Caption transcript for The Crusaders: “A Clash of Civilizations” (6/8)

• 00:10 IN 1095 POPE URBAN THE SECOND DECREED THAT THE CENTER OF THE KNOWN WORLD, JERUSALEM,
• 00:16 SHOULD BE FREED FROM MUSLIM CONTROL.
• 00:20 SPURRED BY RELIGIOUS FERVOR, WARRIORS MARCHED UNABATED ACROSS EUROPE TOWARDS THE HOLY LAND,
• 00:25 LEAVING DEATH AND DEVASTATION IN THEIR WAKE.
• 00:28 IN THE END, UPWARDS OF 30,000 MUSLIMS AND JEWS WERE MASSACRED IN JERUSALEM ALONE.
• 00:35 THIS WAS CALLED "A HOLY WAR". THESE WERE THE CRUSADERS.
• 00:46 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
• 00:47 WELCOME BACK TO OUR SERIES ON THE CRUSADERS.
• 00:50 ON THIS PROGRAM WE'LL TALK WITH MARTY COHEN, A MESSIANIC PASTOR IN ISRAEL.
• 00:55 PEOPLE ASK ABOUT THE ISRAELI BELIEVERS, WELL, HE'S GOT A CONGREGATION.
• 01:00 HE'S ALSO A HISTORIAN.
• 01:01 HE'S KNOWLEDGEABLE ON THE CRUSADERS
• 01:06 AND THEN WE'LL TALK TO GERALD SCHROEDER WHO'S BEEN WITH US BEFORE, A SCIENTIST,
• 01:10 BUT, HE'S NOT GOING TO TALK ON SCIENCE THIS TIME BUT ON POLITICS.
• 01:14 HE'S PRETTY GOOD ON THAT, TOO.
• 01:15 HE LIVES IN JERUSALEM EVERY DAY AND HAS FOR 30 YEARS OR SO.
• 01:19 BUT, FIRST WE'LL GO TO A NEW SCALE MODEL OF THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM.
• 01:23 I THINK YOU'LL LIKE THIS. NOW, TO LOCATION.
• 01:26 THIS IS THE SOUTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
• 01:30 WE'RE GOING TO WALK AROUND THIS TEMPLE MOUNT IN THIS MODEL AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SPOT.
• 01:35 IT'S ALMOST WHERE THE GOSPEL STARTS, THAT IS,
• 01:37 THE DEVIL IS TEMPTING JESUS TO THROW HIMSELF OFF HERE.
• 01:42 IT MUST BE 200 FEET ON DOWN TO STONE AND JESUS, OF COURSE,
• 01:48 ANSWERS THE DEVIL AND BEHIND ME THE MOUNT OF OLIVES
• 01:52 WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE CHURCH OF ALL NATIONS
• 01:56 AND BESIDE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE WOULD BE THE GARDEN OF GETHSEMANE.
• 02:00 YOU SEE PLENTY OF OLIVE TREES, A RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH IS HALF WAY UP THE MOUNT OF OLIVES,
• 02:06 OF COURSE, A LOT OF OLIVE TREES.
• 02:08 YOU HEAR A DONKEY BRAYING.
• 02:10 THERE'S REAL SOUNDS OF JERUSALEM HERE.
• 02:12 THE STEADY NOISE IN THE BACKGROUND IS THE PRAYER COMING FROM THE WESTERN WALL
• 02:16 WE'RE GOING TO SEE AS WE GO AROUND.
• 02:18 HERE WE HAVE THE AREA OF THE WALL WHICH, BY THE WAY,
• 02:23 IS WHERE THE BULGE IS OCCURRING THESE DAYS
• 02:26 AND THE AREA WHERE THE PALESTINIANS HAVE DUG UNDER THE PLATFORM ON THE TOP,
• 02:32 SORT OF BEHIND THIS AREA TO PUT IN A NEW MOSQUE IN WHAT WAS SOLOMON'S STABLES,
• 02:39 A LARGE HOLLOW AREA UNDER THE PLATFORM ON TOP AND, OF COURSE,
• 02:43 APPARENTLY WEAKENED THE WALL AT THAT POINT AND THAT IS AN ISSUE THESE DAYS.
• 02:48 WE HAVE VARIOUS ARCHES AND GATES AND WE'LL LOOK AT MORE
• 02:51 AS WE GO ALONG THE SOUTHERN WALL OF THE TEMPLE.
• 02:54 NOW, THE SOUTHERN WALL OF THE TEMPLE IS VERY AUTHENTIC.
• 02:58 THIS STAIRCASE WHICH HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT RESTORED
• 03:01 IS THE ONE USED BY THE POOR PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THE TEMPLE.
• 03:05 JESUS AND HIS MEN WERE AMONG THOSE.
• 03:07 THEY WENT UP THE STEPS, THE MIKVAHOTE,
• 03:10 THERE ARE PLACES IN THE-- THERE WERE THEN
• 03:13 OF RITUAL BATHS WHERE THEY COULD DIP THEMSELVES BEFORE GOING INTO WORSHIP
• 03:19 SIMILAR TO A CHRISTIAN BAPTISM AND THEN THEY WOULD ENTER THE TEMPLE
• 03:24 THROUGH GATES THAT WERE THEN IN THE WALL.
• 03:27 THEY'RE NOT NOW AND THIS IS THE MODERN VERSION THAT WE HAVE PICTURED HERE.
