Caption transcript for Age of Terror Continued: “Guest: Benny Elon” (3/12)

• 00:29 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
• 00:31 A VERY INTERESTING PROGRAM.
• 00:33 WE'VE GOT A MEMBER OF THE KNESSET, BENNY ELON,
• 00:37 WHO IS A RABBI AND HE'S GOT QUITE A BACKGROUND.
• 00:40 HE'S GOING TO DISCUSS THE WITHDRAWALS, ESPECIALLY THE WITHDRAWAL FROM GAZA.
• 00:45 HE SERVED 2 TERMS AS THE TOURISM MINISTER FOR THE STATE OF ISRAEL.
• 00:50 HE'S BEEN LIVING AS A 7TH GENERATION IN JERUSALEM, HOW ABOUT THAT.
• 00:57 HE'S WRITTEN THIS BOOK, "GOD'S COVENANT WITH ISRAEL"
• 01:00 AND HE FEELS VERY STRONGLY ABOUT >>THESE UPCOMING WITHDRAWALS.
• 01:05 SO TO LOCATION IN ISRAEL AND MEMBER OF THE KNESSET, BENNY ELON.
• 01:11 I REALLY HOPE AND PRAY
• 01:15 THAT WE'LL SUCCEED TO PREVENT THIS DISASTER.
• 01:20 I DON'T TAKE IT AS A POLITICAL PLAN.
• 01:23 I THINK THAT IT IS A PLAN AGAINST THE VERY EXISTENCE OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL
• 01:34 AGAINST THE COVENANT THAT WE HAVE WITH GOD OF ISRAEL.
• 01:39 I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST AS THE PRIME MINISTER, PRIME MINISTER >>SHARON TRIES TO DESCRIBE IT,
• 01:48 SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY IN GAZA STRIP.
• 01:53 NO, THIS IS NOT THE TRUTH.
• 01:56 THE TRUTH IS THAT THIS IS PART >>OF THE PLAN
• 02:01 THAT'S GOING TO BUILD MILITANT >>PALESTINIAN MUSLIM RADICAL FUNDAMENTALIST STATE.
• 02:13 FIRST ON THE MEDITERRANEAN IN GAZA STRIP AND NORTH SAMARIA.
• 02:19 THEN AS PRESIDENT BUSH SAID, UNDER THE INSPIRATION
• 02:25 AND THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF PRIME >>MINISTER SHARON,
• 02:28 BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF >>ARIEL SHARON
• 02:32 THAT HE'S GOING TO GIVE THEM CONTINUITY,
• 02:37 TERRITORIAL CONTINUITY ALL OVER >>JUDEA AND SAMARIA.
• 02:42 NOT ONLY ONE PLACE IN NORTH SAMARIA LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO DO NOW,
• 02:48 HE MEANS THAT ALL OF THE BIRTH PLACES OF OUR COVENANT
• 02:53 BETWEEN THE LAND OF ISRAEL AND >>THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL,
• 02:59 THE LAND OF ISRAEL AND THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
• 03:01 TAKE SHECHEM, NABLUS, THIS WAS THE FIRST LOCATION WHEN ABRAHAM >>GOT THE COMMANDMENT TO GO
• 03:13 GO TO THIS LAND THAT I'LL SHOW YOU.
• 03:17 THE FIRST PLACE THAT HE GOT THE >>REVELATION WAS THERE
• 03:20 AND GOD SAID THIS IS THE LAND THAT I'M GIVING TO YOU AND TO YOUR OFFSPRING.
• 03:26 THEN JACOB THE SAME IN BETHEL AFTER ABRAM HAD THE SAME REVELATION.
• 03:34 BETHEL, THIS IS MY TOWN.
• 03:37 I LIVE THERE.
• 03:39 SHECHEM, HEBRON, JERUSALEM, MT. MORIAH
• 03:43 ALL OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE >>PART OF ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST >>TERRORIST STATE.
• 03:54 NOW, I DON'T SEE WHY PRIME MINISTER SHARON
• 04:00 ENCOURAGING PRESIDENT BUSH,
• 04:03 THAT THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN HERITAGE THAT THE BIBLE,
• 04:10 THAT ALL THE PROPHECIES WILL BE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GOING TO >>BE FULFILLED, GOD FORBID.
• 04:23 THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS WILL FEEL IN EXILE IN THEIR OWN PROMISED LAND
• 04:31 AND MUSLIMS WILL CELEBRATE
• 04:33 AND MUSLIMS WILL HAVE >>INDEPENDENT PALESTINIAN MUSLIM >>TERRORIST STATE
• 04:41 IN THOSE BIRTHPLACES OF THE COVENANT.
