
“The Invasion”
Standing by a Crusader moat in Caesarea, Zola presents an overview of Pope Urban’s Crusade in 1095, which ultimately resulted in a bad reputation for all true Christians. Zola also interviews Ra’anan Gissin, the chief advisor and spokesman for Prime Minister Sharon, about the long war on terrorism.
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- 00:05 IN 1095 POPE URBAN II DECREED THAT THE CENTER OF THE KNOWN WORLD, JERUSALEM,
- 00:12 SHOULD BE FREED FROM MUSLIM CONTROL.
- 00:15 SPURRED BY RELIGIOUS FERVOR, >>WARRIORS MARCHED UNABATED ACROSS >>EUROPE TOWARDS THE HOLY LAND,
- 00:21 LEAVING DEATH AND DEVASTATION IN THEIR WAKE.
- 00:24 IN THE END, UPWARDS OF 30,000 >>MUSLIMS AND JEWS WERE MASSACRED >>IN JERUSALEM, ALONE.
- 00:31 THIS WAS CALLED "A HOLY WAR". >>THESE WERE THE CRUSADERS.
- 00:41 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
- 00:42 WELCOME TO OUR SERIES ON "THE CRUSADERS".
- 00:46 WHY ARE WE DOING THE CRUSADERS?
- 00:47 THE CRUSADERS WERE CHRISTIAN >>ARMIES, OF COURSE THAT CAME OUT >>OF EUROPE AND ATTACKED ISRAEL
- 00:51 STARTING 1099 A.D., A THOUSAND YEARS AGO OR SO AND FOUGHT WITH THE MUSLIMS.
- 00:58 WE ARE COVERING THEM BECAUSE WE ARE FIGHTING WITH THE MUSLIMS OURSELVES
- 01:02 AND OSAMA BIN LADEN, FOR ONE, >>SAID THAT HE URGES THE MUSLIMS TO "LIBERATE" THE ISLAMIC WORLD
- 01:11 FROM THE MILITARY OCCUPATION OF THE CRUSADERS.
- 01:15 WE ARE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT OUR ARMY, THE COALITION TROOPS, ETC. >>ARE CRUSADERS.
- 01:19 THEY ARE SORT OF LIKE THE >>CRUSADERS AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER IN THIS SERIES
- 01:24 LATER IN THE PROGRAM, >>WE'LL TALK WITH RA'ANAN GISSIN,
- 01:27 A SENIOR ADVIS██ TO PRIME MINISTER SHARON.
- 01:30 BUT FOR NOW, LET'S GO TO >>LOCATION IN ISRAEL AT CAESAREA.
- 01:37 OUR LOCATION IS CAESAREA ON THE >>MEDITERRANEAN COAST OF ISRAEL
- 01:40 WHERE A NUMBER OF CIVILIZATIONS >>ESTABLISHED A PLACE FOR A >>HARBOR, A CITY, A TRADING POST,
- 01:49 AND FINALLY CASTLES LIKE THE ONE BEHIND ME
- 01:53 FORTIFIED BY THE CRUSADERS FOR THEIR ADVENTURES HERE IN THE HOLY LAND.
- 01:58 OUR SUBJECT IS PEACE, SOMETHING THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT DAY >>AFTER DAY, YEAR AFTER YEAR,
- 02:05 DECADE AFTER DECADE IN OUR TIME, >>PEACE IN THE HOLY LAND.
- 02:10 SCRIPTURE INDICATES THAT IT'S HARD TO COME BY.
- 02:23 IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET REAL PEACE >>HERE, EVIDENTLY.
- 02:26 THROUGH THE AGES THERE HAVE BEEN >>SEVEN GRAND EFFORTS EVEN ON GOD'S PART,
- 02:34 FOR PEACE FOR ALL MANKIND, YOU MIGHT SAY.
- 02:37 IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE START, I GUESS,
- 02:40 WAS THE FLOOD WHEN GOD DECIDED >>PEACE THROUGH ELIMINATING UNBELIEVERS
- 02:46 AND HE SAVED NOAH AND HIS FAMILY ONLY AND HE WENT ON FROM THERE,
- 02:49 BUT SHORTLY AFTER IN THE BIBLE, >>YOU READ ABOUT THE TOWER OF BABEL
- 02:53 AND FINALLY AT THE END OF >>THAT VERY CHAPTER, GENESIS 11 OF >>TARA AND THE BIRTH OF ABRAHAM
- 03:00 AND NOW GOD TURNS TO PEACE THROUGH A CHOSEN PEOPLE AND A PROMISED LAND.
- 03:06 ONE PEOPLE WILL BE A BLESSING TO ALL NATIONS AND THEY WILL BRING >>PEACE TO THE WORLD,
- 03:14 SUPPOSEDLY IF THEY'LL DO IT WELL.
- 03:17 THIS IS 1000 YEARS BY THE WAY,
- 03:19 THE FLOOD IS GIVE OR TAKE IN BIBLICAL YEARS, 3000 B.C.,
- 03:24 ABRAHAM IS 2000 B.C., ADD 1000 YEARS, YOU HAVE KING DAVID,
- 03:30 PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH AND FAITH.
