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Showdown with Iran with Dr. Hormoz Shariat

The Bearded Bible Brothers meet with Dr. Hormoz Shariat of Iran Alive Ministries to learn more about Iran’s endgame for Israel. Joshua and Caleb also talk with Avi Lipkin to discuss his take on Iran’s next steps of retaliation against the Jewish State.

Air dates: 2025-Oct-15

Production Code: 2528

Duration: 28:30

Year: 2025

[CC] Closed Captioned

Transcript

Caption transcript for “Showdown with Iran” with Dr. Hormoz Shariat

  • 00:08 ♪♪♪ Joshua Colson: Hey everybody, I'm Joshua.
  • 00:10 Caleb Colson: And I'm Caleb.
  • 00:11 Joshua: And we are brothers.
  • 00:13 Caleb: Bearded Bible brothers.
  • 00:15 You know, guys back on June 12th through the 24th of 2025, Iran
  • 00:20 and Israel went to war.
  • 00:22 It was called the 12-Day War.
  • 00:24 In fact, Iran had already declared war on Israel, but
  • 00:27 Israel had to preemptively strike in a way to silence Iran
  • 00:31 before they took their nuclear missiles into action, and they
  • 00:35 had to take out the nuclear missile program.
  • 00:38 So Israel sent Mossad agents on the ground into Iran to take out
  • 00:43 their program, to take out generals.
  • 00:45 They led their air force to take out these missile silos and also
  • 00:51 these airstrips in which Iran could retaliate against Israel.
  • 00:55 And so after 12 days of fighting, of Iran firing these
  • 01:01 supersonic missiles, Josh, into Israel, targeting
  • 01:05 civilian locations.
  • 01:07 We're talking about a hospital in Beersheba or apartment
  • 01:10 complex in Tel Aviv.
  • 01:12 It was time for America, Israel's ally, to step in and
  • 01:16 we did.
  • 01:18 And President Trump sent B-2 stealth bombers to take out
  • 01:22 these hidden missile facilities in Iran that needed these bunker
  • 01:26 bustle missiles and that essentially ended in a temporary
  • 01:31 ceasefire, if you will.
  • 01:32 Joshua: And here we are in the middle of this temporary
  • 01:34 ceasefire and yet again there are rumblings that Iran is
  • 01:38 mounting again for another attack.
  • 01:40 Here is a country whose people are destitute, who are hungry,
  • 01:43 who are starving, who are on the verge of revolt against their
  • 01:45 leadership because the sole focus of this leadership is the
  • 01:48 annihilation of the Israeli people, and yet they're
  • 01:52 attempting to try again.
  • 01:53 Now we have sought out the intelligence of one of the chief
  • 01:56 intelligent people about Iran, Dr. Hormoz Shariat, who is the
  • 02:00 pinnacle of the understanding of this.
  • 02:02 He's been referred to as the Billy Graham of the
  • 02:04 Iranian people.
  • 02:06 And so let's hear what he has to say now about what's next
  • 02:08 in Iran.
  • 02:11 Caleb: Thanks for joining us.
  • 02:12 Hormoz Shariat: Good to see you, Caleb and Josh, wonderful.
  • 02:15 Last time we were together, never forget, I was telling my
  • 02:18 friend, I met these two guys full of the Holy Spirit, and we
  • 02:22 talked and from two different nations.
  • 02:24 Caleb: That's right, it's such a blessing because we're here on
  • 02:26 your set, your amazing studio, and it's such an honor to speak
  • 02:30 with you because you are, I always like to bring this up,
  • 02:33 the Billy Graham of Iran.
  • 02:34 Hormoz: I don't say, I don't, I don't call myself Billy Graham
  • 02:38 of Iran.
  • 02:39 Many have come to Christ through our ministry, through me, but it
  • 02:43 was Joel Rosenberg who called me--
  • 02:46 Joshua: I mean if Joel Rosenberg said it, I mean, come on.
  • 02:50 Your humility, I think that's one of the things
  • 02:51 that stands out.
  • 02:52 Like, you have such a servant's heart.
  • 02:54 But there's so much wisdom and there's so much power and
  • 02:55 authority that you're getting that from the Father as opposed
  • 02:58 to it from yourself.
