Caption transcript for Age of Terror Continued: “Counter Terrorism” (5/12)

• 00:30 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
• 00:32 WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS UPCOMING WITHDRAWAL FROM SETTLEMENTS,
• 00:36 SETTLEMENTS IN GAZA AND THEN UP NORTH IN THE NORTHERN SAMARIA
• 00:42 OR THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE WEST BANK.
• 00:45 A LOT OF SETTLEMENTS SURROUND GAZA DOWN ON THE SOUTHERN COAST
• 00:49 ON THE BORDER WITH EGYPT, THERE ARE 8500 SETTLERS.
• 00:52 UP NORTH IT'S ABOUT 400 IN 4 DIFFERENT SETTLEMENTS.
• 00:57 YOU KNOW, WE GIVE BOTH SIDES ON THIS PROGRAM.
• 01:01 ISRAEL IS A DEMOCRACY JUST LIKE THE UNITED STATES.
• 01:04 THEY HAVE LEFT WING AND RIGHT WING SPEAKERS ON A SUBJECT
• 01:08 AND THEY ALL HAVE A POINT OF VIEW, I'LL SAY THAT.
• 01:10 WHEN WE TOOK OUR CAMERAS TO WASHINGTON D.C. AND STOOD IN FRONT OF THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL,
• 01:14 WE WANTED TO DO A MAN ON THE STREET PROGRAM,
• 01:19 TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT CONDITIONS HERE OR WHATEVER.
• 01:21 I TELL YOU, WE HAD TO GO OUT AND BEG THEM TO COME ON CAMERA.
• 01:25 WE STOOD AROUND FOR 2 HOURS; WE MUST HAVE GOTTEN 8 OR 10 PEOPLE.
• 01:30 YOU TRY THAT ON A JERUSALEM STREET, YOU NEARLY NEED POLICE TO HOLD BACK THE LINES.
• 01:35 EVERYBODY'S GOT AN OPINION AND WANTS TO EXPRESS IT.
• 01:38 BUT, IN OUR LAST 2 PROGRAMS WE VIEWED THE RIGHT SIDE, THE SIDE THAT IS AGAINST THE WITHDRAWAL.
• 01:47 THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE AN INCH OF LAND TO THE ARABS,
• 01:51 THE SO-CALLED PALESTINIANS AND THEY WERE OUTSPOKEN ABOUT THAT.
• 01:57 ON THIS PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THE LEFT WING.
• 01:59 OUR FIRST GUEST, DR. YOSSI BEILIN IS A FAMOUS LEFT-WINGER.
• 02:06 HE'S THE FATHER OF THE OSLO PEACE PROCESS STARTED IN '93 GONE DEFUNCT 7-8 YEARS LATER.
• 02:14 BUT, HE STILL HOLDS TO THE SAME THEORY.
• 02:17 DR. BEILIN SAYS GIVE THEM MORE LAND, TAKE OUT MORE SETTLEMENTS
• 02:21 AND HE HASN'T CHANGED HIS TUNE AT ALL.
• 02:26 WE ASKED HIM, YES FINE, BUT WILL THIS DISENGAGEMENT ACTUALLY WORK?
• 02:32 THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT WILL TAKE PLACE
• 02:34 AND I BELIEVE THAT PRIME MINISTER SHARON
• 02:38 IS VERY MUCH COMMITTED TO THE WITHDRAWAL FROM GAZA.
• 02:43 WHATEVER HIS INTENTION IS AND WHAT MOTIVATION IS,
• 02:47 STILL IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO WITHDRAW
• 02:49 AND I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BECOME A MATTER OF FACT.
• 02:53 ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE WITHDRAWAL, IT DEPENDS VERY MUCH ON THE DAY AFTER.
• 02:58 WHAT IS THE INTENTION TO DO AFTER THE WITHDRAWAL.
• 03:01 IF THE WITHDRAWAL FROM GAZA WILL BE GAZA FIRST, GAZA LAST,
• 03:06 IT MIGHT BECOME A DISASTER, GOD FORBID.
• 03:10 BECAUSE THE SITUATION THEM MIGHT BE TO PUT GAZA IN LIKE A PRISON
• 03:15 WHEREBY THE PALESTINIANS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO WORK IN ISRAEL,
• 03:19 TO CROSS ISRAEL IN ORDER TO GET TO THE WEST BANK, WHICH IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THEIR TERRITORIES,
• 03:25 THAT UNEMPLOYMENT WILL REMAIN LOW AND EVEN WILL BECOME LOWER.