- 03:32 HIS SON SOLOMON BUILT THE TEMPLE DAVID ESTABLISHED JERUSALEM AS >>THE CAPITAL OF ISRAEL.
- 03:39 THAT WAS 3000 YEARS AGO.
- 03:41 SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE >>JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL OF ISRAEL TODAY
- 03:46 INCLUDING THE NATIONAL WEATHER >>SERVICE, BY THE WAY,
- 03:48 WHEN YOU READ THEIR CAPITALS OF EUROPE AND THEIR WEATHER REPORTS AND CAPITALS OF THE MIDDLE EAST.
- 03:56 BUT, IN ANY CASE, DAVID ESTABLISHED JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL AND BUILT A KINGDOM
- 04:02 WHERE HE PACIFIED THE BORDER AND THERE WAS STRENGTH AND THERE WAS >>FAITH FOR AWHILE.
- 04:08 AND THEN MUCH FIGHTING AND >>WARRING AND TEMPLE THROWN DOWN >>AND SO ON,
- 04:14 1000 YEARS AFTER DAVID, YOU HAVE THE MESSIAH,
- 04:17 PEACE THROUGH CHANGING MEN WAS >>HIS IDEA AND THAT WORKS.
- 04:21 MEN WHO BELIEVE IN CHRIST FOR THEIR SALVATION ARE BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS.
- 04:26 THEY NEVER MAKE WAR, NOT AGAINST ANYONE.
- 04:28 OTHER KINDS OF PEOPLE CALLED CHRISTIANS DO, BUT BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS DO NOT.
- 04:32 THEY ALWAYS LOVE THE HOLY LAND AND THE CHOSEN PEOPLE AND THEY >>ARE NOT FIGHTERS.
- 04:37 THEY WILL NOT GO TO WAR EXCEPT >>WHEN THE LORD WILL LEAD THEM
- 04:40 AGAINST THE ANTI-CHRIST IN ARMAGEDDON AT THE END.
- 04:43 BUT IN ANY CASE, MESSIAH'S WORK >>AMONG CHANGING MEN HAS ONLY CLAIMED A REMNANT
- 04:50 AND 1000 YEARS AFTER MESSIAH, >>YOU HAD THE CRUSADES AND THAT IS >>WHY WE ARE HERE AT CAESAREA
- 04:57 BEHIND ME IS AS CASTLE FORTIFIED >>BY THE CRUSADERS WHEN THEY >>ATTACKED HERE IN THE HOLY LAND.
- 05:04 THEIR IDEA WAS PEACE THROUGH >>TAKING OVER THE PROMISED LAND,
- 05:07 CHANGING IT TO A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY, GETTING RID OF THE >>MUSLIMS AND AS A MATTER OF FACT,
- 05:13 THE JEWS WHO THEY REALLY DIDN'T >>APPRECIATE AS CHOSEN PEOPLE
- 05:17 AND THEY DID TAKE THE PLACE OVER >>FOR A COUPLE OF CENTURIES
- 05:22 AND WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THAT CAREFULLY.
- 05:25 THAT'S NOT THE END OF IT THOUGH.
- 05:27 1000 YEARS AFTER THE CRUSADES, >>GIVE OR TAKE,
- 05:29 COMES OUR OWN TIME WITH OSLO AND THE ROADMAP
- 05:32 AND THE VARIOUS PEACE PROCESSES >>AND THE PEOPLE RIDING UP WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS
- 05:36 OF HOW TO MAKE PEACE HERE, THE SAME THING OVER AGAIN.
- 05:39 PEACE THROUGH DIVIDING THE PROMISED LAND IS THE IDEA OF THE ROADMAP OR OSLO,
- 05:46 GIVE HALF OF IT TO THE ENEMIES >>OF THE CHOSEN PEOPLE AND THAT'LL MAKE PEACE.
- 05:51 WELL, IT HASN'T SUCCEEDED; >>NONE OF THOSE IDEAS HAVE WORKED.
- 05:54 AND 1000 YEARS AFTER OUR OWN TIME, THAT IS THE LORD WILL >>COME, HE WILL START THE KINGDOM,
- 06:01 WE WILL HAVE 1000 YEARS OF >>RELATIVE PEACE, IT STILL WON'T >>BE TOTALLY PEACEFUL,
- 06:07 BECAUSE EVEN IN THE KINGDOM THERE'S SOME UNBELIEF.
- 06:10 THERE IS BLOOD SACRIFICES AT THE TEMPLE
- 06:11 BECAUSE UNBELIEVERS COME UP TO SEE GOD IN ACCORDANCE WITH ZECH 14:16,
- 06:16 THEY GO TO CELEBRATE THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES EVERY YEAR AND AT THE END OF THE 1000 YEAR REIGN,
- 06:23 THERE IS AN INVASION NAMED FOR >>GOG AND MAGOG IN REV 19:20
- 06:28 WHERE THEY RIDE UP IN ONE LAST >>MAD ATTEMPT TO TRY TO WREST THE HOLY LAND
- 06:34 FROM THE CHOSEN PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL.
