Caption transcript for “From Time Immemorial” with Joan Peters, Part 2

• 00:09 BRETHREN, MY HEART'S DESIRE AND PRAYER TO GOD FOR ISRAEL IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED.
• 00:15 THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GENTILE,
• 00:18 FOR THE SAME LORD OVERALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
• 00:24 ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS
• 00:28 CONSIDERING THE TIMES AND SEASONS OF OUR WORLD TODAY, HERE'S ZOLA LEVITT.
• 00:35 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
• 00:37 WE'RE BACK WITH JOAN PETERS THIS WEEK.
• 00:39 WE HAD QUITE A LENGTHY INTERVIEW WITH HER AND I SURE ENJOYED IT.
• 00:42 SHE'S THE AUTHOR OF "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL",
• 00:45 A TEXTBOOK IN USE IN THE UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL.
• 00:49 IT SHOULD BE READ BY EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
• 00:51 "THE ORIGINS OF THE ARAB-JEWISH CONFLICT OVER PALESTINE".
• 00:56 MS. PETERS SERVED AS WHITE HOUSE ADVISOR ON AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY
• 01:00 IN THE MIDDLE EAST DURING THE CARTER ADMINISTRATION.
• 01:02 SHE'S LECTURED THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT.
• 01:05 [SHE] APPARENTLY HASN'T SAID ENOUGH.
• 01:06 SHE'S APPEARED ON 200 RADIO AND TELEVISION PROGRAMS.
• 01:10 I COULD GO ON AND ON; WRITTEN IN HARPER'S COMMENTARY, THE NEW REPUBLIC,
• 01:13 THE NEW LEADER AND OTHER PERIODICALS.
• 01:16 SHE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO BE OUR GUEST.
• 01:18 YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIVING IN A TIME OF SUCH CONFLICT.
• 01:21 THE SCRIPTURE ALLUDES TO IT. PSALM 83 SAYS,
• 01:33 AND IT LISTS A BUNCH OF BASICALLY ARAB TRIBES PLOTTING AGAINST ISRAEL.
• 01:38 IT SAYS IN VERSE 12,
• 01:45 THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SEEMS TO BE GOING ON IN TODAY'S WORLD.
• 01:48 JOAN PETERS IS THE EXPERT WHO CAN COMMENT ON IT.
• 01:52 SHE'S GONE OVER THERE, SHE'S TALKED TO THEM.
• 01:54 SHE'S RESEARCHED THIS SUBJECT THOROUGHLY.
• 01:57 WE OPENED OUR DISCUSSION WITH HER TALKING ABOUT OUR DANGEROUS DEPENDENCE ON ARAB OIL.
• 02:03 WE MUST FIND A WAY TO BECOME TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF THE ARAB-MUSLIM STATES
• 02:09 WHICH ARE HOLDING US AT BAY WITH BLACKMAIL.
• 02:13 WE DON'T NEED THEIR OIL.
• 02:14 WE CAN FIND OIL MANY OTHER PLACES.
• 02:17 WE DON'T NEED THE ARAB OIL AT ALL.
• 02:19 WE CAN DO TOTALLY WITHOUT IT.
• 02:23 THAT'S BLASPHEMOUS BY ITSELF, BUT IT'S THE FACT.
• 02:27 THEY HAVE BEEN PREVENTING THE WORLD FROM MOVING ON
• 02:32 AND THEY'VE BEEN PREVENTING THEIR OWN BROTHERS
• 02:34 FROM BECOMING PROGRESSIVE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES.
• 02:38 THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THOSE COUNTRIES WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE MUCH MORE DEMOCRATIC,
• 02:43 WHO WOULD LIKE TO LIVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF LIFE,
• 02:46 BUT DON'T DARE EVEN MUTTER A WORD ABOUT IT
• 02:50 BECAUSE AS ONE OF THE TELEVISION DIRECTORS IN CAIRO TOLD ME,
• 02:55 THE NEWS IS A PYRAMID AND IT ALL STARTS AT THE TOP.
• 03:03 YOU KNOW, I OFTEN THINK WHEN YOU TRAVEL IN THE MIDDLE EAST
• 03:07 YOU REALIZE THAT CNN IS BROADCASTING,
• 03:09 THAT ARABS ARE SEEING WOMEN EMPOWERED, LIKE YOURSELF;
• 03:15 ATTRACTIVE, NOT COVERED WITH SLEEPING BAGS, OR SILLY ROBES
• 03:18 OR WHATEVER AND THAT THAT MUST GET UNDER THEIR SKIN.
• 03:23 THEY SEE OUR MOVIES.
• 03:25 THEY SEE THAT WE HAVE NICE THINGS.
• 03:28 I MEAN, THIS IS NORMAL HUMAN LIFE.
• 03:30 THEY MUST WANT WHAT WE HAVE.
• 03:32 THEY SURELY DON'T WANT TO TURN US INTO THEM.
