SEEN THE PROMISED LAND, WHERE THE DISCIPLES CAST THEIR NETS,
• 12:39 WHERE JESUS GAVE THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT, WHERE ROMAN COLUMN STILL STAND,
• 12:49 WHERE THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS WERE FOUND, WHERE BIBLE PROPHECY IS BEING FULFILLED?
• 12:58 OPEN YOUR EYES TO ISRAEL.
• 13:03 WELL, THERE'S ISRAEL.
• 13:04 YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GO WITH SANDRA.
• 13:06 SHE ALWAYS TAKES OUR JUNE TOUR, WHICH IS VERY POPULAR ESPECIALLY WITH TEACHERS AND STUDENTS.
• 13:11 IT'S A LOWER PRICE AND WE STAY AT KIBBUTZ AND PLACES LIKE THAT
• 13:15 AND WE GO TO DO AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIG, WHICH IS REALLY SOMETHING.
• 13:19 WE CALL IT THE DISCOVERY TOUR, SO YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THAT.
• 13:23 SANDRA GOES ON WITH HER INTERVIEW WITH CALEV MYERS.
• 13:28 REALLY, YOU HAVE TO HAND IT THIS FELLOW.
• 13:30 HE'S AN ATTORNEY, BUT HE DOES THIS WORK "PRO BONO", WITHOUT FEES.
• 13:34 PEOPLE SUPPORT HIM AND HE TAKES CARE OF THE MESSIANICS OVER THERE.
• 13:37 DON'T THINK THEY'RE ALL MALIGNED OR PUSHED AROUND.
• 13:40 SOME OF THEM HAVE A VERY GOOD LAWYER.
• 13:42 NOW, BACK TO THAT INTERVIEW.
• 13:44 I LOVE THE STORY THAT ZOLA TELLS.
• 13:46 I ALWAYS LAUGH AT IT.
• 13:48 HIS FATHER USED TO SAY ABOUT THE CHRISTIANS, "OH, THEY HAVE THEIR RELIGION, IT KEEPS THEM QUIET."
• 13:52 I THINK THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF JEWS THINK THAT CHRISTIANITY IS,
• 13:56 IF THEY JUST GIVE THEM THEIR RELIGION, IT WILL LEAVE THE JEWS ALONE,
• 13:59 IT WILL MAKE THE HAPPY AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT MESSIANICS WANT TO DO.
• 14:03 I THINK THAT MESSIANICS WANT TO LIVE IN ISRAEL,
• 14:06 BE HAPPY IN ISRAEL, HAVE A JOB, SERVE IN THE ARMY,
• 14:09 CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOCIETY OF ISRAEL.
• 14:12 I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MESSIANICS WANT TO DO.
• 14:14 THAT'S RIGHT.
• 14:15 THIS PROJECT THAT I WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER
• 14:19 STARTING GAINING MOMENTUM
• 14:22 AND MANY BELIEVERS STARTED COMING TO ME FOR HELP,
• 14:25 TO TAKE CARE OF PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAD IN THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR, UNLAWFUL TREATMENT.
• 14:29 AT THE TIME, I ACTUALLY TOOK A STUDENT AND CALLED EVERY SINGLE CONGREGATION IN ISRAEL
• 14:33 THAT I WAS AWARE OF THEIR EXISTENCE TO TALK WITH LEADERS
• 14:36 AND TO FIND OUT ABOUT SPECIFIC PROBLEMS THE FAMILY HAD IN THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR.
• 14:40 AT THAT TIME, I DOCUMENTED ABOUT 25 CASES OF WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS UNLAWFUL TREATMENT,
• 14:47 SO WE JUST STARTED TAKING CARE OF THOSE CASES CASE BY CASE ON A "PRO BONO" BASIS.