  • 03:00 Too many people are blown up with their own hubris nowadays.
  • 03:02 It's all about themselves, especially if success
  • 03:05 follows it.
  • 03:06 But it's very clear that you understand that it all comes
  • 03:08 from God and I love that about you.
  • 03:10 Hormoz: All by his grace--when you know that I was a shy
  • 03:15 introvert engineer nerd and then you know--
  • 03:19 Joshua: You just described me perfectly.
  • 03:21 Nobody believes that on the show.
  • 03:22 Hormoz: That's good.
  • 03:24 No, then everything is by grace of God, really, we don't have
  • 03:27 anything until--unless he has given us, yeah.
  • 03:29 Caleb: Yes, and I know you have a heart for the Persian people
  • 03:33 in Iran, and we're Jewish, you know.
  • 03:35 Hormoz: I have a heart for Jews too.
  • 03:39 Caleb: We have a heart for all people to come to the faith, and
  • 03:42 I know, you know, the news media or at least what we read about
  • 03:46 the government in Iran may look like they are opposed to Jewish
  • 03:50 people or Israel, but is that truly the case for the actual
  • 03:53 Persian people?
  • 03:55 Do they really hate the Jews?
  • 03:56 Hormoz: Not the common people.
  • 03:58 The government of Iran, they hate the Jews and they say hate,
  • 04:03 death to Israel, and they say we will wipe Israel off the map.
  • 04:08 The Iranian-Muslim leaders have said that and but the people of
  • 04:13 Iran, no.
  • 04:15 Actually increasingly, they are loving the Jews even more.
  • 04:20 So the numbers are growing.
  • 04:22 They're saying, many of them, they're saying why should we
  • 04:26 hate them?
  • 04:27 Tell us, give us a reason.
  • 04:29 They have not done anything to us.
  • 04:31 It's you, the government officials, you're the ones who
  • 04:34 have ruined our lives.
  • 04:36 You are our enemies.
  • 04:37 Actually there's a slogan.
  • 04:38 Yeah, it rhymes in Farsi but not in English.
  • 04:43 The comment says, "They lie to us that the enemy is them.
  • 04:47 The enemy is here and it's you."
  • 04:50 I thought that's--
  • 04:51 Joshua: That's, I think the first, the
  • 04:53 first person of notoriety I heard say that was you last time
  • 04:55 we were in an interview, and, my doctor is actually, she's from
  • 04:58 Iran, and I was talking with her about a month ago about this,
  • 05:03 and she just went off for like 20 minutes about "This is
  • 05:06 the most ridiculous thing ever.
  • 05:08 Persians love the Jewish people and they--" she's on and on and
  • 05:09 on and so you realize, wow, the whole world's been fed
  • 05:12 propaganda and it's all because of a few evil people who took
  • 05:17 over in charge, who don't even belong there.
  • 05:19 But they don't represent the view of the people.
  • 05:21 And so I think in the moment like this one of the reasons we
  • 05:23 wanted to talk to you is to really get an idea of what are
  • 05:26 the people of Iran feeling, praying for, asking for in
  • 05:29 moments like this?
  • 05:31 Because you look at the news media and they're pointing
  • 05:33 the finger at everybody.
  • 05:34 This is the bad guy, this is the bad guy, this is what you feel
  • 05:36 this--none of it's accurate and that's a big thing right now
  • 05:40 because we're all God's children, right?
  • 05:43 Whether you're from Iran, whether you're from America or
  • 05:45 from Israel, but what are the, what are the Iranian people
  • 05:48 wanting right now from what just happened with this 12-Day War,
  • 05:52 for what happens next?
  • 05:54 Hormoz: Let me give you a little background.
  • 05:57 When Israel attacked Hamas and then Lebanon, people of Iran
  • 06:04 were rejoicing.
  • 06:06 They were on the streets celebrating, okay.
  • 06:11 Because the government of Iran is supporting them, anything the
  • 06:13 government of Iran is for, they're against, and they're
  • 06:17 saying all these years, billions of dollars you have given to
  • 06:20 these people and we are living a miserable life.
