Caption transcript for Age of Terror Continued: “Counter Terrorism” (5/12)

• 00:29 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
• 00:30 WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS UPCOMING WITHDRAWAL FROM SETTLEMENTS,
• 00:35 SETTLEMENTS IN GAZA AND THEN UP >>NORTH IN THE NORTHERN SAMARIA
• 00:41 OR THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE WEST BANK.
• 00:43 A LOT OF SETTLEMENTS SURROUND >>GAZA DOWN ON THE SOUTHERN COAST
• 00:48 ON THE BORDER WITH EGYPT, THERE ARE 8500 SETTLERS.
• 00:51 UP NORTH IT'S ABOUT 400 IN 4 DIFFERENT SETTLEMENTS.
• 00:56 YOU KNOW, WE GIVE BOTH SIDES ON >>THIS PROGRAM.
• 01:00 ISRAEL IS A DEMOCRACY JUST LIKE >>THE UNITED STATES.
• 01:03 THEY HAVE LEFT WING AND RIGHT WING SPEAKERS ON A SUBJECT
• 01:07 AND THEY ALL HAVE A POINT OF VIEW, I'LL SAY THAT.
• 01:08 WHEN WE TOOK OUR CAMERAS TO WASHINGTON D.C. AND STOOD IN >>FRONT OF THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL,
• 01:13 WE WANTED TO DO A MAN ON THE STREET PROGRAM,
• 01:17 TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT CONDITIONS >>HERE OR WHATEVER.
• 01:20 I TELL YOU, WE HAD TO GO OUT AND >>BEG THEM TO COME ON CAMERA.
• 01:24 WE STOOD AROUND FOR 2 HOURS; WE MUST HAVE GOTTEN 8 OR 10 PEOPLE.
• 01:28 YOU TRY THAT ON A JERUSALEM >>STREET, YOU NEARLY NEED POLICE >>TO HOLD BACK THE LINES.
• 01:34 EVERYBODY'S GOT AN OPINION AND >>WANTS TO EXPRESS IT.
• 01:36 BUT, IN OUR LAST 2 PROGRAMS WE VIEWED THE RIGHT SIDE, THE SIDE THAT IS AGAINST THE WITHDRAWAL.
• 01:46 THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE AN INCH >>OF LAND TO THE ARABS,
• 01:50 THE SO-CALLED PALESTINIANS AND THEY WERE OUTSPOKEN ABOUT THAT.
• 01:56 ON THIS PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO >>HEAR THE LEFT WING.
• 01:58 OUR FIRST GUEST, DR. YOSSI >>BEILIN IS A FAMOUS LEFT-WINGER.
• 02:04 HE'S THE FATHER OF THE OSLO PEACE PROCESS STARTED IN '93 GONE DEFUNCT 7-8 YEARS LATER.
• 02:13 BUT, HE STILL HOLDS TO THE SAME THEORY.
• 02:15 DR. BEILIN SAYS GIVE THEM MORE LAND, TAKE OUT MORE SETTLEMENTS
• 02:20 AND HE HASN'T CHANGED HIS TUNE >>AT ALL.
• 02:25 WE ASKED HIM, YES FINE, BUT WILL THIS DISENGAGEMENT ACTUALLY WORK?
• 02:31 THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT WILL TAKE PLACE
• 02:33 AND I BELIEVE THAT PRIME MINISTER SHARON
• 02:37 IS VERY MUCH COMMITTED TO THE WITHDRAWAL FROM GAZA.
• 02:42 WHATEVER HIS INTENTION IS AND WHAT MOTIVATION IS,
• 02:46 STILL IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR >>HIM TO WITHDRAW
• 02:48 AND I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BECOME A MATTER OF FACT.
• 02:51 ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE >>WITHDRAWAL, IT DEPENDS VERY MUCH >>ON THE DAY AFTER.
• 02:57 WHAT IS THE INTENTION TO DO AFTER THE WITHDRAWAL.
• 03:00 IF THE WITHDRAWAL FROM GAZA WILL >>BE GAZA FIRST, GAZA LAST,
• 03:05 IT MIGHT BECOME A DISASTER, GOD FORBID.
• 03:08 BECAUSE THE SITUATION THEM MIGHT BE TO PUT GAZA IN LIKE A PRISON
• 03:13 WHEREBY THE PALESTINIANS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO WORK IN ISRAEL,
• 03:17 TO CROSS ISRAEL IN ORDER TO GET TO THE WEST BANK, WHICH IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THEIR TERRITORIES,
• 03:24 THAT UNEMPLOYMENT WILL REMAIN >>LOW AND EVEN WILL BECOME LOWER.