• 04:44 THEY HAVE 21 MUSLIM STATES SURROUNDING US.
• 04:50 THEIR HOLY SITE IN MECCA, SAUDI ARABIA,
• 04:54 NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO GO THERE.
• 04:55 WE HAVE THIS SPECIFIC PLACE, >>THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE COVENANT >>WITH ABRAHAM, WITH ISAAC,
• 05:05 WITH JACOB AND THIS IS THE PROMISED LAND FOR THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.
• 05:12 IT'S HOLY LAND FOR,
• 05:13 MAYBE MUSLIMS ALSO SAYING THAT >>IT'S HOLY FOR THEM,
• 05:17 BUT THIS IS THE PROMISED LAND >>ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.
• 05:22 WHY WEHAVE TO BE AGAINST THE BIBLE
• 05:24 AND THAT'S WHAT ARIEL SHARON THAT ONCE UPON A TIME CAME AS A HAWKISH,
• 05:31 AS SOMEONE WHO SPOKE ON BEHALF >>OF THE RIGHT WING IN ISRAEL,
• 05:37 HE'S THE ONE THAT'S RUNNING IT >>AND HE'S THE ONE THAT I THINK
• 05:45 DECEIVING AND PUTTING PRESIDENT >>BUSH IN A TRAP THAT HE,
• 05:52 THE PRESIDENT THAT'S SO CLOSE TO THE BIBLE WILL DO THINGS AGAINST >>THE BIBLE.
• 05:59 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT >>BUSH KNOWS
• 06:04 HOW PROBLEMATIC AND HOW ANTI-BIBLE ARE THOSE ACTS
• 06:12 TO CREATE TERROR PALESTINIAN >>MUSLIM STATE IN THE HEARTLAND,
• 06:20 THE BIBLICAL HEARTLAND OF ISRAEL.
• 06:23 IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT >>ALLOWED TO DO AND HAVE TO DO THE OPPOSITE.
• 06:30 WE HAVE TO ANNEX THOSE PLACES TO ISRAEL.
• 06:33 WE HAVE TO TREAT THEM AS PART OF >>THE MIRACLE OF THE CAPTIVITY OF ZION,
• 06:42 THE RETURNING TO ZION AND IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL.
• 06:49 THIS IS THE BIBLE AND THAT'S HOW >>IT WILL BE.
• 06:55 WOW, THAT'S A VIEW AND IT'S A VERY COMPLEX, EMOTIONAL ISSUE.
• 07:01 LET ME CLARIFY A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE SITUATION AS IT APPLIES TO GAZA.
• 07:07 WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT JUDEA AND SAMARIA, QUITE CORRECT,
• 07:11 THIS WAS JEWISH TRIBAL INHERITANCE AND SO ON.
• 07:13 THE PEOPLE LIVING AROUND GAZA IN >>THE SETTLEMENTS ARE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
• 07:19 LET ME CLARIFY, THERE'S 8500 JEWISH SETTLERS LIVING,
• 07:24 THEY'RE FARMING, THEY'RE DOING >>KIBBUTZ-LIKE THINGS THERE
• 07:27 ACROSS A ROAD FROM 120,000 POTENTIAL MURDERERS.
• 07:33 THE PALESTINIANS ACROSS THE ROAD HAVE ALREADY THROWN ROCKETS ON >>THESE SETTLEMENTS
• 07:39 AND THE THING IS, YOU CAN'T STOP ROCKETS.
• 07:41 YOU HAVE TO GO IN AND GET THE >>PEOPLE WHO ARE SHOOTING THEM IS >>ABOUT ALL YOU CAN DO
• 07:45 AND THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF SOLDIERS AND A LOT OF BAD PUBLICITY AND SO FORTH.
• 07:52 THAT'S A TIGHT SPOT.
• 07:54 SHARON IS A GENERAL.
• 07:55 HE UNDERSTANDS THAT GAZA IS NOT DEFENSIBLE.
• 07:58 THEY ARE OUT IN A FRONTIER, WAY OUT FROM JERUSALEM AND THE WORLD DOESN'T ALLOW ISRAEL TO FIGHT.
• 08:05 IF THE ARMY COULD TAKE OVER THIS BATTLE WITH THE PALESTINIANS, IT >>WOULD BE OVER IN A DAY.
• 08:13 PEOPLE ARE CRYING THAT IF YOU LEAVE GAZA, IT'S A MILITARY DEFEAT.
• 08:19 WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT IS.
• 08:21 OF COURSE IT IS, LIKE WE HAD A >>MILITARY DEFEAT IN VIET NAM
• 08:25 WHEN WE DIDN'T LET OUR SOLDIERS FIGHT.