• 14:52 MANY OF THE FAMILIES, EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO,
• 14:55 THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD QUALITY LEGAL ADVICE
• 14:58 AND SO WE STARTED REPRESENTING THEM AND I FOUNDED AN ORGANIZATION CALLED
• 15:04 "THE JERUSALEM INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE"
• 15:06 AND HAVEN'T DONE VERY WIDESPREAD FUND RAISING,
• 15:10 BUT I DO SOME FUNDRAISING THROUGH FRIENDS SUCH AS YOU
• 15:14 WHO ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER HELPING US.
• 15:17 I'VE BEEN ABLE ACTUALLY OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF
• 15:21 TO TAKE CARE OF AROUND 45 CASES, 45 FAMILIES.
• 15:27 YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN REGULATIONS IN ISRAEL WHEREBY A PERSON'S FILE CAN BE MARKED.
• 15:33 IT'S MARKED AS SOMEBODY WHO'S DANGEROUS TO THE STATE OF ISRAEL
• 15:37 AND THIS IS DONE OF COURSE, TO PROTECT US FROM SECURITY THREAT FROM WITHIN AND WITHOUT.
• 15:41 SO, THE ULTRA-RELIGIOUS WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT METHOD.
• 15:47 THERE ARE CERTAIN GROUPS CALLED "ANTI-MISSIONARY" ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK IN ISRAEL.
• 15:52 THEY'RE WRITING LETTERS TO THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR
• 15:53 AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY LETTERS THAT I'VE SEEN IN FILES OF PEOPLE
• 15:56 THAT SAID WE WANT TO NOTIFY YOU THAT MR. MYERS IS A MISSIONARY.
• 16:01 HE'S A DANGER TO THE EXISTENCE OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL, PLEASE MARK HIS FILE.
• 16:05 SO, MY FILE, THIS DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAPPEN TO ME, BUT THE FILE WOULD BE MARKED,
• 16:11 WHICH SAYS THIS PERSON CANNOT RECEIVE SERVICE FROM THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR
• 16:16 BECAUSE THERE'S SUSPICIONS AND THAT PERSON WOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY SERVICE WHATSOEVER
• 16:20 WHETHER IT WAS RENEWING A PASSPORT,
• 16:21 WHETHER IT WAS REGISTERING A CHILD ON THE DAY OF ITS BIRTH,
• 16:24 WHETHER IT WAS REGISTERING A MARRIAGE, THEY WOULDN'T RECEIVE ANY SERVICES WHATSOEVER
• 16:28 UNTIL IT WAS CLEARED THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
• 16:30 SO, IF A NORMAL CITIZEN CAME AND A PASSPORT RENEWAL WOULD TAKE 7 DAYS,
• 16:34 FOR A MESSIANIC BELIEVER IT COULD TAKE 7 MONTHS AND NOBODY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS
• 16:39 BECAUSE THIS WAS ALL TAKING PLACE BEHIND THE SCENES.
• 16:44 SO, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXPOSE THAT AND RECENTLY THROUGH MY EFFORTS,
• 16:51 THE NEW MINISTER OF INTERIOR WHO'S FROM THE LABOR PARTY
• 16:55 ACTUALLY PUBLICLY STATED ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO THAT CLERKS IN THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR
• 17:02 WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO RECEIVE LETTERS FROM UNAUTHORIZED ORGANIZATIONS
• 17:09 AND MAKE DECISIONS BASED THEREUPON
• 17:10 IN ORDER TO CUT THAT UNLAWFUL DISCRIMINATION AGAINST BELIEVERS.
• 17:15 WHERE DO YOU SEE IT GOING?
• 17:16 I THINK IT'S GETTING BETTER.
• 17:18 I THINK IT'S GETTING BETTER
• 17:19 BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE WIDER PUBLIC,
• 17:22 AGAIN THE VICIOUS PROPAGANDA THAT'S BEEN CREATED AGAINST OUR COMMUNITY IS, IN MY OPINION,
• 17:28 FROM A VERY SMALL FRINGE GROUP OF ULTRA-RELIGIOUS, PREJUDICED PEOPLE,
• 17:36 BUT THE PUBLIC AT LARGE CAN'T DENY OUR TESTIMONY,
• 17:42 THE PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH US, THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE WITH US IN THE ARMY,
• 17:45 THE PEOPLE WHO STUDY WITH US IN SCHOOL, THEY SEE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY UPSTANDING CITIZENS
• 17:49 AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME KNOW THAT I'VE NEVER TRY TO FORCE MY FAITH DOWN ANOTHER PERSON'S THROAT.