  • 06:24 So, when that happened, people of Iran are saying, started
  • 06:29 saying hey maybe, maybe you could do the same thing to us.
  • 06:34 Hey, Netanyahu, we have a, we got an idea.
  • 06:38 We got an offer.
  • 06:39 Would you do to Iranian leaders what you did to Lebanese--the
  • 06:46 Hezbollah leaders?
  • 06:47 You pinpoint laser accuracy, you kill them.
  • 06:51 Would you do that to our leaders?
  • 06:53 So they have been asking Israel, Netanyahu, the last year, would
  • 07:00 you do that?
  • 07:01 So when the war started they celebrated, of course, they
  • 07:04 don't know they thought that the war is gonna be clean, the
  • 07:07 government will fall.
  • 07:08 Now the government, the war is not clean, they're suffering
  • 07:12 in it.
  • 07:13 And the government hasn't fallen.
  • 07:15 So the people of Iran right now as we speak, they're just
  • 07:19 confused, hopeless, and they're asking Netanyahu, why didn't you
  • 07:23 finish the job?
  • 07:24 When they say finish the job, they mean kill the
  • 07:27 supreme leader.
  • 07:28 Joshua: But it's interesting you say that because one of the
  • 07:30 propagantic things you're hearing from the liberal media
  • 07:32 is that Iran doesn't want this, right?
  • 07:35 That poor Iran, they don't want, they don't want their leaders
  • 07:37 taken out.
  • 07:39 They don't want this attack happening.
  • 07:40 And yet it's exactly the opposite where you say the
  • 07:41 people are saying, why haven't you finished the job?
  • 07:44 You know, everybody, nobody wants war.
  • 07:45 Let's just start off by saying that nobody wants war for the
  • 07:47 sake of war.
  • 07:48 What we want is the liberation and the freedom of
  • 07:51 people, right?
  • 07:52 We want free of tyranny, but in these moments when you have a
  • 07:55 tyrannical leader in play and it's proven that over 50 years
  • 07:58 nothing's gonna happen unless you take them out, the people
  • 08:00 are crying for them to be taken out and for them to ask that of
  • 08:03 both Israel and America, I think it should make us wake up as
  • 08:06 countries is to say, well, what are we doing if we're
  • 08:09 considering ourselves, you know, an ally to Israel and we're
  • 08:12 seeking freedom if we're not finishing the job, right?
  • 08:15 Hormoz: The people of Iran are, they look at the regime and they
  • 08:20 said you are our masters, you're oppressors.
  • 08:24 We want you to be gone.
  • 08:26 It's--we hope somebody will come and liberate us because they
  • 08:30 cannot do it, you know, they came on the streets several
  • 08:32 times, and every time thousands of them were killed.
  • 08:36 So, they're desperate.
  • 08:38 They won't come on the street.
  • 08:40 You saw even with the war they didn't dare to come and do
  • 08:44 protest because they know the regime have no problem killing
  • 08:49 tens of thousands of them if they come on the streets.
  • 08:51 So, but the people are hopeful that maybe USA or Israel will
  • 08:58 come and liberate them there.
  • 09:01 We need a savior and my message on the on the channel is this,
  • 09:04 hey, no man is your savior.
  • 09:06 Don't trust--Trump is not for you.
  • 09:09 Trump is for the for America and also Netanyahu.
  • 09:15 So don't think the priority is you.
  • 09:18 No, they will do what's good for their own country, but they're
  • 09:21 not your savior and, but there's one savior I can--I can assure
  • 09:27 you he will save your soul.
  • 09:28 He will save your family, save the country, and he has a
  • 09:32 promise that he will set his throne in Iran in Jeremiah
  • 09:35 49:38, so you know that this guy who only saves you, but he's
  • 09:39 gonna make his promise and you're gonna be free and you're
  • 09:43 gonna be, you're gonna be prosperous.
  • 09:46 You're gonna be saved and he was set his throne in Iran.
  • 09:50 Caleb: I know a lot of people have been using that scripture
  • 09:53 in Jeremiah saying, oh, the bow of Elam is broken.
  • 09:55 They broke the missile launchers, but yet the
  • 09:58 government's still in power, isn't it?