• 08:27 THERE'S NO WAY TO AVOID A DEFEAT >>IF, I MEAN,
• 08:30 HOW CAN YOU WIN A BOXING MATCH >>IF YOU HAVE YOUR HANDS TIED BEHIND YOU?
• 08:33 SO, THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE IN A MILITARY DEFEAT.
• 08:38 I DON'T KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS >>BECAUSE THE SALIENT FACT IS,
• 08:43 GAZA WAS NOT PART OF THE TRIBAL >>INHERITANCE.
• 08:47 JUDEA AND SAMARIA WERE, BUT NOT GAZA.
• 08:51 GAZA WAS OCCUPIED BY FOREIGN POWERS, PARTICULARLY THE PHILISTINES,
• 08:55 WHO BY THE WAY WERE GREEK.
• 08:56 THEY WERE NOT ARABS OF ANY SORT AND ARE NO RELATIONSHIP WHATEVER >>TO TODAY'S PALESTINIANS.
• 09:01 THE FUTURE OF WHAT'S GOING TO >>HAPPEN HERE IS FAIRLY CLEAR IF >>YOU UNDERSTAND PROPHECY.
• 09:08 I WOULD SAY THE PALESTINIANS ARE GOING TO GET STRONGER
• 09:13 DOWN THERE IN GAZA AND TAKE OVER >>THAT TERRITORY.
• 09:15 THIS ROADMAP WILL LEAD US DOWN A >>PATH WHERE THEY'RE GIVEN MORE AND MORE TERRITORY
• 09:21 AND FINALLY THEY WILL THINK THEY CAN OVERWHELM ISRAEL AND THEY'LL >>OVERPLAY THEIR HAND.
• 09:26 THEY'LL COME DOWN THE HILLS AGAINST JEWISH PEOPLE,
• 09:29 WHICH WILL BE LARGELY LINED UP ALONG THE MEDITERRANEAN COAST,
• 09:32 I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, GIVEN THE SCENARIO WHERE THE JEWS HAVE NO CHOICE, BUT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES
• 09:40 OR TO BACK UP INTO THE SEA, THEY WILL DEFEND THEMSELVES
• 09:43 AND THEY WILL GIVE THE >>PALESTINIANS QUITE A SHELLACKING >>AT THAT POINT
• 09:46 AND THE WORLD THEN CAN'T SAY, >>"AH, YOU'RE OCCUPYING TERRITORY >>AND KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE."
• 09:52 IF IT'S AN ATTACK AND THEY ARE NOT OCCUPYING ANYTHING, THEY'RE >>ON THEIR OWN TERRITORY
• 09:57 AND YOU'VE MADE A PALESTINIAN STATE IN THE WEST BANK AND SAMARIA, WHATEVER
• 10:03 AND JUDEA AND THAT'S A STATE >>WITH BOUNDARIES, WELL IT ATTACKS ANOTHER STATE, ALL BETS ARE OFF.
• 10:12 THEN THE STATE CAN DEFEND ITSELF.
• 10:13 I THINK THAT DEFEAT WOULD LEAD >>US TO THE INVASION OF GOG AND MAGOG,
• 10:19 ANOTHER AS YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE, >>AN ISLAMIC INVASION OF ISRAEL
• 10:22 AND THAT ONE DOES NOT CURE THE >>GENTILE OF TRYING TO GET THE JEWS OUT OF ISRAEL.
• 10:29 THEY'LL FORM UP ANOTHER MOBILIZATION AND FINALLY
• 10:32 ARMAGEDDON WILL ENSUE FROM ALL >>OF THIS.
• 10:34 THAT'S, I THINK, OUR ROAD MAP TO PEACE IS A ROAD MAP TO ARMAGEDDON, THAT'S ALL.
• 10:39 SHARON IS NOT A BIBLICAL GUY, >>BUT HE CAN SEE A BATTLE COMING.
• 10:44 HE'S ONE OF ISRAEL'S MOST BRILLIANT GENERALS.
• 10:46 HE WAS A BATTLEFIELD GENERAL, OF COURSE.
• 10:48 PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT A CIVIL WAR.
• 10:51 IT'S NOT CIVIL WAR THAT'S COMING.
• 10:53 IT'S WORLD WAR.
• 10:55 BACK AFTER THIS.
• 11:04 ASK FOR OUR FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER
• 11:09 AND OUR CATALOG WITH VIDEOS, BOOKS AND MUSIC.
• 11:12 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, THE >>INSTITUTE OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES INCLUDES
• 11:18 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL IN TESTS.
• 11:23 DID YOU KNOW THAT ZOLA TAKES TOURS TO ISRAEL, GREECE
• 11:25 AND THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE >>THEME PARK IN ORLANDO FLORIDA?