• 03:30 THE POVERTY LINE WILL BE BIGGER AND EVENTUALLY
• 03:34 THE SITUATION THERE WILL BE MORE FRUSTRATING THAN TODAY.
• 03:38 IF ON THE OTHER HAND, ONE CREATES A POLITICAL HORIZON
• 03:43 AND TALKS ABOUT THE CONTINUATION OF THE PROCESS
• 03:46 IN ORDER TO GET TO THE PERMANENT SOLUTION AFTER SO MANY YEAR,
• 03:50 WE PROMISED THE PALESTINIANS A PERMANENT SOLUTION IN 5 YEARS WHEN IT WAS 93, 94
• 03:55 AND WE ARE NOW IN 2005 AND THERE IS NO HORIZON WHATSOEVER FOR A PERMANENT SOLUTION,
• 04:00 BUT IF BOTH SIDES WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS A PERMANENT SOLUTION THROUGH THE FAMOUS ROADMAP
• 04:06 OR THROUGH ANOTHER VEHICLE, THEN I BELIEVE THAT THE WITHDRAWAL FROM GAZA
• 04:12 MIGHT BE A VERY IMPORTANT PRECEDENT FOR THE WEST BANK.
• 04:15 DR. BEILIN IS AFTER WHAT HE CALLS A PERMANENT SOLUTION, REAL PEACE
• 04:20 AND OF COURSE, HE'S VERY LENIENT TOWARDS GIVING AWAY LAND.
• 04:27 HE REMINDS ME IN A WAY OF WHEN WE INTERVIEWED FORMER PRIME MINISTER SHIMON PERES
• 04:33 WHO TAKES ABOUT THE SAME LINE, WILLING TO TRUST THE OTHER SIDE.
• 04:38 HOW, WE ASKED DR. BEILIN, CAN YOU REALLY ACHIEVE A REAL AND LASTING PEACE?
• 04:45 I THINK THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE WITHDRAWAL FROM GAZA
• 04:49 IS TO SIT TOGETHER, THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, THE PALESTINIAN GOVERNMENT
• 04:54 AND TO TALK ABOUT THE WAY TO CONTINUE.
• 04:57 THERE MIGHT BE A KIND OF A COLLISION COURSE
• 05:00 IF MR. SHARON SAYS I WANT ONLY ANOTHER INTERIM AGREEMENT
• 05:05 AND MAHMOUD ABBAS IS SAYING I NEED ONLY A PERMANENT SOLUTION.
• 05:08 I'M NOT SURE WHETHER WE HAVE A REFEREE IN OUR CAMP.
• 05:13 I'M NOT SURE WHETHER PRESIDENT BUSH IS READY TO PLAY THIS ROLE.
• 05:18 I'M NOT SURE WHETHER EUROPE OR ANY OTHER PLAYER IS THERE TO HELP US IN SOLVING OUR PROBLEM.
• 05:26 BUT, I AM SURE THAT THERE IS A SOLUTION.
• 05:28 I AM SURE THAT IF BOTH SIDES ARE SERIOUS, THEY CAN FIND A PERMANENT AGREEMENT
• 05:35 AND I THINK IT IS AROUND THE CORNER.
• 05:38 SO THE QUESTION FOR ME IS NOT WHETHER THERE IS A READINESS ON BOTH PARTIES
• 05:44 TO GET TOWARDS A PERMANENT SOLUTION EITHER DIRECTLY
• 05:49 AND THEN IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING LIKE THE GENEVA INITIATIVE,
• 05:52 WHICH WE INITIATED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO
• 05:55 OR THROUGH A VERY SHORT INTERIM AGREEMENT,
• 05:59 WHICH WILL HAVE A DEADLINE AND WHICH WILL ALSO REFER TO THE GRAND DESIGN
• 06:07 OR THE GUIDELINES FOR THE PERMANENT SOLUTION.
• 06:10 AS FAR AS THE PALESTINIANS ARE CONCERNED, JERUSALEM REMAINS AN IMPORTANT BARGAINING CHIP.
• 06:16 IN ORDER FOR ANY KIND OF PERMANENT PEACE TO HAPPEN,
• 06:19 THEY DEMAND THAT THIS CITY BE THEIR CAPITAL.
• 06:22 WE GAVE UP JERUSALEM A LONG TIME AGO.
• 06:25 IF YOU WANT TO GO TO EAST JERUSALEM TO SOME OF THE REFUGEE CAMPS THERE,
• 06:31 YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED, ALTHOUGH IT IS UNDER THE ISRAELI SOVEREIGNTY.
