
Academic Terrorism with Joan Peters, Part 2
Air dates: 2005-Jun-19
Production Code: 781
Episode 2 of 12 in the series “Age of Terror Continued”
Duration: 28:31
Year: 2005
Closed Captioned
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Caption transcript for Age of Terror Continued: “Academic Terrorism” with Joan Peters, Part 2 (2/12)
- 00:29 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
- 00:30 MY GUEST ON THIS PROGRAM IS A VERY SPECIAL ONE.
- 00:33 JOAN PETERS IS THE AUTHOR OF "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL".
- 00:38 THIS IS THE KIND OF BOOK THEY CALL SOURCE MATERIAL.
- 00:42 THIS IS LIKE THE BIBLE AND IT'S ABOUT THE MIDDLE EAST SITUATION.
- 00:47 SHE WENT THERE ORIGINALLY AS A LIBERAL REPORTER
- 00:54 TO LOOK AT THE PALESTINIANS, THE ARABS IN THEIR REFUGEE CAMPS,
- 00:57 AND DISCOVERED ALL OF THE LIES GOING ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
- 01:00 SHE WROTE THIS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL SOURCE BOOK.
- 01:04 WE'VE HAD ISRAELI PRIME MINISTERS ON THIS PROGRAM
- 01:07 AND UNITED STATES PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES AND SO ON.
- 01:10 BUT, I'M ALWAYS HONORED TO WELCOME YOU, JOAN PETERS.
- 01:14 WELL, THANK YOU.
- 01:15 IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE HERE.
- 01:16 SHE WAS ON LAST WEEK AND I GAVE HER A SIMILAR INTRODUCTION,
- 01:20 BUT IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR SOME WONDERFUL STUFF FROM OVER THERE.
- 01:25 I WANTED TO BRING UP THIS SETTLEMENT, SO CALLED, MAALE ADUMMIM,
- 01:29 WHICH IS A HUGE, SMALL CITY ON THE EAST END OF JERUSALEM.
- 01:35 YOU LEAVE JERUSALEM TO DRIVE TO THE DEAD SEA OR JERICHO OR MASADA
- 01:41 AND AS YOU DRIVE THERE'S SOME EMPTY LAND
- 01:44 BETWEEN THE LIMIT OF JERUSALEM AND THE START OF THE SETTLEMENT.
- 01:49 IT'S HIGH ON A MOUNTAIN AND THIS LAND IS UNUSED.
- 01:53 AND THE ISRAELIS PROPOSED TO PUT APARTMENTS ON THERE FOR 3500 PEOPLE
- 01:57 AND THE WHOLE WORLD, AS ALWAYS, BUT THE ARABS ESPECIALLY,
- 02:02 SCREAMING AND RAGING THAT THEY SHOULDN'T DO IT, IT'S NOT THEIR LAND, ITS ARAB LAND.
- 02:07 THIS IS THE WEST BANK, SO CALLED, IT'S JUDEA,
- 02:12 IT ALWAYS WAS JUDEA AND THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
- 02:18 RECENTLY CRITICIZED ISRAEL FOR PROPOSING TO PUT,
- 02:21 NOW THIS IS NOT A LOT OF APARTMENTS AND IT'S NOT,
- 02:24 BY THE WAY, THIS SETTLEMENT IS NOT A FEW TRAILERS ON A HILL.
- 02:27 ITS 30,000 PEOPLE, STONE BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH
- 02:30 AND THEY SAID WE WANT TO EXPAND A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AND THE REST OF JERUSALEM.
- 02:35 WHY DOES OUR GOVERNMENT OBJECT?
- 02:38 WHY? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
- 02:40 WHY IS THE WORLD OBSESSED WITH A BLOCK OR TWO OF ANY KIND IN THE JEWISH STATE?
- 02:46 WHY IS IT DIFFERENT FOR THE JEWISH STATE,
- 02:50 WHICH IS A SOVEREIGN NATION
- 02:52 THAN IT IS FOR ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD?
- 02:55 DO YOU EVER SEE THE UNITED STATES OR ANY OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD
- 02:58 GETTING INVOLVED AND DICTATING TO THOSE STATES WHAT PLACES THEY PUT WHERE?
- 03:04 WHAT KIND OF SKEWED SOCIETY IS THIS WE'RE LIVING IN?
- 03:09 THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
- 03:11 EZEKIEL 36 HAS ALWAYS APPEALED TO ME AS SORT OF BEING ABOUT THE WEST BANK
- 03:16 BECAUSE IT BEGINS, GOD TALKING OR THE ANGEL TO EZEKIEL
- 03:28 IT GOES ON TO THE MOUNTAINS AND THE RIVERS.
- 03:30 THAT'S ALL WHAT THE WORLD KNOWS AS THE WEST BANK, JUDEA AND SAMARIA,
- 03:34 THE CENTRAL SPINE OF THE COUNTRY, VERY MOUNTAINOUS, VERY GOOD LAND.