• 03:29 THE POVERTY LINE WILL BE BIGGER >>AND EVENTUALLY
• 03:33 THE SITUATION THERE WILL BE MORE >>FRUSTRATING THAN TODAY.
• 03:37 IF ON THE OTHER HAND, ONE CREATES A POLITICAL HORIZON
• 03:42 AND TALKS ABOUT THE CONTINUATION >>OF THE PROCESS
• 03:44 IN ORDER TO GET TO THE PERMANENT >>SOLUTION AFTER SO MANY YEAR,
• 03:48 WE PROMISED THE PALESTINIANS A >>PERMANENT SOLUTION IN 5 YEARS WHEN IT WAS 93, 94
• 03:53 AND WE ARE NOW IN 2005 AND THERE IS NO HORIZON WHATSOEVER FOR A >>PERMANENT SOLUTION,
• 03:59 BUT IF BOTH SIDES WORK TOGETHER >>TOWARDS A PERMANENT SOLUTION THROUGH THE FAMOUS ROADMAP
• 04:05 OR THROUGH ANOTHER VEHICLE, THEN I BELIEVE THAT THE WITHDRAWAL FROM GAZA
• 04:10 MIGHT BE A VERY IMPORTANT PRECEDENT FOR THE WEST BANK.
• 04:14 DR. BEILIN IS AFTER WHAT HE CALLS A PERMANENT SOLUTION, REAL PEACE
• 04:19 AND OF COURSE, HE'S VERY LENIENT >>TOWARDS GIVING AWAY LAND.
• 04:26 HE REMINDS ME IN A WAY OF WHEN >>WE INTERVIEWED FORMER PRIME MINISTER SHIMON PERES
• 04:31 WHO TAKES ABOUT THE SAME LINE, WILLING TO TRUST THE OTHER SIDE.
• 04:36 HOW, WE ASKED DR. BEILIN, CAN YOU REALLY ACHIEVE A REAL AND LASTING PEACE?
• 04:44 I THINK THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT >>THING IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE WITHDRAWAL FROM GAZA
• 04:48 IS TO SIT TOGETHER, THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, THE PALESTINIAN GOVERNMENT
• 04:53 AND TO TALK ABOUT THE WAY TO CONTINUE.
• 04:56 THERE MIGHT BE A KIND OF A COLLISION COURSE
• 04:59 IF MR. SHARON SAYS I WANT ONLY >>ANOTHER INTERIM AGREEMENT
• 05:03 AND MAHMOUD ABBAS IS SAYING I >>NEED ONLY A PERMANENT SOLUTION.
• 05:07 I'M NOT SURE WHETHER WE HAVE A >>REFEREE IN OUR CAMP.
• 05:12 I'M NOT SURE WHETHER PRESIDENT BUSH IS READY TO PLAY THIS ROLE.
• 05:16 I'M NOT SURE WHETHER EUROPE OR >>ANY OTHER PLAYER IS THERE TO >>HELP US IN SOLVING OUR PROBLEM.
• 05:25 BUT, I AM SURE THAT THERE IS A SOLUTION.
• 05:27 I AM SURE THAT IF BOTH SIDES ARE >>SERIOUS, THEY CAN FIND A PERMANENT AGREEMENT
• 05:34 AND I THINK IT IS AROUND THE CORNER.
• 05:36 SO THE QUESTION FOR ME IS NOT WHETHER THERE IS A READINESS ON BOTH PARTIES
• 05:43 TO GET TOWARDS A PERMANENT SOLUTION EITHER DIRECTLY
• 05:47 AND THEN IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING >>LIKE THE GENEVA INITIATIVE,
• 05:51 WHICH WE INITIATED ABOUT A YEAR >>AND A HALF AGO
• 05:54 OR THROUGH A VERY SHORT INTERIM >>AGREEMENT,
• 05:57 WHICH WILL HAVE A DEADLINE AND >>WHICH WILL ALSO REFER TO THE GRAND DESIGN
• 06:05 OR THE GUIDELINES FOR THE PERMANENT SOLUTION.
• 06:08 AS FAR AS THE PALESTINIANS ARE CONCERNED, JERUSALEM REMAINS AN >>IMPORTANT BARGAINING CHIP.
• 06:14 IN ORDER FOR ANY KIND OF PERMANENT PEACE TO HAPPEN,
• 06:18 THEY DEMAND THAT THIS CITY BE THEIR CAPITAL.
• 06:21 WE GAVE UP JERUSALEM A LONG TIME AGO.
• 06:24 IF YOU WANT TO GO TO EAST >>JERUSALEM TO SOME OF THE REFUGEE >>CAMPS THERE,
• 06:30 YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED, ALTHOUGH IT IS UNDER THE ISRAELI SOVEREIGNTY.
