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Caption transcript for Age of Terror Continued: “Hated of All Nations” with Tommy Ice (9/12)
- 00:28 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
- 00:29 I'M BACK AFTER MY BYPASS OPERATION AND BY THE WAY, THANKS FOR THE PRAYERS.
- 00:33 I TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK AND I FORGOT TO THANK YOU.
- 00:37 I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CARDS, >>THE LETTERS, THE PRAYERS.
- 00:40 I WROTE IN ONE OF MY LETTERS WE >>SEND OUT, I ALWAYS KNEW I HAD PLENTY OF SUPPORTERS,
- 00:47 I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD THAT MANY FRIENDS.
- 00:49 THAT'S TERRIFIC.
- 00:50 MY BROKEN HEART IS FIXED AND THE DOCTOR SAYS I MIGHT HAVE 20 MORE >>YEARS, SO STAY TUNED.
- 00:57 WE HAVE A LOT TO SAY.
- 00:57 DURING THE SIX WEEKS WE WERE >>OFF, I MEAN, I WAS OFF, WE RAN >>NEW PROGRAMMING ANYWAY.
- 01:04 WE KEEP IT AHEAD OF TIME AND >>THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO CONCERN >>ANTI-SEMITISM.
- 01:11 WE'RE GOING TO START AT THE YAD VASHEM IN JERUSALEM,
- 01:14 THE MUSEUM OF THE HOLOCAUST >>WHERE EVERY UNIVERSITY GRADUATE IN ISRAEL HAS TO GO THROUGH IT
- 01:19 AND EVERY ONE OF MY TOURISTS HAS >>TO GO THROUGH IT.
- 01:22 WE NEED TO REMEMBER WHAT THE >>GERMANS DID BECAUSE IT'S SO FAR >>BEYOND ANYTHING IN HISTORY,
- 01:29 SO COMPLETELY CRAZY AND MURDEROUS THAT WE NEED TO REALLY STUDY IT.
- 01:34 THEN THE ANTI-SEMITISM CONTINUED >>ALL THROUGH HISTORY, THEY DIDN'T INVENT IT.
- 01:41 PHARAOH INVENTED IT, I GUESS, OR EVEN EARLIER.
- 01:42 IT'S ENVY, IT'S THE DEVIL, BUT IN ANY CASE, TOMMY ICE IS GOING TO BE WITH US.
- 01:48 HE'S A THEOLOGIAN.
- 01:49 HE'S NOT JEWISH, BUT HE'S WRITTEN A TERRIFIC BOOK ON ANTI-SEMITISM,
- 01:52 ANALYZED THE THING THOROUGHLY >>AND WITH HIS TERRIFIC BIBLICAL >>KNOWLEDGE,
- 01:58 YOU COULD SAY A LOT TO THE IDEA THAT THIS REALLY IS THE BATTLE >>OF JOB 1.
- 02:03 THE DEVIL'S GOING TO AND FRO LOOKING FOR TROUBLE IN THE WORLD.
- 02:07 THE LORD SAID, HAS THOU CONSIDERED BY SERVANT JOB,
- 02:10 A TYPE OF RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE, A CHOSEN PEOPLE
- 02:13 AND THE DEVIL SAYS, AH, JOB IS RICH,
- 02:15 JUST TAKE AWAY WHAT HE HAS, HE'LL CURSE YOU TO YOUR FACE.
- 02:19 HE DID NOT CURSE GOD.
- 02:21 HE SAID, YE THOUGH HE SLAY ME, >>YET WILL I TRUST IN HIM.
- 02:26 SO, LET'S GO NOW TO JERUSALEM AND THE YAD VASHEM.
- 02:30 WE'RE AT YAD VASHEM THIS MORNING,
- 02:33 THAT'S THE MUSEUM OF THE HOLOCAUST IN JERUSALEM.
- 02:36 THE NAME IS LIKE A HAND AND MONUMENT,
- 02:39 A NAME FOR THOSE WHO DIED NAMELESS IN VARIOUS HOLOCAUSTS THROUGH THE AGES.
- 02:46 THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN ONE, BUT, THIS ONE COMMEMORATES >>ESPECIALLY THE WWII HOLOCAUST.
- 02:52 THE RELIEF BEHIND ME IS THE JEWS >>LEAVING A GHETTO.
- 02:55 IT DOESN'T EVEN IDENTIFY WHAT GHETTO.
- 02:58 THERE'VE BEEN GHETTOS FROM PHARAOH'S EGYPT
- 03:00 ALL THE WAY TO WARSAW IN WWII AND THE JEWS TRUDGING OUT OF THEM MUCH LIKE WE SEE HERE.
- 03:06 ANTI-SEMITISM IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE GOD CHOSE >>THE JEWS.
- 03:15 JOB 1 TELLS ABOUT IT AND THERE'S A BATTLE BETWEEN GOD AND SATAN,
- 03:41 IN OTHER WORDS LOOKING FOR TROUBLE.
- 03:54 THAT IS, JOB IS LIKE A CHOSEN PERSON, LIKE A JEWISH PERSON IF YOU WILL,
- 03:59 THAT HE IS RIGHTEOUS, HE WORSHIPS GOD, HE DOES NO EVIL, HE AVOIDS IT.
- 04:21 HE SAYS, JOB IS RICH, IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF HIS BEING FAITHFUL >>TO GOD.