• 11:29 PLEASE CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
• 11:36 ♪ FOLLOW ME TO GALILEE
• 11:37 AND JESUS SAID UNTO THEM, DO NOT BE AFRAID,
• 11:40 GO TELL MY BRETHREN TO GO INTO >>GALILEE, THERE THEY WILL SEE.
• 11:45 IT STRENGTHENS OUR FAITH TO KNOW THAT JESUS WALKED ON THE WATER AND THAT WE CAN CALL OUT TO HIM.
• 11:53 IT MAKES THE WHOLE SCRIPTURES COME TO LIFE.
• 12:06 WELL, COME TO ISRAEL ON ONE OF >>OUR TOURS,
• 12:09 SEE IT WHILE YOU CAN BEFORE YOU >>GO AT GOVERNMENT EXPENSE
• 12:12 AND I MEAN BY THAT WITH THE LORD >>IN THE KINGDOM.
• 12:15 WE MAKE A LOT OF FRIENDS ON OUR TOURS.
• 12:17 WE MEET THE PEOPLE OVER THERE >>AND ONE OF OUR GOOD FRIENDS IS >>OUR NEXT GUEST.
• 12:21 DR. MICHAEL WIDLANSKI IS A >>PROFESSOR AT HEBREW UNIVERSITY.
• 12:27 HE'S AN EXPERT ON THE ARAB MEDIA.
• 12:29 HE SPEAKS THE LANGUAGE, HE SPEAKS 6 LANGUAGES.
• 12:31 HE'S GOT MONITOR ALL OVER HIS >>HOME AND HE FOLLOWS ARABIC NEWS
• 12:36 AND HE HAS A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT.
• 12:38 TO HIS HOME.
• 12:39 ALRIGHT, WE'RE IN MY OFFICE AND I'M SURROUNDED BY THE ARAB MEDIA.
• 12:46 ON MY TV I'M WATCHING THE ARAB >>WORLD ON SATELLITE DISHES.
• 12:51 RIGHT HERE WE HAVE PALESTINIAN TV AND I JUST SWITCH A CHANNEL
• 12:56 AND I'M WATCHING HEZBOLLAH ALMANAR.
• 12:59 IF I WANT TO WATCH AL JAZEERA, >>I FLIP THE CHANNEL AND I'M WATCHING AL JAZEERA
• 13:07 AND THAT'S THE STATION THAT'S >>MOST WATCHED IN THE ARAB WORLD >>IN GENERAL.
• 13:12 IT COMES OUT OF QATAR IN THE >>GULF AND IT'S A PAN-ARAB STATION
• 13:20 WITH AN ISLAMIC SIDE TO IT, AS WELL.
• 13:24 THAT'S THE TELEVISION.
• 13:25 IN ADDITION TO THE TELEVISION I >>HAVE MY RADIO
• 13:27 AND I'M USUALLY MONITORING PALESTINIAN STATE RADIO,
• 13:30 WHICH TO ME IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SINGLE MEDIA OUTLET OF THE PALESTINIANS.
• 13:35 IT'S THE MOST IMMEDIATE, WHEN >>THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY WANTS >>TO GET SOMETHING OUT FAST,
• 13:40 PALESTINIAN RADIO, UNDILUTED, DIRECT.
• 13:43 IN ADDITION I FOLLOW THE NEWSPAPERS, WHICH I FOLLOW BY THE INTERNET,
• 13:49 WHICH I USE MY COMPUTER FOR AND I FOLLOW EVERYBODY VIA THE INTERNET.
• 13:54 THIS MAKES ME SLIGHTLY A SCHIZOPHRENIC PERSON AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.
• 13:58 I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO WATCH FIRST >>OR LOOK AT FIRST OR LISTEN TO FIRST.
• 14:04 BUT, IT GIVES ME A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.
• 14:05 I REALLY SHOULD BE ABOUT 30 PEOPLE IN ONE,
• 14:07 BUT THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO DO FOLLOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
• 14:12 ACCORDING TO DOCTOR WIDLANSKI, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ARAB MEDIA >>CANNOT BE OVERSTRESSED.
• 14:18 WORDS AND MESSAGES THAT >>WE MAY PERCEIVE AS PEACEFUL IN >>THE WESTERN WORLD
• 14:24 MAY NOT MEAN THE SAME IN ARABIC.
• 14:26 THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT THAT >>AN ARAB LEADER WHO SPEAKS TO GEORGE BUSH
• 14:30 USES A DIFFERENT VOCABULARY THAN AN ARAB LEADER WHO'S SPEAKING TO >>THE PALESTINIAN AUDIENCE
• 14:36 OR THE EGYPTIAN AUDIENCE.