• 06:36 NO ISRAELI GOES THERE. NO TOURIST IS GOING THERE.
• 06:40 THE MUNICIPAL BUREAUCRACY DOESN'T EVEN DARE TO GO THERE AND COLLECT TAXES,
• 06:48 MUNICIPAL TAXES OR TO COLLECT THEIR GARBAGE.
• 06:50 I MEAN, THIS IS THEORETICALLY >>PART OF UNITED JERUSALEM UNDER THE ISRAELI SOVEREIGNTY FOREVER
• 06:58 WHILE IN REALITY IT HAS NEVER BEEN PART OF ISRAEL
• 07:03 AND I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE SPEAK >>ABOUT JERUSALEM,
• 07:06 WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THERE ARE 220,000 PALESTINIANS,
• 07:12 WHO DO NOT WANT TO BE ISRAELI CITIZENS
• 07:15 AND WHO ARE PART OF THIS THREAT ON THE FUTURE OF THE JEWISH STATE.
• 07:20 NOW, BY GIVING UP ON ALL THE EASTERN NEIGHBORHOODS OF JERUSALEM
• 07:25 WE CAN HAVE A BIG JERUSALEM, WHICH HAS A JEWISH MAJORITY FOREVER.
• 07:34 IF I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THE GENEVA INITIATIVE,
• 07:36 WHICH IS AN INITIATIVE AGREED BY BOTH MAINSTREAMS, PALESTINIANS AND ISRAELIS,
• 07:44 WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT THE WAILING WALL AS PART OF THE ISRAELI SOVEREIGNTY,
• 07:50 WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT THE JEWISH QUARTER IN THE OLD CITY AS PART >>OF THE JEWISH SOVEREIGNTY,
• 07:56 WHILE THE TEMPLE MOUNT OR WHAT >>THEY CALL HARAM AL-SHARIF
• 08:01 WILL BE UNDER PALESTINIAN SOVEREIGNTY,
• 08:03 BUT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE THE FULL RIGHT TO VISIT EACH SACRED PLACE
• 08:09 AND NOBODY WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DIG IN THESE PLACES IN ORDER >>NOT TO ENDANGER THEM.
• 08:15 ON A RECENT PROGRAM WE TALKED TO >>SETTLERS WHO ARE ADAMANT
• 08:18 THAT THE LAND BELONGED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 08:21 THERE IS A BIBLICAL REASON THAT >>THEY CLAIM
• 08:23 TO MAINTAIN POSSESSION OF THE LAND GIVEN TO THEM BY GOD.
• 08:28 THIS IS WHERE OUR KINGS RULED.
• 08:32 THIS IS WHERE OUR PROPHETS PROPHESIED
• 08:34 AND THIS IS WHERE WE WILL >>CONTINUE TO BUILD AND RECREATE >>JEWISH LIFE.
• 08:40 WHAT I'M SAYING TO THESE PEOPLE
• 08:41 THAT WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME IS MY CHILDREN
• 08:44 AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IF >>THEY GOT SOME MESSAGE FROM GOD,
• 08:46 IT'S NICE, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CAN ENFORCE ON ALL OF >>US A SITUATION
• 08:52 OF AN ONGOING WAR HERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE BELIEVERS,
• 08:59 I'M ALSO A BELIEVER, I AM A GREAT BELIEVER IN THE FUTURE OF ISRAEL,
• 09:04 I AM A GREAT BELIEVER IN THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 09:06 I'M A GREAT BELIEVER IN PEACE AND I BELIEVE AS A ZIONIST
• 09:09 THAT OUR MISSION IS TO LIVE HERE >>AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE >>MIDDLE EAST WITH OUR NEIGHBORS
• 09:16 RATHER THAN TO FIGHT WITH THEM >>FOREVER.
• 09:19 I MEAN, THEY ARE ALWAYS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD,
• 09:22 PEOPLE WHO GOT SOME MESSAGES FROM ANY GODS.
• 09:25 IF THEY'RE BECOMING A MAJORITY, >>TOUGH LUCK!
• 09:29 BUT THANK HEAVEN THEY ARE NOT A >>MAJORITY, THEY ARE A MINORITY
• 09:33 AND THEY HAVE TO OBEY TO THE DECISIONS OF THE MAJORITY
• 09:36 AND THE MAJORITY IN ISRAEL WANTS >>TO LIVE AND IS NOT READY TO SACRIFICE THE NEXT GENERATION
• 09:44 BECAUSE OF VERY IMPORTANT GRAVES >>OF OUR ANCESTORS.