• 03:35 I MEAN, DO THEY WANT TO CREATE A WORLD WHERE 50% OF THE POPULATION IS ENSLAVED
• 03:42 AND COVERED UP LIKE WOMEN AND EVERYBODY IS LIVING MEDIEVAL, FUTILE LIFESTYLE.
• 03:48 IS THAT WHAT THEY WANT?
• 03:50 I THINK IT'S NOT EVEN COHERENT.
• 03:53 WHAT THEY WANT IS VISCERAL AND WHAT THEY WANT IS TO BE THE POWERFUL.
• 03:59 AND THEY WANT EVERYTHING TO BE BENEATH THEM.
• 04:02 THE KORAN DOES SAY THAT NO ONE SHALL BE EQUAL TO, BUT MUST BE BENEATH THE MUSLIMS
• 04:12 AND THAT ALL INFIDELS MUST BE SUBJECT TO THE WHIM OF THE MUSLIMS
• 04:18 AND THAT IS THE WAY WE MUST ACCEPT THE MUSLIM WORLD.
• 04:23 WE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY
• 04:28 YOU KNOW, I WAS DOING THIS BOOK FOR 10 YEARS AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
• 04:35 THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO HELPED ME.
• 04:36 I NEVER COULD HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT ARAB HELP.
• 04:40 BUT, AS IT TURNED OUT, MOST OF THE ARAB HELP I HAD WAS CHRISTIAN.
• 04:45 THERE WERE VERY FEW WITHIN THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY WHO HAD ANY INTEREST IN HELPING.
• 04:51 THEY WERE BROUGHT UP ON THE TEXT BOOKS I QUOTE IN MY BOOK.
• 04:55 YOU KNOW, THE BOOK IS FILLED WITH NOTHING BUT ALL THE MATERIALS
• 05:02 THE ARABS HAVE GROWN UP WITH AND THE REASON THAT THEY ARE THE WAY THEY ARE.
• 05:07 UNLESS WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, WE CAN'T CORRECT ANYTHING.
• 05:14 THE ARABS HAVE VICTIMS NOW.
• 05:17 THERE IS A PEOPLE WHO GREW UP RECENTLY WHO THINK OF THEMSELVES AS PALESTINIANS
• 05:25 BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN CREATED AS THE HUMAN BOMB.
• 05:29 IT BEHOOVES OUR COUNTRY, IT BEHOOVES OUR STATE DEPARTMENT,
• 05:34 IT BEHOOVES OUR ACADEMICS NOT TO COW-TOW, TO ACCOMMODATE,
• 05:41 TO BECOME OBSEQUIOUS TO THE ARABS WHO WANT US TO LIE, BUT TO TELL THE TRUTH.
• 05:49 AND THEN, FROM THE POINT OF KNOWING, WE CAN BEGIN A BARGAINING POSITION.
• 05:55 WE HAVE TO KNOW AND THEY HAVE TO KNOW THAT WE KNOW
• 05:59 THAT WE'RE COMING TO THIS POSITION FROM STRENGTH AND NOT FROM WEAKNESS.
• 06:04 THAT'S WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING RIGHT.
• 06:08 WE HAVE A WAR ON TERRORISM, WE SAY.
• 06:11 BUT HOW CAN YOU CALL IT A WAR ON TERRORISM WHEN IT'S MUSLIM TERRORISTS?
• 06:16 THESE ARE ISLAMIC TERRORISTS. MOST OF THEM WERE SAUDIS.
• 06:22 THEY HAVE BEEN FED, CLOTHED AND SPIRITUALLY PROVIDED FOR BY THE SAUDI ARABIANS
• 06:31 AND BY IRAQ IN SOME CASES, BUT THE ARAB BILLIONS HAVE PROVIDED ALL THE HATRED AGAINST US.
• 06:41 HOW IS IT THAT WE CAN'T ACCEPT THAT?
• 06:46 AND WHY DON'T WE REFLECT THAT THE BILLIONS WERE OURS ORIGINALLY?
• 06:48 [LAUGHING]
• 06:50 THAT WE'VE GIVEN THE MONEY TO THEM FOR OIL THAT, LIKE YOU SAY,
• 06:53 WE DON'T EVEN REALLY NEED TO BUY
• 06:55 THAT'S REALLY TRUE.
• 06:57 I MEAN, WE GET THE MONEY UP, WE PRINT IT, WE GIVE IT TO THEM, THEY USE IT TO BUY WEAPONS.
• 06:59 THEY FLY PLANES INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER AND NOW WE HAVE A WAR;
• 07:02 NOT ON MUSLIMS OR ISLAM ITSELF, BUT ON TERRORISM.
• 07:09 DO WE HAVE A WAR ON TERRORISM WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
• 07:12 WELL, I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE A WAR ON TERRORISM IN NAME.
• 07:18 WE'VE BEEN BOMBING WEDDINGS IN AFGHANISTAN.
• 07:21 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A FAIR ANSWER FOR ME TO GIVE YOU.