- 06:37 GOD PUTS DOWN THAT PARTICULAR REBELLION AND FINALLY,
- 06:41 THIS IS THE LAST, THE 7TH IDEA, >>THERE HAVE BEEN 7,
- 06:44 THE FLOOD, ABRAHAM, DAVID, THE MESSIAH, THE CRUSADES,
- 06:48 OUR OWN PAX-AMERICANA IF YOU >>WANT TO CALL IT OR WESTERN IDEAS >>OF PEACE HERE
- 06:54 AND HERE IS THE LAST OF THE 7TH ONE, GOD WILL MAKE NEW HEAVEN,
- 06:59 A NEW EARTH AND A NEW JERUSALEM
- 07:01 AND WE WILL FINALLY HAVE A PERIOD, ETERNITY,
- 07:03 OF PERFECT PEACE WHEN AS REV. 21 >>SPECIFIES THERE WILL BE "NO MORE TEARS".
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- 07:42 WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE >>CRUSADES AS PARTICULARLY COMING >>DOWN ON THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.
- 07:51 THEY HAD BEEN ACCUSED OF DEICIDE >>WHICH IS THE MURDER OF GOD, SO TO SPEAK,
- 07:57 BY THE EUROPEANS RIGHT ON SINCE >>THE GOSPEL, EVEN THOUGH JESUS SAID FOR THIS WAS I BORN
- 08:05 AND EVEN THOUGH THE OLD TESTAMENT ANNOUNCES THAT
- 08:07 HE WOULD COME AS A LAMB TO THE SLAUGHTER,
- 08:08 NEVERTHELESS, THEY ARE CONVICTED OF KILLING HIM.
- 08:11 THIS IS SAID BY EUROPEANS AS I SAY, BASICALLY THE ROMAN CATHOLICS THROUGH THE AGES,
- 08:16 BUT NOT BY ARABS BECAUSE IF THE MUSLIM WOULD SAY THEY KILLED GOD,
- 08:22 THAN THAT WOULD BE ADMITTING THAT JESUS CHRIST IS GOD
- 08:25 AND THEY DON'T EXACTLY WANT TO >>GO THAT FAR.
- 08:26 SO THAT'S AMONG ALL THE ACCUSATIONS THEY PUT ON THE CHOSEN PEOPLE,
- 08:30 THAT'S NOT ONE OF THEM, BUT THEY WERE MURDERED FREELY IN EUROPE, I'M AFRAID.
- 08:35 THIS LEADS UP TO THE CRUSADES BECAUSE THE JEWS BECAME VERY DESPISED.
- 08:41 IN THE 4TH CENTURY IN ITALY A SYNAGOGUE WAS BURNED,
- 08:44 THERE WERE PROBABLY MORE THAN >>THAT BUT HISTORICALLY THAT'S THE >>FIRST ONE WE KNOW
- 08:49 AND IT'S SUCH A SHAME THAT IT'S IN ITALY
- 08:50 BECAUSE IT WAS TO THE ROMANS WHO LIVED IN THE CAPITAL OF ITALY THAT PAUL WROTE,
- 09:16 ALL OF THIS IS WRITTEN TO THE ITALIAN AND YET THEY,
- 09:20 WELL LET ME GIVE CREDIT TO THE >>SWISS, THE FRENCH, ENGLISH,
- 09:25 EVERYBODY SIMPLY CAME DOWN ON THE JEWS IN THEIR TIME.
- 09:29 THE MUSLIMS WHEN THEY CAME IN HERE BEGAN KILLING THE CHOSEN PEOPLE
- 09:34 AND THEY INTRODUCED THE BADGE, >>THE CODE OF OMAR, THEIR LOCAL LAW FOR THIS PLACE,
- 09:41 MADE THE JEWS WEAR BADGES TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS JEWS.
- 09:45 IT IS THE REVERSE OF THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.
- 09:47 THEY WERE CHOSEN FOR DERISION, >>FOR TAXATION, FOR FORCED CONVERSIONS.
- 09:51 THESE BADGES REAPPEARED IN THE 13TH CENTURY IN EUROPE
- 09:54 AND FINALLY WITH THE NAZIS WHO MADE THE JEWISH PEOPLE WEAR THE >>YELLOW STAR OF DAVID
- 10:00 ON THEIR COAT SO THEY COULD BE RECOGNIZED WHEREVER THEY WENT.
- 10:04 THE FORCED CONVERSIONS HAVE GONE >>ON THROUGH THE AGES TOO,
- 10:08 IN SPAIN AFTER THE CRUSADES AND >>SO ON THROUGHOUT EUROPE.
- 10:12 AND YOU KNOW WHEN I SPOKE IN OHIO AT A LITTLE MENNONITE CHURCH,
- 10:17 A MENNONITE SCHOLAR ACQUAINTED >>ME WITH THE IDEA THAT PERHAPS MANY OF THE MENNONITES
- 10:22 IN THE MIDWEST WITH THE JEWISH SOUNDING NAME,
- 10:25 LIKE STEINER AND BERGER AND SO FORTH,
- 10:27 WERE ORIGINALLY JEWISH PEOPLE >>WHO FLED PERSECUTIONS IN GERMANY >>AND SWITZERLAND,
- 10:33 MANY OF THEM JOINED CHURCHES TO ACT AS CHRISTIANS, RAISE THEIR >>CHILDREN IN THOSE CHURCHES.