• 03:31 THE DIGS, THE ARCHEOLOGICAL DIGS BEHIND ME HERE,
• 03:35 ARE HOUSES AND BUILDINGS FROM TIME OF THE KINGS.
• 03:39 THEY SAY THE JAIL OF JEREMIAH WAS AMONG THESE BUILDINGS.
• 03:44 THE ARCHEOLOGY IS QUITE EXTENSIVE.
• 03:47 YOU CAN MAKE OUT THE HULDA GATES HERE,
• 03:49 THREE GATES WHICH FIGURE INTO THE STORY IN ACTS 2 OF PENTECOST.
• 03:55 I BELIEVE THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT CAME TO SOLOMON'S PORTICO,
• 03:59 WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE THIS WALL ALONG THE TOP,
• 04:03 THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE MET WHEN THEY CAME TO THE TEMPLE.
• 04:05 THE HOLY SPIRIT CAME ON THEM THERE.
• 04:08 PETER SAID, REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED EVERYONE OF YOU FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS
• 04:12 AND THEY CAME OUT OF THE HULDA GATES, BACK AROUND,
• 04:18 UP THE STAIRS AGAIN, TAKING ANOTHER MIKVAH,
• 04:20 BUT THIS TIME IT'S A BAPTISM FOR BELIEF IN THE MESSIAH AND REENTER THE TEMPLE.
• 04:26 THEY WOULD BE SAFE ON THAT DAY OF PENTECOST BECAUSE THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE,
• 04:31 WORSHIPERS HERE AND ALTHOUGH THEY WERE SOUGHT AFTER, THEY WERE WANTED MEN,
• 04:35 THEY COULD MELT INTO THE CROWD IN THAT MANNER AND SO COULD THE 3000 WHO WERE BAPTIZED.
• 04:40 NOW, WE'LL MOVE ALONG THE SOUTHERN WALL TO THE CORNER OF THE WESTERN WALL.
• 04:45 NOW AS WE MOVE TO THE SOUTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
• 04:50 WE SEE A CLEAR VIEW OF THE AL AQSA MOSQUE, THIS LARGE MOSQUE.
• 04:54 IT'S IN THE NEWS ALL THE TIME.
• 04:56 IT IS THE MOSQUE WHERE ARIEL SHARON VISITED
• 04:59 AND WAS REPUTEDLY THE START OF THE PRESENT INTIFADA,
• 05:03 ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT SAID MUCH ANYMORE.
• 05:05 IT'S A PLACE OF ARAB WORSHIP EVERY FRIDAY MORNING, THEIR SERVICES
• 05:10 AND SOMETIMES SOME ACTION AND PROBLEMS AFTER THOSE SERVICES.
• 05:13 AS WE MOVE DOWN THE WALL, WE SEE ARCHEOLOGY FROM BYZANTINE TIMES,
• 05:20 IT'S SORT OF REPRESENTED, BUT THERE WERE HOMES OF CHRISTIAN PEOPLE,
• 05:24 GIVE OR TAKE 300, 6-7-800 A.D. WHO LIVED AROUND THE TEMPLE
• 05:31 AND CELEBRATED THE IDEA THAT JESUS WAS HERE.
• 05:33 THE VERY CORNER OF THE SOUTH AND WESTERN WALLS AT THE TOP
• 05:39 WAS CALLED "THE PLACE OF THE TRUMPET".
• 05:42 THERE THE TRUMPETER LITERALLY BLEW ON THE TRUMPET TO OFFICIALLY START
• 05:47 THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS, NOW REFERRED TO AS ROSH HASHANAH IN JEWISH PARLANCE,
• 05:54 AND OF COURSE, THIS IS SYMBOLIC OF THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH
• 05:57 WHEN THE LORD WILL SOUND THE TRUMPET.
• 05:59 THE STONE HAS BEEN TAKEN TO THE ISRAEL MUSEUM.
• 06:02 IT SAYS RIGHT ON IT, THIS IS THE PLACE OF THE TRUMPETS.
• 06:04 DOWN BELOW, ON THE FLOOR OF THE VALLEY,
• 06:07 ARE LITTLE STORES THAT ACTUALLY SOLD ANIMALS
• 06:12 AND CHANGED MONEY FOR THE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE TEMPLE.
• 06:16 THEY COULD NOT USE ORDINARY PROFANE COINS.
• 06:19 THEY HAD TO CHANGE TO TEMPLE COINAGE AND THEY HAD TO BUY ANIMALS FOR SACRIFICE.
• 06:24 ON THE WALL ITSELF ARE THE REMNANTS OF AN ARCH THAT WENT ACROSS,
• 06:30 THAT WAY PEOPLE COULD ENTER FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS TEROPIAN VALLEY
• 06:34 AND GO INTO THE TEMPLE AND INTO THE SOUTHWESTERN AREA THAT WAY.
• 06:41 THERE'S A SIMILAR WALKWAY IN MODERN TIMES WHICH WE SEE NEXT ALONG THE WALL
• 06:47 WHERE YOU CAN WALK UP AND ENTER THE TEMPLE MOUNT TO GO ONTO THE PLATFORM.
• 06:53 WELL, ON THE PLATFORM ITSELF, OF COURSE, WHAT IS PROPERLY CALLED THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
• 06:58 THERE'S SOME IMPORTANT BUILDINGS WE HEAR ALL ABOUT IN THE NEWS.