• 14:37 THE SAME WORDS THAT IN ENGLISH MEAN WHAT THEY SOUND LIKE TO US,
• 14:43 PEACE, STABILITY, DON'T ALWAYS MEAN THE SAME THING IN ARABIC.
• 14:47 WHEN YOU USE A TERM IN ARABIC LIKE TAHADIA, WHICH MEANS COOLING OFF PERIOD
• 14:53 OR HUDNA, WHICH MEANS A ONE-SIDED TRUCE
• 14:56 FOR THE PURPOSE OF GETTING ARMS AND GETTING STRONGER TO BEAT THE >>INFIDEL LATER ON,
• 15:02 IT MEANS SOMETHING ELSE IN ARABIC
• 15:03 AND THAT ONE WORD CARRIES A WHOLE RESONANCE OF MEANINGS FOR AN ARAB AUDIENCE.
• 15:10 SO, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT'S GOING ON.
• 15:12 THERE IS ALSO A WHOLE VOCABULARY >>OF HIDDEN MESSAGES.
• 15:14 FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN AN ISRAELI SOLDIER DIES OR AN AMERICAN SOLDIER IN IRAQ DIES,
• 15:22 THE TERM IS OFTEN USED IN ARABIC >>(SPEAKING ARABIC)
• 15:29 WHICH LITERALLY MEANS, HE MET HIS RUIN OR HE MET HIS FATE IN ARABIC.
• 15:35 NOW THAT OFTEN WILL BE TRANSLATED BY PEOPLE AT THE NEWS AGENCY, DIED.
• 15:39 BUT, WHEN THEY REFER TO AN ARAB >>WHO DIES FIGHTING THE U.S. IN IRAQ OR ATTACKING ISRAEL,
• 15:46 THEY'LL SAY (ARABIC), WHICH LITERALLY MEANS,
• 15:50 WAS MARTYRED OR BECAME A HOLY MARTYR OR WAS A BRAVE MARTYR,
• 15:56 WAS A WITNESS TO GOD'S GREATNESS.
• 15:58 THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CONNOTATION IN DEATH.
• 16:01 SO EVEN ONE WORDS MAKES ALL THE >>DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD
• 16:04 AND WHEN SOMEBODY IN THE ARAB WORLD SAYS, I'M FOR A JUST >>SOLUTION TO THE REFUGEE PROBLEM
• 16:11 AND THEY RETURN TO THEIR HOMES, >>THAT SAYS ONE THING TO AN ARAB AUDIENCE
• 16:16 AND WHEN AN AMERICAN AUDIENCE SAYS, HEARS,
• 16:21 I'M FOR THE RIGHT OF RETURN, >>BUT WE CAN DISCUSS IT, THAT'S A >>TOTALLY DIFFERENT MESSAGE.
• 16:29 WELL, THIS IS ACTUALLY >>PALESTINIAN BROADCASTING HEBREW >>RIGHT NOW.
• 16:33 THEY HAVE AN AFTERNOON BROADCAST IN HEBREW AND WE JUST CAUGHT IT >>RIGHT NOW
• 16:39 AND AN AFTERNOON BROADCAST AND HE'S SAYING RIGHT NOW
• 16:44 THAT 3 BOYS WERE KILLED ALONG THE BORDER WHO WERE TRYING TO INFILTRATE
• 16:51 ALONG THE EGYPTIAN, PALESTINIAN, >>ISRAELI CORRIDOR THERE, WERE INNOCENT.
• 16:57 THEY SHOWED PICTURES OF THEM IN >>THEIR TRAYS IN THE MORGUE.
• 17:00 EARLIER IN THE DAY, OF COURSE >>MOST OF THE DAY, YOU HAVE IT IN ARABIC AND THEY'VE BEEN TALKING.
• 17:07 THEY'RE TRYING TO SEND A MESSAGE >>TO AN ISRAELI AUDIENCE ALSO.
• 17:10 THE ISRAELI AUDIENCE IS IMPORTANT TO THEM, NOT THAT IMPORTANT,
• 17:13 BUT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM AND ESPECIALLY THEY'VE BEEN REACHING >>OUT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS
• 17:19 AND ESPECIALLY UNDER ABBAS TO WHAT THEY CALL THE ISRAELI PEACE CAMP.
• 17:24 THERE'S A RELATIVELY LIMITED NUMBER OF ISRAELI PEOPLE
• 17:32 WHO SPEAK ARABIC WELL ENOUGH TO >>FOLLOW THE NEWS IN ARABIC.
• 17:36 IT'S GONE DOWN OVER THE YEARS.
• 17:38 IN THE EARLY 50S, 60S YOU HAD A >>MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE.
• 17:42 TODAY IT'S MUCH LOWER.