- 03:40 IT'S BEEN IN CONTENTION SINCE THE 6 DAY WAR, ANYHOW,
- 03:45 WHEN THE ISRAELIS TOOK IT AND THEY WERE ATTACKED AND THEY TOOK IT
- 03:52 AND THEY HAVE HELD IT AS A BUFFER AGAINST FURTHER ATTACKS FROM IRAQ, SYRIA, JORDAN,
- 03:56 THE ARAB NATIONS TO THEIR EAST AND THE SO CALLED PALESTINIANS
- 04:03 HAVE RAISED QUITE A FUSS ABOUT IT AND THAT'S THE BACKGROUND.
- 04:06 MAALE ADUMMIM IS RIGHT NEXT TO JERUSALEM AS I SAY, IT'S VERY--
- 04:11 YOU CAN THROW A STONE BACK AND FORTH AND IT HAPPENS TO BE OVER THE LINE,
- 04:16 SOMEBODY'S LINE THAT DESIGNATES THE WEST BANK AND THAT STARTS THE WHOLE CONTROVERSY.
- 04:22 WELL, THERE IS HERE IN ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM.
- 04:25 WHEN YOU SAY OVER THERE, YOU'RE SPEAKING OF HERE.
- 04:29 I ONCE MET WITH A WONDERFUL MAN WHO WAS THE FIRST AMBASSADOR FROM ISRAEL TO ENGLAND
- 04:36 AND HE WAS ONE OF THE, IT WAS ABRAHAM HARMON
- 04:41 I THINK IT WAS AVRAM HARMON IS THE WAY IT WAS PRONOUNCED,
- 04:44 BUT HE WAS THEN THE PRESIDENT OF HEBREW UNIVERSITY AND I MET HIM THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME
- 04:52 AND HE SAT ME DOWN AND I HAD AN INTERVIEW WITH HIM
- 04:56 AND I REMEMBER HIM SHOUTING IN THIS WONDERFUL VOICE,
- 05:01 "IT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD TO ME WHETHER HERE IS 6 FEET AWAY
- 05:09 OR HERE IS 60 FEET AWAY BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE HAVE OUR NECKS IN MIND."
- 05:16 PEOPLE ASK, WHY DIDN'T ARAFAT ACCEPT BARAK'S OFFER BACK AT CAMP DAVID?
- 05:22 HE COULD HAVE HAD 98% OR WHATEVER IT WAS, MOST OF WEST BANK, EAST JERUSALEM, GAZA,
- 05:29 A HUGE PALESTINIAN COUNTRY AND THE ANSWER I THINK WAS BECAUSE HE WASN'T AFTER A COUNTRY,
- 05:37 HE WASN'T TRYING TO GET PEACE AND HE WASN'T TRYING TO GET A NATION,
- 05:40 HE WAS TRYING TO KILL THE JEWS.
- 05:42 I WANT TO READ THIS TO YOU, YOU LEAD RIGHT INTO IT.
- 05:45 I WAS LOOKING AT THIS WHEN I CAME HERE ON THE PLANE.
- 05:48 WHAT SOURCE IS IT?
- 05:49 THIS IS MY BOOK, "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL".
- 05:52 WHAT STRUCK ME AS UNCANNY IS THAT WE'VE LEARNED NOTHING IN SO MANY DECADES.
- 06:02 IN 1974 THE LEADER OF THE PLO, ZUHEIR MUHSEIN WAS HIS NAME SAID, I'M QUOTING,
- 06:28 IT HASN'T CHANGED ONE IOTA.
- 06:30 THIS STRUGGLE AGAINST ISRAEL, WHY, WHEN THEY'RE THE BEST-OFF ARABS IN THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST
- 06:38 BECAUSE THEY LIVE NEXT TO A DEMOCRACY, WHY DON'T THEY JUST COOPERATE?
- 06:44 SOMEBODY SAID WITH ARAB MONEY AND JEWISH BRAINS, THE MIDDLE EAST COULD BE PARADISE.
- 06:50 YES.
- 06:52 BUT THEY'RE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE ABSOLUTE HATRED OF THE MUSLIM WORLD
- 06:58 AND THE ARAB WORLD IN PARTICULAR TOWARD ANY ENTITY THAT IS NOT MUSLIM, THAT IS NOT MUSLIM-ARAB.
- 07:05 WE'RE INCLUDED, AMERICA IS INCLUDED ISN'T IT.
- 07:08 I REMEMBER VERY WELL WHEN I WAS TAKEN BY A SHEIK IN GAZA MANY YEARS AGO
- 07:13 WHO SAID WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE LAND FROM HERE TO THE ATLANTIC OCEAN.
- 07:20 THE BOUNDARIES ARE ALL ILLEGAL.