• 07:26 I'M SURE THAT WAS A MISTAKE THAT ANYBODY COULD HAVE MADE UNDER OUR SITUATION.
• 07:29 LIKE THE ISRAELIS AT JENIN.
• 07:31 I WONDER WHY, NOW,THERE'S NOT A COMMISSION TO SEE IF WE DID A MASSACRE.
• 07:34 OH, BUT THEY DID. THEY DID DO IT.
• 07:36 THEY COULDN'T FIND ANY. THERE WAS NO MASSACRE.
• 07:38 NO, OF COURSE NOT.
• 07:39 IT WAS TOTALLY MADE OUT OF WHOLE CLOTH.
• 07:42 IT WAS COMPLETELY A LIE.
• 07:43 IN JENIN, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT IN AFGHANISTAN WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING.
• 07:46 WE'VE HAD SOME CIVILIAN CASUALTIES AS PART OF OUR BATTLE.
• 07:50 WELL IT WASN'T THE SAME AS JENIN.
• 07:52 JENIN WAS A MADE UP MASSACRE. IT NEVER HAPPENED.
• 07:55 THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
• 07:55 YES.
• 07:56 WE DIDN'T MEAN TO MASSACRE THESE PEOPLE.
• 07:58 WELL, THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
• 07:59 BUT YOU CAN ACCUSE THE ISRAELIS OF THIS REASONABLY IN THE U.N.
• 08:02 NO ONE WOULD DARE ACCUSE THE AMERICANS OF THIS.
• 08:04 OH, THEY WILL.
• 08:07 YOU THINK THEY WILL?
• 08:08 OH, YES. I THINK EVENTUALLY THEY WILL.
• 08:10 THERE WERE ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER OF CASUALTIES.
• 08:12 IT STRUCK ME THAT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO ENCOUNTERS, REALLY,
• 08:16 WAS THE ISRAELIS WERE WILLING TO GO HOUSE TO HOUSE AND TAKE CASUALTIES ON THEIR OWN
• 08:20 AND OUR GUYS WERE FLYING 15,000 FEET IN THE AIR THROWING BOMBS DOWN
• 08:23 AND ONE OF THEM GOT OUT OF LINE. WE DIDN'T EVEN TAKE THE CHANCE.
• 08:27 WELL, IN THE CASE OF THE ISRAELIS, NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS
• 08:30 WOULD HAVE LET THAT LAND REMAIN IN THE HANDS OF ARABS AFTER WHAT THEY DID SO FAR.
• 08:35 THEY WOULD HAVE GONE IN AND TAKEN THE LAND BACK.
• 08:37 THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE LET THE ARABS KEEP IT.
• 08:40 THE FACT THAT THEY ARE GOING HOUSE TO HOUSE AND GOING INTO THOSE HUMAN BOMB SITES,
• 08:45 THE CAMPS, WHICH THE ARABS HAVE PURPOSELY KEPT AS TWISTED AND HORRIBLE RATS NESTS,
• 08:53 THEY'RE NOT BAD, BY THE WAY, PHYSICALLY TO LIVE IN.
• 08:57 THEY'RE TOWNS. BUT, THEY HAVE THE MOST UNIMPORTANT THINGS ARE THE PHYSICAL QUALITIES.
• 09:04 WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE IS IDENTITY.
• 09:06 YES.
• 09:07 THEY'VE BEEN PREVENTED FROM HAVING ONLY, FROM ANYTHING BUT ONE IDENTITY.
• 09:11 THE ONLY IDENTITY THEY'VE BEEN ALLOWED TO HAVE IS THE TERRORIST IDENTITY.
• 09:15 I KNOW THAT IF THEY WERE OFFERED THE KIND OF FREEDOM, THE KIND OF INDUSTRY,
• 09:24 THE KIND OF HEALTH BENEFITS THAT THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL HAVE ON THE EAST BANK OF THE JORDAN RIVER
• 09:30 IN JORDAN, WHICH IS A PALESTINIAN STATE WHERE 80% OF THE PEOPLE ARE PALESTINIAN
• 09:36 DID YOU KNOW THAT?
• 09:37 DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS 80%.
• 09:39 YES,THE PARLIAMENT, 80% OF THEM.
• 09:43 AND, IF YOU SELL LAND TO A JEW IN JORDAN, IT'S PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.
• 09:47 BY DEATH?
• 09:48 BY DEATH.
• 09:49 I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT EITHER.
• 09:50 THAT WAS OUR FRIENDLY COUNTRY.
• 09:52 THAT'S RIGHT. THEY'RE CONSIDERED THE--
• 09:54 BUT, IN THEIR LAW BOOKS AND ON THEIR LAWS STILL EXISTS THAT IF--
• 10:00 IT'S A STATUTE THAT'S VERY CLEAR, THAT TO SELL LAND TO A JEW
• 10:05 IS PROHIBITED AND PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.