• 17:43 YOU KNOW, IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT >>THE PALESTINIAN MEDIA FOISTS LIES ON THE WHOLE WORLD,
• 17:48 BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A MESSAGE >>FOR THE ISRAELI, AS WELL.
• 17:51 WE ASKED DR. WIDLANSKI JUST HOW >>HE SAW THE CHANGE FROM ARAFAT TO MAHMOUD ABBAS,
• 18:00 WHO IS OF COURSE TRUSTED BY THE WHITE HOUSE, BECAUSE OF COURSE >>HE WEARS A NECKTIE.
• 18:05 THE TERRORIST, MURDERERS WITH >>BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS VISIT WITH >>OUR PEOPLE FROM WASHINGTON
• 18:12 AND IF THEY HAVE A COAT AND TIE, >>WELL, ONE OF OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CALLED THEM
• 18:17 "BUSINESS PROFESSIONALS".
• 18:20 I REMEMBER WHEN I SAW THE GODFATHER MOVIE,
• 18:21 THE GODFATHER CAN USUALLY BE FOUND IN A FINE SUIT, A WHITE SHIRT AND A TIE.
• 18:27 ABBAS IS A VERY INTERESTING FELLOW, DR. ABBAS.
• 18:30 HE HAS A DOCTORATE FROM THE KGB UNIVERSITY KNOWN AS PATRICE LUMUMBA UNIVERSITY
• 18:36 AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE'S A >>KGB GUY
• 18:38 AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE'S A >>COMMUNIST, BECAUSE HE ISN'T.
• 18:42 BUT, HE STUDIED UNDER KGB OFFICIALS.
• 18:48 HE PICKED UP A LOT OF THINGS.
• 18:49 THE FIRST IS HE'S NOT SPITTING >>AT YOU WHEN HE TALKS TO YOU LIKE ARAFAT
• 18:54 AND HE'S NOT ALL OVER YOUR FACE >>AND HE'S LEARNED TO PUT ON A TIE.
• 18:59 HE'S LEARNED HOW TO MODULATE HIS MESSAGE.
• 19:02 HE'S VERY, VERY SUAVE AND HE'S >>CHANGED THE CRUDE MESSAGES
• 19:08 OF THE PALESTINIAN MEDIA TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
• 19:11 YOU WON'T SEE NOW, WHAT WE USED >>TO SEE ALL THE TIME UNDER ARAFAT,
• 19:15 FILMS OF WOMEN IN SEE-THROUGH OR ALMOST SEE-THROUGH GOSSAMER BLOUSES,
• 19:23 GORGEOUS WOMEN APPEARING BEFORE 12 YEAR OLD BOYS SAYING, COME, >>COME, JOIN US IN PARADISE.
• 19:32 AS IF TO SAY, BE A MARTYR AND THEN YOU GET A TASTE OF SOMETHING REALLY GOOD,
• 19:37 THE FAMOUS STUFF ABOUT THE 72 VIRGINS.
• 19:40 YOU DON'T SEE THAT AND HE TONED DOWN SOME OF THE GORIER VIDEOS >>THAT YOU USED TO SEE.
• 19:48 BUT, THEN WHEN HE STARTED HE >>STARTED HIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN,
• 19:51 IT CAME UP AGAIN FOR A BIT AND >>YOU'D SEE THINGS LIKE, VERY SYMBOLIC MESSAGES
• 19:56 SUCH AS THE KEFFIYEH, THE ARAB HEADCLOTH WOULD BE DRAPED OVER >>THE WHOLE MAP OF PALESTINE,
• 20:05 NOT JUST THE WEST BANK, NOT JUST GAZA
• 20:08 AND HE APPEARED SAYING SOME VERY TOUGH THINGS AND NOT JUST HIM.
• 20:14 AGAIN, THE PALESTINIAN MEDIA NOW >>USES THE TERMINOLOGY
• 20:21 "RESISTANCE OPERATION", "EXPLOSIVE OPERATION".
• 20:26 THEY USUALLY DIDN'T USE THIS KIND OF THING DURING ARAFAT'S ERA.
• 20:31 IT'S ACTUALLY SNEAKING STUFF IN >>THE BACK DOOR
• 20:34 THAT'S EVEN TOUGHER THAN ARAFAT >>IN SOME RESPECTS.
• 20:37 THE MESSAGE ON PALESTINIAN RIGHT OF RETURN, THE RIGHTS OF REFUGEES,
• 20:42 THE RIGHTS TO TAKE BACK >>JERUSALEM FROM THE JEWS WHO HAVE >>JUDAIZED JERUSALEM,
• 20:49 THAT MESSAGE HAS ACTUALLY GOTTEN >>TOUGHER IN THE LAST 3 OR 4 >>MONTHS THAN IT WAS UNDER ARAFAT.