• 07:02 DOWN FROM THE AL AQSA MOSQUE, IS THE GORGEOUS DOME OF THE ROCK,
• 07:07 A VERY ORNATE BUILDING OF MOSAICS WITH A GOLDEN DOME.
• 07:11 BEHIND IT IN THE BACKGROUND, YOU CAN SEE THE MOUNT OF OLIVES,
• 07:14 THE OLIVE TREES, CHURCHES THAT ARE THERE AND SO FORTH.
• 07:18 AS WE COME DOWN, WE CAN PERCEIVE THE WESTERN WALL,
• 07:23 MOVING ALONG INTO THE AREA SOMETIMES CALLED
• 07:27 THE "WAILING WALL" OR THE "WESTERN WALL".
• 07:29 THE WOMEN'S SIDE FIRST AND TO THE RIGHT AND LITTLE PEOPLE THERE
• 07:35 TO DEMONSTRATE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PRAYING AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE MOVING.
• 07:40 THEY MOVE THEIR BODIES PRAISING GOD WITH EVERY BONE OF THEIR BODIES AS THE PSALMIST SAYS
• 07:45 WITH THEIR WHOLE BEING AND THE MEN IN VARIOUS COSTUMES,
• 07:50 THE ORTHODOX IN THE BLACK COSTUMES AND THE ORDINARY WORSHIPERS WITH PRAYER SHAWLS
• 07:55 ALL PRAYING FACING THE WALL BECAUSE IN THEIR MIND,
• 07:58 THIS IS THE CLOSEST PLACE THEY CAN GET TO GOD'S APARTMENT ON EARTH, THE HOLY OF HOLIES,
• 08:03 THE KODESH HA KODESHIM IS SOMEWHERE UNDER THE PLATFORM AND BACK IN THROUGH THAT WALL,
• 08:08 ALTHOUGH IF WE WOULD GO NORTH OF IT THROUGH THE CAVE-LIKE ENTRANCES,
• 08:12 WE WOULD GET CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE HOLY OF HOLIES
• 08:16 AND AS WE MOVE ALONG WE SEE VARIOUS CUPALAS ON THE FLOOR OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT ON THE TOP.
• 08:24 THE IMPORTANT ONE IS THE DARK-TOPPED SMALL ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE
• 08:30 WHICH SOME THINK ACTUALLY IS WHERE THE HOLY OF HOLIES IS,
• 08:37 ALTHOUGH THAT'S PURE SPECULATION.
• 08:39 UNTIL ARCHAEOLOGISTS CAN DIG UNDER THE MOUNT, THEY WON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE.
• 08:44 THAT IS WHAT IS ON THE PLATFORM ITSELF, AT THIS TIME, IN MODERN DAY.
• 08:53 (SPEAKING HEBREW) YOU ARE LOVELY ISRAEL
• 08:59 (SPEAKING HEBREW) YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MY LOVE
• 09:11 (SPEAKING HEBREW) YES, I'VE LOVED YOU, ISRAEL
• 09:15 (SPEAKING HEBREW) AS HE LOVES YOU FROM ABOVE
• 09:21 THE LAND OF ISRAEL, ISRAEL MY LOVE IS LIKE NO OTHER LAND IN THE WORLD.
• 09:29 WE'RE BOUND FOR THE PROMISED LAND.
• 09:31 WE'RE GOING BACK TO ISRAEL AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JOINED US ON PAST TOURS,
• 09:35 SAY IT IS A TREASURE THEY WILL CHERISH FOR THE REST OF THEIR DAYS.
• 09:38 I THINK EVERY CHRISTIAN NEEDS TO COME HERE
• 09:43 AND JUST SENSE THE SAME THINGS THAT ALL OF THEM HAVE FELT GOING BEFORE US
• 09:47 BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD IT SAID THAT YOUR WHOLE LIFE WILL BE CHANGED IF YOU COME TO THE HOLY LAND
• 09:51 AND YOU CAN RELATE MORE TO WHERE JESUS WAS IN THE TEMPLE
• 09:54 AND ALL THE GREAT AND MIGHTY THINGS THAT HE DID
• 09:56 AND I CAN NOW JOIN THEM IN SAYING EVERYONE NEEDS TO COME TO THE HOLY LAND.
• 10:01 IT IS ONE THING TO READ THE WORDS
• 10:04 AND THEN BE ABLE TO LOOK OUT HERE AND SEE JESUS WALKED ACROSS THE LAND.
• 10:09 IT BRINGS IT ALL TO A SENSE THAT IT REALLY HAPPENED.
• 10:15 THIS IS MY SECOND TOUR WITH ZOLA.
• 10:17 THE FIRST ONE WAS IN JUNE '84 AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL TOUR.
• 10:22 IT WAS SO LOVELY AND I LOVE ISRAEL SO MUCH THAT I HAD TO COME BACK
• 10:26 AND SEE IT AGAIN AND LIVE IT AGAIN.
• 10:29 COME WITH US TO ISRAEL AND WALK WHERE JESUS WALKED.
• 10:33 LET US BREAK BREAD TOGETHER IN JERUSALEM.
• 10:36 I'VE TRAVELED THROUGH ISRAEL DOZENS OF TIMES.
• 10:39 BELIEVE ME, IT'S THE MOST EXCITING
• 10:41 AND SPIRITUALLY SATISFYING JOURNEY YOU CAN UNDERTAKE IN THIS LIFE.