  • 10:00 And I remember I was heartbroken when I heard the news went out
  • 10:03 that Israel had the opportunity to assassinate the Ayatollah,
  • 10:08 but Trump said, no, don't do that, that's off the books, and
  • 10:13 it's not that we want the death of anybody.
  • 10:15 We want all people to come to faith, but you're talking about
  • 10:19 someone, you know, in the mind of I think of like Hitler or
  • 10:23 Stalin, these people that would kill their own people, those
  • 10:26 people have to be removed.
  • 10:28 I mean, is there gonna be peace now?
  • 10:30 Because America, they're like, oh, it's peace, you know, Trump
  • 10:32 brought peace.
  • 10:34 And we love what Trump did by helping Israel bomb those
  • 10:37 nuclear facilities, but I don't see peace until that
  • 10:40 government's removed.
  • 10:41 Hormoz: That's right, and referring to Jeremiah 49.
  • 10:45 What's happening is exactly that.
  • 10:47 He said 49, Jeremiah 49, verse 34, he says, exactly, I will
  • 10:53 break the bow of Iran and the base of its power.
  • 10:57 So it's happening.
  • 10:59 Caleb: So it is happening.
  • 11:00 Hormoz: And then you see suffering.
  • 11:03 A lot of people die and then he says after that, then he says I
  • 11:09 will remove the king and prince and the leaders.
  • 11:13 So it comes after that suffering.
  • 11:15 So we are in that--
  • 11:17 Joshua: So you're seeing it as tiers?
  • 11:18 Hormoz: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
  • 11:19 Joshua: Step one, do this, step two, okay.
  • 11:21 Hormoz: So if we go with that, then we can predict.
  • 11:23 I tell our audience one sentence.
  • 11:25 I tell, if you wanna know what happened, read the news.
  • 11:28 If you wanna know what will happen, read your Bible, so.
  • 11:33 Joshua: I love that.
  • 11:34 Hormoz: So, if you follow that, then we, the base of power
  • 11:37 is broken.
  • 11:38 Now there gonna be a period of suffering, I think.
  • 11:42 I believe, as you can see, with or without government the people
  • 11:46 of Iran will go through a suffering, a period of
  • 11:49 suffering, but then he says, I will remove king and the tsar or
  • 11:53 the leaders.
  • 11:54 Then he says, I will set my throne.
  • 11:56 Then he says I will return the captives or I will return the
  • 12:00 fortunes of Iran.
  • 12:01 Caleb: Well we just got back from Syria and we saw a very
  • 12:04 interesting perspective of a country that's been closed.
  • 12:07 For so many decades where people didn't even have a baseline
  • 12:11 frame of reference for Christianity or who Jesus was,
  • 12:14 there's Christians there, but they weren't active.
  • 12:17 They were in--you know, self inclusive and they didn't go out
  • 12:21 like you said.
  • 12:22 They didn't have the confidence because persecution would come
  • 12:25 obviously, if they would come out and preach the gospel.
  • 12:28 And while we were there, I felt the Holy Spirit telling us that
  • 12:31 this is all about to change in the Middle East because we
  • 12:35 remember speaking with you and you said Christianity is the
  • 12:38 fastest growing religion in Iran.
  • 12:40 Well, what about Syria?
  • 12:41 What about Jordan?
  • 12:43 What about Egypt?
  • 12:44 What about Saudi Arabia?
  • 12:45 I feel God's about to move in the Middle East and the harvest
  • 12:50 is there but the laborers are few in that respect.
  • 12:53 What do you have to say to people?
  • 12:55 How do you rally them to that cause?
  • 12:58 Hormoz: Well, what's happening in Iran, first of all, it's
  • 13:01 gonna impact the whole Middle East and the world.
  • 13:04 It will, it's not my wish, it's the Lord's wish, because when he
  • 13:09 says I will set my throne in Elam, what does that mean?
  • 13:13 Is he gonna, is--doesn't he love the whole world?
  • 13:16 Is he gonna be satisfied?
  • 13:17 Oh, these, Persian, these Iranians, oh, they've come
  • 13:20 to Christ.
  • 13:21 I'm very happy.
  • 13:22 No, Iran will be a sending nation.