• 20:57 PEOPLE FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT ABBAS IS LIKE A GREAT BASEBALL PITCHER.
• 21:04 HE DOESN'T JUST THROW FASTBALLS, >>HE THROWS CURVES, HE THROWS KNUCKLEBALLS,
• 21:09 HE THROWS A SCREWBALL EVERY-- HE CHANGES PACE AND HE KEEPS PEOPLE OFF BALANCE.
• 21:15 BUT, HE'S SENDING A VERY CLEAR >>MESSAGE TO THE PALESTINIAN AUDIENCE,
• 21:19 WHICH IS, WE HAVEN'T GIVEN UP, >>WE HAVEN'T GIVEN UP THE ARMS STRUGGLE.
• 21:24 WE'LL GO BACK TO IT WHEN WE NEED TO.
• 21:27 RIGHT NOW IT'S HURTING US, LET'S >>MOVE ALONG TO SOMETHING ELSE
• 21:30 AND THE OTHER MESSAGE THAT HE'S >>SAYING IS, AND AGAIN THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN ARAFAT,
• 21:36 HE'S UNIFIED WITH HAMAS AND JIHAD
• 21:40 AND HE'S GONE AFTER IT SINGLE-MINDEDLY IN 3 MONTHS THE WAY ARAFAT NEVER DID.
• 21:47 ARAFAT WOULD PLAY WITH HAMAS AND JIHAD.
• 21:50 HE WAS SYMPATHETIC TO THEM.
• 21:52 HE WOULD COVER THEIR ACT.
• 21:53 HE WOULD MAKE SURE THEY WOULDN'T >>GET CAPTURED.
• 21:56 ABBAS HAS SAID, "I WANT YOU IN THE PLO.
• 21:59 "YOU'RE PART OF MY ORGANIZATION.
• 22:01 "WE'RE BROTHERS TOGETHER IN ARMS."
• 22:03 NOW, THAT'S A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY NEW,
• 22:10 VERY DIFFERENT FROM ARAFAT AND >>IN FACT IT'S VERY MILITANT BECAUSE THE OSLO ACCORDS,
• 22:17 THE 1993 AGREEMENTS WERE >>ESSENTIALLY ABOUT ISRAEL AND THE >>PLO SAYING,
• 22:24 "WE KNOW WE'VE HATED EACH OTHER, >>WE'RE BURYING THE HATCHET.
• 22:28 "WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THINGS BETWEEN US PEACEFULLY."
• 22:31 PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE TO THAT ON EITHER SIDE, ISLAMIC CRAZIES, >>JEWISH CRAZIES,
• 22:37 WHOEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE, >>WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN JAIL.
• 22:40 ABBAS IS NOT SAYING, >>I'M GOING TO PUT THEM IN JAIL,
• 22:43 HE'S SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO DISARM THEM,
• 22:45 NOT ONLY AM I NOT GOING TO DISARM THEM, I WANT TO MARRY THEM.
• 22:49 WE ASKED DR. WIDLANSKI IF HE >>PERCEIVED THERE WAS ANY KIND OF >>WARMING UP TOWARD ISRAEL,
• 22:54 GIVEN THE FACT THAT LAND WOULD >>SOON BE TURNED OVER TO THE PALESTINIANS.
• 22:59 I THINK NOT.
• 23:01 I THINK EVERY TIME ISRAEL HAS MADE A CONCESSION, ABBAS HAS >>GREETED IT WITH ANOTHER DEMAND.
• 23:06 ABBAS GOT ISRAEL TO RELEASE 500 >>PALESTINIAN CONVICTS,
• 23:14 PEOPLE CONVICTED OF VARIOUS ACTS >>OF TERROR.
• 23:16 THEY NO LONGER, NO SOONER BEEN >>RELEASED, THAN 5 OR 6 OF THEM WERE GRABBED AGAIN
• 23:22 BECAUSE THEY WERE PLANNING TO MAKE THEIR OWN KASAB ROCKETS
• 23:26 IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE WEST BANK, HOMEMADE ROCKETS,
• 23:30 WHICH UNTIL NOW HAVE ONLY BEEN >>USED IN THE GAZA STRIP
• 23:32 AND IF THEY START FUNCTIONING FROM THE WEST BANK, ALL BETS ARE OFF,
• 23:37 BECAUSE YOU CAN REACH HALF OF ISRAEL WITH A 5 OR 6 MILE ROCKET RANGE.
• 23:42 YOU CAN REACH TEL AVIV AIRPORT, >>IT'S NO BIG DEAL.
