
Hated of All Nations with Tommy Ice
Air dates: 2005-Oct-16
Production Code: 788
Episode 9 of 12 in the series “Age of Terror Continued”
Duration: 28:31
Year: 2005
Closed Captioned
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Caption transcript for Age of Terror Continued: “Hated of All Nations” with Tommy Ice (9/12)
- 00:29 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
- 00:31 I'M BACK AFTER MY BYPASS OPERATION AND BY THE WAY, THANKS FOR THE PRAYERS.
- 00:35 I TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK AND I FORGOT TO THANK YOU.
- 00:38 I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CARDS, THE LETTERS, THE PRAYERS.
- 00:41 I WROTE IN ONE OF MY LETTERS WE SEND OUT, I ALWAYS KNEW I HAD PLENTY OF SUPPORTERS,
- 00:48 I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD THAT MANY FRIENDS.
- 00:50 THAT'S TERRIFIC.
- 00:51 MY BROKEN HEART IS FIXED AND THE DOCTOR SAYS I MIGHT HAVE 20 MORE YEARS, SO STAY TUNED.
- 00:57 WE HAVE A LOT TO SAY.
- 00:59 DURING THE SIX WEEKS WE WERE OFF, I MEAN, I WAS OFF, WE RAN NEW PROGRAMMING ANYWAY.
- 01:05 WE KEEP IT AHEAD OF TIME AND THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO CONCERN ANTI-SEMITISM.
- 01:12 WE'RE GOING TO START AT THE YAD VASHEM IN JERUSALEM,
- 01:16 THE MUSEUM OF THE HOLOCAUST WHERE EVERY UNIVERSITY GRADUATE IN ISRAEL HAS TO GO THROUGH IT
- 01:21 AND EVERY ONE OF MY TOURISTS HAS TO GO THROUGH IT.
- 01:24 WE NEED TO REMEMBER WHAT THE GERMANS DID BECAUSE IT'S SO FAR BEYOND ANYTHING IN HISTORY,
- 01:30 SO COMPLETELY CRAZY AND MURDEROUS THAT WE NEED TO REALLY STUDY IT.
- 01:36 THEN THE ANTI-SEMITISM CONTINUED ALL THROUGH HISTORY, THEY DIDN'T INVENT IT.
- 01:42 PHARAOH INVENTED IT, I GUESS, OR EVEN EARLIER.
- 01:44 IT'S ENVY, IT'S THE DEVIL, BUT IN ANY CASE, TOMMY ICE IS GOING TO BE WITH US.
- 01:49 HE'S A THEOLOGIAN.
- 01:50 HE'S NOT JEWISH, BUT HE'S WRITTEN A TERRIFIC BOOK ON ANTI-SEMITISM,
- 01:54 ANALYZED THE THING THOROUGHLY AND WITH HIS TERRIFIC BIBLICAL KNOWLEDGE,
- 01:59 YOU COULD SAY A LOT TO THE IDEA THAT THIS REALLY IS THE BATTLE OF JOB 1.
- 02:04 THE DEVIL'S GOING TO AND FRO LOOKING FOR TROUBLE IN THE WORLD.
- 02:08 THE LORD SAID, HAS THOU CONSIDERED BY SERVANT JOB,
- 02:11 A TYPE OF RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE, A CHOSEN PEOPLE
- 02:14 AND THE DEVIL SAYS, AH, JOB IS RICH,
- 02:17 JUST TAKE AWAY WHAT HE HAS, HE'LL CURSE YOU TO YOUR FACE.
- 02:20 HE DID NOT CURSE GOD.
- 02:22 HE SAID, YE THOUGH HE SLAY ME, YET WILL I TRUST IN HIM.
- 02:27 SO, LET'S GO NOW TO JERUSALEM AND THE YAD VASHEM.
- 02:31 WE'RE AT YAD VASHEM THIS MORNING,
- 02:34 THAT'S THE MUSEUM OF THE HOLOCAUST IN JERUSALEM.
- 02:37 THE NAME IS LIKE A HAND AND MONUMENT,
- 02:40 A NAME FOR THOSE WHO DIED NAMELESS IN VARIOUS HOLOCAUSTS THROUGH THE AGES.
- 02:48 THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN ONE, BUT, THIS ONE COMMEMORATES ESPECIALLY THE WWII HOLOCAUST.
- 02:53 THE RELIEF BEHIND ME IS THE JEWS LEAVING A GHETTO.
- 02:56 IT DOESN'T EVEN IDENTIFY WHAT GHETTO.
- 02:59 THERE'VE BEEN GHETTOS FROM PHARAOH'S EGYPT
- 03:02 ALL THE WAY TO WARSAW IN WWII AND THE JEWS TRUDGING OUT OF THEM MUCH LIKE WE SEE HERE.
- 03:08 ANTI-SEMITISM IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE GOD CHOSE THE JEWS.
- 03:16 JOB 1 TELLS ABOUT IT AND THERE'S A BATTLE BETWEEN GOD AND SATAN,
- 03:42 IN OTHER WORDS LOOKING FOR TROUBLE.