• 06:37 NO ISRAELI GOES THERE. NO TOURIST IS GOING THERE.
• 06:41 THE MUNICIPAL BUREAUCRACY DOESN'T EVEN DARE TO GO THERE AND COLLECT TAXES,
• 06:49 MUNICIPAL TAXES OR TO COLLECT THEIR GARBAGE.
• 06:52 I MEAN, THIS IS THEORETICALLY PART OF UNITED JERUSALEM UNDER THE ISRAELI SOVEREIGNTY FOREVER
• 06:59 WHILE IN REALITY IT HAS NEVER BEEN PART OF ISRAEL
• 07:04 AND I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT JERUSALEM,
• 07:08 WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THERE ARE 220,000 PALESTINIANS,
• 07:13 WHO DO NOT WANT TO BE ISRAELI CITIZENS
• 07:16 AND WHO ARE PART OF THIS THREAT ON THE FUTURE OF THE JEWISH STATE.
• 07:22 NOW, BY GIVING UP ON ALL THE EASTERN NEIGHBORHOODS OF JERUSALEM
• 07:27 WE CAN HAVE A BIG JERUSALEM, WHICH HAS A JEWISH MAJORITY FOREVER.
• 07:35 IF I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THE GENEVA INITIATIVE,
• 07:38 WHICH IS AN INITIATIVE AGREED BY BOTH MAINSTREAMS, PALESTINIANS AND ISRAELIS,
• 07:46 WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT THE WAILING WALL AS PART OF THE ISRAELI SOVEREIGNTY,
• 07:52 WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT THE JEWISH QUARTER IN THE OLD CITY AS PART OF THE JEWISH SOVEREIGNTY,
• 07:57 WHILE THE TEMPLE MOUNT OR WHAT THEY CALL HARAM AL-SHARIF
• 08:02 WILL BE UNDER PALESTINIAN SOVEREIGNTY,
• 08:04 BUT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE THE FULL RIGHT TO VISIT EACH SACRED PLACE
• 08:11 AND NOBODY WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DIG IN THESE PLACES IN ORDER NOT TO ENDANGER THEM.
• 08:16 ON A RECENT PROGRAM WE TALKED TO SETTLERS WHO ARE ADAMANT
• 08:20 THAT THE LAND BELONGED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 08:22 THERE IS A BIBLICAL REASON THAT THEY CLAIM
• 08:24 TO MAINTAIN POSSESSION OF THE LAND GIVEN TO THEM BY GOD.
• 08:28 THIS IS WHERE OUR KINGS RULED.
• 08:33 THIS IS WHERE OUR PROPHETS PROPHESIED
• 08:35 AND THIS IS WHERE WE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD AND RECREATE JEWISH LIFE.
• 08:41 WHAT I'M SAYING TO THESE PEOPLE
• 08:42 THAT WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME IS MY CHILDREN
• 08:45 AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IF THEY GOT SOME MESSAGE FROM GOD,
• 08:48 IT'S NICE, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CAN ENFORCE ON ALL OF US A SITUATION
• 08:54 OF AN ONGOING WAR HERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE BELIEVERS,
• 09:01 I'M ALSO A BELIEVER, I AM A GREAT BELIEVER IN THE FUTURE OF ISRAEL,
• 09:05 I AM A GREAT BELIEVER IN THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 09:07 I'M A GREAT BELIEVER IN PEACE AND I BELIEVE AS A ZIONIST
• 09:11 THAT OUR MISSION IS TO LIVE HERE AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE MIDDLE EAST WITH OUR NEIGHBORS
• 09:17 RATHER THAN TO FIGHT WITH THEM FOREVER.
• 09:20 I MEAN, THEY ARE ALWAYS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD,
• 09:23 PEOPLE WHO GOT SOME MESSAGES FROM ANY GODS.
• 09:26 IF THEY'RE BECOMING A MAJORITY, TOUGH LUCK!
• 09:31 BUT THANK HEAVEN THEY ARE NOT A MAJORITY, THEY ARE A MINORITY
• 09:34 AND THEY HAVE TO OBEY TO THE DECISIONS OF THE MAJORITY
• 09:38 AND THE MAJORITY IN ISRAEL WANTS TO LIVE AND IS NOT READY TO SACRIFICE THE NEXT GENERATION
• 09:45 BECAUSE OF VERY IMPORTANT GRAVES OF OUR ANCESTORS.