- 07:22 WE WILL QUASH THOSE BOUNDARIES.
- 07:26 THAT WILL ALL BE MUSLIM TERRITORY.
- 07:29 THAT WAS HIS PREDICTION.
- 07:33 NOW WE'VE GOT 10% ALREADY IN FRANCE OF MUSLIMS.
- 07:37 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, I THINK 7% IN GREAT BRITAIN.
- 07:40 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY- AND IT DOESN'T TAKE A BIG PERCENTAGE TO TURN A COUNTRY AROUND
- 07:45 BECAUSE EACH ONE IS SO INDIGNANT AND NOISY AND PROTESTING
- 07:48 AND PICKETING AND EVEN KILLING PEOPLE AND THREATENING PEOPLE
- 07:53 AND AMERICA ALSO IS BEING TAKEN OVER AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.
- 07:57 I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT BUT THIS IS AN INSIDIOUS ENEMY,
- 08:03 WHICH IS SEEMING LIKE IT'S TAKING OVER EUROPE AND WE'RE NEXT ON THE LIST.
- 08:07 WHEN YOU ARE QUESTIONED ABOUT THIS,
- 08:10 WHEN YOU ARE ATTACKED BECAUSE YOU ARE SO PASSIONATELY FOR ISRAEL,
- 08:16 WHAT DO THEY REGARD YOU AS?
- 08:22 ARE YOU A ZIONIST? ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?
- 08:26 ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN ZIONIST? WHAT DO THEY MAKE OF YOU?
- 08:32 WELL, I ALWAYS SAY I HAVE THREE KIND OF ENEMIES OUT THERE, JEWS, CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS.
- 08:37 I'M TOO CHRISTIAN FOR THE JEWS. I'M TOO JEWISH FOR THE CHRISTIANS.
- 08:42 I'M TOO PRO-ISRAEL FOR THE MUSLIMS AND TOO JEWISH AND TOO CHRISTIAN.
- 08:48 I CAN BE HATED 3 WAYS.
- 08:48 THEY HAVE TO SLOT YOU SOMEWHERE.
- 08:50 JOAN, I SPEAK UP AND THAT'S THE WAY GOD LEADS ME.
- 08:53 I REALLY DON'T HAVE HOSTILITY IN MY HEART FOR ANYONE, I REALLY DON'T.
- 08:57 I HAVE DEALT WITH MUSLIM PEOPLE IN THIS MINISTRY.
- 09:01 WE HAVE SENT TOURS TO EGYPT AND TURKEY AND JORDAN
- 09:04 AND DEALT WITH TRAVEL PEOPLE WHO ARE A FRATERNITY,
- 09:09 WHO HAVE TO MOVE PEOPLE FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY AND COOPERATE.
- 09:12 I HAVE STOOD ON A 20,000 TON GREEK VESSEL WHILE AN EGYPTIAN PILOT DOCKED IT IN ALEXANDRIA
- 09:20 AND EVEN IN TURKEY WHERE THERE'S NO LOVE LOST BETWEEN TURKS AND GREEKS
- 09:26 AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TREATED WITH COURTESY, NOT WARMTH, BUT COURTESY
- 09:34 AND BUSINESS PRACTICES WERE EQUITABLE AND SO ON.
- 09:36 WITH ALL THAT SAID, I THINK IT'S ONLY A TINY MINORITY UP AT THE FRINGE ON THE TOP
- 09:42 LIKE ICING ON A CAKE THAT IS JUST EXPORTING ALL THIS HATRED
- 09:46 AND TURNING WHOLE COUNTRIES AROUND AND UPSIDE DOWN.
- 09:50 IT'S NOT THE EVERYDAY PEOPLE IN THE MOSQUE,
- 09:53 BUT IT'S THE WAHABISM, THE RADICAL SECT COMING OUT OF SAUDI ARABIA.
- 09:59 IT'S THE LOONIES, THE INSURGENTS IN IRAQ.
- 10:03 THEY GET ALL THE HEADLINES, THEY DO ALL THE KILLING
- 10:05 AND IN SOME WAYS I THINK A HUGE SOCIETY OF MUSLIMS WHO MEAN NOBODY ANY HARM.
- 10:13 ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
- 10:15 WELL, I'M NOT CERTAIN, BUT I WANT TO SAY THE BEST I CAN.
- 10:17 THERE WAS AN ELECTION IN ENGLAND RECENTLY
- 10:20 THAT SHOWED THAT THE MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS WAS CRUDELY ANTI-SEMITIC
- 10:25 AND PASSIONATELY ANTI-SEMITIC
- 10:27 AND THERE HAVE BEEN AWFUL THINGS HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD,
- 10:33 NOT FROM A FEW LUNATICS ON THE FRINGE, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN THINGS LIKE BRASILIA.