- 03:55 THAT IS, JOB IS LIKE A CHOSEN PERSON, LIKE A JEWISH PERSON IF YOU WILL,
- 04:01 THAT HE IS RIGHTEOUS, HE WORSHIPS GOD, HE DOES NO EVIL, HE AVOIDS IT.
- 04:23 HE SAYS, JOB IS RICH, IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF HIS BEING FAITHFUL TO GOD.
- 04:27 HE'S WEALTHY.
- 04:28 HE HAS NO PROBLEMS AND SO HE EASILY TURNS TO GOD.
- 04:51 THE DIALOGUES IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
- 04:53 SATAN SAYS RICH PEOPLE HAVE NO PROBLEM,
- 04:56 BUT, TAKE AWAY WHAT THEY HAVE, THEY'LL CURSE YOU TO YOUR FACE.
- 04:59 AND GOD IN EFFECT SAYS, ALRIGHT I'M GOING TO LET YOU DO IT,
- 05:02 BUT IF YOU THINK THAT JOB WILL CURSE ME TO MY FACE, YOU DON'T KNOW JOB.
- 05:08 AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE READ THAT TRAGIC BOOK OF JOB
- 05:12 AND EVERYTHING IS TAKEN AWAY FROM HIM, HE'S SICK, HE'S LYING ON THE GROUND WITH BOILS,
- 05:16 HIS FRIENDS ADVISE HIM THAT IT'S HIS SINS IN QUESTION AND SO ON.
- 05:21 NONE OF THAT IS RIGHT.
- 05:23 HE'S SIMPLY A PAWN IN A GIANT CHESS GAME AND MAYBE ALL OF US ARE,
- 05:26 BUT HE DOES NOT EVER CURSE GOD TO HIS FACE.
- 05:31 JOB ENDS UP SAYING, AT HIS WORSE TIME, YE, THOUGH HE SLAY ME, YET WILL I TRUST IN HIM.
- 05:38 THE JEWISH PEOPLE STILL TRUST IN GOD EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE BEEN SLAIN AND SLAIN AGAIN.
- 05:44 THEY'VE BEEN HATED AND PEOPLE HAVE GONE OUT OF THEIR WAY
- 05:49 TO GREAT TROUBLE AND EXPENSE TO KILL THEM, TO BREAK THEIR TEMPLES DOWN,
- 05:54 TO GET RID OF THEM AS WE'RE SEEING IN TODAY'S WORLD.
- 05:57 IT'S NOT BATTLES I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE.
- 06:01 THOSE ARE ROUTINE WITH COUNTRIES.
- 06:04 IT'S THE IDEA THAT THE JEWS HAVE BEEN AROUND AND BEEN CHOSEN
- 06:07 AND ARE THE WORLD'S OLDEST PEOPLE, BY FAR.
- 06:11 IF YOU DON'T THINK IT'S TRUE, THEN TELL ME ANOTHER PEOPLE
- 06:14 THAT WORSHIP THE SAME GOD FOR 4000 YEARS.
- 06:18 THE CHINESE ARE AN OLD PEOPLE, YOU MIGHT SAY, THEY'VE BEEN OVER THERE FOREVER AND EVER,
- 06:21 BUT, THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR RELIGION A HUNDRED TIMES.
- 06:24 WHAT WOULD AN ANCIENT CONFUCIAN CHINESE HAVE TO SAY TO A MODERN CHINESE COMMUNIST FROM BEIJING?
- 06:30 THERE'S BEEN 25 RELIGIONS BETWEEN, I SUPPOSE.
- 06:34 YOU KNOW THEY FOUND AN ALTAR FROM JOSHUA'S TIME, 35 CENTURIES AGO,
- 06:41 AN ALTAR WAS CARVED IN THE ANCIENT HEBREW LANGUAGE
- 06:45 AND IT'S THE SAME PRAYER YOU'D CARVE ON AN ALTAR NOW
- 06:49 AND IT'S FOUND IN THE EARTH OVER HERE SHOWING, WHAT CAN I SAY?
- 06:55 THE UNITED STATES HAS HAD ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 200 YEARS HISTORY
- 06:59 AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 4000 YEARS HERE.
- 07:02 IF THE BIBLE HAD ONLY ONE PROPHECY, THAT THE PEOPLE GOD CHOSE WILL SURVIVE UNTIL NOW,
- 07:09 IT WOULD BE A VALUABLE BOOK OF PROPHECY, THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO THAT.
- 07:13 IN ANY CASE, LET ME MENTION SOME OF THE ANTI-SEMITES OF THE PAST AND GIVE THEM DUE CREDIT.
- 07:18 OF COURSE, PHARAOH IN EGYPT, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING,
- 07:21 WHO ENSLAVED THE PEOPLE 400 YEARS.
- 07:23 NEBUCHADNEZZAR CAME AND CONQUERED JUDAH AND TOOK AWAY THE TRIBES,
- 07:30 BUT HE ALSO STOPPED FOR THE LONG, EXPENSIVE, DIFFICULT TASK
- 07:36 OF TEARING DOWN SOLOMON'S GREAT TEMPLE, A WONDER OF THE ANCIENT WORLD, STONE BY STONE.
- 07:41 IT MUST HAVE TAKEN YEARS.
- 07:43 IT WAS A TERRIBLY HARD JOB.