• 10:10 ARE THERE ANY LANDS ANYWHERE WHERE JEWS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO LIVE EXCEPT ARAB LANDS?
• 10:15 OH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED TO LIVE IN ARAB LANDS.
• 10:17 THERE ARE SOME JEWS LIVING IN POVERTY AND MISERY IN--
• 10:21 WELL, LET'S SAY BUYING PROPERTY--
• 10:22 THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED EQUALITY.
• 10:25 NO. IF YOU WANTED TO BUY PROPERTY, LET'S SAY,
• 10:27 A JEW COULD BUY PROPERTY IN CHINA, IN RUSSIA, IN EUROPE, IN AMERICA,
• 10:30 BUT I DON'T THINK A JEW COULD BUY PROPERTY IN ANY ARAB LAND.
• 10:34 I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
• 10:36 I KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY.
• 10:38 THAT THE JEWS HAVE FLED.
• 10:39 OH, YEAH.
• 10:41 BECAUSE IT WAS EITHER THAT, AFTER THE 1948 WAR OR THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SLAUGHTERED,
• 10:46 SOME OF THEM WERE, OR HANGED AS ZIONIST SPIES.
• 10:51 LET ME SAY THIS: WE DON'T HAVE MANY JOURNALIST, AUTHORS, ETC. ON OUR PROGRAM,
• 10:57 SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THIS SUBJECT VERY WELL.
• 11:02 WHAT MAKES YOU SO DIFFERENT FROM YOUR PEERS?
• 11:04 I MEAN, WE HAVE TALKED WITH CAL THOMAS, JOSEPH FARAH, SOME BRIGHT PEOPLE.
• 11:10 JOSEPH FARAH, YES.
• 11:12 AND I'M NOT PICKING THEM FOR THEIR POINT OF VIEW, BUT I'M PICKING THEM FOR KNOWLEDGE,
• 11:14 BUT YOU ARE CERTAINLY A PEER AND MORE SO, YOU'VE WRITTEN A SPLENDID BOOK.
• 11:20 IT'S ONE OF THE SCARIEST BOOKS I EVER READ, BY THE WAY.
• 11:22 SCARY?
• 11:23 I FEAR FOR THE WHOLE FUTURE OF THIS WORLD AFTER I READ THIS BOOK.
• 11:26 DO YOU? PLEASE DON'T, BECAUSE THE BOOK SHOULD MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER.
• 11:29 IT MEANS THAT THE FACTS ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE BIBLE PROMISED
• 11:37 AND THEY'RE ALSO IN LINE WITH WHAT THE JEWS HAVE BEEN SAYING. THEY DO DESERVE REDEMPTION.
• 11:43 THIS IS TRUE.
• 11:45 THEY HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO THE WORLD'S MOST INFAMOUS, MOST HORRIFIC CRIMES
• 11:51 AND NOW THEY HAVE FINALLY GOT THEIR COUNTRY,
• 11:53 TOO LATE TO PREVENT THE HOLOCAUST, BUT YOU KNOW THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD THEIR COUNTRY.
• 11:59 IT WAS GIVEN TO THEM IN 1920.
• 12:01 YEAH.
• 12:03 AND IF THEY HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO KEEP THAT LAND IN THE 20'S AND 30'S INSTEAD
• 12:09 OF THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT OPERATING IT'S MANDATE OF PALESTINE IN THE BREACH,
• 12:13 AND PREVENTING JEWS FROM COMING IN AND LETTING ARABS COME IN.
• 12:17 THESE ARABS, FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL
• 12:19 WERE GIVEN FALSE PAPERS AND THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT HONORED THEM AS NATIVES
• 12:25 AND THEN SAID THE LAND WAS TOO FULL TO TAKE JEWS, SO, THERE WAS NO JEWISH NATIONAL HOME,
• 12:31 EVEN THOUGH THE INTERNATIONAL LEAGUE OF NATIONS HAD MANDATED THAT HOME.
• 12:35 THIS IS WHAT I MEAN BY SCARY.
• 12:37 I MEAN, I'M READING ABOUT ONE OF THE MODERN NATIONS, ONE OF OUR CLOSEST ALLIES, BRITAIN.
• 12:41 I READ WHAT YOU SAID AND IT'S UNQUESTIONABLY DOCUMENTED HERE.
• 12:45 OH, MANY BRITAINS HAVE ALSO WRITTEN IT.
• 12:46 IT'S TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE.
• 12:49 I HAVE SOME SOURCES WHO ARE BRITISH.
• 12:51 AND, YOU KNOW, THE BRITISH LOVE TO HATE THEMSELVES.
• 12:52 WHEN MY BOOK CAME OUT IN ENGLAND,THERE WAS A DIFFERENT COPY.
• 12:55 IT WAS IN ENGLISH INSTEAD OF AMERICAN.
• 12:57 IN BRITISH, HUH?
• 12:58 IT WAS SO POPULAR IT WAS IN HEROD'S WINDOW.