• 09:50 ONE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN EXPERT IN THE BIBLE, IN THE KORAN, IN >>THE NEW TESTAMENT
• 09:58 OR WHATEVER, IN ORDER TO SOLVE >>OUR PROBLEMS.
• 10:01 WE ARE 2 PEOPLES, PALESTINIANS AND ISRAELIS.
• 10:06 MOST OF US ARE NORMAL PEOPLE.
• 10:08 WE WANT TO RAISE OUR KIDS AND TO >>LIVE IN PEACE.
• 10:12 WE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
• 10:12 THE QUESTION IS ONLY WHETHER WE >>ARE COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND
• 10:18 THAT IF WE DON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM, WE ARE DOOMED.
• 10:21 WELL, WE ARE GIVING THE OTHER SIDE ON OUR PROGRAMS ABOUT >>WITHDRAWAL FROM THE SETTLEMENTS.
• 10:28 THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE, THE SIDE >>THAT THINKS THEY OUGHT TO WITHDRAW,
• 10:31 THEY OUGHT TO GIVE UP THE LAND >>TO THE PALESTINIANS TO MAKE PEACE.
• 10:34 THE SO-CALLED LAND FOR PEACE AND DR. BEILIN IS ALMOST AN EXTREMIST ON THIS.
• 10:41 HE SAYS, THE MORE LAND YOU GIVE >>AWAY, THE MORE PEACE YOU GET.
• 10:45 BUT, ISRAEL SEEMS TO EXPERIENCE >>TERRORISM WHETHER IT GIVES UP LAND OR NOT
• 10:51 AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE RUB.
• 10:53 I'VE ALWAYS SAID OR OF THE LEVITT LETTER HAS SAID,
• 10:54 THE MAGIC SOLUTION TO PEACE IN >>WHAT THE NEWSCASTERS CALL THE "MIDDLE EAST",
• 11:01 THE NORMAL PEOPLE CALL "ISRAEL",
• 11:02 THE SOLUTION IS TOMORROW MORNING WHEN THE PALESTINIANS WAKE UP,
• 11:08 THEY DO NOT GO OUT AND TRY TO KILL AN ISRAELI.
• 11:10 AND THEN THE SAME THING THE NEXT MORNING AND THE SAME THING THE >>MORNING AFTER THAT.
• 11:14 THERE WILL BE PEACE 1000 YEARS.
• 11:16 I'VE SAID IT AND SAID IT.
• 11:17 IF THERE'S ONE PROBLEM IN ISRAEL, IT'S THE MURDERS, THE MURDERS, THE MURDERS.
• 11:21 THEY'VE GOT TO STOP THE TERRORISM AND THEN PEACE CAN HAPPEN.
• 11:25 ISRAELIS WANT PEACE, THAT'S ALL THEY WANT.
• 11:29 WE GOT VERY INTERESTED IN THIS ANGLE AND WE DUG OUT A TERRORISM EXPERT,
• 11:34 AN ISRAELI TERRORISM EXPERT WHO CERTAINLY ,OF COURSE, HAS A LOT >>TO DO OVER THERE
• 11:40 AND WE'LL BE BACK WITH HIM RIGHT AFTER THIS.
• 11:43 THEY BEGAN TO USE WOMEN IN 2002, 2003
• 11:48 BECAUSE THE YOUNG MAN OF 16-25-28 COULD NOT PENETRATE ISRAEL ANYMORE.
• 11:58 ASK FOR OUR FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER
• 12:02 AND OUR CATALOG WITH VIDEOS, BOOKS AND MUSIC.
• 12:05 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, THE >>INSTITUTE OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES INCLUDES
• 12:10 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL IN TESTS.
• 12:14 DID YOU KNOW THAT ZOLA TAKES TOURS TO ISRAEL, GREECE
• 12:18 AND THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE >>THEME PARK IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.
• 12:22 PLEASE CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
• 12:28 ♪ ♪
• 13:05 WELL, MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, >>THE TOURS,
• 13:07 WE'VE NEVER IN 80 TOURS SEEN EVEN THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF ANY UNREST.
• 13:13 WE DON'T GO IN THE PLACES WHERE >>TERRORISM TENDS TO HAPPEN.
• 13:16 FORTUNATELY, THE WAY GOD ARRANGED THINGS,
• 13:18 THERE REALLY ARE NO BIBLICAL SITES IN THE WEST BANK.
• 13:21 IT'S VERY ANCIENT LAND.
• 13:22 IF THERE'S A SITE IT'S SORT WHAT >>THEY CALL A TRADITIONAL SITE.