- 04:26 HE'S WEALTHY.
- 04:27 HE HAS NO PROBLEMS AND SO HE EASILY TURNS TO GOD.
- 04:51 THE DIALOGUES IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
- 04:52 SATAN SAYS RICH PEOPLE HAVE NO PROBLEM,
- 04:55 BUT, TAKE AWAY WHAT THEY HAVE, THEY'LL CURSE YOU TO YOUR FACE.
- 04:58 AND GOD IN EFFECT SAYS, ALRIGHT >>I'M GOING TO LET YOU DO IT,
- 05:00 BUT IF YOU THINK THAT JOB WILL >>CURSE ME TO MY FACE, YOU DON'T KNOW JOB.
- 05:07 AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE READ THAT TRAGIC BOOK OF JOB
- 05:10 AND EVERYTHING IS TAKEN AWAY >>FROM HIM, HE'S SICK, HE'S LYING >>ON THE GROUND WITH BOILS,
- 05:14 HIS FRIENDS ADVISE HIM THAT IT'S HIS SINS IN QUESTION AND SO ON.
- 05:20 NONE OF THAT IS RIGHT.
- 05:21 HE'S SIMPLY A PAWN IN A GIANT CHESS GAME AND MAYBE ALL OF US ARE,
- 05:25 BUT HE DOES NOT EVER CURSE GOD >>TO HIS FACE.
- 05:29 JOB ENDS UP SAYING, AT HIS WORSE >>TIME, YE, THOUGH HE SLAY ME, YET WILL I TRUST IN HIM.
- 05:37 THE JEWISH PEOPLE STILL TRUST IN >>GOD EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE BEEN SLAIN AND SLAIN AGAIN.
- 05:43 THEY'VE BEEN HATED AND PEOPLE HAVE GONE OUT OF THEIR WAY
- 05:48 TO KILL THEM, TO BREAK THEIR >>TEMPLES DOWN,
- 05:52 TO GET RID OF THEM AS WE'RE SEEING IN TODAY'S WORLD.
- 05:56 IT'S NOT BATTLES I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE.
- 06:01 THOSE ARE ROUTINE WITH COUNTRIES.
- 06:02 IT'S THE IDEA THAT THE JEWS HAVE >>BEEN AROUND AND BEEN CHOSEN
- 06:06 AND ARE THE WORLD'S OLDEST PEOPLE, BY FAR.
- 06:09 IF YOU DON'T THINK IT'S TRUE, THEN TELL ME ANOTHER PEOPLE
- 06:13 THAT WORSHIP THE SAME GOD FOR 4000 YEARS.
- 06:16 THE CHINESE ARE AN OLD PEOPLE, YOU MIGHT SAY, THEY'VE BEEN OVER >>THERE FOREVER AND EVER,
- 06:20 BUT, THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR RELIGION A HUNDRED TIMES.
- 06:22 WHAT WOULD AN ANCIENT CONFUCIAN CHINESE HAVE TO SAY TO A MODERN CHINESE COMMUNIST FROM BEIJING?
- 06:28 THERE'S BEEN 25 RELIGIONS BETWEEN, I SUPPOSE.
- 06:32 YOU KNOW THEY FOUND AN ALTAR FROM JOSHUA'S TIME, 35 CENTURIES AGO,
- 06:40 AN ALTAR WAS CARVED IN THE ANCIENT HEBREW LANGUAGE
- 06:44 AND IT'S THE SAME PRAYER YOU'D >>CARVE ON AN ALTAR NOW
- 06:47 AND IT'S FOUND IN THE EARTH OVER >>HERE SHOWING, WHAT CAN I SAY?
- 06:54 THE UNITED STATES HAS HAD ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 200 YEARS HISTORY
- 06:58 AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 4000 YEARS HERE.
- 07:00 IF THE BIBLE HAD ONLY ONE PROPHECY, THAT THE PEOPLE GOD CHOSE WILL SURVIVE UNTIL NOW,
- 07:07 IT WOULD BE A VALUABLE BOOK >>OF PROPHECY, THAT'S ALL THERE IS >>TO THAT.
- 07:11 IN ANY CASE, LET ME MENTION SOME OF THE ANTI-SEMITES OF THE PAST >>AND GIVE THEM DUE CREDIT.
- 07:17 OF COURSE, PHARAOH IN EGYPT, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING,
- 07:20 WHO ENSLAVED THE PEOPLE 400 YEARS.
- 07:21 NEBUCHADNEZZAR CAME AND CONQUERED JUDAH AND TOOK AWAY THE TRIBES,
- 07:29 BUT HE ALSO STOPPED FOR THE >>LONG, EXPENSIVE, DIFFICULT TASK
- 07:34 OF TEARING DOWN SOLOMON'S GREAT TEMPLE, A WONDER OF THE ANCIENT >>WORLD, STONE BY STONE.
- 07:41 IT MUST HAVE TAKEN YEARS.
- 07:42 IT WAS A TERRIBLY HARD JOB.
- 07:44 ANTIOCHUS, WHO CAME IN 165, NOT ONLY RAIDED THE TEMPLE,
- 07:49 TOOK OVER THE PLACE AND BECAME IN EFFECT, A DICTATOR OF ISRAEL,
- 07:53 BUT, HE SACRIFICED A PIG ON THE ALTAR.