• 17:54 IF YOU'RE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU OPENLY,
• 17:58 BUT I'M NOT OUT TRYING TO CONVINCE YOUR CHILDREN OR TRYING TO CONVINCE HELPLESS PEOPLE
• 18:04 THAT THEY NEED TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING ELSE.
• 18:08 AND SO OUR TESTIMONY SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS
• 18:11 AND I THINK THAT OUR TESTIMONY IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE APPARENT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC
• 18:17 AND THERE'S MORE AND MORE OPENNESS TO, FIRST OF ALL, OUR EXISTENCE IN ISRAEL
• 18:21 AND JUST LEAVING US ALONE AND LETTING US LIVE IN ISRAEL LIKE EVERY OTHER JEWISH FAMILY,
• 18:27 JEWISH INDIVIDUAL THAT WANTS TO LIVE IN ISRAEL.
• 18:31 YOU KNOW, CALEV, IT'S JUST NOT MUCH DIFFERENT, I THINK THAN THE FIRST CENTURY.
• 18:35 YOU HAVE TO THINK THAT THE FIRST BELIEVERS WERE PERSECUTED AND, SAY THEY WANTED A PASSPORT
• 18:40 OR A BUSINESS OR ANYTHING OR MARRIAGE LICENSE, YOU KNOW THEY HAD TO BE PERSECUTED.
• 18:45 AS WE'RE TOURING IN ISRAEL, WE HAVE A SAYING, "THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN".
• 18:49 THIS IS TRUE.
• 18:51 BUT, IF WE GO BACK EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT, IT WAS THE GENTILES,
• 18:57 ALL THE ORIGINAL BELIEVERS, OF COURSE, WERE JEWISH.
• 19:01 THEY WEREN'T TOO SURE THAT GENTILES COULD ENTER INTO THIS,
• 19:03 THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
• 19:04 SO THEY WERE "PERSECUTED" AGAIN BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T,
• 19:09 CAN THESE GENTILES ACTUALLY BECOME PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
• 19:12 IT'S JUST INTERESTING THE WAY THAT THE TABLES TURN AND NOW THE SITUATION IS QUITE THE OPPOSITE.
• 19:20 CALEV, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE AT HOME WANT TO KNOW, HOW CAN WE HELP YOUR MINISTRY?
• 19:23 THIS IS A GREAT STORY, YOU'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.
• 19:26 WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU?
• 19:29 YOU CAN PRAY FOR ME. ABSOLUTELY.
• 19:32 I'D BE VERY GLAD IF YOU WOULD SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF
• 19:38 "JERUSALEM INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE".
• 19:40 I'VE GIVEN YOU THE INFORMATION IF PEOPLE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT,
• 19:43 IT'S ALL DONE ABOVE BOARD THROUGH A TRUST FUND THAT'S DOCUMENTED
• 19:49 AND EVERY DOLLAR ACTUALLY GOES TO HELP THE POOR AND NEEDY
• 19:51 AND NOBODY IS GETTING WEALTHY OR RICH OFF OF THIS.
• 19:56 YOU WORK FOR A GREAT LAW FIRM.
• 19:57 WELL, THAT'S TRUE.
• 19:59 I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, CALEV, ANYTHING WE CAN DO FOR YOU, WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO FOR YOU.
• 20:05 I KNOW THAT MANY OF OUR VIEWERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY KIND OF DONATIONS TO YOUR MINISTRY
• 20:09 THAT WE WILL BE GLAD TO PASS THEM ON TO YOU.