• 13:25 WE REMEMBER JESUS TALKING WITH >>THE SAMARITAN WOMAN AT THIS >>PLACE OR ON THAT HILL OR SO ON.
• 13:31 BUT, WE GO TO GALILEE, >>JERUSALEM, MASADA, THE DEAD SEA,
• 13:35 PLACES FAR OUT AWAY FROM-- IT'S SORT OF LIKE IN AMERICA.
• 13:39 IF YOU WERE AT THE WORLD TRADE >>CENTER THE DAY IT WAS BOMBED,
• 13:43 YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN TERRORISM AND BY THE WAY,
• 13:45 FAR MORE TERRORISM THAN ISRAEL'S >>HAD IN ITS ENTIRE HISTORY.
• 13:48 IF YOU'D BEEN IN OKLAHOMA CITY >>ON THAT FATEFUL DAY YOU WOULD >>HAVE BEEN A VICTIM OF TERRORISM,
• 13:55 AT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES
• 13:56 YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECTLY SAFE ON THOSE DAYS AND THAT'S THE THEORY.
• 14:00 PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO GO ON THE TOUR, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY SILLY.
• 14:04 I'LL MAKE THE STATEMENT ONE MORE TIME.
• 14:05 NO TOURIST TRAVELING WITH A TOUR GROUP HAS EVER BEEN INJURED IN >>ANY WAY IN ISRAEL.
• 14:13 IT'S NEVER HAPPENED.
• 14:13 I CAN'T SAY THE SAME FOR EGYPT >>AND NOBODY TOURS THE OTHER ARAB COUNTRIES, I SUPPOSE.
• 14:19 BUT, BELIEVE ME OUR TOURS ARE SAFE.
• 14:21 I SLEEP BETTER THERE THAN I DO >>AT HOME.
• 14:24 OUR NEXT TOUR WILL BE IN NOVEMBER.
• 14:25 IT'S THE BEST ONE. I'LL LEAD IT MYSELF.
• 14:27 IT'S BEST BECAUSE WE OFFER A >>GREEK CRUISE WITH IT AND PETRA
• 14:30 AND YOU TAKE THE WHOLE THING AND >>IT'S A LOT OF FUN.
• 14:35 GO IN THIS LIFETIME, SEE THE PROMISE LAND
• 14:37 BEFORE YOU GO THERE AT GOVERNMENT EXPENSE IN THE KINGDOM.
• 14:41 TERRORISM, IT'S THE ISSUE OF THE DAY.
• 14:44 OUR SERIES CALLED "AGE OR TERROR..CONTINUED".
• 14:48 I'M AFRAID IT WILL JUST CONTINUE >>AND CONTINUE.
• 14:50 NOBODY'S FOUND A SOLUTION TO THIS REALLY.
• 14:52 WE'RE SUFFERING IT IN IRAQ EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ARMED TROOPS ON >>THE GROUND.
• 14:57 WE SUFFER TERRORISM ALL THE TIME
• 15:00 AND WE ENCOUNTERED AN ISRAELI EXPERT ON THE SUBJECT.
• 15:04 IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE >>FOLKS IN WASHINGTON.
• 15:07 LISTEN TO THIS.
• 15:08 DR. ELI KARMON IS WITH THE >>INSTITUTE OF COUNTER TERRORISM >>AT HERZLIA ISRAEL,
• 15:13 A RESEARCH INSTITUTE AND THINK TANK
• 15:16 DEDICATED TO DEVELOPING INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM.
• 15:20 WE ASKED DR. KARMON, WHO'S THE >>INITIATOR OF A TYPICAL PALESTINIAN SUICIDE BOMBING,
• 15:26 THE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION OR THE VOLUNTEER?
• 15:30 THE TWO OF THEM.
• 15:31 AT THE BEGINNING IT WAS MAINLY >>THE ORGANIZATION,
• 15:34 WHICH RECRUITED PEOPLE THAT >>SEEMED SUITABLE FOR THIS KIND OF >>OPERATIONS,
• 15:42 BUT AS THERE A GROWING INTEREST >>AND SUCCESS FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW,
• 15:47 OF SUICIDE BOMBINGS MANY PEOPLE VOLUNTEERED.
• 15:49 BUT, THE PROBLEM WAS NOT THE >>VOLUNTEERS, THE PROBLEM WAS TO FIND THE EXPLOSIVE SPECIALIST,
• 15:55 THOSE WHO TRAINED THEM, PREPARED THEM AND IF YOU NEUTRALIZED THEM,
• 16:00 EITHER ARREST OR KILL THEM, SO THEY HAVE PROBLEMS.