- 07:45 ANTIOCHUS, WHO CAME IN 165, NOT ONLY RAIDED THE TEMPLE,
- 07:50 TOOK OVER THE PLACE AND BECAME IN EFFECT, A DICTATOR OF ISRAEL,
- 07:54 BUT, HE SACRIFICED A PIG ON THE ALTAR.
- 07:57 THIS IS GOING OUT OF ONE'S WAY TO MAKE SURE THE JEWS ARE COMPLETELY HATED.
- 08:03 AFTER THE LORD CAME, IN 70 A.D., TITUS TORE DOWN HEROD'S TEMPLE,
- 08:09 THE SECOND TEMPLE TO BE TORN DOWN AND THAT WAS A JOB.
- 08:13 IT TOOK HEROD GENERATIONS TO REALLY COMPLETE THE PLACE
- 08:17 AND IT WAS FOUR ACRES OF STONE CONSTRUCTION AND IT TOOK TEAMS OF HORSES
- 08:22 AND HOOKS AND BLOCK AND TACKLE AND ENDLESS WORK AGAIN TO LEVEL IT TO THE GROUND
- 08:27 TO FULFILL THE PROPHECY OF THE MESSIAH WHO SAID
- 08:29 THERE SHALL NOT BE LEFT HERE ONE STONE UPON ANOTHER THAT SHALL NOT BE THROWN DOWN.
- 08:34 A GREAT DISASTER.
- 08:37 1.1 MILLION PEOPLE KILLED, JEWISH PEOPLE, IN 5 MONTH'S TIME,
- 08:42 AN UNARMED NATION TRAPPED IN THE TEMPLE SITE VERSUS THE ROMAN LEGIONS WITH THEIR LONG SPEARS.
- 08:47 AFTER THE TEMPLE'S TORN DOWN, THE JEWS ARE STILL TRYING TO WORSHIP,
- 08:53 PROBABLY AT THE WESTERN WALL.
- 08:55 THE RETAINING WALLS DOWN BELOW WEREN'T TORN DOWN.
- 08:58 THEY HOLD THE MOUNTAIN TOGETHER, BUT SINCE THEY'RE A REAL RELIC OF THE ANCIENT TEMPLE,
- 09:04 THE JEWS WORSHIP THERE, I GUESS AND THE WORSHIP THERE TODAY.
- 09:07 THE EMPEROR HADRIAN WOULD HAVE NONE OF THAT.
- 09:11 HE CAME INTO THE TEMPLE SITE, HE PUT THE TEMPLE OF JUPITER UP THERE ON THE PLATFORM.
- 09:16 THIS IS GOING OUT OF THE WAY, THIS IS VERY EXPENSIVE,
- 09:19 THIS IS TO MAKE A WHOLE TEMPLE IN SOME FOREIGN LAND
- 09:22 SOME BACK-WATER PROVINCE OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE
- 09:24 IS GOING OUT OF ONE'S WAY TO TRY TO DIG AT THE JEWS
- 09:29 AND THE CRUELEST THING HE DID WAS TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE COUNTRY TO PALESTINE.
- 09:34 WE STILL HAVE THIS ANTI-SEMITIC TERM WITH US TODAY,
- 09:38 A PEOPLE CALLING THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS SPURIOUSLY.
- 09:41 BUT, STILL AND ALL, THEY TAKE THE TERM BECAUSE IT'S ANTI-JEWISH.
- 09:45 IT WAS ORIGINALLY INVENTED AS THE NAME FROM THE ERA OF THE PHILISTINES,
- 09:51 WHO, BY THE WAY WEREN'T ARABS, THEY WERE GREEKS.
- 09:53 THERE'S NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PHILISTINES
- 09:55 AND THE ARAB WHO TODAY CALL THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS.
- 09:58 HADRIAN MADE SURE THE PLACE WAS CALLED PALESTINE
- 10:02 AND THE NAME STUCK ALL THE WAY TO THE 20TH CENTURY.
- 10:05 THE CRUSADERS CAME WITH LONG SUPPLY LINES FROM ENGLAND, SWEDEN, FRANCE, GERMANY
- 10:10 AND THEY MARCHED THROUGH EUROPE AND THE SLAUGHTERED JEWS EVERYWHERE.
- 10:13 THEY WERE COMING TO TAKE THE HOLY LAND BACK FROM THE INFIDELS,
- 10:18 BUT, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, THE JEWS WEREN'T THE INFIDELS.
- 10:20 THAT'S PRETTY BAD BIBLE READING.
- 10:22 PERHAPS YOU WANTED TO TAKE IT FROM THE MUSLIMS,
- 10:24 IT'S THE REVERSE OF WHAT WE SEE TODAY.
- 10:27 TODAY THE MUSLIMS CALL US JEWS AND CHRISTIAN, "INFIDELS",
- 10:32 BUT BACK THEN THEY CALL THE JEWS AND MUSLIMS "INFIDELS",
- 10:36 THESE CHRISTIAN ARMIES WITH MORE LONG SPEARS
- 10:39 AND JUST MURDERING PEOPLE EVERYWHERE AND OCCUPYING JERUSALEM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
- 10:46 GIVE PROPER CREDIT TO THE TURKS WHO RODE IN HERE IN 1517.