- 07:55 THIS IS GOING OUT OF ONE'S WAY >>TO MAKE SURE THE JEWS ARE COMPLETELY HATED.
- 08:02 AFTER THE LORD CAME, IN 70 A.D., TITUS TORE DOWN HEROD'S TEMPLE,
- 08:08 THE SECOND TEMPLE TO BE TORN DOWN AND THAT WAS A JOB.
- 08:12 IT TOOK HEROD GENERATIONS TO REALLY COMPLETE THE PLACE
- 08:16 AND IT WAS FOUR ACRES OF STONE CONSTRUCTION AND IT TOOK TEAMS >>OF HORSES
- 08:20 AND HOOKS AND BLOCK AND TACKLE AND ENDLESS WORK AGAIN TO LEVEL >>IT TO THE GROUND
- 08:26 TO FULFILL THE PROPHECY OF THE >>MESSIAH WHO SAID
- 08:27 THERE SHALL NOT BE LEFT HERE ONE >>STONE UPON ANOTHER THAT SHALL NOT BE THROWN DOWN.
- 08:34 A GREAT DISASTER.
- 08:35 1.1 MILLION PEOPLE KILLED, JEWISH PEOPLE, IN 5 MONTH'S TIME,
- 08:40 AN UNARMED NATION TRAPPED IN THE >>TEMPLE SITE VERSUS THE ROMAN >>LEGIONS WITH THEIR LONG SPEARS.
- 08:45 AFTER THE TEMPLE'S TORN DOWN, THE JEWS ARE STILL TRYING TO WORSHIP,
- 08:52 PROBABLY AT THE WESTERN WALL.
- 08:54 THE RETAINING WALLS DOWN BELOW >>WEREN'T TORN DOWN.
- 08:56 THEY HOLD THE MOUNTAIN TOGETHER, BUT SINCE THEY'RE A REAL RELIC >>OF THE ANCIENT TEMPLE,
- 09:02 THE JEWS WORSHIP THERE, I GUESS >>AND THE WORSHIP THERE TODAY.
- 09:06 THE EMPEROR HADRIAN WOULD HAVE >>NONE OF THAT.
- 09:10 HE CAME INTO THE TEMPLE SITE, >>HE PUT THE TEMPLE OF JUPITER UP >>THERE ON THE PLATFORM.
- 09:15 THIS IS GOING OUT OF THE WAY, THIS IS VERY EXPENSIVE,
- 09:18 THIS IS TO MAKE A WHOLE TEMPLE >>IN SOME FOREIGN LAND
- 09:21 SOME BACK-WATER PROVINCE OF THE >>ROMAN EMPIRE
- 09:23 IS GOING OUT OF ONE'S WAY TO TRY >>TO DIG AT THE JEWS
- 09:27 AND THE CRUELEST THING HE DID WAS TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE COUNTRY TO PALESTINE.
- 09:32 WE STILL HAVE THIS ANTI-SEMITIC >>TERM WITH US TODAY,
- 09:37 A PEOPLE CALLING THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS SPURIOUSLY.
- 09:40 BUT, STILL AND ALL, THEY TAKE THE TERM BECAUSE IT'S ANTI-JEWISH.
- 09:44 IT WAS ORIGINALLY INVENTED AS THE NAME FROM THE ERA OF THE PHILISTINES,
- 09:50 WHO, BY THE WAY WEREN'T ARABS, >>THEY WERE GREEKS.
- 09:52 THERE'S NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PHILISTINES
- 09:54 AND THE ARAB WHO TODAY CALL THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS.
- 09:57 HADRIAN MADE SURE THE PLACE WAS >>CALLED PALESTINE
- 10:01 AND THE NAME STUCK ALL THE WAY >>TO THE 20TH CENTURY.
- 10:03 THE CRUSADERS CAME WITH LONG SUPPLY LINES FROM ENGLAND, SWEDEN, FRANCE, GERMANY
- 10:08 AND THEY MARCHED THROUGH EUROPE >>AND THE SLAUGHTERED JEWS EVERYWHERE.
- 10:12 THEY WERE COMING TO TAKE THE HOLY LAND BACK FROM THE INFIDELS,
- 10:17 BUT, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, >>THE JEWS WEREN'T THE INFIDELS.
- 10:19 THAT'S PRETTY BAD BIBLE READING.
- 10:21 PERHAPS YOU WANTED TO TAKE IT FROM THE MUSLIMS,
- 10:23 IT'S THE REVERSE OF WHAT WE SEE TODAY.
- 10:26 TODAY THE MUSLIMS CALL US JEWS >>AND CHRISTIAN, "INFIDELS",
- 10:31 BUT BACK THEN THEY CALL THE JEWS >>AND MUSLIMS "INFIDELS",
- 10:35 THESE CHRISTIAN ARMIES WITH MORE >>LONG SPEARS
- 10:37 AND JUST MURDERING PEOPLE EVERYWHERE AND OCCUPYING >>JERUSALEM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
- 10:45 GIVE PROPER CREDIT TO THE TURKS >>WHO RODE IN HERE IN 1517.
- 10:49 I ALWAYS POINT OUT WHEN I GET TO THIS PLACE IN ALL THAT HISTORY,
- 10:52 THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME COLUMBUS >>DISCOVERED AMERICA.
- 10:56 SO, THE JEWS REALLY ARE A PRETTY OLD PEOPLE.