- 10:40 THIS WAS JUST FOR PROTECTION, >>BIT WASN'T THAT THEY REALLY HAD >>A CLEAR BELIEF.
- 10:44 BUT, LITTLE BY LITTLE THE JUDAISM GOT LOST AMONG THE CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN
- 10:48 AND BY THE TIME THEY CAME OVER >>TO AMERICA THEY CONSIDERED >>THEMSELVES BIBLICAL CHRISTIANS,
- 10:54 BUT IN REALITY ARE CHOSEN PEOPLE.
- 10:57 I HAVE A THEORY THAT MORE >>AMERICAN GENTILES THAN KNOW IT
- 11:02 REALLY ARE DESCENDED FROM JEWS >>EITHER IN THE SO-CALLED LOST TRIBES
- 11:06 OR OTHER INTERMARRIAGES AND CONVERSIONS AND THIS SORT OF THING.
- 11:11 GOD KNOWS WHERE EVERY DROP OF JEWISH BLOOD IS
- 11:13 AND IT SOMETIMES APPEALS TO ME >>THAT SOME CHURCHES THAT CARE VERY DEEPLY ABOUT ISRAEL
- 11:18 PERHAPS HAVE A GREAT MANY JEWISH PEOPLE IN IT AND DON'T EVEN REALLY KNOW IT.
- 11:23 THE ATTACKS BY THE MUSLIMS >>CONTINUED AND THEY CONTINUE NOW,
- 11:28 I MEAN, THIS IS IN OUR PRESENT >>DAY CONTINUALLY ATTACKING THE JEWISH PEOPLE
- 11:33 WITH THE TEETH AND WITH TONGUE, >>KILLING THEM LITERALLY AND TALKING OBVIOUS ANTI-SEMITISM
- 11:41 A VERY, VERY ANGRY AND UNFAIR CRITICISM OF JUDAISM ALL THE TIME.
- 11:50 THE CRUSADERS CAME INTO THAT KIND OF MILIEU THAT WHEN THEY CAME OUT OF EUROPE,
- 11:55 IT WAS A TIME OF KILLING THE >>JEWS BECAUSE OF THEIR DEICIDE, BECAUSE THEY KILLED CHRIST, ETC.
- 12:02 THE CRUSADES MIGHT HAVE BEEN A >>NOBLE IDEA ON PAPER,
- 12:06 BUT PERHAPS IT WAS DONE FOR MORE WORLDLY REASONS.
- 12:10 POPE URBAN II HAD THE PROBLEM OF EUROPEAN COUNTRIES FIGHTING WITH >>EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME
- 12:16 AS THEY STILL DO AND THEY WERE >>ALL ROMAN CATHOLICS BASICALLY
- 12:21 AND HE WANTED TO UNITE THEM IN >>SOME COMMON PURPOSE
- 12:24 SO A CRUSADE TO THE HOLY LAND WOULD SERVE THAT PURPOSE.
- 12:27 HE ALSO HAD AN IDEA TO UNIFY THE EASTERN AND WESTERN CATHOLICS.
- 12:33 THE EASTERN CATHOLICS FROM THE BYZANTINES ONWARD WERE SORT OF >>THEIR OWN CHURCH
- 12:38 AND THEN THE ROMAN CHURCH WAS THE WESTERN SIDE
- 12:42 AND HE WANTED THE TWO TO BECOME >>ONE STRONG CHURCH.
- 12:45 IT'S PRETTY UNCLEAR WHETHER >>THAT'S EVER BEEN ACCOMPLISHED,
- 12:49 BUT HE THOUGHT PERHAPS THE >>CRUSADES WOULD ACCOMPLISH THAT.
- 13:27 WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL >>KNIGHTS IN THESE CRUSADES WERE THEY SINCERE?
- 13:33 PROBABLY SOME REALLY WERE.
- 13:34 IT'S NO LAUGHING MATTER TO COME >>FROM ENGLAND OR FRANCE
- 13:39 ALL THE WAY TO THE HOLY LAND BACK IN THOSDAYS.
- 13:42 IT'S A DIFFICULT TRIP IN SOME WAYS EVEN TODAY,
- 13:45 BUT THEY CAME AND THE FOUGHT AND THEY TRIED,
- 13:49 BUT THERE IS ALSO THE REVERSE SIDE.
- 13:52 THEY RECEIVED INDULGENCES FROM >>THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, REMISSION OF SINS,
- 13:57 FREEDOM FROM DEBTS, RELIEF FROM CIVIC CHARGES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
- 14:04 ALL KINDS OF PERSUASIONS UNREAL, >>UNSPIRITUAL, I SHOULD SAY.