- 10:50 I ALWAYS POINT OUT WHEN I GET TO THIS PLACE IN ALL THAT HISTORY,
- 10:54 THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME COLUMBUS DISCOVERED AMERICA.
- 10:57 SO, THE JEWS REALLY ARE A PRETTY OLD PEOPLE.
- 10:59 THE TURKS TOOK OVER AND KEPT THIS PLACE FOR 4 CENTURIES.
- 11:02 THEY CUT OUT THE TREES, THEY MADE TIES FOR THEIR RAILROADS WITH THE TREES,
- 11:06 BUT THEY DIDN'T PLANT ANYTHING AND TURNED THE PLACE IN THE GOD-FORSAKEN WILDERNESS
- 11:11 WITH SWAMPS AND DESERT LAND AND SO ON, CHANGED THE ECOLOGY OF ISRAEL, IF YOU WILL
- 11:16 AND HAD TO BE CHANGED BACK WHEN THE JEWS RETURNED IN 1948.
- 11:20 AFTER WWI THE BRITISH TOOK OVER THE PLACE.
- 11:24 THEY WERE ALSO EXTREMELY UNKIND TO THE JEWS, THEY STILL ARE.
- 11:27 THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY LOVE LOST BETWEEN BRITISH PEOPLE AND JEWISH PEOPLE
- 11:32 AND IN OUR OWN DAY, BRINGING IT RIGHT UP TO DATE,
- 11:35 EVEN IN AMERICA THE ANTI-SEMITISM, I SPEAK OF ANTI-SEMITISM NOW,
- 11:39 NOT TAKING A POSITION BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIANS OR ANYTHING,
- 11:42 IT'S SIMPLE JEW HATRED OF THE KIND YOU GET FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES, THE WASHINGTON POST,
- 11:46 CNN, THE NETWORKS PERSONALITIES THAT WE LISTEN TO AND WERE TAUGHT BY,
- 11:52 PAT BUCHANAN, PETER JENNINGS, ROBERT NOVAK,
- 11:56 PEOPLE LIKE THIS GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY JUST LIKE THOSE CONQUERORS OF OLD,
- 12:00 JUST TO SAY SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.
- 12:04 THAT'S ANTI-SEMITISM.
- 12:07 IT'S BEEN WITH US FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL
- 12:09 AND IT'S ALL ABOUT GOD AND SATAN AND THE FACT THAT THESE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE CHOSEN.
- 12:16 AS TEVIA SAID IN "FIDDLER ON THE ROOF"
- 12:18 GOD, CHOOSE SOMEBODY ELSE FOR AWHILE.
- 12:36 ASK FOR OUR FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER
- 12:40 AND OUR CATALOG WITH VIDEOS, BOOKS AND MUSIC.
- 12:44 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, THE INSTITUTE OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES INCLUDES
- 12:49 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL IN TESTS.
- 12:53 DID YOU KNOW THAT ZOLA TAKES TOURS TO ISRAEL, GREECE
- 12:56 AND THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE THEME PARK IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA?
- 13:00 PLEASE CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
- 13:07 WELL, SADLY THE SUBJECT OF ANTI-SEMITISM JUST DOESN'T GO AWAY.
- 13:11 IT'S ON SOME PLACES IN THE WORLD AS VIRULENT TODAY
- 13:14 AS IT WAS IN THE HOLOCAUST THAT CREATED THAT YAD VASHEM AND IT'S EVERYWHERE.
- 13:21 HERE IN THE QUIET SUBURBS OF DALLAS, WE FOUND DEFACING OF A BUILDING
- 13:27 AT A MESSIANIC CONGREGATION, BARUCH HASHEM,
- 13:31 THERE'S AN IMPLIED COMPLIMENT THERE, THEY ARE MESSIANICS, HEBREW CHRISTIAN, SO TO SAY,
- 13:37 BUT THERE WAS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO CONVICT THEM OF THE JEWISH,
- 13:40 SO THEY WERE TREATED AS JEWS AND THE BUILDING DEFACED.
- 13:43 A VERY SAD THING.
- 13:45 WE WENT THERE AND WE TALKED TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CONGREGATION
- 13:49 ABOUT THE AWFUL THINGS THAT WERE WRITTEN THERE AND THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT THEM.
- 13:53 WE HAVE A HOME SCHOOL CO-OP HERE AT THE SYNAGOGUE.
- 13:56 THE CHILDREN MEET ONCE A WEEK
- 13:58 AND MONDAY MORNING IS WHEN THE GRAFFITI WAS DISCOVERED ON THE BUILDING
- 14:02 AND WHEN THE CHILDREN ARRIVED MONDAY MORNING,
- 14:05 THIS WAS THE FIRST THING THAT THEY SAW.
- 14:08 THE PERSECUTION OF JEWS WORLD WIDE,
- 14:11 IT BRINGS IT VERY HOME TO YOU.
- 14:13 IT'S NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S NOT EVEN DOWN TOWN
- 14:15 OR ANOTHER LOCATION, IT'S RIGHT HERE IN YOUR HOME
- 14:18 AND SO AS A FAMILY, AS WE KNOW, IF SOMEONE VANDALIZED THEIR OWN HOUSE,
- 14:23 THE FAMILY FEELS IT MUCH MORE SO WHEN YOU READ SOMETHING IN THE NEWS
- 14:27 OR READ SOMETHING IN THE PAPER, OR YOU SEE SOMETHING ON THE NEWS.