• 20:11 I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
• 20:13 I JUST WANT TO STRESS ONE THING AND THAT IS
• 20:16 THIS ORGANIZATION IS NOT AN ANTI-GOVERNMENT OR ANTI-ISRAEL ORGANIZATION.
• 20:20 ABSOLUTELY NOT.
• 20:22 MANY CHRISTIANS WHO SUPPORT ISRAEL ARE NERVOUS ABOUT GETTING INVOLVED
• 20:25 OR SUPPORTING A FUND LIKE THIS, BUT OUR VISION IS REALLY TO BLESS ISRAEL
• 20:30 AND TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND BY ALLOWING BELIEVERS TO LIVE IN ISRAEL,
• 20:34 BELIEVERS WHO ARE GOING TO SERVE IN THE ARMY AND SUPPORT OUR GOVERNMENT
• 20:36 AND PRAY FOR OUR PRIME MINISTER AND BLESS OUR PRIME MINISTER,
• 20:39 WE'RE REALLY FOR THE NATION AND THAT'S NOT ONLY TRUE IN THEORY,
• 20:43 BUT ACTUALLY I WORK, I WAS RECENTLY NOMINATED AS THE LEGAL ADVISOR
• 20:51 TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SOCIAL WELFARE FUND OF THE KNESSET.
• 20:55 SO, I'M WORKING WITH KNESSET MEMBERS ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
• 20:58 I'M IN THE KNESSET TWO OR THREE DAYS A WEEK.
• 21:01 I'M VERY, PART OF THE SYSTEM
• 21:03 WE'RE NOT STANDING FROM AFAR, THROWING STONES AT THE GOVERNMENT
• 21:06 AND SAYING YOU'RE NOT RIGHT AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS EVIL.
• 21:09 WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WITHIN THE SYSTEM THAT NEED TO BE READJUSTED,
• 21:13 SO THAT YOUR DESIRE FOR TRUE DEMOCRACY IN ISRAEL CAN TAKE PLACE
• 21:18 AND EVERY CITIZEN CAN BE TREATED IN A FAIR AND A JUST WAY.
• 21:22 SO, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE NERVOUS
• 21:25 THAT AM I SUPPORTING AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S ANTI-ISRAELI GOVERNMENT?
• 21:28 THAT'S NOT THE CASE WHATSOEVER.
• 21:32 LEGAL IS LEGAL AND FAIR IS FAIR.
• 21:34 ISRAEL IS A DEMOCRACY.
• 21:36 IT IS THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
• 21:38 IF YOU CAN DO SOMETHING TO HELP MAKE THE CHANGES THAT ARE NECESSARY,
• 21:43 THEN I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS THINKING THAT YOU ARE ANTI-GOVERNMENT.
• 21:46 I THINK IF ANYTHING, YOU ARE TRULY A MAN OF GOD, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR VISITING WITH US.
• 21:53 I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
• 21:54 ♪♪
• 22:02 ♪PROMISED, BY JEHOVAH THROUGH ♪HIS PROPHETS,
• 22:09 ♪HOW THEY WEPT FOR YOU ♪MY ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL.
• 22:24 ♪IN THAT DAY THE LORD WILL COME ♪AND ALL WILL BOW BEFORE THE ♪THRONE OF HE WHO IS THE KING.
• 22:37 ♪ISRAEL, THE PROMISED LAND ♪WILL SEE HIS KINGDOM COME.
• 22:46 ♪♪
• 23:27 ♪IN THAT DAY THE LORD WILL COME ♪AND ALL WILL BOW BEFORE THE ♪THRONE OF HE WHO IS THE KING.
• 23:40 ♪ISRAEL, THE PROMISED LAND ♪WILL SEE HIS KINGDOM COME.
• 23:53 ♪♪
• 24:08 WELL, CALEV IS DOING A GOOD JOB OVER THERE
• 24:10 AND HIS "JERUSALEM INSTITUTE",
• 24:13 IF YOU WANT TO DESIGNATE A GIFT FOR HIM WE'LL SEND IT OVER THERE TO HIM
• 24:16 AND THE MESSIANICS WILL THAT MUCH BETTER REPRESENTED.