- 14:10 IN THAT MANNER THEY ARE NOT UNLIKE THE TERRORIST OF TODAY
- 14:14 OR THE PALESTINIANS OR THE WORLD >>TRADE CENTER ATTACKERS
- 14:17 WHO BELIEVE THEY ARE RECEIVING REMISSIONS OF SINS AND THIS SORT >>OF THING WHEN THEY ATTACK
- 14:24 AND WHEN THEY KILL THE-- WHAT THEY CALL, THE INFIDELS,
- 14:28 THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OR THE AMERICANS OR WHOMEVER THEY MAY KILL.
- 14:33 THERE WAS THAT AND THEN SOME OF >>THESE KNIGHTS HAD DEBTS
- 14:37 THAT THEY OWED TO JEWISH PEOPLE IN EUROPE.
- 14:40 THAT WAS RELIEVED IF THEY WENT >>IN A CRUSADE,
- 14:42 NEVERMIND THE JEWISH PERSON THAT >>LENT THE MONEY,
- 14:44 HE JUST DIDN'T GET PAID AND THE KNIGHT GOT FREED FROM THE DEBT.
- 14:49 THERE WERE 3 CRUSADES.
- 14:50 I'M NOT GOING TO ATTEMPT TO DESCRIBE THEM IN DETAIL
- 14:52 OTHER HOW THEY AFFECTED THIS LAND AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
- 14:56 12,000 JEWISH PEOPLE WERE KILLED ON ROUTE IN THE FIRST CRUSADE.
- 15:01 THAT IS ONCE THESE ARMIES GOT A HEAD OF STEAM AND STARTED MARCHING,
- 15:05 WHY THEY JUST KILLED JEWS WHEREVER THEY FOUND THEM,
- 15:07 THE IDEA BEING THAT JEWS WERE GUILTY OF DEICIDE,
- 15:09 THEY WERE GOING TO GO RESCUE THE LAND OF GOD SO THEY WOULD KILL >>THEM ON THE WAY.
- 15:14 THERE WERE MORE KILLED IN ISRAEL >>IN THE SECOND CRUSADE.
- 15:16 TO THIS DAY, THE CROSS THAT THESE ARMIES CARRIED IS >>ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN IN ISRAEL.
- 15:24 THEY DON'T USE A PLUS SIGN IN >>ARITHMETIC BECAUSE IT LOOKS TOO >>MUCH LIKE THE CROSS.
- 15:29 THIS IS TRUE OF MUSLIMS TOO, BY THE WAY.
- 15:31 THEY ASKED THE SWISS EMBASSY TO TAKE THEIR FLAG DOWN
- 15:35 BECAUSE IT HAS A CROSS ON IT AND THEY RESENT THE CROSS.
- 15:39 IT JUST CAUSED TOO MANY DEATHS.
- 15:42 IT CAUSED TERRIBLE ATTACKS ALL >>OVER THE HOLY LAND.
- 15:45 THERE WERE ATTACKS IN THE 2ND CRUSADE ON NAZARETH, ON SOFFED,
- 15:51 ON AKKAR UP THE COAST AND IN THE >>3RD CRUSADE,
- 15:55 BY THAT TIME, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT LATE 13TH CENTURY OR MIDDLE 13TH CENTURY
- 16:00 THE EUROPEANS HELD AN AREA ALONG >>THE COAST, VERY STRONG, FROM >>TYRE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO JAFFA.
- 16:06 THAT IS FROM UP IN LEBANON TO SOUTH OF WHERE TEL AVIV IS TODAY.
- 16:10 BUT THEY EVENTUALLY WERE ROUTED, >>ARAB SOLDIERS WITH A MUCH SHORTED SUPPLY LINE
- 16:15 █
- 16:16 CAME ON IN GREAT NUMBERS AND CHASED THEM BACK, CASTLE TO CASTLE.
- 16:22 THEY RETREATED NORTHWARD UP THE COAST AND IN THE END
- 16:25 THOSE THAT COULD NOT FIND A RIDE OUT OF HERE ON SHIPS, TENDED TO >>MERGE WITH THE LOCAL PEOPLE.
- 16:32 I THINK THEY PUT ON HEADDRESSES OR WHATEVER IT TOOK AND TOOK OFF >>THEIR ARMOR
- 16:36 AND WANDERED OUT INTO THE SOCIETIES AND TO THIS DAY,
- 16:39 YOU SEE REDHEADED AND BLONDE CHILDREN AMONG THE ARABS HERE PARTICULARLY
- 16:47 WHO EVIDENTLY GO BACK TO CRUSADERS.
- 16:50 I MEAN, LITTLE KIDS WITH >>FRECKLES AND LIGHT COMPLEXIONS
- 16:53 THAT EVIDENTLY GO BACK TO A CRUSADER PROGENITOR
- 16:57 BECAUSE THE CRUSADER WITH NO RETREAT LEFT TO THEM,
- 17:01 SHIPS DON'T EXACTLY PULL UP JUST >>WHEN YOU NEED THEM AND WHEN YOU'RE ATTACKED,
- 17:05 THERE'S ALMOST NO CHOICE AND >>THEY INTERMARRIED IN THE SOCIETY
- 17:10 AND BECAME MIDDLE EASTERNERS IN A WAY.
- 17:12 AND THE 3RD CRUSADE WAS THE END >>OF THE IDEA.