• 09:52 ONE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN EXPERT IN THE BIBLE, IN THE KORAN, IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
• 09:59 OR WHATEVER, IN ORDER TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.
• 10:03 WE ARE 2 PEOPLES, PALESTINIANS AND ISRAELIS.
• 10:06 MOST OF US ARE NORMAL PEOPLE.
• 10:09 WE WANT TO RAISE OUR KIDS AND TO LIVE IN PEACE.
• 10:12 WE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
• 10:14 THE QUESTION IS ONLY WHETHER WE ARE COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND
• 10:19 THAT IF WE DON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM, WE ARE DOOMED.
• 10:23 WELL, WE ARE GIVING THE OTHER SIDE ON OUR PROGRAMS ABOUT WITHDRAWAL FROM THE SETTLEMENTS.
• 10:29 THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE, THE SIDE THAT THINKS THEY OUGHT TO WITHDRAW,
• 10:33 THEY OUGHT TO GIVE UP THE LAND TO THE PALESTINIANS TO MAKE PEACE.
• 10:36 THE SO-CALLED LAND FOR PEACE AND DR. BEILIN IS ALMOST AN EXTREMIST ON THIS.
• 10:43 HE SAYS, THE MORE LAND YOU GIVE AWAY, THE MORE PEACE YOU GET.
• 10:47 BUT, ISRAEL SEEMS TO EXPERIENCE TERRORISM WHETHER IT GIVES UP LAND OR NOT
• 10:52 AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE RUB.
• 10:54 I'VE ALWAYS SAID OR OF THE LEVITT LETTER HAS SAID,
• 10:56 THE MAGIC SOLUTION TO PEACE IN WHAT THE NEWSCASTERS CALL THE "MIDDLE EAST",
• 11:02 THE NORMAL PEOPLE CALL "ISRAEL",
• 11:04 THE SOLUTION IS TOMORROW MORNING WHEN THE PALESTINIANS WAKE UP,
• 11:09 THEY DO NOT GO OUT AND TRY TO KILL AN ISRAELI.
• 11:12 AND THEN THE SAME THING THE NEXT MORNING AND THE SAME THING THE MORNING AFTER THAT.
• 11:15 THERE WILL BE PEACE 1000 YEARS.
• 11:16 I'VE SAID IT AND SAID IT.
• 11:18 IF THERE'S ONE PROBLEM IN ISRAEL, IT'S THE MURDERS, THE MURDERS, THE MURDERS.
• 11:22 THEY'VE GOT TO STOP THE TERRORISM AND THEN PEACE CAN HAPPEN.
• 11:26 ISRAELIS WANT PEACE, THAT'S ALL THEY WANT.
• 11:30 WE GOT VERY INTERESTED IN THIS ANGLE AND WE DUG OUT A TERRORISM EXPERT,
• 11:36 AN ISRAELI TERRORISM EXPERT WHO CERTAINLY ,OF COURSE, HAS A LOT TO DO OVER THERE
• 11:41 AND WE'LL BE BACK WITH HIM RIGHT AFTER THIS.
• 11:44 THEY BEGAN TO USE WOMEN IN 2002, 2003
• 11:49 BECAUSE THE YOUNG MAN OF 16-25-28 COULD NOT PENETRATE ISRAEL ANYMORE.
• 11:59 ASK FOR OUR FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER
• 12:03 AND OUR CATALOG WITH VIDEOS, BOOKS AND MUSIC.
• 12:07 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, THE INSTITUTE OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES INCLUDES
• 12:11 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL IN TESTS.
• 12:16 DID YOU KNOW THAT ZOLA TAKES TOURS TO ISRAEL, GREECE
• 12:19 AND THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE THEME PARK IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.
• 12:23 PLEASE CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
• 12:29 ♪ ♪
• 13:06 WELL, MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, THE TOURS,
• 13:09 WE'VE NEVER IN 80 TOURS SEEN EVEN THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF ANY UNREST.
• 13:14 WE DON'T GO IN THE PLACES WHERE TERRORISM TENDS TO HAPPEN.
• 13:17 FORTUNATELY, THE WAY GOD ARRANGED THINGS,
• 13:19 THERE REALLY ARE NO BIBLICAL SITES IN THE WEST BANK.
• 13:21 IT'S VERY ANCIENT LAND.
• 13:23 IF THERE'S A SITE IT'S SORT WHAT THEY CALL A TRADITIONAL SITE.
• 13:27 WE REMEMBER JESUS TALKING WITH THE SAMARITAN WOMAN AT THIS PLACE OR ON THAT HILL OR SO ON.