• 16:03 SO, MANY TIMES YOU SEE A LOWER >>SUCCESS OF SUCH ATTACKS
• 16:08 BECAUSE THE OPERATIONAL LEVEL WAS NEUTRALIZED AND THIS WAS, BY THE WAY,
• 16:14 A RESULT OF THE LAST 2 YEARS AFTER THE DEFENSIVE SHIELD OPERATION.
• 16:20 ON THE ONE HAND, THE FENCE WAS VERY IMPORTANT,
• 16:23 BUT, ALSO THE HUGE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY OF THE SECURITY AND MILITARY FORCES TO STOP THEM.
• 16:30 SO TODAY WE HAVE A RATE OF 90% SUCCESS IN FOILING THESE ATTACKS.
• 16:37 LAST YEAR FOR EXAMPLE, 2004, WE HAD 352 FOILED ATTEMPTS.
• 16:44 30 OF THEM WERE FOILED WHEN THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY TO DO THE ATTACK.
• 16:50 THE OTHERS WERE ARRESTED AT HOME.
• 16:52 THEY BEGAN TO USE WOMEN IN 2002, 2003
• 16:56 BECAUSE THE YOUNG MAN OF 16-25-28 COULD NOT PENETRATE ISRAEL ANYMORE.
• 17:04 THEY WERE STOPPED AT THE CHECK POINTS.
• 17:08 ALSO THEY USE SOME MAID PEOPLE >>WITH CHILDREN, WHICH WAS ALSO VERY--
• 17:14 AND THIS WAS AN ADAPTATION TO THE OPERATIONAL DIFFICULTIES.
• 17:17 IT IS NOT BECAUSE WOMEN WANTED >>TO BE, ALL OF A SUDDEN, PART OF THE STRUGGLE
• 17:24 OR THE YOUNG BOYS, WHICH KNOW NOTHING OF--
• 17:27 THEY UNDERSTAND BUT THEY WERE >>MANIPULATED BY THE LEADERSHIP.
• 17:33 WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT THE PAYOFFS FOR THESE SUICIDE BOMBERS.
• 17:38 THEY DON'T DO THIS FOR NOTHING.
• 17:39 IF A PALESTINIAN FAMILY HAS 10 OR 12 CHILDREN
• 17:41 AND THEY CAN CONVINCE SOME YOUNGSTER TO GO OUT AND BLOW HIMSELF UP,
• 17:46 WELL, BACK IN THE GREAT DAYS OF >>SADDAM HUSSEIN, THEY USED TO GET $25,000.
• 17:51 THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT EARN MONEY IN HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR,
• 17:55 GETTING $25,000 IN ONE BIG PAYMENT AND THEY'RE MISSING ONLY ONE CHILD
• 18:00 AND SOME FAMILIES LOSE A CHILD >>IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT, ETC. SO THEY MAKE THAT BARGAIN.
• 18:06 AND NOW THAT SADDAM IS NOT PAYING OFF, WELL,
• 18:10 IT'S OUR FRIEND SAUDI ARABIA THAT'S PAYING,
• 18:13 THE VERY PEOPLE THAT PRESIDENT >>HOLDS HANDS WITH ARE HOLDING US HOSTAGE.
• 18:20 YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON THE DRUG CALLED OIL, PETROLEUM.
• 18:24 PEOPLE ARE DIGGING FOR IT IN ISRAEL DESPERATELY, ALTHOUGH IN ISRAEL,
• 18:27 WHAT'S MEANT BY "ASHER WILL PUT >>HIS FOOT IN OIL", IT'S ABOUT OLIVE OIL.
• 18:35 ASHER TERRITORY THERE IN WESTERN SAMARIA WAS FULL OF OLIVE GROVES
• 18:40 AND THEY DID SUPPLY OIL FOR THE >>LAMP AT THE TEMPLE AND THE TABERNACLES.
• 18:46 BUT, PETROLEUM IS ANOTHER MATTER.
• 18:50 IT RUNS OUR ECONOMY, SO WE PRETEND.
• 18:53 THAT'S THE DRUG WE'RE ON AND WE >>PRETEND TO LOVE OUR PUSHER.
• 18:57 DRUG ADDICTS ALWAYS DO THAT.
• 19:00 THEY FORGIVE THE PUSHER JUST ANYTHING.
• 19:02 THE PROBLEM IS OUR PUSHER IS ALSO PUSHING WAHABISM,
• 19:05 THE RADICAL BRAND OF ISLAM THAT >>IS CREATING THE TERRORISM
• 19:08 THAT PREACHES AGAINST AMERICA >>AND ISRAEL, AGAINST CHRISTIANS >>AND JEWS.
• 19:13 WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THEIR MONEY AND THEIR NUMBERS,
• 19:19 THE ISLAMISTS, COULD FINALLY DEFEAT US.