• 13:00 IT WAS ONE OF THE 2 SPRING PICKS
• 13:02 IN HEROD'S? THAT'S AN ARAB STORE.
• 13:04 [LAUGHS]
• 13:06 HEROD'S, YES!
• 13:06 THAT'S RIGHT.
• 13:08 WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YEAH.
• 13:09 IT'S AN ARAB STORE.
• 13:10 [LAUGHING]
• 13:11 GOOD LORD.
• 13:13 I'VE BEEN IN HEROD'S AND THE ARABS ARE COMFORTABLE THERE.
• 13:15 [LAUGHING]
• 13:16 GOOD LORD, YOUR HUMOR IS STAGGERING.
• 13:17 LOOK, THE BOOK SHINES A LIGHT IN A BASEMENT, BUT, UNFORTUNATELY,
• 13:21 THAT LIGHT SHOWS ME ALL KIND OF MONSTERS.
• 13:23 THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
• 13:25 WELL, I'M PLANNING TO GO-- I'M TRYING TO GET AN INVITATION NOW TO TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS
• 13:30 AND HOPEFULLY THE SENATE AS WELL.
• 13:33 I HOPE IT WILL BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
• 13:36 WELL, WHEN THEY COME BACK INTO SESSION.
• 13:38 GOD SPEED, YES.
• 13:39 I THINK, IN THE FALL I WILL BE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THEM--
• 13:45 WELL, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY SAYING IT.
• 13:48 THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE ISRAELIS HAVE GENERAL SHARON NOW AS THEIR PRIME MINISTER.
• 13:56 HE'S A VERY GOOD MAN.
• 13:59 HE IS A VERY FAIR MAN AND I ONLY HOPE HE LIVES AND REMAINS HEALTHY,
• 14:06 BECAUSE HIS STRENGTH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ISRAEL HAS GOING FOR IT RIGHT NOW.
• 14:11 THERE IS NOT A LOT OF STRENGTH THERE.
• 14:14 YEAH. I AGREE WITH YOU.
• 14:15 I INTERVIEWED HIM AND VISITED HIM AT HIS RANCH.
• 14:19 IN HIS HOME ENVIRONMENT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW HIM FROM ANY OTHER RANCHER RAISING LAMBS.
• 14:25 HE STEPPED OUT OF A SHOT WITH A TV CAMERA RUNNING TO PICK UP A BABY LAMB THAT WAS CRYING.
• 14:31 THIS IS NOT WHAT IS DESCRIBED IN THE PRESS AT ALL.
• 14:34 NO. WELL, THE PRESS HAS GOTTEN A FIX ON THIS JEWISH STATE
• 14:42 AS THOUGH WE WERE THE ONES WHO DID THE LYNCHING AND SLAVERY IN THE SOUTH.
• 14:47 OH, YES.
• 14:49 THEY HAVE SORT OF PUT US TOGETHER WITH ALL THE RACISTS.
• 14:57 THE AMERICANS ARE RACIST, THEREFORE, IF THE AMERICANS ARE RACIST,
• 15:02 THEN SO ARE THE ISRAELIS BECAUSE THE ISRAELIS ARE A DEMOCRACY.
• 15:08 IF EVER ANYTHING WAS FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
• 15:12 AND HOW DO YOU SAY IT'S A RACIAL PROBLEM, ANYWAY?
• 15:14 I'VE HEARD THIS FOR YEARS AND YOU CAN'T TELL AN ARAB FROM A JEW WALKING DOWN THE STREET.
• 15:18 THEY'RE OF THE SAME RACE AS FAR AS RACE GOES.
• 15:21 IT'S NOT LIKE CAUCASIAN PEOPLE AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE.
• 15:25 THEY'RE DIFFERENT.
• 15:26 THE ARABS AND THE JEWS ARE PRACTICALLY THE SAME. THEY'RE COUSINS.
• 15:28 EXACTLY.
• 15:29 IT'S NOT A RACIAL SITUATION.
• 15:31 I MEAN, THEY'RE DIFFERENT IN WHAT THEY THINK.
• 15:33 BUT THEIR MIND SET AND THEIR HEARTS ARE TOTALLY--
• 15:38 THE ARABS ARE OVERWHELMED BY DEATH, THAT IS THEIR MAIN OBJECTIVE:
• 15:48 THE DEATH OF THE COUNTRY OF ISRAEL AND FURTHER, THE DEATH OF THE GREAT SATAN.
• 15:54 AND THE ISRAELIS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY OCCUPIED WITH PEACE AT ANY COST,
• 16:02 WHICH MAY COST THEM THE JEWISH STATE IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HELP THEM.
• 16:20 ASK FOR OUR FREE MONTHLY NEWS LETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER
• 16:23 AND OUR CATALOG WITH VIDEOS, BOOKS AND MUSIC.
• 16:27 OUR CORRESPONDENCE COURSE, THE INSTITUTE OF JEWISH CHRISTIAN STUDIES INCLUDES:
• 16:32 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL-IN TESTS.