• 23:45 THAT'S REALLY SERIOUS STUFF AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE ALSO ANNOUNCED
• 23:49 IS WHEN ISRAEL SAID WE'RE GIVING >>YOU JERICHO, SHOW US THAT YOU CAN OPERATE IT WELL.
• 23:54 WELL, IN JERICHO THERE ARE 5 >>ARAB TERRORIST LEADERS WHO ARE UNDER BRITISH CUSTODY RIGHT NOW.
• 24:03 ONE OF THEM, AHMED SAADAT PLANNED AND CARRIED OUT
• 24:08 THE ASSASSINATION OF AN ISRAELI CABINET MINISTER A FEW YEARS AGO
• 24:13 AND ISRAEL AGREED NOT TO KILL HIM, TO KEEP HIM IN BRITISH CUSTODY.
• 24:18 WELL, AS SOON AS ABBAS GOT JERICHO, HE SAID, I'M RELEASING HIM.
• 24:21 THE ISRAELI SAID THE DAY YOU >>RELEASE HIM, WE'RE GOING TO GO >>BACK INTO JERICHO
• 24:25 AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND HIM AND >>TRACK HIM DOWN AND KILL HIM.
• 24:28 ABBAS HASN'T RELEASED HIM YET.
• 24:30 HE ALSO SAID HE WOULD RELEASE FUAD SHUBAKI,
• 24:33 WHO WAS ARAFAT'S MASTER MONEY MAN AND GUN RUNNER.
• 24:37 THE MAN WHO ORGANIZED THE >>KARINE-A SHIPMENT OF ARMS FROM >>IRAN INTO THE GAZA STRIP
• 24:46 AND THE WEST BANK, A TREMENDOUS >>ARMS SHIPMENT.
• 24:49 WELL, IF YOU'RE RELEASING THESE PEOPLE, IS THAT A MESSAGE OF PEACE?
• 24:54 NOW LET'S SAY YOU'RE RELEASING >>THEM, YOU PUT THEM UNDER HOUSE ARREST,
• 24:58 YOU'RE SAYING I'M MAKING SURE THEY'LL NEVER DO THIS AGAIN.
• 25:01 BUT, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
• 25:02 ABBAS HASN'T DISARMED ONE, NOT ONE PERSON
• 25:06 AND HE'S COME OUT AND SAID IN THE EGYPTIAN NEWS SERVICE AND PALESTINIAN NEWSPAPER
• 25:12 (SPEAKING ARABIC), I AM NOT >>GOING TO PEEL THE WEAPONS AWAY >>FROM OUR PEOPLE.
• 25:21 THAT'S A VERY STRONG MESSAGE.
• 25:25 WELL, OUR GUEST IS VERY COMPETENT
• 25:26 AND HE ADDRESSES THE REAL PALESTINIAN WEAPON, WHICH IS THE MEDIA.
• 25:31 IT REALLY IS AWFUL THAT THE LIES >>THEY TELL, IT'S NOT THAT THEY ARE SO CLEVER,
• 25:36 BUT THAT THE STUFF THEY MAKE UP >>IS SUPPORTED BY ANTI-SEMITIC MEDIA THE WORLD AROUND,
• 25:42 BBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN LOVE THIS SORT OF THING AND THEY >>REPRINT IT WITHOUT EXAMINATION.
• 25:50 THE U.N. EVEN WENT TO JENIN WHEN THE PALESTINIANS CLAIMED THERE >>WAS A MASSACRE.
• 25:57 IT'S SILLY.
• 25:58 I TOLD THE STORY BEFORE, BUT THE >>EXPERTS GOT THERE AND SAID
• 26:02 THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE BEEN >>A MASSACRE HERE BECAUSE IF,
• 26:04 REALLY, THE NUMBER OF BODIES WERE HERE THAT YOU SAY,
• 26:08 FRANKLY JUST WALKING IN THE VILLAGE WE WOULD SMELL BAD.
• 26:11 WELL, THAT NIGHT THE ARABS WENT TO A LOCAL GRAVEYARD AND DUG UP, >>I SWEAR,
• 26:18 DUG UP BODIES AND TOOK THEM THERE AND BURIED THEM IN THE TOWN.
• 26:22 NEVER MIND THEY DIDN'T SMELL >>AFTER ALL THE TIME, AND SO ON.
• 26:26 THIS IS SUPPORTED AROUND THE WORLD, BUT NOT TO WORRY
• 26:30 BECAUSE GOD IS IN CHARGE AS USUAL AND THE END OF THE BOOK OF AMOS,
• 26:34 AMOS 9:15, A VERSE I LOVE, HE'S TALKING ABOUT ISRAEL RETURNING TO THE LAND HE SAYS
• 26:49 SO, SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.