- 10:39 THERE HAS JUST BEEN NOW AN ELECTION TO EJECT ISRAEL FROM THE HUMAN COMMUNITY,
- 10:45 WHICH WAS A COLLECTION OF ALL THE NATIONS IN BRASILIA.
- 10:51 THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON AND THEY HAVE EJECTED HAIFA UNIVERSITY FROM THE ASSOCIATION,
- 10:59 NOT JUST BRITAIN, BUT THE ASSOCIATION OF A.U.T.
- 11:04 THE ASSOCIATION OF, IT'S IN THE UNITED KINGDOM AND THEY ALSO,
- 11:09 SEVERAL UNIVERSITIES IN ISRAEL THAT COULD TEACH THEM QUITE A LOT.
- 11:14 BUT, HAIFA UNIVERSITY HAS BEEN FORMALLY EJECTED FROM THAT BODY AS SOME KIND OF RACIST--
- 11:22 BUT THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY, I'M NOT ARGUING THAT THE MUSLIMS DON'T HATE THE JEWS,
- 11:28 THEY DO AND JUST ALWAYS HAVE, BUT THESE ARE ORDINARY BRITISH PROFESSORS
- 11:35 THAT ARE BACKING THIS THING, AS WELL.
- 11:38 WHY ARE THEY DOING IT?
- 11:39 THEY ARE DOING IT BECAUSE IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO DO THAT
- 11:41 AND NOT ACCEPTABLE TO EMBRACE THE JEWS OR THE JEWISH PROFESSORS.
- 11:46 THEY HAVE KICKED OUT--
- 11:47 I HAVE FRIENDS IN ISRAEL WHO HAVE THE GREATEST EXPERTISE IN THE WORLD
- 11:52 IN THEIR PARTICULAR FIELD, THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ADHERING TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS
- 11:57 AND THEY'VE BEEN SOUGHT AFTER ALL OVER THE WORLD FOR CONFERENCES AND CONSULTATION
- 12:02 AND AS CONSULTANTS THEY HAVE BEEN SUMMARILY EJECTED FROM CONFERENCES
- 12:07 BECAUSE OF BEING JEWISH OR BEING FROM ISRAEL.
- 12:10 WE RAN AN ARTICLE ONCE IN THE LEVITT LETTER SAYING,
- 12:13 LOOK IF YOU DON'T LIKE JEWS, THEN DON'T USE JEWISH PRODUCTS.
- 12:15 DON'T GET A POLIO SHOT. DON'T USE A CELL PHONE.
- 12:19 DON'T USE THESE UMPTEEN COMPUTER PROGRAMS, I MEAN HUNDREDS OF THINGS.
- 12:25 DON'T TAKE PHARMACEUTICALS. DON'T TAKE CONTAC, IT'S AN ISRAELI MEDICINE.
- 12:28 I LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENE.
- 12:32 THE ISRAELIS INVENT SOME OF THE BEST PRODUCTS IN THE WORLD BUT THEY DON'T WANT CREDIT.
- 12:36 THEY DON'T WANT TO BE NOTICED.
- 12:39 THEY DON'T WANT TO BE SINGLED OUT FOR ANYTHING, NOT EVEN HONORS.
- 12:42 I CAN SEE WHY.
- 12:44 THEY'VE WON 20% OF THE NOBEL PRIZES AND THEY ARE 1000TH OF THE WORLD POPULATION.
- 12:48 YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT.
- 12:52 LOOK WE HAVE TO GO TO A BREAK.
- 12:53 WE GO INTO OUR TOUR SPOT SO YOU GET A LOOK AT ISRAEL THE WAY WE SEE IT
- 12:57 AND I'LL BE BACK WITH JOAN PETERS RIGHT AFTER THIS.
- 13:07 ASK FOR OUR FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER
- 13:11 AND OUR CATALOG WITH VIDEOS, BOOKS AND MUSIC.
- 13:15 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, THE INSTITUTE OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES INCLUDES
- 13:20 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL IN TESTS.
- 13:24 DID YOU KNOW THAT ZOLA TAKES TOURS TO ISRAEL, GREECE
- 13:28 AND THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE THEME PARK IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA?
- 13:31 PLEASE CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
- 13:37 ♪ FOLLOW ME TO GALILEE.
- 13:39 AND JESUS SAID UNTO THEM, DO NOT BE AFRAID, GO TELL MY BRETHREN TO GO INTO GALILEE,
- 13:45 THERE THEY WILL SEE.
- 13:48 IT STRENGTHENS OUR FAITH TO KNOW THAT JESUS WALKED ON THE WATER
- 13:53 AND THAT WE CAN CALL OUT TO HIM.
- 13:55 IT MAKES THE WHOLE SCRIPTURES COME TO LIFE.