- 14:30 I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, ARE REGARDING THE SLOGAN BACK HERE IS,
- 14:33 THESE CHILDREN HAVE GROWN UP IN JEWISH HOMES AND BELIEVING IN YESHUA.
- 14:40 IT'S VERY NATURAL FOR THEM.
- 14:42 WHERE AS IN MY GENERATION, GROWING UP IN A MORE TRADITIONAL JEWISH HOME
- 14:46 AND THEN COMING TO FAITH IN YESHUA IS A WHOLE CHANGE.
- 14:51 BUT, FOR THEM THEY WERE WONDERING, DON'T THEY KNOW THAT YESHUA WAS A JEW
- 14:56 AND THAT HE'S THE JEWISH MESSIAH?
- 14:58 IT SEEMS LIKE THEIR "AGAINST SOMETHING"
- 15:01 IS THEIR STRONGER MOTIVATION VERSUS BEING FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SO POSITIVE.
- 15:14 WELL, OUR GUEST TODAY IS TOMMY ICE.
- 15:16 HE IS ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS.
- 15:18 I DON'T HAVE YOUR BIOGRAPHY IN FRONT OF ME.
- 15:20 NEVER MIND, HE'S BEEN EVERYWHERE AND DONE EVERYTHING.
- 15:23 HE'S A THEOLOGIAN OF SOME NOTE.
- 15:25 TOMMY, THIS SUBJECT OF ANTI-SEMITISM, YOU HAVE PREPARED A BOOK ON THE THING.
- 15:32 WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT IT?
- 15:34 WELL, THE BOOK IS CALLED "THE CASE FOR ZIONISM"
- 15:37 AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING, I THINK SINCE 9-11, ZOLA,
- 15:40 IS IN EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY, WHICH HISTORICALLY, AS WE KNOW,
- 15:45 YOU DOCUMENTED IN YOUR NEWSLETTER
- 15:47 ABOUT HOW YOU USED TO GO SPEAK HERE AND YOU USED TO SPEAK THERE
- 15:50 AND ALL OF THOSE "HERES AND THERES" ARE NOT AS FREQUENT AS THEY USED TO BE.
- 15:54 NO, DRYING UP.
- 15:56 AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT THERE IS A SHIFT, NOT JUST IN THE WORLD, WHICH IS OCCURRING,
- 16:01 BUT WITHIN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY.
- 16:03 LIBERALS HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH ANTI-ZIONISTIC FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
- 16:07 BY ZIONISM, WE MEAN PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT ISRAEL SHOULD BE IN THE LAND.
- 16:11 THAT ENCOMPASSED JEWS AND GENTILES WHO BELIEVE THAT WAY.
- 16:15 WE'RE SEEING--
- 16:16 GOD IS A ZIONIST, I ONCE POINTED OUT IN THE NEWSLETTER.
- 16:19 I DIDN'T GET MUCH OF AN ARGUMENT.
- 16:20 HE WOULD FAVOR THE JEWS BEING IN THE LAND.
- 16:22 IT'S PART OF HIS PLAN.
- 16:24 UNTIL THE MODERN ZIONIST MOVEMENT AMONG EVANGELICALS,
- 16:28 THEY USED TO CALL THIS "RESTORATIONISM".
- 16:30 AS FAR BACK AS THE LATE 1500S, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ENGLAND,
- 16:34 WHEN THEY TRANSLATED THE BIBLE INTO THEIR OWN LANGUAGE
- 16:37 AND PEOPLE, REALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME,
- 16:40 WERE READING THE BIBLE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 1500 YEAR IN THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH.
- 16:43 BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IN THE MIDDLE AGES, FIRST OF ALL,
- 16:47 THE BRITISH EXPELLED THE JEWS IN 1290 AND THEN CHRISTIANITY WAS ROMAN CATHOLICISM,
- 16:53 STAINED GLASS WINDOWS, THE 12 STATIONS OF THE CROSS AND MASS
- 16:56 AND PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW THE STORIES AND THE DETAILS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT.
- 17:00 THEY KNEW SOME OF THE BIG ONES LIKE THE FALL AND FLOOD AND SOME OF THOSE.
- 17:04 BUT, THEY DIDN'T KNOW KINGS AND CHRONICLES AND JOSHUA AND JUDGES.
- 17:07 WHEN THE BRITISH PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE ON THE CONTINENT OF EUROPE,
- 17:11 AS WELL, TO A LESSER DEGREE, STARTED READING THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES,
- 17:15 THEY BEGAN TO IDENTIFY WITH ISRAEL
- 17:17 AND THEY WOULD TAKE EVENT THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THEIR COUNTRY, FOR EXAMPLE THE SPANISH ARMADA.