- 10:57 THE TURKS TOOK OVER AND KEPT THIS PLACE FOR 4 CENTURIES.
- 11:00 THEY CUT OUT THE TREES, THEY MADE TIES FOR THEIR RAILROADS WITH THE TREES,
- 11:05 BUT THEY DIDN'T PLANT ANYTHING >>AND TURNED THE PLACE IN THE GOD-FORSAKEN WILDERNESS
- 11:09 WITH SWAMPS AND DESERT LAND >>AND SO ON, CHANGED THE ECOLOGY >>OF ISRAEL, IF YOU WILL
- 11:15 AND HAD TO BE CHANGED BACK WHEN >>THE JEWS RETURNED IN 1948.
- 11:19 AFTER WWI THE BRITISH TOOK OVER >>THE PLACE.
- 11:22 THEY WERE ALSO EXTREMELY UNKIND >>TO THE JEWS, THEY STILL ARE.
- 11:25 THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY LOVE LOST >>BETWEEN BRITISH PEOPLE AND JEWISH PEOPLE
- 11:31 AND IN OUR OWN DAY, BRINGING IT >>RIGHT UP TO DATE,
- 11:33 EVEN IN AMERICA THE ANTI-SEMITISM, I SPEAK OF ANTI-SEMITISM NOW,
- 11:38 NOT TAKING A POSITION BETWEEN >>ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIANS OR >>ANYTHING,
- 11:41 IT'S SIMPLE JEW HATRED OF THE >>KIND YOU GET FROM THE NEW YORK >>TIMES, THE WASHINGTON POST,
- 11:45 CNN, THE NETWORKS PERSONALITIES >>THAT WE LISTEN TO AND WERE TAUGHT BY,
- 11:51 PAT BUCHANAN, PETER JENNINGS, ROBERT NOVAK,
- 11:54 PEOPLE LIKE THIS GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY JUST LIKE THOSE CONQUERORS OF OLD,
- 11:59 JUST TO SAY SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT >>THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.
- 12:03 THAT'S ANTI-SEMITISM.
- 12:06 IT'S BEEN WITH US FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL
- 12:07 AND IT'S ALL ABOUT GOD AND SATAN AND THE FACT THAT THESE JEWISH >>PEOPLE ARE CHOSEN.
- 12:15 AS TEVIA SAID IN "FIDDLER ON THE ROOF"
- 12:17 GOD, CHOOSE SOMEBODY ELSE FOR AWHILE.
- 12:34 ASK FOR OUR FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER
- 12:39 AND OUR CATALOG WITH VIDEOS, BOOKS AND MUSIC.
- 12:43 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, THE >>INSTITUTE OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES INCLUDES
- 12:48 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL IN TESTS.
- 12:52 DID YOU KNOW THAT ZOLA TAKES TOURS TO ISRAEL, GREECE
- 12:55 AND THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE >>THEME PARK IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA?
- 12:59 PLEASE CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
- 13:05 WELL, SADLY THE SUBJECT OF ANTI-SEMITISM JUST DOESN'T GO AWAY.
- 13:10 IT'S ON SOME PLACES IN THE WORLD >>AS VIRULENT TODAY
- 13:13 AS IT WAS IN THE HOLOCAUST THAT >>CREATED THAT YAD VASHEM AND IT'S EVERYWHERE.
- 13:20 HERE IN THE QUIET SUBURBS OF DALLAS, WE FOUND DEFACING OF A BUILDING
- 13:26 AT A MESSIANIC CONGREGATION, BARUCH HASHEM,
- 13:29 THERE'S AN IMPLIED COMPLIMENT THERE, THEY ARE MESSIANICS, HEBREW CHRISTIAN, SO TO SAY,
- 13:35 BUT THERE WAS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO >>CONVICT THEM OF THE JEWISH,
- 13:38 SO THEY WERE TREATED AS JEWS AND THE BUILDING DEFACED.
- 13:42 A VERY SAD THING.
- 13:43 WE WENT THERE AND WE TALKED TO >>SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CONGREGATION
- 13:47 ABOUT THE AWFUL THINGS THAT WERE WRITTEN THERE AND THEIR FEELINGS >>ABOUT THEM.
- 13:52 WE HAVE A HOME SCHOOL CO-OP HERE >>AT THE SYNAGOGUE.
- 13:55 THE CHILDREN MEET ONCE A WEEK
- 13:56 AND MONDAY MORNING IS WHEN THE GRAFFITI WAS DISCOVERED ON THE BUILDING
- 14:01 AND WHEN THE CHILDREN ARRIVED MONDAY MORNING,
- 14:04 THIS WAS THE FIRST THING THAT THEY SAW.
- 14:07 THE PERSECUTION OF JEWS WORLD WIDE,
- 14:10 IT BRINGS IT VERY HOME TO YOU.
- 14:12 IT'S NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S NOT EVEN DOWN TOWN
- 14:14 OR ANOTHER LOCATION, IT'S RIGHT HERE IN YOUR HOME
- 14:17 AND SO AS A FAMILY, AS WE KNOW, >>IF SOMEONE VANDALIZED THEIR OWN HOUSE,
- 14:22 THE FAMILY FEELS IT MUCH >>MORE SO WHEN YOU READ SOMETHING >>IN THE NEWS
- 14:26 OR READ SOMETHING IN THE PAPER, >>OR YOU SEE SOMETHING ON THE NEWS.