- 14:08 WHEN WE DO GO OVER TO ISRAEL, OUR TOURISTS ARE FASCINATED
- 14:13 WITH THE VARIETY OF PEOPLE THAT THEY SEE, BLACK PEOPLE FROM ETHIOPIA,
- 14:18 KOREANS, SOUTH AMERICANS, ARABS WHO HAVE COME INTO THE LAND AND ARE COOPERATIVE WITH ISRAEL.
- 14:28 IT'S SUCH A, WELL ZIONISM IS THE OPPOSITE OF RACISM.
- 14:34 IT'S THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT TAKES PEOPLE OF ALL RACES WITH NO QUESTIONS
- 14:38 THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT WENT TO AFRICA AND BROUGHT BLACK PEOPLE BACK,
- 14:42 NOT AS SERVANTS, BUT AS FIRST CLASS CITIZENS.
- 14:45 THE JEWS HAVE WHAT IS CALLED "A RIGHT OF RETURN",
- 14:50 OBVIOUSLY IT'S THEIR LAND AND FOR 4000 YEARS IT'S THEIR LAND.
- 14:55 BUT, THE PALESTINIANS COPIED THESE VERY WORDS, "RIGHT OF RETURN"
- 14:59 AND JOAN PETERS, THEY SAY, WELL, WE WANT A RIGHT TO RETURN AND THEY WANT TO BRING MILLIONS.
- 15:06 THAT IS ANOTHER WAY TO CIRCUMVENT-
- 15:08 OH SURE, THEY OVERRUN THE COUNTRY WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE
- 15:12 WHO NEVER SAW THE SIGHT OF THE LAND BEFORE AND HAVE NO HISTORY OF IT,
- 15:16 BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE STORY, "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL".
- 15:21 YOUR BOOK TITLE,
- 15:23 YES, BUT CERTAINLY THE TIME FROM TIME LONG BEFORE THE WWII
- 15:31 THERE WAS A JEWISH STATE.
- 15:33 THERE WAS NEVER AN ARAB STATE AND THERE WAS NEVER A PALESTINIAN STATE.
- 15:38 THERE WAS NEVER A PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
- 15:40 WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY HAVE SIMPLY TAKEN OVER THE LEXICON OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE
- 15:47 AND THEIR CRUEL HISTORY.
- 15:49 THEY HAVE LITERALLY TRIED TO USURP THE HISTORY,
- 15:54 THEY'VE TURNED IT ON ITS HEAD AND THEY SAY
- 15:56 THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO RETURN TO THE JEW'S LAND.
- 16:00 THEY HAVE A DIASPORA, WHICH IS WHERE THE SO-CALLED ARAB REFUGEES WENT
- 16:07 WHEN THEY WERE FORCED TO FLEE FROM THE IMAGINARY LAND OF PALESTINE,
- 16:13 WHICH NEVER EXISTED FOR THEM.
- 16:15 THEY HAVE ALL SORTS OF,
- 16:18 AT THIS POINT I THINK MAYBE FOR SOME OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE PALESTINIAN REFUGEE CAMPS,
- 16:25 I THINK THERE IS A REAL MISGUIDED NOTION.
- 16:29 I DON'T THINK FOR THEM IT IS A LIE.
- 16:32 I THINK THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN USURPED, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TAUGHT TO HATE,
- 16:37 THEY HAVE BEEN BRED TO HATE.
- 16:40 THEY HAVE TURNED, LITTLE TINY KIDS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO HUMAN BOMBS.
- 16:45 THAT HAS TO BE SEEN, IT HAS TO BE UNDERSTOOD,
- 16:50 IT HAS TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY
- 16:54 IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE ANOTHER COMPLETE DISASTER.
- 17:01 WHAT CAN I SAY?
- 17:04 IT'LL EXPLODE, ZOLA, LIKE IRAN EXPLODED.
- 17:08 WELL, ARMAGEDDON IS PROPHESIED IN SCRIPTURE
- 17:12 AND I'M BEGINNING TO THINK IT'S LARGELY A MUSLIM ATTACK ON THE HOLY LAND.
- 17:16 WELL, IT'S NOT JUST THE HOLY LAND, THERE'S A MUSLIM ATTACK ON THE CHRISTIAN WORLD.
- 17:20 BECAUSE THE MUSLIMS DON'T, THE JEWS ARE REALLY SECONDARY IN THIS.
- 17:24 THEY REALLY ARE.
- 17:26 THE CRUSADES, AFTER ALL, WERE BETWEEN THE MUSLIMS AND THE CHRISTIANS.
- 17:29 THAT'S RIGHT.
- 17:30 AND THERE'S THAT FAMOUS BILLBOARD, I SAW IT MYSELF IN RAMALLAH,
- 17:33 "FIRST THE SATURDAY PEOPLE, THEN THE SUNDAY PEOPLE".
- 17:36 CHRISTIANS AREN'T GETTING OFF THE HOOK.