  • 13:24 If he's Lord, he will send people, so Iran will impact the
  • 13:29 Middle East and already have started, did you know that?
  • 13:33 We're talking about the healthy church, Iranian underground
  • 13:37 church without us really pushing, they're growing this
  • 13:41 hunger to share the gospel with other nations.
  • 13:45 Our members, they, one of the things they ask me all the time,
  • 13:50 "Pastors Hormoz, I love the Jews.
  • 13:52 I feel God has called me to share the gospel with the Jews.
  • 13:56 What should I do?
  • 13:57 I'm praying.
  • 13:58 Could you tell me?
  • 14:00 I have that burden."
  • 14:01 Caleb: Persian missionaries to the Jewish people?
  • 14:03 Hormoz: Jews, that's right, that's right.
  • 14:04 And Arabs, Iranians right now, they hate Arabs because they
  • 14:09 think Arabs invaded, destroyed their country, pushed Islamic
  • 14:13 religion on them.
  • 14:14 And even then some of the Iranian believers says, "I have
  • 14:17 a heart.
  • 14:19 I have a love for Arabs.
  • 14:20 What should I do?
  • 14:21 I should go."
  • 14:23 This is God and preparing Iranians to be sent out.
  • 14:27 By the way, there are some Iranians living outside Iran
  • 14:30 because you inside Iran, you cannot go to Jerusalem.
  • 14:33 There's some Iranians outside Iran that they go to Israel when
  • 14:38 the things were more quiet.
  • 14:40 They used to go there once a year just to share the gospel,
  • 14:45 just to pray, prayer walk and share the gospel.
  • 14:48 I asked one of them, "So you're going there, what do you tell
  • 14:51 the Jews when you meet them on the street?"
  • 14:54 He said, "That's easy."
  • 14:55 And I said, "What do you say?"
  • 14:57 He said, "I tell them my story," because he said when he was
  • 15:01 younger in Iran, he signed up for the military force whose
  • 15:06 mission was to kill the Jews.
  • 15:08 He said, "I hated Jews so much.
  • 15:10 I intentionally said I want to sign up for that group, so I was
  • 15:14 trained to kill the Jews, but now," and then he shared the
  • 15:21 rest of the story.
  • 15:23 He said, "And a couple years ago," this is like last year, so
  • 15:26 it's like three, four, years ago this happened to him.
  • 15:29 He said, "I had a a stroke.
  • 15:32 I had a stroke.
  • 15:33 They took me to the hospital and I was in recovery.
  • 15:36 I was there for 40 days.
  • 15:39 And they were preparing to bury me.
  • 15:41 They said there's no hope."
  • 15:43 He doesn't--in the ICU.
  • 15:45 There's no way he can come back.
  • 15:47 "And they had arranged for my funeral.
  • 15:50 And suddenly I got woke up and I said, bring me, bring me a
  • 15:56 pastor and bring me a Bible.
  • 15:57 Said, what? You're a Muslim?
  • 16:00 I said when I was in coma, I saw Jesus."
  • 16:04 He said, "I saw a dream.
  • 16:06 I was in a hall full of the Iranian leaders.
  • 16:10 They were all that I know them and I followed them.
  • 16:12 I obeyed them.
  • 16:14 They were all sitting around.
  • 16:15 All the leaders were there and I looked at them and they were
  • 16:19 crying, crying, crying.
  • 16:21 So why are you crying?
  • 16:23 They said, we were wrong.
  • 16:25 We were wrong.
  • 16:27 I said, so who is right?
  • 16:29 And they all pointed to this guy said, He is right."
  • 16:32 He said, "I looked up and I saw Jesus on the throne," in
  • 16:35 his dream.
  • 16:36 "And I looked at Jesus, and Jesus looked at me, and then he
  • 16:40 did like this.
  • 16:41 I flew to front of Jesus and Jesus says, I will send you
  • 16:46 back, but I want you to love the Jews and share the gospel with
  • 16:50 the Jews."
  • 16:51 So he wakes up, he says, "I'm ready, call me, give me a Bible.
  • 16:55 Call the pastor."
  • 16:56 And he's the one who was--one of the people who goes
  • 16:59 to Jerusalem.