- 17:14 THEY DID NOT SUCCEED IN TAKING >>THE HOLY LAND AWAY FROM THOSE THEY CALLED THE INFIDELS
- 17:19 ANYMORE THAN WE'VE SUCCEEDED WITH OUR ROADMAP OR OUR OSLO AGREEMENT
- 17:23 OR ANYTHING ELSE TO TAKE LAND AWAY FROM THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.
- 17:28 WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS, THIS IS GOD'S COUNTRY.
- 17:33 THIS IS NOT SOME POLITICAL ENTITY HERE.
- 17:35 FOR DIVIDING IT OR CHANGING THE BOUNDARIES, HISTORY HAS PROVED >>THAT YOU GET EXTINCTION.
- 17:40 I MEAN, LOOK THE BABYLONIANS, THE PERSIANS THE GREEKS, >>THE ROMANS, THEY'RE ALL EXTINCT.
- 17:46 THE CRUSADERS CAME AND WENT, THE ARABS OF TODAY ARE COMING ON STRONG,
- 17:52 BUT I DON'T THINK THEY WILL EITHER SURVIVE TO TAKE THIS HOLY LAND, OF COURSE NOT.
- 18:07 A VERY STRONG VERSE FOR THE TIMES
- 18:10 AND SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE >>REMAINS OF ONE OF THESE FORTIFIED CASTLES
- 18:16 WITH IT'S TREMENDOUS WALL, IT'S DEEP MOATS
- 18:18 THROUGH WHICH THEY INTENDED TO PUSH SEA WATER TO DEFEND THEM- SELVES AGAINST THE LOCALS HERE.
- 18:24 THAT DIDN'T WORK. >>IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T BRING PEACE. IT BROUGHT NOTHING BUT MURDER.
- 18:29 IT GAVE A BAD NAME TO CHRISTIANS >>IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
- 18:34 IT WAS ALREADY A RIVALRY BETWEEN >>ISLAM WHICH IN IT'S TIME,
- 18:39 TO GIVE IT CREDIT, WAS A SUCCESSFUL SOCIETY
- 18:43 AND A PRODUCTIVE AND INTELLIGENT SOCIETY.
- 18:47 EUROPEAN CHRISTIANITY WHICH WAS >>AN UPSTART AT THE TIME,
- 18:51 BUT IT STARTED MORE THAN A RIVALRY, IT STARTED A DOWN-RIGHT WAR.
- 18:55 THAT WAR HAS BEEN ON PRETTY MUCH EVER SINCE.
- 18:58 WE ARE SEEING THE RESULTS OF IT >>TODAY AS THE MIDDLE EAST TURNS AROUND
- 19:02 AND CRUSADES AGAINST THE WEST >>AS IN THE ATTACKS ON ISRAEL OR >>ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER
- 19:08 OR THE VARIOUS EUROPEAN CAPITALS >>AND EVEN IN THE FAR EAST
- 19:12 WHERE THERE'S BEEN MUSLIM TERRORISM AGAINST THE REST OF THE WORLD.
- 19:18 THE MUSLIM-CHRISTIAN RIVALRY GOES ON.
- 19:20 IT DIDN'T EXACTLY START AT THE CRUSADES, BUT THEY DIDN'T MAKE >>IT ANY BETTER
- 19:24 AND WE ARE LIVING IN A KIND OF >>RESULT OF THESE ILL-FATED CRUSADES.
- 19:31 RA'ANAN GISSIN WAS ALWAYS VERY KIND TO US WHEN HE WAS A COLONEL IN THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES.
- 19:39 HE WAS A SPOKESMAN FOR THAT ISRAELI ARMY AND HE IS WELL SPOKEN IN ENGLISH
- 19:45 AND HE HAS NOW RISEN TO THE LEVEL OF THE SENIOR ADVISOR AND SPOKESMAN
- 19:50 FOR THE PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL, ARIEL SHARON.
- 19:54 WE WENT TO THE KNESSET TO TALK WITH HIM.
- 19:55 HIS OFFICE IS THERE IN THE PARLIAMENT OF THE COUNTRY.
- 19:58 THAT WAS QUITE A BIT OF SECURITY TO GET IN THERE WITH OUR CAMERAS >>BUT WE PASSED THROUGH.
- 20:04 WE WERE ABLE TO INTERVIEW HIM.
- 20:06 WE BEGIN OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE SLANT THAT THE MEDIA TAKES >>ABOUT ISRAEL.
- 20:12 SO, ON FOX NEWS >>WHICH YOU HAVE ON IN YOUR OFFICE >>AS WE WALKED IN,
- 20:17 WE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, >>LIKE HERE'S A STORY FROM IRAQ, >>HERE'S A STORY FROM EGYPT,
- 20:24 NOW TURNING TO THE MIDDLE EAST. >>RIGHT.
- 20:28 AS IF ISRAEL--
- 20:28 ALL THESE ARE LIKE SIDELINE STORIES AND THE REAL STORY THAT IS GOING ON
- 20:34 IS THIS WAR, THIS CONFLICT BETWEEN AND ISRAELIS WHERE THERE'S NO RESOLUTION.