- 17:38 WELL, THE SATURDAY PEOPLE ARE REALLY VERY SLIGHT, THEY'RE ONLY,
- 17:41 THEY HAPPEN TO BE THERE, THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE HAD THE LAND,
- 17:45 BUT THE CHRISTIANS ARE ALL OVER THE WORLD
- 17:48 AND THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO BE ERADICATED BEFORE THE MUSLIMS CAN TAKE OVER.
- 17:52 WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF 100,000 JEWISH CITIZENS,
- 17:55 WHO COME FROM MOROCCO, LIBYA, EGYPT, IRAQ, IRAN DECIDED THEY WANT TO DEMAND A RIGHT OF RETURN
- 18:04 TO WHERE THEIR FAMILY WAS FOR CENTURIES?
- 18:06 CAN YOU IMAGINE ANY ONE PERSON EVER BEING ABLE TO IMMIGRATE TO AN ARAB COUNTRY, A JEW?
- 18:15 THE JEWS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO, THE FEW JEWS THAT ARE IN THE ARAB WORLD ARE REMNANTS
- 18:20 AND THEY'RE AGED AND THEY'VE BEEN BADLY TREATED AND MOST OF THEM ESCAPED OR WERE MURDERED
- 18:26 AT THE TIME OF THE '48 WAR, AND THE EVENT OF THE COMING OF A NEW STATE,
- 18:34 THE JEWISH STATE OR THE CONTINUATION OF THE JEWISH STATE IN 1948.
- 18:39 THE UNITED NATIONS, JUST TO TAKE YOU TO THAT SUBJECT,
- 18:44 SEEMS TO BE WHAT JEAN KIRKPATRICK CALLED IT ON OUR PROGRAM YEARS AGO,
- 18:52 UST A FORM OF A BUNCH OF THE WORLD'S DICTATORS.
- 18:55 WELL, THAT'S WHAT BOLTON SAYS, TOO, THE NEW PROPOSED AMBASSADOR TO THE U.N.
- 19:01 I THINK HE WOULD BE THE MOST REFRESHING THING THAT COULD HAPPEN TO THE UNITED NATIONS.
- 19:05 WHEN YOU THINK OF HOW MUCH GOOD BOLTON COULD DO AT THE,
- 19:10 IF HE'S OPERATING AT THE U.N. IT WOULD REMARKABLE.
- 19:14 JUST THINK, FOR A CHANGE, ALL THE VOTES WOULDN'T BE ANTI-AMERICAN.
- 19:18 ALL THE VOTES WOULDN'T BE ANTI-ISRAEL.
- 19:20 ISRAEL MIGHT EVEN GET INTO THE SECURITY COUNCIL,
- 19:22 WHICH IS A PLACE WHERE ALL THE WORLD'S MOST AVID DICTATORS AND LUDICRATS
- 19:29 HAVE BEEN OPERATING WITH IMPUNITY FOR DECADES, BUT THEY'VE NEVER LET ISRAEL IN.
- 19:34 IT'S REMARKABLE THE TALENT THEY SKIP OVER.
- 19:39 ISRAEL HAS A LOT TO LEND THIS WORLD.
- 19:42 WELL, AND BOLTON ALSO WAS RESPONSIBLE,
- 19:45 AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THEY'RE SO AGAINST HIM,
- 19:49 MANY OF THEM ARE SO AGAINST HIM IS THAT HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING
- 19:53 "ZIONISM IS RACISM" REMOVED FROM THE DOCKET AT THE U.N.
- 19:57 IT'S SUCH AN INSANE THING.
- 20:00 I DON'T KNOW HOW EVEN SOMEBODY WHO HATES ISRAEL
- 20:03 CAN VOTE FOR SUCH A RIDICULOUS, I MEAN IT'S PATENT.
- 20:06 THEY DO IT EVERY DAY.
- 20:08 EVERY DAY THEY DO SOMETHING JUST AS RIDICULOUS.
- 20:11 I KNOW THEY DO.
- 20:12 HERE THEY ARE, CAUGHT AND SURPRISED BY,
- 20:14 LET ME TAKE YOU TO SYRIA AND LEBANON WHERE YOU HAVE VISITED,
- 20:18 AND THEY DIDN'T ENGINEER IT, BUT, SUDDENLY THE LEBANESE GET UP AND TELL THE SYRIANS
- 20:24 THEY'VE GOT TO GET GOING AND THEY ASSASSINATE ONE TOO MANY CHARACTERS
- 20:29 AND THEY KILLED MANY PEOPLE, OF COURSE.
- 20:32 HOW DO YOU THINK THE SYRIANS GOT THERE?
- 20:35 YOU KNOW WHO LET THEM STAY THERE, WE DID, THE UNITED STATES.
- 20:40 WELL, THAT WAS BRILLIANT.
- 20:41 THAT'S RIGHT, IN THE 80s.