- 14:28 I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, ARE REGARDING THE SLOGAN BACK HERE IS,
- 14:31 THESE CHILDREN HAVE GROWN UP IN JEWISH HOMES AND BELIEVING IN YESHUA.
- 14:40 IT'S VERY NATURAL FOR THEM.
- 14:41 WHERE AS IN MY GENERATION, >>GROWING UP IN A MORE TRADITIONAL >>JEWISH HOME
- 14:45 AND THEN COMING TO FAITH IN YESHUA IS A WHOLE CHANGE.
- 14:49 BUT, FOR THEM THEY WERE >>WONDERING, DON'T THEY KNOW THAT >>YESHUA WAS A JEW
- 14:55 AND THAT HE'S THE JEWISH MESSIAH?
- 14:57 IT SEEMS LIKE THEIR "AGAINST SOMETHING"
- 14:59 IS THEIR STRONGER MOTIVATION >>VERSUS BEING FOR SOMETHING THAT >>WOULD BE SO POSITIVE.
- 15:13 WELL, OUR GUEST TODAY IS TOMMY ICE.
- 15:16 HE IS ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS.
- 15:17 I DON'T HAVE YOUR BIOGRAPHY IN >>FRONT OF ME.
- 15:19 NEVER MIND, HE'S BEEN EVERYWHERE >>AND DONE EVERYTHING.
- 15:23 HE'S A THEOLOGIAN OF SOME NOTE.
- 15:24 TOMMY, THIS SUBJECT OF >>ANTI-SEMITISM, YOU HAVE PREPARED >>A BOOK ON THE THING.
- 15:31 WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT IT?
- 15:32 WELL, THE BOOK IS CALLED "THE CASE FOR ZIONISM"
- 15:36 AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING, I THINK SINCE 9-11, ZOLA,
- 15:39 IS IN EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY, >>WHICH HISTORICALLY, AS WE KNOW,
- 15:44 YOU DOCUMENTED IN YOUR NEWSLETTER
- 15:46 ABOUT HOW YOU USED TO GO SPEAK HERE AND YOU USED TO SPEAK THERE
- 15:48 AND ALL OF THOSE "HERES AND >>THERES" ARE NOT AS FREQUENT AS >>THEY USED TO BE.
- 15:53 NO, DRYING UP.
- 15:54 AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT THERE IS A SHIFT, NOT JUST IN THE WORLD, >>WHICH IS OCCURRING,
- 16:00 BUT WITHIN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY.
- 16:01 LIBERALS HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH >>ANTI-ZIONISTIC FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
- 16:06 BY ZIONISM, WE MEAN PEOPLE WHO >>BELIEVE THAT ISRAEL SHOULD BE IN THE LAND.
- 16:10 THAT ENCOMPASSED JEWS AND >>GENTILES WHO BELIEVE THAT WAY.
- 16:14 WE'RE SEEING--
- 16:15 GOD IS A ZIONIST, I ONCE POINTED >>OUT IN THE NEWSLETTER.
- 16:18 I DIDN'T GET MUCH OF AN ARGUMENT.
- 16:19 HE WOULD FAVOR THE JEWS BEING IN THE LAND.
- 16:22 IT'S PART OF HIS PLAN.
- 16:23 UNTIL THE MODERN ZIONIST MOVEMENT AMONG EVANGELICALS,
- 16:27 THEY USED TO CALL THIS "RESTORATIONISM".
- 16:29 AS FAR BACK AS THE LATE 1500S, >>FOR EXAMPLE, IN ENGLAND,
- 16:33 WHEN THEY TRANSLATED THE BIBLE >>INTO THEIR OWN LANGUAGE
- 16:36 AND PEOPLE, REALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME,
- 16:38 WERE READING THE BIBLE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 1500 YEAR IN THE >>HISTORY OF THE CHURCH.
- 16:42 BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IN THE MIDDLE AGES, FIRST OF ALL,
- 16:45 THE BRITISH EXPELLED THE JEWS IN 1290 AND THEN CHRISTIANITY WAS ROMAN CATHOLICISM,
- 16:52 STAINED GLASS WINDOWS, THE 12 >>STATIONS OF THE CROSS AND MASS
- 16:55 AND PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW THE >>STORIES AND THE DETAILS OF THE >>OLD TESTAMENT.
- 16:59 THEY KNEW SOME OF THE BIG ONES LIKE THE FALL AND FLOOD AND SOME >>OF THOSE.
- 17:02 BUT, THEY DIDN'T KNOW KINGS AND CHRONICLES AND JOSHUA AND JUDGES.
- 17:05 WHEN THE BRITISH PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE ON THE CONTINENT OF EUROPE,
- 17:09 AS WELL, TO A LESSER DEGREE, STARTED READING THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES,
- 17:14 THEY BEGAN TO IDENTIFY WITH ISRAEL
- 17:15 AND THEY WOULD TAKE EVENT THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THEIR COUNTRY, FOR EXAMPLE THE SPANISH ARMADA.