- 17:22 THE BRITISH SAID WE'RE KIND OF LIKE ISRAEL OVER HERE,
- 17:25 THIS SMALL COUNTRY AND WE'RE BEING ATTACKED BY OUR ENEMIES,
- 17:28 NOT THAT THEY SAID "WE'RE ISRAEL", BUT LIKE WE DO TODAY,
- 17:32 WE MAKE AN ANALOGY BETWEEN EVENTS OF THE DETAIL THAT HAPPENED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
- 17:36 LO AND BEHOLD, THEY STARTED BECOMING PRE-MILLENNIAL
- 17:39 AND THEY STARTED BELIEVING THAT THE JEWS WOULD ONE DAY RETURN TO THE LAND.
- 17:45 THERE WAS A GUY IN THE LATE 1500S NAMED FRANCIS KETT
- 17:49 WHO HAD A BACHELOR'S AND MASTER'S DEGREE FROM CAMBRIDGE
- 17:52 WHO WROTE A COUPLE OF PAGES IN A BOOK SAYING THE JEWS WOULD RETURN TO THE LAND.
- 17:56 WELL, GUESS WHAT, WITHIN ONE MONTH HE WAS BURNED AT THE STAKE FOR TEACHING THAT.
- 18:02 THE SCRIPTURE TEACHES IT SO CLEARLY.
- 18:05 I KNOW, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS WAS COMING BACK IN A PARLANCE
- 18:08 AND BY THE EARLY 1600S WITH THE RISE OF THE PURITAN MOVEMENT,
- 18:11 ALMOST ALL THE PURITANS WERE BECOMING PRE-MILLENNIAL
- 18:15 AND WERE STARTING TO WRITE BOOKS AND THINGS ABOUT ISRAEL RETURNING TO THE LAND.
- 18:21 IN FACT, THERE WAS A GUY NAMED SIR HENRY FINCH AND BEFORE BLACKSTONE'S LEGAL COMMENTARIES,
- 18:27 WHICH MANY OF YOUR VIEWERS HAVE PROBABLY HEARD OF,
- 18:29 SIR HENRY FINCH WAS THE MOST, THERE WAS A FINCH COMMENTARY
- 18:33 AND HE WAS THE GREATEST LEGAL SCHOLAR IN ENGLAND UP UNTIL BLACKSTONE CAME ALONG
- 18:38 AND HE WROTE A WHOLE BOOK DETAILING THAT THE JEWS WOULD BE RETURNED TO THE LAND
- 18:45 AND HOW IT WOULD HAPPEN AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.
- 18:48 KING JAMES PUT HIM IN PRISON AND PUT HIM AND HIS PUBLISHER IN PRISON FOR DOING THAT
- 18:55 BECAUSE HE HAD THE AUDACITY TO SAY THAT ALL THE KINGS OF THE EARTH
- 19:00 WOULD ONE DAY BOW DOWN TO THE KING IN JERUSALEM, JESUS.
- 19:03 BOY, HE'S NOT THE FIRST TO SAY THAT.
- 19:04 ISAIAH SAID THAT.
- 19:06 THAT'S RIGHT AND KING JAMES DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT HE'D HAVE TO ONE DAY BOW DOWN TO,
- 19:10 AND HE PUT HIM IN PRISON AND HE DIED SHORTLY AFTER THAT.
- 19:13 DIDN'T KING JAMES READ THE KING JAMES BIBLE?
- 19:15 WELL, 1621, I GUESS IT WAS AROUND BACK THEM.
- 19:20 IF HE DID, HE READ IT WITH A JAUNDICED EYE OR VERY DARK SET OF GLASSES.
- 19:25 A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THAT.
- 19:27 YOU KNOW, MY BIBLE, WHICH IS AN OLD SCOFIELD, IN THE NOTES TO THE NATION OF GOG AND MAGOG,
- 19:32 EZEKIEL 38 AND 39 HE USES, HE SAYS, THIS WILL BE AN INVASION AGAINST DISPERSED ISRAEL
- 19:39 AND THEN ELUDES TO THE FACT THEY WILL BE BACK IN THE LAND WHEN THE PROPHECY HAPPENS.
- 19:44 WELL, EXACTLY AND THAT'S WHAT WE FIND WHEN THE PEOPLE
- 19:47 FOR THE FIRST TIME REALLY IN THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH,
- 19:50 WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS IN THE EARLY CHURCH,
- 19:52 GOT AHOLD OF THE SCRIPTURES AND STARTED READING THEM, THEY SAID THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES.
- 19:56 ISN'T THAT AMAZING.
- 19:58 AND YOU COME TO THIS COUNTY, IN THE UNITED STATES
- 20:01 AND WE WERE FOUNDED BY A LOT OF THESE PURITANS
- 20:03 AND AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE THE HISTORY OF MEDIEVAL ANTI-SEMITISM THAT EUROPE HAS.
- 20:11 THIS IS PROBABLY WHY ONE THIRD OF WORLD JEWRY LIVES IN UNITED STATES.
- 20:16 ONE THIRD LIVES IN ISRAEL, ONE THIRD LIVES IN THE UNITED STATES,
- 20:19 ACTUALLY IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 40%, I BELIEVE, LIVE IN UNITED STATES AND 40% LIVE IN ISRAEL.
- 20:24 WELL, IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN VERY PHILIO-SEMITIC DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS.
- 20:30 WE'VE LOVED THE JEWS.