• 19:23 THEY EXPORT TERROR ALONG WITH >>THE OIL AND WITH THAT RELIGION >>THAT THEY TEACH.
• 19:30 THIS IS A KIND OF SCHIZOPHRENIC >>BEHAVIOR OF THE SAUDI LEADERSHIP.
• 19:37 ON THE ONE HAND, THEY WANTED AND >>THEY NEEDED THE SUPPORT,
• 19:41 THE STRATEGIC SUPPORT OF THE UNITED STATES,
• 19:43 FIRST OF ALL AGAINST THE TIME THE SOCIALIST ARAB COUNTRIES
• 19:47 LIKE SYRIA AND IRAQ AND EVEN NASSER'S EGYPT OR LIBYA.
• 19:53 ON THE OTHER HAND AGAINST THE >>IRANIAN PREDOMINANCE, STRATEGIC >>PREDOMINANCE IN THE GULF.
• 19:58 BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND IDEOLOGICALLY THEY WERE VERY FUNDAMENTALIST
• 20:05 AND THEY WANTED THE SPREAD OF >>ISLAM EVERYWHERE BUT THE KIND OF
• 20:11 VERY, WHAT IS CALLED WAHABID ISLAM, WHICH IS VERY >>CONSERVATIVE AND VERY AGGRESSIVE
• 20:18 AGAINST OTHER RELIGIONS LIKE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS.
• 20:23 SO, WHAT THEY DID WITH THE HELP OF THE MONEY THEY ACHIEVED SINCE >>THE GREAT EMBARGO IN 1972,
• 20:30 THE OIL CRISIS, THEY INVESTED IN SPREADING ISLAM THROUGH AMIRS,
• 20:34 THROUGH MOSQUE CULTURAL CENTERS, IMAMS WHICH WERE PAID TO GO TO SOUTH AMERICA OR SOUTH OF ASIA
• 20:42 TO SPREAD THIS KIND OF RADICAL >>ISLAM AND IRONICALLY THEIR MORE RADICAL ISLAMISTS,
• 20:51 TOOK CONTROL OF THIS CENTERS AND MOSQUES A PROPAGATED MORE RADICAL ISLAM.
• 20:58 THE FACT IS THAT ALTHOUGH THE BIN LADEN ATTACKED AT LEAST VERBALLY, SAUDI ARABIA,
• 21:07 AND CONSIDER ITS OIL REGIME AS >>THE MAIN TARGET,
• 21:10 THE SAUDIS SUPPORT IT >>FINANCIALLY AND DIPLOMATICALLY TALIBAN UNTIL THE LAST MOMENT.
• 21:16 EVEN AFTER THE BEGINNING OF THE >>WAR, THEY STILL RECOGNIZED DIPLOMATIC WITH THE TALIBAN.
• 21:20 THERE ARE ONLY 3 COUNTRIES THAT DID IT, SAUDI ARABIA IS ONE OF THESE.
• 21:26 SO THIS IS WHAT I CALL THE SCHIZOPHRENIC PHENOMENON.
• 21:30 THE FACT THAT SAUDI ARABIA HAS FINANCIALLY ASSISTED BIN LADEN >>IS HARDLY BREAKING NEWS,
• 21:35 YET WE CONTINUE TO SHAKE THE HANDS OF SAUDI DIPLOMATS
• 21:39 AND SMILE AS THOUGH WE'RE THE BEST OF FRIENDS.
• 21:41 IT'S CLEARLY BECAUSE OF THE VERY >>BIG STRATEGIC AND ECONOMIC INTEREST.
• 21:47 THE STABILITY OF THIS REGIME IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PRICES OF OIL,
• 21:52 BUT ALSO IF THE RADICALS TAKE CONTROL OF IT, THEN THE SITUATION WILL BE WORSE.
• 21:59 SO THIS IS, I THINK, THE MAIN--
• 22:00 YOU HAVE PERHAPS A SIMILAR SITUATION IF EVEN NOT WORSE IN PAKISTAN,
• 22:05 WHICH WAS THE HOTBED OF THE >>TALIBAN AND WHICH FOR MANY YEARS >>SUPPORTED TALIBAN
• 22:12 AND IN A WAY EVEN AL QAEDA, IF YOU WANT.
• 22:16 SO, THESE ARE THE PROBLEMS OF >>THE INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS AND THE UNITED STATES AS A BIG POWER
• 22:22 MUST ALSO MANEUVER IN ALL THIS >>COMPLICATED WEALTH.
• 22:28 SOMETIMES PERHAPS IT WOULD BE NECESSARY AND THE FACT IS THE DAYS ARE CHANGED TODAY
• 22:33 AND BETTER LATER THAN NEVER.