• 13:32 BUT, WE GO TO GALILEE, JERUSALEM, MASADA, THE DEAD SEA,
• 13:37 PLACES FAR OUT AWAY FROM-- IT'S SORT OF LIKE IN AMERICA.
• 13:41 IF YOU WERE AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER THE DAY IT WAS BOMBED,
• 13:44 YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN TERRORISM AND BY THE WAY,
• 13:47 FAR MORE TERRORISM THAN ISRAEL'S HAD IN ITS ENTIRE HISTORY.
• 13:50 IF YOU'D BEEN IN OKLAHOMA CITY ON THAT FATEFUL DAY YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN A VICTIM OF TERRORISM,
• 13:56 AT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES
• 13:58 YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECTLY SAFE ON THOSE DAYS AND THAT'S THE THEORY.
• 14:02 PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO GO ON THE TOUR, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY SILLY.
• 14:05 I'LL MAKE THE STATEMENT ONE MORE TIME.
• 14:06 NO TOURIST TRAVELING WITH A TOUR GROUP HAS EVER BEEN INJURED IN ANY WAY IN ISRAEL.
• 14:13 IT'S NEVER HAPPENED.
• 14:15 I CAN'T SAY THE SAME FOR EGYPT AND NOBODY TOURS THE OTHER ARAB COUNTRIES, I SUPPOSE.
• 14:20 BUT, BELIEVE ME OUR TOURS ARE SAFE.
• 14:22 I SLEEP BETTER THERE THAN I DO AT HOME.
• 14:25 OUR NEXT TOUR WILL BE IN NOVEMBER.
• 14:26 IT'S THE BEST ONE. I'LL LEAD IT MYSELF.
• 14:28 IT'S BEST BECAUSE WE OFFER A GREEK CRUISE WITH IT AND PETRA
• 14:31 AND YOU TAKE THE WHOLE THING AND IT'S A LOT OF FUN.
• 14:36 GO IN THIS LIFETIME, SEE THE PROMISE LAND
• 14:38 BEFORE YOU GO THERE AT GOVERNMENT EXPENSE IN THE KINGDOM.
• 14:42 TERRORISM, IT'S THE ISSUE OF THE DAY.
• 14:45 OUR SERIES CALLED "AGE OR TERROR..CONTINUED".
• 14:49 I'M AFRAID IT WILL JUST CONTINUE AND CONTINUE.
• 14:51 NOBODY'S FOUND A SOLUTION TO THIS REALLY.
• 14:54 WE'RE SUFFERING IT IN IRAQ EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ARMED TROOPS ON THE GROUND.
• 14:58 WE SUFFER TERRORISM ALL THE TIME
• 15:01 AND WE ENCOUNTERED AN ISRAELI EXPERT ON THE SUBJECT.
• 15:05 IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE FOLKS IN WASHINGTON.
• 15:07 LISTEN TO THIS.
• 15:09 DR. ELI KARMON IS WITH THE INSTITUTE OF COUNTER TERRORISM AT HERZLIA ISRAEL,
• 15:14 A RESEARCH INSTITUTE AND THINK TANK
• 15:17 DEDICATED TO DEVELOPING INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM.
• 15:22 WE ASKED DR. KARMON, WHO'S THE INITIATOR OF A TYPICAL PALESTINIAN SUICIDE BOMBING,
• 15:27 THE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION OR THE VOLUNTEER?
• 15:31 THE TWO OF THEM.
• 15:32 AT THE BEGINNING IT WAS MAINLY THE ORGANIZATION,
• 15:35 WHICH RECRUITED PEOPLE THAT SEEMED SUITABLE FOR THIS KIND OF OPERATIONS,
• 15:43 BUT AS THERE A GROWING INTEREST AND SUCCESS FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW,
• 15:48 OF SUICIDE BOMBINGS MANY PEOPLE VOLUNTEERED.
• 15:51 BUT, THE PROBLEM WAS NOT THE VOLUNTEERS, THE PROBLEM WAS TO FIND THE EXPLOSIVE SPECIALIST,
• 15:57 THOSE WHO TRAINED THEM, PREPARED THEM AND IF YOU NEUTRALIZED THEM,
• 16:01 EITHER ARREST OR KILL THEM, SO THEY HAVE PROBLEMS.
• 16:04 SO, MANY TIMES YOU SEE A LOWER SUCCESS OF SUCH ATTACKS
• 16:10 BECAUSE THE OPERATIONAL LEVEL WAS NEUTRALIZED AND THIS WAS, BY THE WAY,
• 16:16 A RESULT OF THE LAST 2 YEARS AFTER THE DEFENSIVE SHIELD OPERATION.