- 20:31 WE'VE LOVED THE JEWS AND THAT GOES BACK TO OUR PURITAN ROOTS.
- 20:33 IN FACT, INCREASE MATHER WROTE HIS FIRST BOOK OUT OF 125 BOOKS,
- 20:38 HIS SON COTTON MATHER WROTE 425, BUT NEVER THE LESS,
- 20:41 WAS ON THE RESTORATION OF THE JEWS TO ISRAEL
- 20:43 AND WAS HIS FAVORITE BOOK, WENT THROUGH SIX REVISIONS
- 20:46 AND THIS WAS DISSEMINATED THROUGHOUT THE COLONIES AND THIS SET THE TONE FOR AMERICA.
- 20:52 IN FACT, GEORGE WASHINGTON HAD A POLICY THAT HE WANTED THE JEWS TO RETURN TO THE LAND.
- 20:56 JOHN QUINCY ADAMS, WHO WAS CHRISTIAN PRESIDENT,
- 20:58 HAD AN EXTENSIVE FOREIGN POLICY STATING THAT HE WANTED TO SEE THE JEWS RETURN TO ISRAEL.
- 21:03 SO, THIS IDEA THAT CHRISTIAN ZIONISM SOMEHOW STARTED WITH DARBY IN 1830,
- 21:09 NOW DARBY CERTAINLY BELIEVED IN THIS, IS JUST BOGUS.
- 21:11 IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR 250 YEARS.
- 21:13 IT CORRESPONDS WITH THE RISE OF PEOPLE STUDYING THE BIBLE.
- 21:17 SO, WHAT IS AMAZING NOW IS WE'RE SEEING A DECLINE
- 21:21 AMONG EVANGELICALS IN SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL.
- 21:27 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A DECLINE YET AT THE POPULAR LEVEL, ZOLA,
- 21:30 BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE PEOPLE WITHIN EVANGELICALISM
- 21:33 WHO ARE OPPOSED TO A LITERAL READING OF THE BIBLE,
- 21:36 WHO ARE OPPOSED TO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MODERN STATE OF ISRAEL
- 21:41 IS IN THE PROCESS OF FULFILLING PROPHECY AND SETTING THE STAGE FOR THE TRIBULATION
- 21:45 AND OPPOSED TO THAT KIND OF READING OR UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE,
- 21:49 THEY'RE GETTING A BETTER VOICE IT SEEMS SINCE 9-11.
- 21:52 THERE SEEMS TO BE A COROLLARY BETWEEN 9-11 AND THEIR VIEWS RESONATING WITH PEOPLE.
- 21:59 YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
- 22:00 AND WE'VE HAD 2 OTHER BIG INFLUENCES, AS YOU'RE TALKING
- 22:03 I'M THINKING THE DOWNFALL AND THE DECLINE OF THE SEMINARIES,
- 22:08 MOODY AND DALLAS AND TALBOT SINCE MAYBE 1985 OR SO TURNING TO PROGRESSIVE DISPENATIONALISM
- 22:15 AND SCREWY DOCTRINES OF PROPHECY, CUTTING ISRAEL OUT AND THE INFLUX OF THE MUSLIMS.
- 22:21 THAT'S RIGHT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER IN EUROPE,
- 22:25 YOU'RE SEEING THIS IMMIGRATION ACROSS EUROPE
- 22:29 AND THEY ARE FORMING 9, 10, 11% OF MANY COUNTRIES VOTING BLOCK
- 22:37 AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE COALITIONS OVER THERE SO THEY DON'T WANT TO OFFEND PEOPLE
- 22:42 AND WE'VE SEEN WHAT SCHOLARS BACK IN THE 1970S STARTED USING AFTER THE 6 DAY WAR,
- 22:48 A TERM CALLED "THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM".
- 22:50 IN FACT THERE ARE 7 OR 8 NEW BOOKS SINCE 9-11
- 22:53 THAT HAVE THAT IN THE TITLE, MAINLY WRITTEN BY JEWISH PEOPLE.
- 22:57 WHAT IS THE NEW-ANTI-SEMITISM?
- 22:59 WELL THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM IS THAT PEOPLE HATE ISRAEL,
- 23:04 THE CORPORATE STATE IN THE SAME WAY THEY HATED THE INDIVIDUAL JEWS IN THE 1930S.
- 23:10 SO, THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM IS, YOU GET UP AND YOU SAY THINGS AGAINST ISRAEL AND YOU SAY,
- 23:18 WELL, I'M NOT ANTI-SEMITIC BECAUSE I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL JEWS--
- 23:20 JUST THEIR POLICIES OVER THERE.
- 23:22 IT'S THEIR POLICIES OVER THERE.
- 23:23 THAT REMINDS OF BILLY GRAHAM,
- 23:25 HE SAID HE COULDN'T TELL THE NEW MORALITY FROM THE OLD IMMORALITY.
- 23:29 I CAN'T TELL THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM FROM THE OLD STUFF.