• 10:46 THE OPENINGS ON THE NORTH SIDE BY THE WESTERN WALL,
• 10:49 LEAD TO THE FAMOUS TUNNEL THE ISRAELIS OPENED A FEW YEARS AGO THAT GOES TO THE VIA DELAROSA.
• 10:56 IT CAUSED NO DAMAGE.
• 10:58 IT HELPED ARABS BUT ARAFAT USED IT AS AN EXCUSE
• 11:01 FOR ANOTHER ONE OF HIS CRAZY MARCHES AND PROTESTS.
• 11:04 THEN IT QUIETED DOWN.
• 11:07 AND THE TUNNEL HAS BEEN OPENED EVER SINCE AND NOBODY'S THE WORSE FOR IT.
• 11:11 BUT, ANYWAY THAT TUNNEL RUNS RIGHT PARALLEL WITH THE WESTERN WALL.
• 11:14 IT SHOWS MANY FEATURES OF WHAT WAS THERE AT THE TEMPLE BACK IN THE FIRST CENTURY.
• 11:21 THEN WE'LL TALK WITH MARTY COHEN, THE MESSIANIC PASTOR
• 11:24 WHO'S GOT QUITE A BIT TO SAY ABOUT OUR SUBJECT, THE CRUSADERS.
• 11:28 MARTY,AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE AROUND CRUSADER RUINS
• 11:33 AND LOOKING AT THINGS AND YOU'RE VERY INFORMED ON THESE SUBJECTS.
• 11:36 TELL ME THE STORY ABOUT SAFED, AGAIN.
• 11:38 SAFED WAS A VERY IMPORTANT CRUSADER POSITION BECAUSE IT CONTROLLED THE ROAD
• 11:44 BETWEEN DAMASCUS AND WHAT WAS THEN CALLED PATALOMOS WHICH IS AKKO.
• 11:48 IT SAT UPON A PRESIPICE, HIGH UPON A HILL,
• 11:51 IT'S JUST A LITTLE TOWN.
• 11:52 IT'S A LITTLE TOWN, BUT IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TOWN.
• 11:54 IT WAS IMPORTANT THOSE DAYS AND IT IS TODAY, TOO.
• 11:57 NOT ONLY DURING THE CRUSADER TIMES, WAS THIS POSITION SO IMPORTANT,
• 12:02 THE CASTLE SO IMPORTANT, BUT LATER DURING THE WAR OF INDEPENDENCE,
• 12:05 THE BATTLE OF SAFED, THE ARABS CONTROLLED THIS HIGH GROUND
• 12:09 AND PUT TREMENDOUS PRESSURE ON THE FEW JEWS THAT WERE THERE, BUT BY THE HAND OF GOD,
• 12:16 THE JEWISH PEOPLE WERE PERSISTENT AND PREVAILED AND OVERCAME THE ENEMY.
• 12:21 JUST LIKE THE CRUSADER CASTLE, WAS FINALLY DEFEATED AND IN RUINS, SO WAS THE ARAB POSITION.
• 12:28 WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
• 12:30 WE SAW THESE CASTLES OR THE REMAINS AT AKKO, WE'VE SEEN THE NIMROD AND BELVOIR, CRAZY--
• 12:38 WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
• 12:40 I THINK THEY THOUGHT THAT WITH THE DEMONSTRATION OF POWER, WOULD COME POWER.
• 12:47 YOU BUILD A BIG CASTLE YES,
• 12:49 YOU BUILD A BIG CASTLE, YOU LOOK IMPORTANT AND THE PEOPLE WOULD COW TO THAT.
• 12:53 IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THEORY THE ROMANS HAD.
• 12:55 EVERY WHERE THE ROMANS ESTABLISHED THEIR POSITION,
• 12:58 THEY DEMONSTRATED THE GLORY OF ROME AND SO THE GLORY OF ROME--
• 13:02 STATUARY
• 13:03 IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE GLORY OF GOD.
• 13:05 THAT'S HOW THEY MAINTAINED THE AWE OF THE PEOPLE
• 13:08 AND THE CRUSADERS KIND OF FOLLOWED THE SAME PATH HERE.
• 13:10 MARTY, YOU LIVE ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF HAIFA, WHICH HAS A LARGE ARAB POPULATION,
• 13:16 THERE ARE DRUZE PEOPLE NEAR YOUR VILLAGE.
• 13:19 YOU KNOW THEM PERSONALLY, THESE PEOPLE.
• 13:21 SURE, IN FACT WE MOVED TO ISRAEL, WE CAME WITH NO FURNITURE
• 13:26 BECAUSE WE FELT GOD WAS DOING A NEW THING AND SO EVERY STICK OF FURNITURE IN MY HOUSE
• 13:30 WAS MADE BY EITHER DRUZE OR BY MUSLIM FROM WHAT THEY CALL THE WEST BANK,
• 13:35 FROM JUDEA AND SAMARIA
• 13:37 UH-HUH
• 13:38 SO WE'VE GOT CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOT OF THE DRUZE
• 13:41 FROM UP IN MT. CARMEL AREA AND WITH SOME OF THE MUSLIMS UP THERE, TOO.
• 13:47 ZOLA, IT'S JUST LIKE ANY PLACE ELSE, I MEAN IN A LOCAL CHURCH,
• 13:51 YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY EXTREMELY ADAMANT IN THEIR FAITH
• 13:56 AND PEOPLE THAT GO BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GO.