- 17:21 THE BRITISH SAID WE'RE KIND OF >>LIKE ISRAEL OVER HERE,
- 17:24 THIS SMALL COUNTRY AND WE'RE >>BEING ATTACKED BY OUR ENEMIES,
- 17:26 NOT THAT THEY SAID "WE'RE >>ISRAEL", BUT LIKE WE DO TODAY,
- 17:30 WE MAKE AN ANALOGY BETWEEN EVENTS OF THE DETAIL THAT >>HAPPENED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
- 17:35 LO AND BEHOLD, THEY STARTED BECOMING PRE-MILLENNIAL
- 17:38 AND THEY STARTED BELIEVING THAT THE JEWS WOULD ONE DAY RETURN TO >>THE LAND.
- 17:43 THERE WAS A GUY IN THE LATE 1500S NAMED FRANCIS KETT
- 17:48 WHO HAD A BACHELOR'S AND >>MASTER'S DEGREE FROM CAMBRIDGE
- 17:50 WHO WROTE A COUPLE OF PAGES IN A >>BOOK SAYING THE JEWS WOULD RETURN TO THE LAND.
- 17:55 WELL, GUESS WHAT, WITHIN ONE >>MONTH HE WAS BURNED AT THE STAKE >>FOR TEACHING THAT.
- 18:01 THE SCRIPTURE TEACHES IT SO CLEARLY.
- 18:04 I KNOW, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS WAS >>COMING BACK IN A PARLANCE
- 18:07 AND BY THE EARLY 1600S WITH THE >>RISE OF THE PURITAN MOVEMENT,
- 18:10 ALMOST ALL THE PURITANS WERE BECOMING PRE-MILLENNIAL
- 18:13 AND WERE STARTING TO WRITE BOOKS >>AND THINGS ABOUT ISRAEL RETURNING TO THE LAND.
- 18:19 IN FACT, THERE WAS A GUY NAMED >>SIR HENRY FINCH AND BEFORE >>BLACKSTONE'S LEGAL COMMENTARIES,
- 18:26 WHICH MANY OF YOUR VIEWERS HAVE >>PROBABLY HEARD OF,
- 18:28 SIR HENRY FINCH WAS THE MOST, THERE WAS A FINCH COMMENTARY
- 18:31 AND HE WAS THE GREATEST LEGAL SCHOLAR IN ENGLAND UP UNTIL BLACKSTONE CAME ALONG
- 18:37 AND HE WROTE A WHOLE BOOK >>DETAILING THAT THE JEWS WOULD BE >>RETURNED TO THE LAND
- 18:44 AND HOW IT WOULD HAPPEN AND ALL >>THIS KIND OF STUFF.
- 18:46 KING JAMES PUT HIM IN PRISON AND >>PUT HIM AND HIS PUBLISHER IN PRISON FOR DOING THAT
- 18:54 BECAUSE HE HAD THE AUDACITY TO >>SAY THAT ALL THE KINGS OF THE EARTH
- 18:58 WOULD ONE DAY BOW DOWN TO THE KING IN JERUSALEM, JESUS.
- 19:02 BOY, HE'S NOT THE FIRST TO SAY THAT.
- 19:04 ISAIAH SAID THAT.
- 19:05 THAT'S RIGHT AND KING JAMES >>DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT HE'D >>HAVE TO ONE DAY BOW DOWN TO,
- 19:09 AND HE PUT HIM IN PRISON AND HE >>DIED SHORTLY AFTER THAT.
- 19:12 DIDN'T KING JAMES READ THE KING JAMES BIBLE?
- 19:14 WELL, 1621, I GUESS IT WAS AROUND BACK THEM.
- 19:18 IF HE DID, HE READ IT WITH A JAUNDICED EYE OR VERY DARK SET OF GLASSES.
- 19:24 A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THAT.
- 19:25 YOU KNOW, MY BIBLE, WHICH IS AN >>OLD SCOFIELD, IN THE NOTES TO THE NATION OF GOG AND MAGOG,
- 19:30 EZEKIEL 38 AND 39 HE USES, HE >>SAYS, THIS WILL BE AN INVASION >>AGAINST DISPERSED ISRAEL
- 19:38 AND THEN ELUDES TO THE FACT THEY >>WILL BE BACK IN THE LAND WHEN THE PROPHECY HAPPENS.
- 19:43 WELL, EXACTLY AND THAT'S WHAT WE >>FIND WHEN THE PEOPLE
- 19:46 FOR THE FIRST TIME REALLY IN THE >>HISTORY OF THE CHURCH,
- 19:49 WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS IN THE EARLY CHURCH,
- 19:50 GOT AHOLD OF THE SCRIPTURES AND STARTED READING THEM, THEY SAID THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES.
- 19:55 ISN'T THAT AMAZING.
- 19:56 AND YOU COME TO THIS COUNTY, IN THE UNITED STATES
- 19:59 AND WE WERE FOUNDED BY A LOT OF >>THESE PURITANS
- 20:02 AND AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE THE HISTORY OF MEDIEVAL >>ANTI-SEMITISM THAT EUROPE HAS.
- 20:10 THIS IS PROBABLY WHY ONE THIRD >>OF WORLD JEWRY LIVES IN UNITED STATES.
- 20:14 ONE THIRD LIVES IN ISRAEL, ONE THIRD LIVES IN THE UNITED STATES,
- 20:17 ACTUALLY IT'S SOMETHING LIKE >>40%, I BELIEVE, LIVE IN UNITED STATES AND 40% LIVE IN ISRAEL.
- 20:22 WELL, IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN VERY PHILIO-SEMITIC DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS.
- 20:29 WE'VE LOVED THE JEWS.