- 23:33 EXACTLY, THEY FEEL A FREEDOM ON THESE--
- 23:36 YOU HAVE THE RISE OF THE CABLE SHOWS WHERE THEY SIT AD INFINITUM
- 23:40 AND TALK ABOUT ALL THESE ISSUES AND ISRAEL IS ALWAYS ONE OF THE MAIN TOPICS,
- 23:43 WHEN SOME EVENT HAPPENS THEN THEY HAVE ALL THESE, SPECIALLY ARABS
- 23:46 THAT GET ON THERE AND TRASH ISRAEL AND TALK ABOUT THEM IN A BAD WAY
- 23:51 AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EGYPT AND SYRIA AND IRAN AND THE ARAB WORLD
- 23:56 AND I'VE GOTTEN HUNDREDS OF CARTOONS, FOR EXAMPLE, OFF THE INTERNET FROM THE ARAB WORLD.
- 24:01 THERE'S A SITE WHERE YOU CAN GET THEM AND THEY'RE USING,
- 24:04 YOU'VE BEEN TO YAD VASHEM, OR THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM IN WASHINGTON D. C.
- 24:08 AND THERE'S A CERTAIN TYPE OF ART, CARTOONING
- 24:11 THAT THEY WERE DOING IN THE 30S IN GERMANY THAT HAS A CERTAIN LOOK AND FEEL.
- 24:15 IT'S COMING BACK. IT'S COMING BACK.
- 24:17 THEY'RE USING THE SAME EXACT LOOK AND FEEL IN THE ARAB WORLD
- 24:22 TO DEMONIZE THE JEWS IN A SIMILAR WAY.
- 24:26 WHEN I WALKED IN THAT MUSEUM IN WASHINGTON, YOU GO ACROSS A LITTLE BRIDGE AT THE BEGINNING
- 24:31 AND YOU LOOK DOWN A LONG HALLWAY AND ON THE WALL
- 24:34 IS ISAIAH WHATEVER IT IS, YE ARE MY WITNESSES.
- 24:39 IT REALLY GOES THROUGH YOU.
- 24:41 I MEAN, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO LIVE TO TELL ABOUT THIS.
- 24:44 WELL, EXACTLY AND YOU'VE GOT HOLOCAUST DENIER ABBAS, THE HEAD OF THE PALESTINIAN ASSOCIATION.
- 24:52 THE NEW HOPE.
- 24:54 THEY JUST PUBLISHED A BRAND NEW COPY OF THE PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION IN ARABIC
- 25:00 IN EGYPT AND SYRIA AND ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS
- 25:02 AND YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THESE THINGS OCCURRING AND THEY'RE SPILLING OVER INTO EUROPE NOW
- 25:08 AND THEY'RE SPILLING OVER INTO AMERICA.
- 25:10 I'LL BET OUR VIEWERS WOULD PROBABLY SURPRISED TO LEARN
- 25:13 THERE'S BEEN 7 OR 8 RIOTS SINCE 9-11 IN NORTH AMERICA ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES OVER ISRAEL.
- 25:18 OH SURE, TOMMY IS THIS ALL TAKING US INTO THE TRIBULATION NOW.
- 25:22 I THINK IT IS.
- 25:23 YOU'VE GOT THE PROPHECY IN ZECHARIAH
- 25:27 AND I THINK THIS IS A PROPHECY THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR IN THE TRIBULATION AND IT SAYS
- 25:46 CHUCK MISSLER, A FRIEND OF OURS SAYS, YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A GLOBAL HERNIA
- 25:49 TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE ARAB-ISRAELI CONFLICT.
- 25:53 THAT SOUNDS LIKE CHUCK MISSLER.
- 25:54 EXACTLY, THAT OCCURS.
- 25:56 THE POINT IS THAT WE'RE SEEING THIS ALREADY BEING PREPARED,
- 26:01 THE STAGE IS BEING SET AND I THINK WHEN THE RAPTURE OCCURS,
- 26:04 AMERICA UNFORTUNATELY IS GOING TO JOIN EUROPE AND THE REST OF THESE PEOPLE
- 26:10 BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE LOST OUR EVANGELICAL BIBLICAL INFLUENCE.
- 26:14 THAT'LL BE IT.
- 26:15 TOMMY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU BACK NEXT WEEK.
- 26:17 I'M SORRY THE TIME FLIES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN.
- 26:19 THANKS FOR SHARING AND WE'LL PICK IT UP AGAIN NEXT WEEK ON THIS POINT.
- 26:25 HE'S A WONDERFUL SCHOLAR, AUTHOR OF MANY BOOKS, A SEMINARY DOCTORATE AND SO ON.
- 26:31 I DON'T HAVE HIS BIOGRAPHY IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I THINK YOU CAN HEAR HIS WISDOM.
- 26:35 THANKS FOR SHARING, I APPRECIATE IT.
- 26:38 AND FOLKS OUT THERE, WHATEVER THEY SAY,
- 26:41 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.
Episodes in this series
- Academic Terrorism with Joan Peters, Part 1
- Academic Terrorism with Joan Peters, Part 2
- Guest: Benny Elon (Knesset member)
- The March
- Counter Terrorism
- Biblical Heartland
- The Hill of Evil Council with Tom McCall
- Trials and Tribulations with Tom McCall
- Hated of All Nations with Tommy Ice
- Truth be Told with Tommy Ice
- Israel: Who Owns the Land?
- Israel and Prophecy with Tommy Ice