• 16:36 DID YOU KNOW THAT ZOLA TAKES TOURS TO ISRAEL, GREECE AND THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE THEME PARK IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA?
• 16:43 PLEASE, CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
• 16:49 ISRAEL, THE WAY WE SEE IT ON THE TOURS IS THE WAY YOU SEE IT THERE ON OUR TV SPOTS.
• 16:54 IT'S PEACEFUL, IT'S PLEASANT TO TRAVEL.
• 16:57 WE'VE TAKEN 75 CONSECUTIVE TOURS FOR 30 YEARS WITH NO CANCELLATION.
• 17:02 WHAT THE MEDIA CLAIMS IS LIKE A HIGHLIGHT FILM.
• 17:05 ISRAEL'S NOT ALL THAT EXCITING. OUR NEXT TOUR IS IN OCTOBER.
• 17:08 JOIN US, WILL YOU? YOU'LL LOVE THAT PLACE BELIEVE ME.
• 17:12 TAKE A LOOK AT IT BEFORE YOU GO FOR 1,000 YEAR TOUR.
• 17:15 WE WENT ON WITH JOAN PETERS.
• 17:18 I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE MAKING A FILM?
• 17:21 I ACTUALLY WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE A FILM.
• 17:26 I VERY ACTIVELY WAS NO GOING TO.
• 17:28 I HAD BEEN APPROACHED BY BBC A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND I WAS FLATTERED.
• 17:34 I HAD SUCCUMBED TO FLATTERY AND ALLOWED THEM TO TALK ME INTO DOING A DOCUMENTARY ON MY BOOK.
• 17:42 FORTUNATELY, MY FIRST, LATE HUSBAND, MY FIRST HUSBAND WHO IS NOW OF MEMORY,
• 17:51 WAS A BRILLIANT LAWYER AND HE INSISTED I KEEP EVERY RIGHT KNOWN TO MAN AND WOMAN
• 17:57 IN ORDER PREVENT BBC FROM INFRINGING OR CONVERSELY DISTORTING EVERYTHING IN MY BOOK
• 18:07 SURE ENOUGH, THEY CAME UP WITH A SCRIPT THAT DID EXACTLY THAT.
• 18:11 IT TURNED EVERYTHING ON ITS HEAD, WHICH THE BRITISH, OF COURSE, BBC IS KNOWN FOR.
• 18:16 AND, OF COURSE, I PULLED BACK THE RIGHTS.
• 18:19 THEY COULDN'T ARGUE WITH IT.
• 18:21 THEY TRIED TO SUE ME AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO BE SUED.
• 18:26 THERE WAS NO WAY THAT THEY COULD MAKE ME GIVE MY BOOK TO ANYONE IF IT WAS BEING DISTORTED.
• 18:33 SURE.
• 18:34 SO, WHEN THIS MAN A YEAR AND A HALF AGO CAME TO ME
• 18:38 AND WAS PLEADING FOR THE RIGHTS TO DO A FILM CALLED, "THE MYTH",
• 18:48 HE SAID THAT IT HAD AFFECTED HIM SO DEEPLY.
• 18:52 HE'D NEVER HAD ANY INTEREST IN THE MIDDLE EAST BEFORE
• 18:55 AND THAT HIS WIFE'S FAMILY HAD BEEN BORN IN IRAQ.
• 19:02 ONE OF HIS WIFE'S RELATIVES, I BELIEVE, WAS HANGED IN A SQUARE IN BAGHDAD
• 19:08 BECAUSE HE WAS ACCUSED OF BEING A ZIONIST SPY.
• 19:10 OF COURSE, HE WASN'T.
• 19:11 HE WAS A FACTORY OWNER AND THEY WANTED HIS MONEY.
• 19:18 SO THEY SIMPLY DID WHAT THEY MANY TIMES DO.
• 19:21 THEY ACCUSED WHAT IS A CRIME, BEING A ZIONIST SPY.
• 19:27 THIS MAN GOT TO ME AFTER ABOUT THE 6TH TRY AND SENT ME HIS FILMS.
• 19:36 HE HAS DONE A NUMBER OF PRIZE WINNING FILMS
• 19:39 ON MANY IMPORTANT, SERIOUS PROBLEMS OF OUR DAY FROM DRUGS TO PROBLEM CHILDREN TO POLITICS,
• 19:51 BUT NEVER HAS HE ENTERED THE WORLD OF THE MIDDLE EAST.
• 19:54 I THOUGHT HIS FILMS WERE SO GOOD THAT I CALLED HIM AND SAID, YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION
• 20:00 AND I'M SENDING A LETTER, SIGNING IT,
• 20:04 TELLING YOU THAT YOU CAN GO ABOUT GETTING FUNDING FOR IT WITH MY BLESSINGS.
• 20:08 OF COURSE, KEEPING CONTROL BECAUSE I'LL STILL WAIT UNTIL I SEE THE FINAL PRODUCT.