• 16:21 ON THE ONE HAND, THE FENCE WAS VERY IMPORTANT,
• 16:25 BUT, ALSO THE HUGE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY OF THE SECURITY AND MILITARY FORCES TO STOP THEM.
• 16:32 SO TODAY WE HAVE A RATE OF 90% SUCCESS IN FOILING THESE ATTACKS.
• 16:39 LAST YEAR FOR EXAMPLE, 2004, WE HAD 352 FOILED ATTEMPTS.
• 16:46 30 OF THEM WERE FOILED WHEN THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY TO DO THE ATTACK.
• 16:51 THE OTHERS WERE ARRESTED AT HOME.
• 16:53 THEY BEGAN TO USE WOMEN IN 2002, 2003
• 16:57 BECAUSE THE YOUNG MAN OF 16-25-28 COULD NOT PENETRATE ISRAEL ANYMORE.
• 17:05 THEY WERE STOPPED AT THE CHECK POINTS.
• 17:09 ALSO THEY USE SOME MAID PEOPLE WITH CHILDREN, WHICH WAS ALSO VERY--
• 17:15 AND THIS WAS AN ADAPTATION TO THE OPERATIONAL DIFFICULTIES.
• 17:19 IT IS NOT BECAUSE WOMEN WANTED TO BE, ALL OF A SUDDEN, PART OF THE STRUGGLE
• 17:25 OR THE YOUNG BOYS, WHICH KNOW NOTHING OF--
• 17:29 THEY UNDERSTAND BUT THEY WERE MANIPULATED BY THE LEADERSHIP.
• 17:34 WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT THE PAYOFFS FOR THESE SUICIDE BOMBERS.
• 17:38 THEY DON'T DO THIS FOR NOTHING.
• 17:40 IF A PALESTINIAN FAMILY HAS 10 OR 12 CHILDREN
• 17:43 AND THEY CAN CONVINCE SOME YOUNGSTER TO GO OUT AND BLOW HIMSELF UP,
• 17:48 WELL, BACK IN THE GREAT DAYS OF SADDAM HUSSEIN, THEY USED TO GET $25,000.
• 17:53 THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT EARN MONEY IN HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR,
• 17:57 GETTING $25,000 IN ONE BIG PAYMENT AND THEY'RE MISSING ONLY ONE CHILD
• 18:02 AND SOME FAMILIES LOSE A CHILD IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT, ETC. SO THEY MAKE THAT BARGAIN.
• 18:07 AND NOW THAT SADDAM IS NOT PAYING OFF, WELL,
• 18:11 IT'S OUR FRIEND SAUDI ARABIA THAT'S PAYING,
• 18:14 THE VERY PEOPLE THAT PRESIDENT HOLDS HANDS WITH ARE HOLDING US HOSTAGE.
• 18:21 YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON THE DRUG CALLED OIL, PETROLEUM.
• 18:26 PEOPLE ARE DIGGING FOR IT IN ISRAEL DESPERATELY, ALTHOUGH IN ISRAEL,
• 18:29 WHAT'S MEANT BY "ASHER WILL PUT HIS FOOT IN OIL", IT'S ABOUT OLIVE OIL.
• 18:36 ASHER TERRITORY THERE IN WESTERN SAMARIA WAS FULL OF OLIVE GROVES
• 18:42 AND THEY DID SUPPLY OIL FOR THE LAMP AT THE TEMPLE AND THE TABERNACLES.
• 18:47 BUT, PETROLEUM IS ANOTHER MATTER.
• 18:51 IT RUNS OUR ECONOMY, SO WE PRETEND.
• 18:55 THAT'S THE DRUG WE'RE ON AND WE PRETEND TO LOVE OUR PUSHER.
• 18:58 DRUG ADDICTS ALWAYS DO THAT.
• 19:01 THEY FORGIVE THE PUSHER JUST ANYTHING.
• 19:03 THE PROBLEM IS OUR PUSHER IS ALSO PUSHING WAHABISM,
• 19:06 THE RADICAL BRAND OF ISLAM THAT IS CREATING THE TERRORISM
• 19:10 THAT PREACHES AGAINST AMERICA AND ISRAEL, AGAINST CHRISTIANS AND JEWS.
• 19:15 WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THEIR MONEY AND THEIR NUMBERS,
• 19:20 THE ISLAMISTS, COULD FINALLY DEFEAT US.