• 13:58 THAT'S TRUE IN THE MUSLIM FAITH, TOO.
• 14:00 IT'S NOT HOMOGENIZED, IT'S NOT ONE GROUP.
• 14:05 THERE'S MORE TENSION WITHIN THE MUSLIM FAITH THAN THERE IS BETWEEN THE MUSLIMS AND JEWS.
• 14:12 THEY FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER MORE THAN THEY FIGHT WITH US.
• 14:13 YES, I WAS AWARE OF THAT.
• 14:14 LET'S DEFINE DRUZE.
• 14:16 THEY'RE KIND OF AN OFFSHOOT OF ISLAM WITH THEIR OWN THING
• 14:19 AND THEY ARE RELATIVELY MORE FRIENDLY WITH ISRAEL.
• 14:21 YES, THEY HAVE A SECRET RELIGION THAT IS SECRET EVEN TO SOME OF THE DRUZE
• 14:26 AND YET THEY SERVE FAITHFULLY IN THE ARMY.
• 14:31 THEY'RE LOYAL CITIZENS OF THE NATION IN WHICH THEY LIVE.
• 14:34 IT MAKES IT A LITTLE COMPLICATED, THOUGH, OVER ON THE GOLAN SIDE.
• 14:38 THE DRUZE, ALWAYS, IN WHAT EVER PLACE THEY LIVE,
• 14:40 THEY ALWAYS LIVE UP ON THE MOUNTAINS.
• 14:42 WELL, IN ISRAEL, THEY LIVE ON MT. CARMEL AND THEY LIVE ON THE GOLAN HEIGHTS.
• 14:46 WELL, THE CARMEL DRUZE ARE FAITHFUL, LOYAL ISRAELI CITIZENS.
• 14:51 BUT, THE GOLAN HEIGHTS DRUZE, THAT WAS SYRIA
• 14:55 AND SO FOR GENERATIONS THEY WERE LOYAL, FAITHFUL SYRIAN DRUZE.
• 15:00 SO, NOW THAT IT'S ISRAEL, THEY'RE IN THIS TRANSITIONAL PERIOD
• 15:06 AND IT'S VERY HARD FOR THEM.
• 15:08 MY DRUZE FRIENDS IN THE GALILEE HAVE SHARED WITH ME
• 15:11 THAT THEY HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY OVER THERE
• 15:14 AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH TERRIBLE PERSONAL, INTERNAL STRUGGLES BECAUSE
• 15:17 THEY'RE FAITH REQUIRES THEM TO BE FAITHFUL AND LOYAL CITIZENS OF THE NATION THEY LIVE IN,
• 15:22 BUT THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE DRUZE THAT THE NATION THEY'VE LIVED IN,
• 15:28 HAS CHANGED AND THEY HAVEN'T MOVED.
• 15:31 SO THEY ARE HAVING SOME REAL STRUGGLES WITH THAT.
• 15:34 ENOUGH OF THE DRUZE, I THINK SOME PEOPLE DON'T APPRECIATE,
• 15:37 THEY THINK THERE'S ONLY MUSLIMS AND JEWS IN ISRAEL.
• 15:39 RIGHT.
• 15:40 THERE'S SO MANY RELIGIONS WE'RE ALL HERE.
• 15:42 IT'S A CARNIVAL OF RELIGION.
• 15:44 BY THE WAY, THE NOISE WE'RE HEARING IN THE BACKGROUND
• 15:47 IS WORK GOING ON, ON THIS FENCE, THIS WALL.
• 15:49 WE'RE CLOSE TO BETHLEHEM HERE, AT RAMAT RACHAEL
• 15:54 AND THEY WERE WORKING YESTERDAY WHEN WE WERE FILMING NEAR THE FENCE.
• 15:59 WE GET OFF THE SUBJECT FOR A MINUTE, TALK ABOUT THIS FENCE,
• 16:03 EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT THAT THE ISRAELIS WANT TO BUILD THIS FENCE
• 16:06 AND THE POOR PALESTINIAN ARE FIGHTING IT.
• 16:08 THERE'S NOT A JEW IN ISRAEL THAT WANTS A FENCE, ZOLA.
• 16:11 OF COURSE NOT.
• 16:12 ALL WE WANT IS SECURITY.
• 16:13 WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN OUR HOMES AS PEACEFULLY
• 16:15 AS YOUR VIEWERS LIVE IN THEIRS, THAT'S ALL.
• 16:17 AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS,
• 16:20 GAZA, WHICH HAS A FENCE AROUND IT,
• 16:23 HAS SENT NO HOMICIDE BOMBERS TO ISRAEL BECAUSE THERE'S A FENCE.
• 16:28 SO, THE FENCE IS A WHOLE OTHER THING.
• 16:30 OKAY, YOU'RE LIVING AT THE TIME OF THIS, AT THE END OF THE ROADMAP, I CERTAINLY HOPE.
• 16:36 WHAT'S THE FUTURE LOOKING LIKE TO YOU?
• 16:41 IS THERE GOING TO BE A SOLUTION TO THIS SITUATION?
• 16:44 OF COURSE, WHEN THE MESSIAH RETURNS, THERE WILL BE A SOLUTION.
• 16:47 BUT, YOU DON'T REALLY SEE IT BEFORE?
• 16:49 NO I DON'T.