• 20:14 OH, YEAH.
• 20:15 I BELIEVE THAT IT'S IN THE MAKING RIGHT NOW.
• 20:18 THAT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT.
• 20:20 WELL, IT'S NOT JUST INTERESTING, FOR ME, IT'S A CLONE.
• 20:24 YOU KNOW, I AM ONLY ONE PERSON AND IT'S VERY AMAZING FOR ME
• 20:30 WHO WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF ANOTHER BOOK AND HAVING THIS "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL"
• 20:35 EEKING OUT A MAYBE $5,000 A YEAR SALES IN THE PAPERBACK, THE NEWEST EDITION,
• 20:45 ALL OF A SUDDEN, WHEN OSLO FELL APART,
• 20:48 AND PEOPLE BEGAN TO SEE WHAT WAS REALLY HAPPENING, MY BOOK TOOK OFF.
• 20:54 IT'S BEEN A 2ND COMING.
• 20:55 I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET TO PLACES I WANT TO GET TO.
• 21:00 I REALIZE NOW THAT STUDENTS, NON-MUSLIM STUDENTS IN UNIVERSITIES
• 21:06 ARE BEING INTIMIDATED BY THE MUSLIM PROPAGANDISTS,
• 21:11 THEY SURE ARE
• 21:13 BOTH PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY TO PREVENT THEM FROM EVEN ASKING WHAT ZIONISM IS.
• 21:19 YES.
• 21:20 WHAT ISRAEL IS. WHAT IS THE JEWISH LIBERATION MOVEMENT?
• 21:24 THEY DON'T TEACH SUCH THINGS IN THE UNIVERSITIES.
• 21:27 WHAT'S MORE, I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK AT DEPARTMENTS I SPOKE AT WHEN THE BOOK FIRST CAME OUT.
• 21:33 I WAS INVITED BACK TO SPEAK AT SOME OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS RECENTLY:
• 21:37 THE DEPARTMENT OF POLITICAL HISTORY, POLITICAL SCIENCE, MIDDLE EAST HISTORY,
• 21:43 ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT JOURNALISM CLASSES.
• 21:47 I WAS TOLD THAT IT WOULD NOT BE SAFE IF I WENT TO BERKLEY OR IF I WENT TO COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY.
• 21:54 THEY SAID THAT THERE WAS NO WAY THEY COULD GUARANTEE MY SECURITY.
• 22:00 I WENT TO TEXAS. I WON'T TELL YOU WHERE IN TEXAS.
• 22:04 I WON'T TELL YOU THE NAME OF THE UNIVERSITY, BUT I ENDED UP NOT GOING THERE BECAUSE OF SECURITY.
• 22:08 I ENDED UP SPEAKING IN A CHURCH.
• 22:11 I HAD 1,000 PEOPLE AND THEY WERE FABULOUS.
• 22:14 WELL, I TELL YOU WHAT, YOU HAVE 1,000,000 PEOPLE LISTENING NOW WHO ARE KINDRED SPIRITS.
• 22:20 I HOPE YOU GET A LOT OF INVITATIONS.
• 22:22 AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOU SPEAK
• 22:25 THEY CAN WRITE TO US AND WE WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED.
• 22:28 I THINK YOU SHOULD BE HEARD.
• 22:30 I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A MAGNIFICENT WORK.
• 22:33 I WANT TO BE HEARD, BUT I WANT TO BE HEARD BY THE SCHOOLS.
• 22:36 I WANT THE SCHOOL CHILDREN WHO ARE GROWING UP BEFORE THEY GET THEIR BIASES
• 22:41 TO KNOW WHAT THE FACTS ARE SO THAT THEY HAVE A STRAIGHT BACK WHEN THEY ASK A QUESTION LIKE,
• 22:47 WHY IS ISRAEL BEING MALIGNED BY THE ARAB-MUSLIM WORLD,
• 22:51 WITHOUT BEING AFRAID FOR THEIR LIVES OR THEIR VERY GRADES IN SCHOOL
• 22:57 BECAUSE THE PROFESSORS ALSO HAVE FALLEN INTO LINE WITH THE MUSLIM PROPAGANDA.
• 23:03 ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO FOR IT. THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.
• 23:07 IT'S BEEN A LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
• 23:10 PEOPLE, I THINK, WOULD SAY, WELL, ZOLA LEVITT KNOWS ALL ABOUT THIS SUBJECT.
• 23:14 I'M SURE YOU DO.
• 23:16 NOW I DO, FROM READING "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL", WHICH PEOPLE CAN GET AT--
• 23:22 WELL, "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL" NOW HAS ANOTHER BOOK THAT HAS THE SAME TITLE.
• 23:26 APPARENTLY TITLES ARE NOT COPYRIGHTABLE.
• 23:28 NO, TITLES ARE NOT COPYRIGHTABLE.
• 23:30 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
• 23:31 NO, THEY'RE LIABLE TO MAKE A MOVIE WITH TOM CRUISE "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL".