  • 17:01 So I ask him, I asked this guy, "So when you go, what do
  • 17:03 you say?"
  • 17:05 He say, "I tell him, hey, I was your enemy.
  • 17:07 I signed up to kill you, but now I love you and I am
  • 17:10 your friend."
  • 17:12 And he said, "And then I'm tell him I will tell him, hey, it's
  • 17:15 good that you have all these missiles, but don't trust these
  • 17:17 missiles to save you, okay?
  • 17:20 They cannot save you.
  • 17:21 There's one Savior.
  • 17:23 None of these missiles can change an enemy like me to be
  • 17:26 your friend, but Jesus can.
  • 17:28 So it's safest route for you is to follow Jesus because he will
  • 17:34 turn your enemies into your friends."
  • 17:37 He said, "That's my message."
  • 17:40 ♪♪♪
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  • 18:09 Joshua: Jesús.
  • 18:11 Caleb: To the entire world. Joshua: Woo!
  • 18:14 Caleb: We were in Israel on October 7th, a very historic and
  • 18:17 tragic day.
  • 18:19 We were in Jerusalem and sirens went off throughout that day and
  • 18:21 we were ushered into bomb shelters.
  • 18:24 Also during the whole week and it just so happened we had a
  • 18:27 chance to meet up with our good friend Avi Lipkin, who has been
  • 18:30 a contributor with Zola Levitt Ministries for like 30 years.
  • 18:34 He was a longtime friend of Zola.
  • 18:35 Now, Avi Lipkin is an author.
  • 18:37 He's a lecturer.
  • 18:39 He's a Sovietologist, and he filled us in on what was going
  • 18:42 on during that time period.
  • 18:43 But since then we've also had an opportunity to meet up with him.
  • 18:46 Joshua: Often when you meet a person like this who knows so
  • 18:49 much, most people look at what he's saying as this
  • 18:51 is impossible.
  • 18:52 This could never happen.
  • 18:54 And yet this is the guy who's showing up to our hotel while
  • 18:56 everyone else is hiding in bunkers multiple times
  • 18:58 throughout October 7th to talk about his theories of what was
  • 19:02 going on.
  • 19:03 Guess what?
  • 19:05 His theories panned out.
  • 19:06 They were proven to be true, which is why we want to show you
  • 19:08 what he has to say about what he believes is going to happen next
  • 19:11 between Iran and Israel.
  • 19:14 Caleb: Yes, we are, we're here again with our friend
  • 19:17 Avi Lipkin.
  • 19:18 Thanks for joining us today.
  • 19:19 Avi Lipkin: Happy to be back.
  • 19:21 Caleb: Avi, there's a lot going on in the world and has been
  • 19:24 ever since October 7th.
  • 19:26 It's sort of been this trigger point, where people are like,
  • 19:29 is this the end?
  • 19:30 Is prophecy accelerating?
  • 19:32 And supernaturally, yes, God has preserved his people, Israel.
  • 19:36 All these nations surrounding to attack her--Hezbollah down,
  • 19:39 Syria crippled.
  • 19:41 Now Iran is in the news because Israel has attacked Iran, has
  • 19:46 been taking out their nuclear installations.
  • 19:48 Iran is a key player in the war of Gog and Magog, spoken about
  • 19:53 in Ezekiel 38 and 39.
  • 19:55 I also believe that Russia is involved.
  • 19:57 Turkey is a major player.
  • 19:59 What do you see with this conclusion with Iran crippled?
  • 20:03 Is there still this war on the horizon?
  • 20:05 Avi: I think that the problem of Iran is going to be terminated
  • 20:10 very soon.
  • 20:11 Yeah.
  • 20:13 I think Iran will return to the family of the nations.
  • 20:18 The Iranian people are good people and because the 50 years
  • 20:21 of Ayatollah Khomeini, and Khamenei and all that, you
  • 20:25 cannot erase 3500 years of friendship between the Iranian
  • 20:30 people and the Jews and Israel.
  • 20:33 I think that Cyrus is described in the Bible as the Messiah.
  • 20:39 He's the Mashiach because he helped the Jews to go home and
  • 20:41 build the temple.
  • 20:43 I've been in Iran. I love the Iranians.