• 16:51 I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH BRINGING CHRISTIANS TO ISRAEL
• 16:55 AND YET THEY'RE NOT COMING LIKE THEY USED TO AND EVERYBODY HERE IS SAYING,
• 17:00 OH, IT'S GETTING BETTER, IT'S GOING TO GET EASIER AS WE GET MORE QUIET, IT WILL HELP.
• 17:06 THERE'S PERIODS OF QUIET, BUT, IT'S JUST A PERIOD OF QUIET, I THINK
• 17:11 AND AS FAR AS TRUE PEACE, YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE PEACE
• 17:16 WITH SOMEBODY WHOSE STATED PURPOSE IT IS TO KILL YOU.
• 17:20 THE PURPOSE OF THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, AS STATED CLEARLY, IS TO DESTROY ISRAEL.
• 17:29 FOR THERE TO BE A "PALESTINIAN STATE" HERE,
• 17:34 THEY WANT A PIECE OF JERUSALEM, BUT THE WANT A PIECE OF HAIFA AND A PIECE OF TEL AVIV.
• 17:39 THEY WANT ALL OF THE LAND.
• 17:40 AS THOSE MACHINES ARE BUILDING THE FENCE, EVEN AS WE SPEAK,
• 17:44 IT REMINDS ME OF THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE IN EUROPE AND THE UNITED NATIONS,
• 17:51 EVEN AMERICAN GOVERNMENT TELL YOU, DON'T BUILD THIS FENCE.
• 17:53 IT'S A BERLIN WALL, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER.
• 17:56 IT'S AS IF THEY ARE SAYING TO FARMERS
• 18:00 WHO ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH COYOTES AND WOLVES COMING INTO KILL THE LIVESTOCK,
• 18:04 DON'T BUILD A FENCE AROUND YOUR FARM.
• 18:07 GO REASON WITH THE COYOTES, EXPLAIN TO THE WOLVES.
• 18:11 EXACTLY, WHAT WE IGNORE, ZOLA, BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENCES IN THE POPULATION
• 18:16 OF ISRAEL AND AMERICA, WHAT IF CANADIANS WERE COMING ACROSS THE BORDER OF AMERICA
• 18:23 AND OVER THE LAST 3 YEARS HAD KILLED 40,000 AMERICANS.
• 18:29 THAT'S THE PROPORTION?
• 18:31 THAT'S THE PROPORTION.
• 18:32 I THINK TORONTO WOULD BE A HISTORY LESSON.
• 18:35 IT WOULD BE A HOLE IN THE GROUND AND THERE WOULD BE A GIGANTIC BARRIER BETWEEN CANADA AND U.S.
• 18:41 I LIVE IN A LITTLE VILLAGE ON MT. CARMEL AND THE NEXT VILLAGE,
• 18:47 ALL THAT SEPARATES ME FROM AN ARAB VILLAGE WITH 3 MOSQUES IS A HIGHWAY.
• 18:53 AND YET WE LIVE AT PEACE WITH THESE NEIGHBORS.
• 18:58 THEY'RE ARAB ISRAELIS.
• 19:00 THEY'RE CITIZENS OF ISRAEL, BUT YET THEIR HEART IS TO LIVE IN MY VILLAGE.
• 19:07 THEIR HEART IS THAT ALL THE JEWS BE IN ANOTHER PLACE.
• 19:11 SOMEWHERE ELSE, LIKE INTO THE SEA.
• 19:13 MARTY, WE WILL HAVE TO STOP AT THAT POINT.
• 19:15 WE'RE ABOUT OUT OF TAPE, BUT IT'S FASCINATING TO TALK. THANKS FOR SHARING.
• 19:19 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ZOLA,
• 19:21 AND THANK YOU FOR INSISTING ON KEEP COMING BACK TO THE LAND AND BRINGING PEOPLE WITH YOU.
• 19:25 THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU
• 19:32 MARTY ALSO TOLD US THAT HE HAS MADE ANOINTING OIL FROM THE ORIGINAL BIBLICAL RECIPE
• 19:40 WHICH IS QUITE AN ELABORATE PROCEDURE AND HE HAS THE STUFF,
• 19:44 SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THAT, CONTACT US AND WE WILL SEND YOUR REQUEST TO HIM.
• 19:49 HE'S GOT A PLACE UP ON MT. CARMEL WHERE ELIJAH WAS PREACHING
• 19:55 AND I APPRECIATE HIS SHARING WITH US.
• 20:00 GERALD SCHROEDER IS COMING UP NOW AND YOU WILL RECOGNIZE HIM AS THE COSMOLOGIST
• 20:04 WHO TALKED ABOUT CREATION, BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT SCIENCE.
• 20:07 THIS IS A VIEW OF AN INDIVIDUAL WHO LIVES IN JERUSALEM
• 20:11 WITH HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN AND HAS FOR MANY YEARS, ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE LAND.
• 20:17 GERALD, YOU'RE AN AMERICAN.
• 20:19 I'M AN ISRAELI. AN AMERICAN ISRAELI.
• 20:22 AN ISRAELI NOW, BUT YOU WERE RAISED IN AMERICA
• 20:24 AND EDUCATED IN AMERICA AND YOU UNDERSTAND OUR CULTURE,
• 20:27 BUT, WE'RE GIVING SAUDI ARABIA A FREE PASS ON THIS WAR ON TERRORISM.
• 20:33 WE HAVEN'T BEGUN TO OBJECT TO THEM.