• 24:21 I GET LETTERS FROM PEOPLE SAYING THAT THE ISRAELIS ARE PICKING ON THE MESSIANICS AND SO ON.
• 24:27 YOU KNOW, THEY DO.
• 24:29 SOME OF THE ORTHODOX GET PUSHY AND AGGRAVATING.
• 24:32 BUT, IT'S LIKE ONE GUY WROTE THIS LONG LETTER THAT SAID
• 24:35 YOU CONCEAL THE FACT THAT THERE'S THIS STRIFE AND SO ON.
• 24:39 I TOLD THEM, LOOK, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS NEWS THAT UNBELIEVERS PICKED ON BELIEVERS.
• 24:44 THIS STARTED WITH CAIN AND ABEL AND IT'S STILL GOING ON.
• 24:48 DON'T UNBELIEVERS IN THIS COUNTRY PICK ON BELIEVERS?
• 24:51 GOODNESS SAKE, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THAT.
• 24:52 THE LORD SAID YOU WILL HAVE PERSECUTION AND SO YOU DO.
• 24:56 BUT, I WILL GIVE YOU REST, HE SAID.
• 24:58 THERE WAS A CASE IN AROD, A DESERT TOWN WHERE THE MESSIANICS HAD WORKED UP A CHESS CLUB
• 25:06 THAT WERE GIVING OUT PAMPHLETS AND SO ON AND THE ORTHODOX COME CRASHING IN.
• 25:10 THERE WAS LOTS OF--, I MEAN NOBODY WAS REALLY HURT.
• 25:13 BUT, I'M NOT DEFENDING, BOTH SIDES, THE ORTHODOX ESPECIALLY, IT'S NO REASONING WITH THEM.
• 25:22 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MESSIANICS BELIEVE IN, NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON.
• 25:26 THEY'RE A LITTLE JEALOUS OF THEIR OWN BELIEFS
• 25:30 THAT THESE PEOPLE WALK AROUND WITH BIBLES AND A SMILE ON THEIR FACES,
• 25:34 GIVE BEAUTIFUL TESTIMONIES AND GET PEOPLE SAVED.
• 25:37 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF IT SO THEY STRIKE OUT AGAINST IT AND SO ON.
• 25:41 BUT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT'S DEMOCRACY, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS, IT'S HOW IT WORKS HERE.
• 25:46 IT'S HOW IT WORKS IN OTHER DEMOCRACIES.
• 25:48 YOU WANT ABSOLUTE ORDER, MOVE TO HAVANA OR BEIJING OR SINGAPORE.
• 25:54 THERE ARE PLACES IN THE WORLD WHERE NOTHING GOES WRONG,
• 25:57 BUT, THAT'S BECAUSE THE COPS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT THERE.
• 25:59 THESE PEOPLE ARE FREE TO OBJECT.
• 26:02 SOME OF THEM DO OBJECT.
• 26:03 BUT, WITH ALL THAT SAID, THERE ARE MATTERS WITH THE GOVERNMENT LIKE IMMIGRATION OF MESSIANICS
• 26:11 OR PEOPLE GETTING SUMMARILY FIRED FROM A JOB
• 26:16 BECAUSE THEY TAKE UP THE FAITH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
• 26:19 THAT'S WHERE THE HEROES LIKE CALEV MYERS COME IN AND IN THIS COUNTRY FOR THAT MATTER.
• 26:25 WE HAVE CHRISTIAN LAWYERS DEFENDING CHRISTIAN PEOPLE
• 26:26 AGAINST ALL KINDS OF ACCUSATIONS.
• 26:29 I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING GOOD THAT'S GOING ON.
• 26:34 I DIDN'T HIDE THE STORY.
• 26:37 I HAD RUN THE STORY.
• 26:39 IT WAS CALLED "CHECKMATE"
• 26:40 AND I TOLD THE GUY WHERE HE COULD FIND IT IN OUR DECEMBER LEVITT LETTER.
• 26:44 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.