  • 20:45 In Israel we have many, many Iranian Jews.
  • 20:47 I love them all very much.
  • 20:49 So I think that this is another breakthrough for the human
  • 20:56 race--that Iran's nuclear program is going
  • 21:00 to be decapitated.
  • 21:03 I also think if, you know Trump, President Trump is saying we'll
  • 21:07 still give them another chance in the negotiations.
  • 21:10 He knows it's not gonna happen.
  • 21:12 So the next stage will be taking out the oil facilities, even
  • 21:15 though he doesn't want to take out the oil facilities.
  • 21:18 When you take out the oil facilities, there will be no
  • 21:21 water in Iran.
  • 21:23 There will be no gasoline in Iran.
  • 21:25 No electricity in Iran.
  • 21:27 And the people finally are gonna rise up and say enough
  • 21:29 is enough.
  • 21:31 And many Iranians are very close to the broadcast of the Israelis
  • 21:35 because they know that we're telling the truth and they know
  • 21:39 that we love the Iranians.
  • 21:41 So I think what we're going to see here if you're thinking
  • 21:44 about President Trump having his face on Mount Rushmore, I think
  • 21:47 President Trump should have better than that.
  • 21:49 He should have a whole mountain to himself because we're going
  • 21:52 to neutralize the evil of the Iranian regime.
  • 21:56 And turn Iran into a very, very pro-Western country again as it
  • 22:00 was under the Shah.
  • 22:02 I know many people say, well, he's a dictator and he was bad
  • 22:05 in many ways, but I think at this stage we're going to see
  • 22:09 Iran going into a modern era.
  • 22:13 I don't know what kind of system they will have.
  • 22:15 I think it'll be constitutional monarchy if the son of the Shah
  • 22:20 goes back to Iran.
  • 22:22 So this is like, you know, a check, you know, praise God,
  • 22:27 Iran is returned to the nations.
  • 22:29 I believe that what's going to happen is there will be a major
  • 22:33 war between Israel and Turkey.
  • 22:37 And my ninth book is called, it's not finished yet.
  • 22:41 I'm in the middle of it now.
  • 22:42 I mean, I came here all of a sudden really spontaneously.
  • 22:45 I came to the States, but there's a battle which nobody
  • 22:49 has ever heard of, very important sea battle
  • 22:52 called Lepanto.
  • 22:53 Lepanto is in the Mediterranean Sea, and it is a Greek area, and
  • 23:00 the Turkish navy, it was in April 1571.
  • 23:06 The Catholic navies of Spain, Venice, and Genoa completely
  • 23:11 sank the whole Turkish fleet, but the Turks were on the
  • 23:15 ascendancy in Europe.
  • 23:17 You know, they were up to Vienna, up to Moscow, up
  • 23:20 to Warsaw.
  • 23:22 My great great grandfather, whoever, you know, going back to
  • 23:24 the 1600s, built the walls of Warsaw for the king of Poland.
  • 23:28 He was knighted by the king of Poland for building the walls of
  • 23:31 Warsaw, was given the name Kamian.
  • 23:33 Kamian in Slavic means stone.
  • 23:36 But in 1571, the Catholics defeated the Turks.
  • 23:40 Now why don't you know about this in American schools?
  • 23:42 What did you hear about?
  • 23:43 The Battle of the Spanish Armada.
  • 23:45 Because the Protestants whipped the Catholics in 1588.
  • 23:49 But this battle was a victory of the Catholics over the Muslims
  • 23:53 in 1571.
  • 23:55 So my ninth book is called "Leponto Two."
  • 24:00 And that's how the Turkish fleet will be sunk by the
  • 24:03 Israeli fleet.
  • 24:05 But that's gonna spark an Armageddon war, because you have
  • 24:08 200 million Turkic Muslims who are part of the Soviet Union,
  • 24:12 and now there's Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, a good
  • 24:16 people, but they're Turks.
  • 24:18 And they are entitled to Turkish citizenship.
  • 24:21 Why doesn't Turkey become a member of the European Union?