- 20:41 IT'S THE CONFLICT THAT ALL THE OTHER CONFLICTS DWARF IN COMPARISON TO IT.
- 20:47 THIS IS THE MEDIA'S PERSPECTIVE >>AND IF YOU TALK TO ME,
- 20:50 WHAT IS THE MOST CRITICAL ISSUE >>OR CRITICAL CONFLICT TODAY GOING ON
- 20:57 WHICH HAS FAR REACHING >>IMPLICATIONS FOR THE STABILITY >>OF THE REGION,
- 21:00 STABILITY OF THE WORLD, I'D SAY IRAN.
- 21:02 NOT THIS CONFLICT WHICH IS INSTITUTIONALIZED CONTAINED MORE OR LESS, YES.
- 21:09 THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT SEEM TO BE WITH NO SOLUTION AT THE TIME,
- 21:15 BUT ATTRACTABLE, BUT I THINK AS >>WE MOVE ALONG
- 21:18 WE'VE SEEN THAT THIS CONFLICT HAS CHANGED IN SHAPE
- 21:21 AND WE MOVED A LONG WAY TOWARDS >>A SOLUTION IN THIS CONFLICT.
- 21:25 CASUALTY FOR CASUALTY EVEN NOW, >>DAY BY DAY,
- 21:28 THERE ARE MORE CASUALTIES AMONG >>AMERICAN TROOPS OR COALITION TROOPS IN IRAQ
- 21:33 THAN THERE ARE IN CIVILIANS TO >>TERRORISM HERE.
- 21:38 YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE WAR--
- 21:39 WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING A WAR OF >>TERRORISM FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, WAS IMPOSED ON US.
- 21:43 DAY AND NIGHT, WE HAD THE HORRENDOUS SUICIDE BOMBING ATTACKS,
- 21:49 I THINK OVER 125 OR 130 OF THEM >>WHO SUCCEEDED TO PENETRATE.
- 21:54 OUR CASUALTY RATE IN THE PAST 3 YEARS HAS BEEN 892 IN COMPARABLE >>TERMS IN THE UNITED STATES
- 22:03 THAT WOULD BE A KEY TO 49,000 >>MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN KILLED >>IN TERRORISTIC ACTION.
- 22:10 WE'RE A SMALL COUNTRY, SO CASUALTIES ARE FELT VERY DEEPLY.
- 22:14 WE HAVE WHOLE FAMILIES THAT WERE >>WIPED OUT HERE.
- 22:16 BUT THE POINT IS THAT OTHER SOCIETIES WOULD HAVE PROBABLY GONE INTO DESPAIR
- 22:25 OR YOU'D SEE THEM DISINTEGRATE.
- 22:27 BUT THERE IS SOMETHING, NOT MYSTICAL,
- 22:30 BUT SOMETHING HISTORICAL ABOUT >>THE JEWISH PEOPLE
- 22:34 THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM >>TO SURVIVE FOR 4,000 YEARS CONTINUOUSLY
- 22:40 AFTER THEY'VE BEEN PERSECUTED >>AND DRIVEN OUT OF THEIR LAND AND THEN HAD TO SUFFER 65 YEARS AGO,
- 22:47 A HOLOCAUST, WHERE 1/3 OF OUR PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND STILL LIKE THE PHOENIX,
- 22:53 WE RISE OUT OF THE ASHES.
- 22:54 SO THERE IS SOMETHING TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD DESCRIBE IT AND SAY
- 22:57 THAT MAYBE THERE IS SURVIVAL >>GENES IMPRINTED ON OUR DNA CODE
- 23:02 WHICH MAKE US A RESILIENT NATION.
- 23:05 WELL, THE PROOF OF THE PUDDING IS YOU AND I TALKED MORE THAN A >>DECADE AGO
- 23:11 AND YOU SAID THIS SAME THING.
- 23:11 YOU SAID AT THAT TIME I THINK YOU PUT IT, OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE EXUBERANT, ENTHUSIASTIC
- 23:18 THE SOCIETY IS MOVING AND GENERATING AND IT'S PROVED, I GUESS.
- 23:23 I THINK YOU AS, A JOURNALIST WHO TRAVELS AROUND THE WORLD AND YOU >>SEE VARIOUS PEOPLE,
- 23:30 DIFFERENT SOCIETIES UNDER ANGUISH OR CONFLICT
- 23:33 AND I THINK ONE OF THE BEST WAYS >>TO JUDGE THE RESILIENCE, THE TENACITY OF THE SOCIETY,
- 23:40 THE VIBRANCY OF IT IS TO LOOK IN THE EYES OF CHILDREN.
- 23:44 HERE WE'VE BEEN UNDER WAR FOR 3 YEARS,
- 23:48 BUT YOU SEE THE BRIGHT HOPE IN >>THE EYES OF CHILDREN HERE
- 23:52 AND IF YOU LOOK AT CHILDREN IN >>CAMBODIA, FOR EXAMPLE, OR VIET NAM,
- 23:58 IT'S A DEAD-LOOK IN THEIR EYE.