• 20:36 WE HAVEN'T ENTERED THEIR COUNTRY AS WE AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ.
• 20:40 WE HAVEN'T CRITICIZED THEM AS WE HAVE SYRIA OR LIBYA.
• 20:43 THEY ARE AMONG THE PRESIDENT'S FRIENDS.
• 20:46 A SAUDI PRINCE VISITED HIS RANCH.
• 20:49 HE HELD RAMADAN OCCASION AT THE WHITE HOUSE
• 20:53 WITH SOME OF THE WORST THUGS OUT OF THE WHOLE ISLAMIC "THUGOCRACY".
• 20:58 WHY DO YOU THINK, NOW THAT SAUDI ARABIANS ARE GETTING NUCLEAR WEAPONS
• 21:04 AND THEY CAN GET THEM, DO YOU THINK THEY WILL STILL GET A FREE PASS
• 21:07 UNTIL THEY BLOW US UP OR WHAT'S THE DEAL?
• 21:09 IT DEPENDS, I GUESS, ON THE POWER OF THE ECONOMY.
• 21:14 HAS AMERICA TIED ITSELF TO SAUDI OIL?
• 21:19 ALTERNATIVELY, THE UNITED STATES COULD GO AND JUST TAKE OVER THESE OIL FIELDS,
• 21:25 BUT IN MY OPINION, IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.
• 21:28 IT'S NOT GOING TO DO IT.
• 21:29 I MEAN, THE WRITING SEEMS TO BE ON THE WALL, AS DANIEL POINTED OUT
• 21:35 AND I TELL YOU, IT SOUNDS VERY PREJUDICIAL, 20-30 YEARS AGO,
• 21:39 I NEVER WOULD HAVE NEVER TALKED LIKE THIS, NEVER.
• 21:41 BECAUSE YOU COME INTO A COUNTRY AND YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO BE-- I CAME FROM AMERICA,
• 21:46 I ASSUMED THE VALUES WOULD BE THE SAME FROM THE POPULUS AROUND HERE.
• 21:50 THE NAIVETY.
• 21:51 I FOUGHT INTHE I.D.F., THE ISRAELI ARMY AND I'M VERY PLEASED THAT I DID.
• 21:56 I'M VERY HAPPY I GOT OUT, ONE OF MY KIDS WAS INJURED.
• 21:59 MY BOYS ARE OFFICERS, MY SON-IN-LAW IS AN OFFICER.
• 22:01 I GOT OUT WHOLE, BUT I'M VERY PLEASED THAT I WAS IN THERE,
• 22:08 BUT I WAS TOLD WHEN YOU HAVE CONFRONTATION,
• 22:10 THIS IS WHEN I WAS GOING TO LEBANON, SO IT'S BACK IN THE 80'S
• 22:13 AND WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW, I HEARD A BBC REPORTER SAY IT
• 22:16 AND HE NEVER SHOWED UP IN THE AREA AGAIN, IN ISRAEL, AGAIN.
• 22:19 HE SAID, YOU SHOULD, I WAS TOLD EXPLICITLY, HE WAS SITTING IN THE BUS ACROSS THE BORDER,
• 22:22 BEFORE ENTERING INTO THE COMBAT ZONE, HE SAID YOU WILL REALIZE THAT WHEN YOU ARE BEING SHOT AT,
• 22:28 LOOK FOR THE ORIGIN OF THE SHOOTING AND IT WILL BE COMING FROM AMONG WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
• 22:32 YOUR CHOICE WILL BE HOW TO DEFEND YOURSELF, BUT YOU SHOULD REALIZE,
• 22:36 THE SHOOTING WILL COME FROM AMONG WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
• 22:39 WELL, ONE TIME ONLY ON THE BBC, I HEARD ESSENTIALLY THE SAME REALITY.
• 22:44 HE POINTED OUT HOW THE WEAPONS WERE STORED BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS OF A HOSPITAL.
• 22:48 THEY ENTERED THE HOSPITAL, THERE WAS MORE MUNITIONS DOWN IN THE BASEMENT.
• 22:52 THERE WERE OBSERVERS ON THE ROOF OF THE HOSPITAL.
• 22:54 THAT REPORTER NEVER CAME BACK TO THE MIDDLE EAST.
• 22:57 GERALD, A BEDOUIN WITH A KNIFE, A SOLDIER WITH A GUN,
• 23:02 EVEN SHOOTING FROM THE ROOF OF A HOSPITAL, BUT SAUDI ARABIANS WITH NUCLEAR BOMBS!
• 23:07 ONCE NUCLEAR WEAPONS ENTER THIS AREA IN A VISIBLE WAY
• 23:11 AMONG THE VERY COUNTRY THAT IN THE FIRST GULF WAR, THE KING OF SAUDI ARABIA SAID,
• 23:18 REMEMBER THE QUOTE HE SAID
• 23:20 "WHEN YOU APOLOGIZE, TO HIS SOLDIER, I WISH I WERE TAKING YOU OUT TO FIGHT ISRAEL,
• 23:24 BUT NOW WE HAVE TO GO FIGHT ANOTHER ARAB COUNTRY".
• 23:28 THAT COUNTRY WILL NOW HAVE WEAPONS,
• 23:32 THE SAME COUNTRY THAT SAID HE WISHED HE WAS TAKING HIS SOLDIERS TO FIGHT ISRAEL.