- 20:43 NOW WE'RE HAVING A FIGHT ON THE BORDER WITH IRAQ.
- 20:46 EXACTLY.
- 20:48 WE HAVE A LOT OF SOIL, SOOT ON OUR HANDS AND WE HAVE A LOT TO CONTEND WITH
- 20:55 FOR THE BEHAVIOR THAT WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH FOR A LONG TIME.
- 20:59 THE MAIN THING IS THESE RELATIONS WITH THESE OBNOXIOUS,
- 21:04 I MEAN SYRIA IS A VERY PRIMITIVE AND BACKWARD DICTATORSHIP
- 21:08 AND WARREN CHRISTOPHER USED TO GO IN THERE WHEN HE WAS SECRETARY OF STATE
- 21:12 AND BOW IN THE THRONE ROOM OF HAFIZ AL-ASAD, THE OLD DICTATOR.
- 21:16 THEY WERE GETTING THE SOLDIERS TO BITE THE NECKS OF SNAKES
- 21:20 TO TRAIN THEM TO BECOME FEROCIOUS SOLDIERS.
- 21:23 WHAT CAN YOU PUT PAST THE SYRIANS?
- 21:25 NOW THEY'RE DEMANDING, AS USUAL, THE GOLAN HEIGHTS.
- 21:29 THIS IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD.
- 21:31 THIS IS A HUGE AREA NORTH OF THE SEA OF GALILEE,
- 21:34 REACHING UP INTO SYRIA RIGHT AGAINST LEBANON.
- 21:37 IN FACT, AGAINST JORDAN.
- 21:40 THERE'S PLACES THERE YOU CAN SEE THE 3 COUNTRIES
- 21:42 AND IT WOULD BE TERRIBLE TO GIVE IT BACK BECAUSE,
- 21:48 GIVE IT AWAY, I SHOULD SAY BECAUSE, FIRST OFF, IT'S JEWISH LAND.
- 21:53 THERE'S NO QUESTION.
- 21:54 IT WAS JEWISH LAND 2000 YEARS BEFORE THE FIRST, SO-CALLED SYRIAN WALKED THE EARTH.
- 21:59 IT'S TERRIBLE BECAUSE IT OVERSEES THE SEA OF GALILEE
- 22:04 AND THE VILLAGES AND THE CITY OF TIBERIUS, WHICH THEY USED TO SHELL, PRACTICALLY FOR SPORT.
- 22:10 WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THE GOLAN HEIGHTS?
- 22:13 WELL, WHEN HAS ANY COUNTRY IN HISTORY EVER BEEN ASKED TO RETURN LAND
- 22:20 WHICH WAS RETRIEVED BY THE ISRAELIS IN THIS CASE,
- 22:24 AFTER HAVING BEEN ATTACKED BY SYRIA, SECRETLY AND HAVING WON THIS IN A LEGITIMATE BATTLE.
- 22:32 WHEN HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED IN HISTORY?
- 22:35 I ALWAYS SAY IN THE CHURCHES, IF LAND DOESN'T GO TO THE ONE WHO WON IT IN A CONFLICT,
- 22:40 THEN WE, WHITE, BLACK, ETC, AMERICANS HAD BETTER START PACKING.
- 22:45 THE ONLY RIGHT WE HAVE TO THIS CONTINENT IS AN ARMY THAT CAME BEFORE US
- 22:48 AND THEY WON A FIGHT FAIR OR FOUL AND TOOK THE PLACE.
- 22:51 EVEN THE WORLD COURT DID IT IN WWII, GAVE DANZIG TO THE POLES
- 22:58 BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BE POLISH.
- 23:00 THEY WERE BETWEEN POLAND AND GERMANY AND THE WAR RAGED ALL AROUND THEM
- 23:04 AND AT THE END THEY WANTED TO BE ON THE WINNING SIDE.
- 23:06 THIS A PRECURSOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS, THIS WORLD COURT RULED,
- 23:11 YES, LAND GOES TO THE MOST RECENT CONQUEROR.
- 23:16 OF COURSE.
- 23:17 BUT, WHY DOES IT NOT WORK IN THE GOLAN OR THE WEST BANK?
- 23:19 WHY DOESN'T IT?
- 23:21 YOU KNOW, I THINK THE WORLD IS A VERY SPURIOUS PLACE
- 23:24 WHERE THERE'S ONE SET OF RULES FOR THE JEWISH STATE
- 23:28 AND ANOTHER SET OF RULES FOR ALL OTHER STATES
- 23:30 AND I BELIEVE THAT I'M NOT BEING CLEVER TO SAY THAT.
- 23:34 I'M NOT BEING SARCASTIC.