• 19:24 THEY EXPORT TERROR ALONG WITH THE OIL AND WITH THAT RELIGION THAT THEY TEACH.
• 19:32 THIS IS A KIND OF SCHIZOPHRENIC BEHAVIOR OF THE SAUDI LEADERSHIP.
• 19:38 ON THE ONE HAND, THEY WANTED AND THEY NEEDED THE SUPPORT,
• 19:42 THE STRATEGIC SUPPORT OF THE UNITED STATES,
• 19:44 FIRST OF ALL AGAINST THE TIME THE SOCIALIST ARAB COUNTRIES
• 19:48 LIKE SYRIA AND IRAQ AND EVEN NASSER'S EGYPT OR LIBYA.
• 19:55 ON THE OTHER HAND AGAINST THE IRANIAN PREDOMINANCE, STRATEGIC PREDOMINANCE IN THE GULF.
• 20:00 BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND IDEOLOGICALLY THEY WERE VERY FUNDAMENTALIST
• 20:06 AND THEY WANTED THE SPREAD OF ISLAM EVERYWHERE BUT THE KIND OF
• 20:12 VERY, WHAT IS CALLED WAHABID ISLAM, WHICH IS VERY CONSERVATIVE AND VERY AGGRESSIVE
• 20:20 AGAINST OTHER RELIGIONS LIKE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS.
• 20:25 SO, WHAT THEY DID WITH THE HELP OF THE MONEY THEY ACHIEVED SINCE THE GREAT EMBARGO IN 1972,
• 20:32 THE OIL CRISIS, THEY INVESTED IN SPREADING ISLAM THROUGH AMIRS,
• 20:36 THROUGH MOSQUE CULTURAL CENTERS, IMAMS WHICH WERE PAID TO GO TO SOUTH AMERICA OR SOUTH OF ASIA
• 20:44 TO SPREAD THIS KIND OF RADICAL ISLAM AND IRONICALLY THEIR MORE RADICAL ISLAMISTS,
• 20:52 TOOK CONTROL OF THIS CENTERS AND MOSQUES A PROPAGATED MORE RADICAL ISLAM.
• 21:00 THE FACT IS THAT ALTHOUGH THE BIN LADEN ATTACKED AT LEAST VERBALLY, SAUDI ARABIA,
• 21:08 AND CONSIDER ITS OIL REGIME AS THE MAIN TARGET,
• 21:12 THE SAUDIS SUPPORT IT FINANCIALLY AND DIPLOMATICALLY TALIBAN UNTIL THE LAST MOMENT.
• 21:18 EVEN AFTER THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR, THEY STILL RECOGNIZED DIPLOMATIC WITH THE TALIBAN.
• 21:22 THERE ARE ONLY 3 COUNTRIES THAT DID IT, SAUDI ARABIA IS ONE OF THESE.
• 21:27 SO THIS IS WHAT I CALL THE SCHIZOPHRENIC PHENOMENON.
• 21:31 THE FACT THAT SAUDI ARABIA HAS FINANCIALLY ASSISTED BIN LADEN IS HARDLY BREAKING NEWS,
• 21:37 YET WE CONTINUE TO SHAKE THE HANDS OF SAUDI DIPLOMATS
• 21:40 AND SMILE AS THOUGH WE'RE THE BEST OF FRIENDS.
• 21:43 IT'S CLEARLY BECAUSE OF THE VERY BIG STRATEGIC AND ECONOMIC INTEREST.
• 21:48 THE STABILITY OF THIS REGIME IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PRICES OF OIL,
• 21:54 BUT ALSO IF THE RADICALS TAKE CONTROL OF IT, THEN THE SITUATION WILL BE WORSE.
• 22:00 SO THIS IS, I THINK, THE MAIN--
• 22:01 YOU HAVE PERHAPS A SIMILAR SITUATION IF EVEN NOT WORSE IN PAKISTAN,
• 22:07 WHICH WAS THE HOTBED OF THE TALIBAN AND WHICH FOR MANY YEARS SUPPORTED TALIBAN
• 22:13 AND IN A WAY EVEN AL QAEDA, IF YOU WANT.
• 22:18 SO, THESE ARE THE PROBLEMS OF THE INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS AND THE UNITED STATES AS A BIG POWER
• 22:23 MUST ALSO MANEUVER IN ALL THIS COMPLICATED WEALTH.
• 22:29 SOMETIMES PERHAPS IT WOULD BE NECESSARY AND THE FACT IS THE DAYS ARE CHANGED TODAY
• 22:34 AND BETTER LATER THAN NEVER.