• 23:34 WELL, THEY MIGHT MAKE IT, BUT THEY MADE A BOOK THAT WAS ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
• 23:40 I THINK IT WAS DONE AS A DETERRENT.
• 23:42 SO, IF ANYBODY ASKS FOR IT ON WORLDNETDAILY.COM, OR ON AMAZON, OR WHEREVER,
• 23:49 THEY HAVE TO SAY IT'S "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL,
• 23:52 THE ORIGINS OF THE ARAB-JEWISH CONFLICT OVER PALESTINE".
• 23:55 OR, "BY JOAN PETERS".
• 23:56 OR "BY JOAN PETERS", OR ALL THREE.
• 23:59 YES, YES. OKAY.
• 24:01 I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
• 24:03 WELL, THANK YOU.
• 24:04 OKAY. ONE OF THE MOST DISCOURAGING GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS IN THE WORLD
• 24:09 IS THE PALESTINIAN NATIONAL CHARTER.
• 24:11 I MEAN, IT'S DISCOURAGING BECAUSE 30 OF ITS 33 PARAGRAPHS
• 24:16 DEMONSTRATE AN ANIMOSITY TOWARD ANOTHER NATION, ISRAEL.
• 24:20 THERE IS NO COUNTRY THAT MAKES IT'S--
• 24:22 I MEAN, WE HAVE A DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND IT MAKES VEILED REFERENCE TO BRITAIN.
• 24:28 OUR CONSTITUTION IS ABOUT OUR LAWS.
• 24:30 IT DOESN'T REFER TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
• 24:31 THIS IS ALMOST ENTIRELY IN REFERENCE TO THE NEIGHBORING COUNTRY.
• 24:37 JOAN HAD PRINTED THE WHOLE PALESTINIAN NATIONAL CHARTER IN HER BOOK.
• 24:42 BY THE WAY, YOU CAN GET THIS, "FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL" FROM ANY BOOKSTORE.
• 24:45 YOU DON'T HAVE TO WRITE TO US.
• 24:46 JUST GO IN ANY PLACE. IT'S FOR SALE. BELIEVE ME.
• 24:51 AMONG THE POINTS BROUGHT OUT IN THE CHARTER,
• 24:54 1) ARMED STRUGGLE IS THE ONLY WAY TO LIBERATE PALESTINE.
• 24:58 OF COURSE, THAT ASSUMES THERE WAS SOMETHING CALLED PALESTINE TO LIBERATE.
• 25:03 THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL WAS ENTIRELY ILLEGAL.
• 25:07 YOU KNOW, THE U.N. APPROVED OF THIS. RUSSIA VOTED FOR IT.
• 25:11 THE UNITED STATES VOTED FOR IT.
• 25:13 THE BALFOUR DECLARATION WAS DEEMED NULL AND VOID.
• 25:16 THIS WAS A BRITISH PRONOUNCEMENT OF 1917 THAT SAID THAT THE JEWS
• 25:20 COULD REESTABLISH A HOMELAND IN THEIR NATIVE ISRAEL.
• 25:25 CLAIMS OF HISTORICAL AND RELIGIOUS TIES OF JEWS TO THE LAND
• 25:29 ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE FACTS OF HISTORY.
• 25:31 THAT'S JUST BALDERDASH.
• 25:34 THERE'S ARCHAEOLOGY GALORE AND HISTORY TO PROVE IT.
• 25:39 ZIONISM IS RACISM AND FANATIC IN ITS NATURE.
• 25:43 AGGRESSIVE, EXPANSIONIST AND COLONIAL IN ITS AIMS.
• 25:46 FASCIST IN ITS METHODS.
• 25:47 IT'S JUST ALMOST CURSING.
• 25:50 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACTS, ZIONISM IS THE ONLY GOVERNMENT SYSTEM THAT ISN'T RACIST.
• 25:57 ISRAEL IS THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT TAKES BLACK AFRICANS AS FIRST CLASS CITIZENS,
• 26:01 NOT SERVANTS AND TAKES PEOPLE FROM EVERY NATION IN THE WORLD.
• 26:06 NAME ME ANOTHER NATION THAT DOES THAT.
• 26:08 WELL, WE DO BY ACCIDENT BECAUSE OUR BORDERS ARE SO POROUS ANYBODY COULD WALK IN,
• 26:12 BUT ISRAEL DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE AMONG PEOPLE.
• 26:16 ANY NATION IS FINE.
• 26:19 THEY ARE THE LAST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD TO BE CALLED RACIST.
• 26:21 RATHER, IT'S THE ARABS OF SAUDI ARABIA AND SO ON THAT CAN NOT TOLERATE EVEN VISITORS
• 26:27 MAKING A PRAYER IN THEIR OWN RELIGION AND SO ON.
• 26:31 PSALM 83 GOES ON. IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND SO RELEVANT.
• 26:49 WELL, I HAVE THIS TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
• 26:51 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.