- 20:30 WE'VE LOVED THE JEWS AND THAT >>GOES BACK TO OUR PURITAN ROOTS.
- 20:32 IN FACT, INCREASE MATHER WROTE HIS FIRST BOOK OUT OF 125 BOOKS,
- 20:36 HIS SON COTTON MATHER WROTE 425, >>BUT NEVER THE LESS,
- 20:39 WAS ON THE RESTORATION OF THE JEWS TO ISRAEL
- 20:42 AND WAS HIS FAVORITE BOOK, WENT >>THROUGH SIX REVISIONS
- 20:44 AND THIS WAS DISSEMINATED THROUGHOUT THE COLONIES AND THIS >>SET THE TONE FOR AMERICA.
- 20:50 IN FACT, GEORGE WASHINGTON HAD A POLICY THAT HE WANTED THE JEWS >>TO RETURN TO THE LAND.
- 20:55 JOHN QUINCY ADAMS, WHO WAS CHRISTIAN PRESIDENT,
- 20:56 HAD AN EXTENSIVE FOREIGN POLICY >>STATING THAT HE WANTED TO SEE THE JEWS RETURN TO ISRAEL.
- 21:01 SO, THIS IDEA THAT CHRISTIAN ZIONISM SOMEHOW STARTED WITH DARBY IN 1830,
- 21:07 NOW DARBY CERTAINLY BELIEVED IN >>THIS, IS JUST BOGUS.
- 21:10 IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR 250 YEARS.
- 21:11 IT CORRESPONDS WITH THE RISE OF >>PEOPLE STUDYING THE BIBLE.
- 21:16 SO, WHAT IS AMAZING NOW IS WE'RE >>SEEING A DECLINE
- 21:20 AMONG EVANGELICALS IN SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL.
- 21:25 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A DECLINE YET AT THE POPULAR LEVEL, ZOLA,
- 21:28 BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE PEOPLE WITHIN EVANGELICALISM
- 21:31 WHO ARE OPPOSED TO A LITERAL READING OF THE BIBLE,
- 21:35 WHO ARE OPPOSED TO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MODERN STATE OF ISRAEL
- 21:39 IS IN THE PROCESS OF FULFILLING PROPHECY AND SETTING THE STAGE >>FOR THE TRIBULATION
- 21:44 AND OPPOSED TO THAT KIND OF READING OR UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE,
- 21:48 THEY'RE GETTING A BETTER VOICE >>IT SEEMS SINCE 9-11.
- 21:51 THERE SEEMS TO BE A COROLLARY BETWEEN 9-11 AND THEIR VIEWS RESONATING WITH PEOPLE.
- 21:58 YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
- 21:59 AND WE'VE HAD 2 OTHER BIG INFLUENCES, AS YOU'RE TALKING
- 22:02 I'M THINKING THE DOWNFALL AND >>THE DECLINE OF THE SEMINARIES,
- 22:06 MOODY AND DALLAS AND TALBOT >>SINCE MAYBE 1985 OR SO TURNING TO PROGRESSIVE DISPENATIONALISM
- 22:13 AND SCREWY DOCTRINES OF PROPHECY, CUTTING ISRAEL OUT >>AND THE INFLUX OF THE MUSLIMS.
- 22:19 THAT'S RIGHT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER IN EUROPE,
- 22:24 YOU'RE SEEING THIS IMMIGRATION >>ACROSS EUROPE
- 22:28 AND THEY ARE FORMING 9, 10, 11% OF MANY COUNTRIES VOTING BLOCK
- 22:36 AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE COALITIONS OVER THERE SO THEY DON'T WANT TO >>OFFEND PEOPLE
- 22:40 AND WE'VE SEEN WHAT SCHOLARS >>BACK IN THE 1970S STARTED USING >>AFTER THE 6 DAY WAR,
- 22:47 A TERM CALLED "THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM".
- 22:49 IN FACT THERE ARE 7 OR 8 NEW BOOKS SINCE 9-11
- 22:52 THAT HAVE THAT IN THE TITLE, >>MAINLY WRITTEN BY JEWISH PEOPLE.
- 22:56 WHAT IS THE NEW-ANTI-SEMITISM?
- 22:57 WELL THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM >>IS THAT PEOPLE HATE ISRAEL,
- 23:02 THE CORPORATE STATE IN THE SAME >>WAY THEY HATED THE INDIVIDUAL JEWS IN THE 1930S.
- 23:08 SO, THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM IS, YOU GET UP AND YOU SAY THINGS AGAINST ISRAEL AND YOU SAY,
- 23:16 WELL, I'M NOT ANTI-SEMITIC BECAUSE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL JEWS--
- 23:19 JUST THEIR POLICIES OVER THERE.
- 23:21 IT'S THEIR POLICIES OVER THERE.
- 23:22 THAT REMINDS OF BILLY GRAHAM,
- 23:23 HE SAID HE COULDN'T TELL THE NEW MORALITY FROM THE OLD IMMORALITY.
- 23:28 I CAN'T TELL THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM FROM THE OLD STUFF.