• 22:37 ♪ GOD WILL HONOR THOSE ♪ HE HAS CHOSEN,
• 22:51 ♪ ♪
• 23:15 ♪ A COMING KINGDOM, ♪ A COMING KING,
• 23:23 ♪ A TIME OF MERCY, ♪ A TIME TO SING.
• 23:32 ♪ A CHOSEN PEOPLE, ♪ A CHOSEN SHORE,
• 23:42 ♪ TO LIVE A DESTINY, ♪ TO KNOW THE LORD.
• 23:56 ♪ ♪
• 24:20 ONE PROBLEM IS LIFE IN THIS 21ST CENTURY, AT LEAST IN THIS COUNTRY,
• 24:27 I SUPPOSE ELSEWHERE, TOO, >>WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THINGS >>THAT WE KNOW AREN'T TRUE.
• 24:32 YOU KNOW, THE LORD'S, ONE OF HIS MOST FAMOUS QUOTES IS JOHN 8:32
• 24:37 AND YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.
• 24:43 THAT'S SO VERY DEEP.
• 24:44 IT'S LITTLE FALSEHOODS THAT KIND >>OF ENSLAVE US
• 24:47 AND KEEP US FROM BEING FREE AND >>I CAN GIVE LISTS OF THEM.
• 24:52 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA,
• 24:53 THE IDEA OF A >>FRIENDLY SAUDI ARABIA, OUR ALLY.
• 24:57 THAT'S NOT TRUE.
• 24:58 THE ADVERTISEMENTS THE SAUDIS >>BOUGHT, THEY SPENT BIG MONEY IN >>WASHINGTON AND ON NATIONAL TV
• 25:04 HAVING A SIT AROUND IN THEIR ROBES AND SAYING, "PARTNERS IN PEACE WITH US".
• 25:10 THAT'S NOT TRUE.
• 25:11 THE IDEA OF MODERATE MUSLIMS ANY PLACE IN LEAGUE WITH US TO HELP >>PUT DOWN THE RADICAL MUSLIMS,
• 25:19 THAT'S NOT TRUE. I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT.
• 25:21 I DON'T CONDEMN A BILLION PEOPLE, BUT NEITHER DO I HEAR MODERATE VOICES.
• 25:26 I CHALLENGED SOME STUDENTS AND FACULTY AT UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS >>AT PITTSBURGH
• 25:34 TO TELL ME ABOUT ANY ONE APOLOGY >>FOR THE WORLD TRADE CENTER
• 25:37 AND A YOUNG GAL STOOD UP IN AN ARAB HEADDRESS AND SAID, WELL, >>THERE'S BEEN MANY APOLOGIES.
• 25:43 I SAID, WELL, IF YOU'LL SEND ME >>JUST ONE EMAIL.
• 25:45 I GAVE HER MY EMAIL ADDRESS >>OUT LOUD AND I'LL RUN IT ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE LEVITT LETTER.
• 25:52 NEVER HEARD FROM HER.
• 25:53 WAR ON TERROR, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
• 25:55 WE'RE NOT MAKING A WAR ON TERROR.
• 25:56 WE'VE RAIDED AFGHANISTAN, WE'RE WORKING ON IRAQ.
• 26:00 BUT, THAT'S NOT WHERE THE TERROR >>IS COMING FROM.
• 26:01 TERROR COMES FROM SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN AND SYRIA AND LIBYA AND >>THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS IT,
• 26:08 THAT WE'RE CONTROLLING IRAN AND >>ITS NUCLEAR PROGRESS, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
• 26:12 THAT THERE ARE MUSLIMS ASSIMILATED AS EVERYDAY NORMAL AMERICANS
• 26:17 FIGHTING FOR OUR FLAG AND SUPPORTING OUR GOVERNMENT, I HAVE TROUBLE WITH IT.
• 26:23 DO WE HAVE HOMELAND SECURITY?
• 26:26 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE.
• 26:27 I DON'T FEEL SECURE AT AIRPORTS >>OR WELL YOU SAW THE SECURITY WHEN A LITTLE PIPER CUB
• 26:32 OR WHATEVER IT WAS FLEW OVER >>WASHINGTON AND THE BEST OF OUR >>SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN
• 26:37 BEAT THEIR GUARDS OUT THE DOORS.
• 26:40 THE MIDDLE EAST PROCESS IS NOT TRUE.
• 26:42 THERE'S NO PEACE PROCESS OVER THERE OR ANYTHING LIKE IT.
• 26:45 JESUS SAID, MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE.
• 26:49 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, >>PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.