- 23:59 AND THIS IS A GOOD INDICATION ABOUT WHAT THE SOCIETY IS ALL ABOUT PERHAPS,
- 24:06 YOU KNOW, A VISUAL INDICATION, >>IT'S A VIBRANT SOCIETY.
- 24:08 AND I WOULD NOT DENY THAT WE >>HAVE SOME DEGENERATION OF CELLS >>OR PART OF OUR SOCIETY
- 24:15 WHICH ARE DEGENERATING AND ARE >>NOT FUNCTIONING AS WE WANT,
- 24:20 THERE IS A WIDE GAP, A SOCIO-ECONOMIC GAP.
- 24:22 WE HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH REGARD TO WHAT SHOULD BE THE DEFINITION OF THE STATE.
- 24:31 SHOULD IT BE A JEWISH STATE OR A >>STATE OF ALL IT'S CITIZENS,
- 24:34 REAL CRITICAL ISSUES THAT ARE BEING DEBATED.
- 24:36 BUT IT'S A VIBRANT SOCIETY THAT >>WHERE YOU SEE, PERHAPS, INSOLUBLE CONFLICTS
- 24:44 AND THE POSSIBILITY OF FALLING >>APART AT THE SEAMS,
- 24:47 YOU ALSO SEE A REGENERATION OF >>THE SOCIETY AND THAT REGENERATION COMES ABOUT
- 24:54 BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION THAT COMES TO ISRAEL.
- 24:56 ABOUT 1.2 MILLION IMMIGRANTS CAME FROM THE FORMER SOVIET UNION
- 25:00 AND FROM ETHIOPIA IN LESS THAN >>10 YEARS.
- 25:03 IN OTHER WORDS, 10 OR 12 YEARS AGO, WE WERE 4 MILLION JEWS IN >>THIS COUNTRY.
- 25:08 NOW WE ARE OVER 5.4 MILLION AND ALL TOGETHER 6.5 MILLION PEOPLE >>LIVE IN THIS STATE.
- 25:15 SO WITH ALL THOSE DOOM-SAYERS >>THAT SAY WELL, ISRAEL IS FALLING >>APART AT THE SEAMS,
- 25:20 ISRAEL HAS NO FUTURE, EVENTUALLY >>IT'S GOING TO DISINTEGRATE OR >>TURN INTO A BI-NATIONAL STATE,
- 25:27 I JUST DRAW YOU TO THE STATISTICS.
- 25:29 IN 1948, 55 YEARS AGO,THERE WERE >>ONLY 600,000
- 25:34 AND IN THE 30'S THERE WERE ONLY >>400,000 LIVING HERE.
- 25:38 AND TODAY TO A SOCIETY OF 6.5 MILLION PEOPLE, A VIBRANT ECONOMY,
- 25:42 A PEOPLE WHO ARE LEADING TODAY >>IN THE HIGH-TECH INDUSTRY, IN MEDICINE.
- 25:49 WE BUILT SCIENTIFIC AND RESEARCH INSTITUTION.
- 25:52 WE REVIVED THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS 2,000 YEARS DEAD, THE HEBREW LANGUAGE,
- 25:57 BECAUSE WE ABSORB PEOPLE COMING FROM 102 COUNTRIES, SPEAKING 82 >>DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.
- 26:05 WHAT LANGUAGE COULD THEY SPEAK?
- 26:07 ONE OF THE GREATEST ACHIEVEMENTS, I WOULD SAY WAS REVIVING THE HEBREW LANGUAGE
- 26:13 WHICH WAS THE COMMON LANGUAGE OF >>THESE PEOPLE
- 26:15 COMING FROM ALL DIFFERENT PLACES >>AROUND THE WORLD.
- 26:18 WE'LL HAVE MORE FROM CHIEF ADVISOR, RA'ANAN GISSIN ON OUR NEXT PROGRAM.
- 26:23 AN INTERESTING THING HE SAID WAS THAT JEWISH SURVIVAL IN THE LAND,
- 26:27 HE CALLED IT MYSTICAL SURVIVAL. >>IT'S NOT PRECISELY MYSTICAL, IT'S SCRIPTURAL.
- 26:35 THE BIBLE IS SIMPLY FULL OF THAT.
- 26:37 THE ENTIRE FUTURE OF BOTH THE BELIEVERS AND UNBELIEVERS
- 26:42 IS CONCERNED WITH ISRAEL IN THE LAND.
- 26:43 THE UNBELIEVERS WANT TO GET ISRAEL OUT AND THEY WILL EVEN RESORT TO ARMAGEDDON.
- 26:47 THE BELIEVERS WANT TO JOIN ISRAEL IN THE LAND,
- 26:50 THE BELIEVING ISRAELIS IN THE KINGDOM TO COME
- 26:53 AND WE WANT TO GO IN AND THAT'S >>HOW THE SCRIPTURE IS WRITTEN,
- 26:57 THE JEWS RESTORED TO THE LAND AND THERE IS NOTHING MYSTICAL ABOUT IT.
- 27:01 IT NEEDS SOME BIBLE READING AND >>IT'S UNDERSTOOD COMPLETELY.
- 27:05 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, >>PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.