- 23:32 EXACTLY, THEY FEEL A FREEDOM ON THESE--
- 23:35 YOU HAVE THE RISE OF THE CABLE >>SHOWS WHERE THEY SIT AD INFINITUM
- 23:38 AND TALK ABOUT ALL THESE ISSUES AND ISRAEL IS ALWAYS ONE OF THE >>MAIN TOPICS,
- 23:42 WHEN SOME EVENT HAPPENS THEN THEY HAVE ALL THESE, SPECIALLY ARABS
- 23:45 THAT GET ON THERE AND TRASH ISRAEL AND TALK ABOUT THEM IN A BAD WAY
- 23:49 AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EGYPT AND SYRIA AND IRAN AND >>THE ARAB WORLD
- 23:54 AND I'VE GOTTEN HUNDREDS OF >>CARTOONS, FOR EXAMPLE, OFF THE >>INTERNET FROM THE ARAB WORLD.
- 24:00 THERE'S A SITE WHERE YOU CAN GET >>THEM AND THEY'RE USING,
- 24:02 YOU'VE BEEN TO YAD VASHEM, OR THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM IN WASHINGTON D. C.
- 24:07 AND THERE'S A CERTAIN TYPE OF ART, CARTOONING
- 24:09 THAT THEY WERE DOING IN THE 30S >>IN GERMANY THAT HAS A CERTAIN LOOK AND FEEL.
- 24:14 IT'S COMING BACK. >>IT'S COMING BACK.
- 24:16 THEY'RE USING THE SAME EXACT >>LOOK AND FEEL IN THE ARAB WORLD
- 24:21 TO DEMONIZE THE JEWS IN A SIMILAR WAY.
- 24:24 WHEN I WALKED IN THAT MUSEUM IN >>WASHINGTON, YOU GO ACROSS A >>LITTLE BRIDGE AT THE BEGINNING
- 24:30 AND YOU LOOK DOWN A LONG HALLWAY >>AND ON THE WALL
- 24:33 IS ISAIAH WHATEVER IT IS, YE ARE MY WITNESSES.
- 24:38 IT REALLY GOES THROUGH YOU.
- 24:40 I MEAN, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO LIVE >>TO TELL ABOUT THIS.
- 24:42 WELL, EXACTLY AND YOU'VE GOT >>HOLOCAUST DENIER ABBAS, THE HEAD OF THE PALESTINIAN ASSOCIATION.
- 24:51 THE NEW HOPE.
- 24:52 THEY JUST PUBLISHED A BRAND NEW >>COPY OF THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION IN ARABIC
- 24:59 IN EGYPT AND SYRIA AND ALL THESE >>KINDS OF THINGS
- 25:00 AND YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THESE THINGS OCCURRING AND THEY'RE SPILLING OVER INTO EUROPE NOW
- 25:07 AND THEY'RE SPILLING OVER INTO AMERICA.
- 25:08 I'LL BET OUR VIEWERS WOULD PROBABLY SURPRISED TO LEARN
- 25:11 THERE'S BEEN 7 OR 8 RIOTS SINCE 9-11 IN NORTH AMERICA ON COLLEGE >>CAMPUSES OVER ISRAEL.
- 25:17 OH SURE, TOMMY IS THIS ALL TAKING US INTO THE TRIBULATION NOW.
- 25:21 I THINK IT IS.
- 25:22 YOU'VE GOT THE PROPHECY IN ZECHARIAH
- 25:25 AND I THINK THIS IS A PROPHECY >>THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR IN THE TRIBULATION AND IT SAYS
- 25:44 CHUCK MISSLER, A FRIEND OF OURS SAYS, YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO >>BE A GLOBAL HERNIA
- 25:48 TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE ARAB-ISRAELI CONFLICT.
- 25:52 THAT SOUNDS LIKE CHUCK MISSLER.
- 25:54 EXACTLY, THAT OCCURS.
- 25:55 THE POINT IS THAT WE'RE SEEING >>THIS ALREADY BEING PREPARED,
- 25:59 THE STAGE IS BEING SET AND I >>THINK WHEN THE RAPTURE OCCURS,
- 26:03 AMERICA UNFORTUNATELY IS GOING TO JOIN EUROPE AND THE REST OF >>THESE PEOPLE
- 26:09 BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE LOST OUR >>EVANGELICAL BIBLICAL INFLUENCE.
- 26:13 THAT'LL BE IT.
- 26:14 TOMMY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU >>BACK NEXT WEEK.
- 26:15 I'M SORRY THE TIME FLIES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN.
- 26:17 THANKS FOR SHARING AND WE'LL PICK IT UP AGAIN NEXT WEEK ON THIS POINT.
- 26:23 HE'S A WONDERFUL SCHOLAR, AUTHOR >>OF MANY BOOKS, A SEMINARY DOCTORATE AND SO ON.
- 26:29 I DON'T HAVE HIS BIOGRAPHY IN >>FRONT OF ME, BUT I THINK YOU CAN >>HEAR HIS WISDOM.
- 26:34 THANKS FOR SHARING, I APPRECIATE IT.
- 26:37 AND FOLKS OUT THERE, WHATEVER THEY SAY,
- 26:40 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM >>PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.
Episodes in this series
- Academic Terrorism with Joan Peters, Part 1
- Academic Terrorism with Joan Peters, Part 2
- Guest: Benny Elon (Knesset member)
- The March
- Counter Terrorism
- Biblical Heartland
- The Hill of Evil Council with Tom McCall
- Trials and Tribulations with Tom McCall
- Hated of All Nations with Tommy Ice
- Truth be Told with Tommy Ice
- Israel: Who Owns the Land?
- Israel and Prophecy with Tommy Ice