- 23:37 I BELIEVE IT IS A FACT AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED
- 23:41 BUT IT CAN'T BE CORRECTED AS LONG AS PRESIDENT BUSH CONTINUES TO PUSH FOR A PEACE PLAN
- 23:47 THAT HAS BEEN ABROGATED BY THE ARABS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING
- 23:52 AND THAT HAS BEEN OBSERVED BY THE ARABS ONLY IN THE BREECH
- 23:58 WHILE ISRAEL HAS BEEN ADHERING TO IT STRICTLY.
- 24:01 THAT SIMPLY CAN'T WASH AND IT HAS TO BE THE ISRAELIS WHO SAY "STOP".
- 24:07 AND THEN ONCE THE ISRAELIS SAY "STOP", THEN THE AMERICANS WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW SUIT
- 24:12 BECAUSE IT WAS THE ISRAELIS WHO FORCED, WHEN PERES MET WITH ARAFAT IN PARIS,
- 24:20 THEY FORCED THE UNITED STATES TO RECOGNIZE THE PLO BECAUSE THEY HAD DONE IT FIRST.
- 24:26 PUT THAT ONE IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT.
- 24:30 IT DOESN'T SMOKE VERY GOOD.
- 24:32 WHY DO YOU THINK THAT HAPPENED?
- 24:34 I'M TURNING THE TABLES ON YOU AND ASKING YOU A QUESTION.
- 24:38 WELL, THE HOLOCAUST MENTALITY.
- 24:40 WE MENTIONED IT OFF CAMERA, BUT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
- 24:43 BEGIN TO BELIEVE THE LIES ABOUT THEMSELVES AND THEY MARCH TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
- 24:48 THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.
- 24:50 ARTHUR MILLER WROTE ABOUT THAT VERY THING IN THE "INCIDENT AT VICHY".
- 24:54 HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT VERY THING.
- 24:56 THE JEWS NEVER RESISTED.
- 24:58 THEY BELIEVE, THEY BEGAN TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE GUILTY OF A CRIME THEY NEVER COMMITTED.
- 25:03 I SHOULDN'T LUMP THEM IN BECAUSE THE COURAGEOUS DEFENDERS OF THE WARSAW GHETTO DID RESIST.
- 25:09 YES.
- 25:11 IT WAS A HOPELESS RESISTANCE, BUT THEY RESISTED BEING TAKEN OFF THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
- 25:17 BUT, ISRAEL, THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR, AS WHY,
- 25:21 WHEN THEY'RE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE, WHY THEY ARE A POWERFUL SOVEREIGN NATION.
- 25:24 WHAT ARE THEY CHOSEN FOR?
- 25:25 WHY THEY DON'T SHOW MORE FIGHT?
- 25:28 WHY THEY DON'T DIG IN AND SAY, NO, IT WON'T HAPPEN, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
- 25:32 THEY DID FOR A TIME. THEY DID DURING THE 6 DAY WAR.
- 25:36 THEY WON THE 6 DAY WAR AND THEY WERE THE GREAT HEROES OF THE WORLD,
- 25:40 WAS THE ONLY TIME THAT THEY DID SOMETHING THAT NOBODY TOLD THEM TO
- 25:44 AND NOBODY GAVE THEM PERMISSION TO DO AND THEY WON AND THEY WERE BRAVE
- 25:48 AND THEY WERE COURAGEOUS AND THEY THE WORLD'S GREAT WARRIOR.
- 25:52 IT SEEMS TO HAVE LOST, SOMEHOW IT LOST ITS DURABILITY.
- 25:59 ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A BOOK BY A MEMBER OF THE KNESSET,
- 26:03 RABBI BENYAMIN ELON, WHO WAS THE MINISTER OF TOURISM.
- 26:09 I KNOW WHO HE IS AND ON THE BACK COVER HE PUTS THE SCRIPTURE FROM EZEKIEL 8:16
- 26:32 JOAN, THANKS FOR APPEARING WITH US AGAIN.
- 26:34 I'M AFRAID THE SECOND SHOW IS OVER.
- 26:35 THEY GO OVER TO WHEN I TALK TO YOU.
- 26:37 THEY SURE DO.
- 26:39 I APPRECIATE YOU'RE COMING ALL THIS WAY AND TALK TO OUR PEOPLE.
- 26:42 WELL, I JUST HOPE THAT THEY READ THIS BECAUSE,
- 26:44 "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL".
- 26:47 I GOT TO GET OFF THE AIR.
- 26:48 WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS KNOW THE HISTORY.
- 26:53 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.
Episodes in this series
- Academic Terrorism with Joan Peters, Part 1
- Academic Terrorism with Joan Peters, Part 2
- Guest: Benny Elon (Knesset member)
- The March
- Counter Terrorism
- Biblical Heartland
- The Hill of Evil Council with Tom McCall
- Trials and Tribulations with Tom McCall
- Hated of All Nations with Tommy Ice
- Truth be Told with Tommy Ice
- Israel: Who Owns the Land?
- Israel and Prophecy with Tommy Ice