• 23:36 I JUST SEE THE U.S. BACKING ITSELF INTO A CORNER BECAUSE
• 23:43 IT'S SO DEPENDENT ON THIS OIL, HOW SHOULD I SAY, BELLIGERENT TO OIL,
• 23:50 THESE SOURCES OF OIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
• 23:52 I DIDN'T READ THE BOOK "A CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS",
• 23:55 BUT AS I RECALL THERE ARE 20 OR 30 WARS GOING ON AT THE MOMENT AND--
• 24:00 28 WARS AND 25 OF THEM, MUSLIMS ARE ON ONE SIDE.
• 24:05 I MEAN, ARE WE BLIND?
• 24:08 I FEEL CERTAIN THAT WHEN THE PRESIDENTS, PRESIDENT BUSH IS AN EXAMPLE
• 24:11 OR THE LEADERS OF COUNTRIES GET IN--
• 24:13 LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BED AND THEY'RE TALKING TO THEIR WIVES.
• 24:15 THEY SAY THE TRUTH AND THEY SAY THERE REALLY THIS NUMBER,
• 24:18 BUT I CAN'T SAY IT IN PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY'LL--
• 24:20 AS THE BIBLE SAYS, THERE IS A VALLEY IN NORTHERN ISRAEL CALLED ARMAGEDDON
• 24:24 AND THE BOOK OF REVELATION FOR ONE,
• 24:27 BUT HEBREW PROPHETS AGREE THAT AT THE END THERE WILL COME--
• 24:32 EVEN THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS TALK ABOUT A BATTLE OF THE SONS OF LIGHT AND THE SON OF DARKNESS.
• 24:37 DO YOU SEE US AT THE END?
• 24:39 I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE THAT KIND OF PREDICTION,
• 24:44 BUT I SEE THAT WE ARE HEADING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG BATTLE
• 24:49 AND I HOPE THIS TIME, I THINK THE BATTLE IS GOING TO COME,
• 24:54 THERE WILL BE HORRENDOUS BLOODSHED, BUT I HOPE THIS TIME,
• 24:57 WE AND OUR-- WHO ARE OUR ALLIES?
• 25:01 THE UNITED STATES, MICRONESIA, THE ONLY ONES THAT FOR IT.
• 25:06 THE FEW STATES THAT VOTED WITH YOU.
• 25:09 --WILL FINISH THE JOB, WILL FINISH THE JOB PROPLERLY
• 25:14 BECAUSE OTHERWISE WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT TYPE OF CIVILIZATION
• 25:18 AND IN A FEW, JUST IN A FEW DECADES, NOT EVEN A FEW GENERATIONS,
• 25:23 AND SOMEBODY SAID THEY'RE TRYING TO DEFEND THE MUSLIM,
• 25:26 I DOUBT IF EVEN 1% OF THE MUSLIMS REALLY ARE TERRORISTS.
• 25:30 BUT, IF HE IS RIGHT, IF 1% ARE TERRORISTS, THAT IS 10 MILLION TERRORISTS.
• 25:35 10 MILLION. THAT'S A LOT.
• 25:40 I MEAN IT TOOK 19 TO BRING DOWN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
• 25:42 I KNOW IT SOUNDS TERRIBLY PREJUDICIAL, I DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT.
• 25:46 SEE, THAT'S MY PROBLEM.
• 25:48 I'M STILL UP HERE IN THE LOGIC, THEY CALL THE CORTEX PART OF THE BRAIN, I'M STILL IN AMERICA,
• 25:53 BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL, ETC, DOWN IN MY EMOTIONS, THOUGH,
• 25:56 I'M FEELING A LITTLE DIFFERENT THESE DAYS AS I SEE THE REALITY--
• 26:00 I SURE DON'T BLAME YOU.
• 26:02 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE GERALD, BUT THAT'S QUITE A TESTIMONY,
• 26:05 THANK YOU FOR SHARING WITH US.
• 26:07 WELL, GERALD SEES A BATTLE COMING, MARTY SEES NOTHING BUT TROUBLE UNTIL THE END.
• 26:13 WE SHOWED YOU THE TEMPLE MOUNT, WHICH IS A BIG BONE-OF-CONTENTION.
• 26:19 BUT, I TELL YOU, THAT'S NOT THE HALF OF IT.
• 26:20 THERE'S TWO BIG INVASIONS COMING UP, OF ISRAEL.
• 26:24 NEVER MIND THE PALESTINIANS, THEY ARE A PESKY PROBLEM,
• 26:27 BUT, THE INVASION OF GOG EAND MAGOG IN EZEKIEL 38 & 39
• 26:31 AND OF COURSE, ARMAGEDDON, A PEERLESS FINAL BATTLE THAT THE LORD WILL PUT A STOP TO.
• 26:37 GOD DOESN'T LIKE IT WHEN YOU ATTACK HIS PEOPLE.
• 26:40 HE SAYS, IT SHALL COME TO PASS, I'M READING EZEKIEL 38:18
• 26:43 IT SHALL COME TO PASS AT THE SAME TIME WHEN GOG SHALL COME AGAINST THE LAND OF ISRAEL
• 26:48 SAYETH THE LORD GOD THAT MY FURY SHALL COME UP IN MY FACE,
• 26:51 AND YOU CAN READ THE REST OF THE CHAPTER AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE INVADERS.
• 27:01 ALL I CAN SAY IS SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.