  • 24:24 Because the moment the Turks come in, it's 100 million Turks,
  • 24:28 200 million Turkic Muslims of the former Soviet, that's 300
  • 24:31 million plus the 50 million who are already in Europe, that's
  • 24:35 350 million, and the Christians, I mean, Europeans are not
  • 24:39 Christians anymore, they're just not Muslims.
  • 24:42 The non-Muslim population is 300 million and the Muslim
  • 24:46 population will be 350 million and Europe becomes a
  • 24:50 Muslim continent.
  • 24:52 That's why the European-Christians don't want
  • 24:54 the Turks in, but the Turks, they want to go back from
  • 24:58 Morocco to China, from the Balkans, all the way down to
  • 25:03 Mecca to have their caliphate.
  • 25:06 So I'm watching all this, but if the Israelis sink the whole
  • 25:11 Turkish fleet, it's just the beginning of a major war.
  • 25:15 And so my book is going to describe the Turkish history,
  • 25:18 why the Turks think so much about a thousand years of
  • 25:22 history, going back to the Ottoman Empire.
  • 25:26 Caleb: Wow, that's a big deal because, you know, that is a--
  • 25:31 you see those parallels in Ezekiel 38 and 39, and even the
  • 25:34 description of them being, you know, these territories, Gog is
  • 25:39 pulled with a hook in his jaw down to go Israel.
  • 25:42 All these Turkish Muslims that you said are still around in the
  • 25:46 'Stans like you mentioned.
  • 25:47 They're in Europe, they're everywhere.
  • 25:49 There's gonna be a reason for them all to unite together and
  • 25:52 it's not an accident that then Iran is part of it, Persia is
  • 25:56 part of it.
  • 25:57 Put, Kush, all these areas where they used to hold dominion.
  • 26:01 Joshua: Enemy is ramping up.
  • 26:03 So much evil right now at unparalleled speeds today.
  • 26:07 We have to stand for truth.
  • 26:08 We have to unite behind the Jewish people, behind Israel,
  • 26:11 and we have to stand for the voice that put us here to begin
  • 26:16 with, and that is the Father, and it's paramount.
  • 26:20 Caleb: Thank you for joining us again, Avi.
  • 26:21 Your insights are amazing and I believe it's gonna give people a
  • 26:24 lot to think about.
  • 26:26 Avi: Amen.
  • 26:27 Caleb: Students of Bible prophecy know according to
  • 26:30 Ezekiel 38 and 39 that Iran is going to be a thorn in Israel's
  • 26:34 side again in the future.
  • 26:36 It unites the coalition, Josh, of all these other enemy nations
  • 26:40 against Israel coming in on foot and God has to deliver
  • 26:43 his people.
  • 26:44 That's the war of Gog and Magog.
  • 26:46 But now is not that time yet.
  • 26:48 Hormoz talked about this Jeremiah 49 moment in which God
  • 26:53 will set up his throne in Elam, and we don't really know what
  • 26:56 that entails, but it will happen in the future where Iran, Persia
  • 27:01 will be friendly to the nation of Israel, but right now those
  • 27:04 mullahs that are in charge want to destroy the Jewish people.
  • 27:08 And so it's incumbent on each of us to pray on behalf of the
  • 27:13 Jewish state to support the Israeli people and most
  • 27:16 importantly to bring them the gospel of Yeshua because that's
  • 27:19 the only way that their eternity is secure, knowing that they
  • 27:23 will be with the Father in heaven.
  • 27:25 Joshua: For over 45 years now, Zola Levitt Ministries has been
  • 27:28 bringing the truth of God's Word from the Jewish perspective,
  • 27:32 explaining the Bible, its history, and who Yeshua was, but
  • 27:35 also looking forward to the future, looking at the current
  • 27:38 events and how they take place in the prophetic timeline.
  • 27:42 Now is the time to join together with this ministry, to join
  • 27:45 together financially, spiritually in prayer, and to
  • 27:48 support the efforts to defend Israel in her greatest time of
  • 27:52 need and what's ahead in this time in history.
  • 27:54 So don't forget, Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalayim.
  • 27:58 Caleb: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
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  • 28:02 Zola Levitt Ministries?
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Guests

Dr. Hormoz Shariat
Avi Lipkin

Hosts

Joshua Colson
Caleb Colson
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