• 22:38 ♪ GOD WILL HONOR THOSE ♪ HE HAS CHOSEN,
• 22:52 ♪ ♪
• 23:16 ♪ A COMING KINGDOM, ♪ A COMING KING,
• 23:24 ♪ A TIME OF MERCY, ♪ A TIME TO SING.
• 23:33 ♪ A CHOSEN PEOPLE, ♪ A CHOSEN SHORE,
• 23:43 ♪ TO LIVE A DESTINY, ♪ TO KNOW THE LORD.
• 23:57 ♪ ♪
• 24:22 ONE PROBLEM IS LIFE IN THIS 21ST CENTURY, AT LEAST IN THIS COUNTRY,
• 24:29 I SUPPOSE ELSEWHERE, TOO, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THINGS THAT WE KNOW AREN'T TRUE.
• 24:34 YOU KNOW, THE LORD'S, ONE OF HIS MOST FAMOUS QUOTES IS JOHN 8:32
• 24:39 AND YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.
• 24:44 THAT'S SO VERY DEEP.
• 24:45 IT'S LITTLE FALSEHOODS THAT KIND OF ENSLAVE US
• 24:49 AND KEEP US FROM BEING FREE AND I CAN GIVE LISTS OF THEM.
• 24:53 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA,
• 24:55 THE IDEA OF A FRIENDLY SAUDI ARABIA, OUR ALLY.
• 24:58 THAT'S NOT TRUE.
• 25:00 THE ADVERTISEMENTS THE SAUDIS BOUGHT, THEY SPENT BIG MONEY IN WASHINGTON AND ON NATIONAL TV
• 25:05 HAVING A SIT AROUND IN THEIR ROBES AND SAYING, "PARTNERS IN PEACE WITH US".
• 25:11 THAT'S NOT TRUE.
• 25:13 THE IDEA OF MODERATE MUSLIMS ANY PLACE IN LEAGUE WITH US TO HELP PUT DOWN THE RADICAL MUSLIMS,
• 25:20 THAT'S NOT TRUE. I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT.
• 25:22 I DON'T CONDEMN A BILLION PEOPLE, BUT NEITHER DO I HEAR MODERATE VOICES.
• 25:28 I CHALLENGED SOME STUDENTS AND FACULTY AT UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS AT PITTSBURGH
• 25:35 TO TELL ME ABOUT ANY ONE APOLOGY FOR THE WORLD TRADE CENTER
• 25:39 AND A YOUNG GAL STOOD UP IN AN ARAB HEADDRESS AND SAID, WELL, THERE'S BEEN MANY APOLOGIES.
• 25:44 I SAID, WELL, IF YOU'LL SEND ME JUST ONE EMAIL.
• 25:47 I GAVE HER MY EMAIL ADDRESS OUT LOUD AND I'LL RUN IT ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE LEVITT LETTER.
• 25:52 NEVER HEARD FROM HER.
• 25:54 WAR ON TERROR, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
• 25:56 WE'RE NOT MAKING A WAR ON TERROR.
• 25:58 WE'VE RAIDED AFGHANISTAN, WE'RE WORKING ON IRAQ.
• 26:01 BUT, THAT'S NOT WHERE THE TERROR IS COMING FROM.
• 26:03 TERROR COMES FROM SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN AND SYRIA AND LIBYA AND THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS IT,
• 26:10 THAT WE'RE CONTROLLING IRAN AND ITS NUCLEAR PROGRESS, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
• 26:14 THAT THERE ARE MUSLIMS ASSIMILATED AS EVERYDAY NORMAL AMERICANS
• 26:19 FIGHTING FOR OUR FLAG AND SUPPORTING OUR GOVERNMENT, I HAVE TROUBLE WITH IT.
• 26:24 DO WE HAVE HOMELAND SECURITY?
• 26:27 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE.
• 26:29 I DON'T FEEL SECURE AT AIRPORTS OR WELL YOU SAW THE SECURITY WHEN A LITTLE PIPER CUB
• 26:33 OR WHATEVER IT WAS FLEW OVER WASHINGTON AND THE BEST OF OUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN
• 26:37 BEAT THEIR GUARDS OUT THE DOORS.
• 26:41 THE MIDDLE EAST PROCESS IS NOT TRUE.
• 26:43 THERE'S NO PEACE PROCESS OVER THERE OR ANYTHING LIKE IT.
• 26:46 JESUS SAID, MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE.
• 26:50 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.