Caption transcript for “Behind the Veil” with Ergun Caner, Part 1

• 00:09 BRETHREN, MY HEART'S DESIRE AND PRAYER TO GOD FOR ISRAEL IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED.
• 00:15 THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GENTILE.
• 00:18 FOR THE SAME LORD OVERALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
• 00:28 CONSIDERING THE TIMES AND SEASONS OF OUR WORLD TODAY, HERE'S ZOLA LEVITT.
• 00:35 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
• 00:37 YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THIS PROGRAM.
• 00:38 IT'S ONE OF MOST POPULAR GUESTS.
• 00:40 HE'S BEEN WITH A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE, ERGUN CANER
• 00:43 DR. ERGUN CANER IS A CONVERTED MUSLIM.
• 00:48 HE'S A BELIEVER IN THE LORD NOW AND HE WAS A MUSLIM
• 00:52 AND NOT JUST AN ORDINARY MUSLIM, HE WAS A SUNNI MUSLIM
• 00:55 AND HE WAS THE SON OF A MUEZZIN, THE GUY THAT YELLS FROM THE TOWER AND CALLS PEOPLE TO PRAYER
• 01:00 AND IS AN IMPORTANT OFFICER IN ISLAM.
• 01:03 ERGUN HOLDS HIS DOCTORATE IN MEDIEVAL HISTORY
• 01:07 AND HE'S A FULL PROFESSOR OF THEOLOGY AND CHURCH HISTORY AT LIBERTY UNIVERSITY.
• 01:13 HE'S WRITTEN 8 BOOKS.
• 01:15 LISTEN, IF I DID YOUR WHOLE BACKGROUND, WE DO THE WHOLE PROGRAM.
• 01:17 HE'S A VERY ACCOMPLISHED MAN.
• 01:19 HE WROTE THE BOOK "UNVEILING ISLAM"
• 01:21 WHICH REALLY WAS INFORMATIVE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE READ IT.
• 01:25 HE DEBATES MUSLIMS.
• 01:26 HE'S DONE IT ON FOX AND CNN AND THE BBC AND SO ON.
• 01:31 HE'S GOT A NEW BOOK, "VOICES BEHIND THE VEIL".
• 01:35 ERGUN, IT SAYS ON THIS BACK COVER, IT'S VERY TEMPTING,
• 01:50 YES SIR.
• 01:51 THIS WAS THE WORLD OF MY MOTHER, THE WORLD OF MY GRANDMOTHER.
• 01:55 TO THE BEST OF OUR COUNTING, 21 GENERATIONS OF MY FAMILY AS TURKISH MUSLIMS.
• 02:00 SO, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER WAS MORE OF A LABOR OF LOVE
• 02:04 THAN AN ACADEMIC THING THAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
• 02:09 AREN'T THEY LOSING THE TALENT AND INDUSTRY OF 50% OF THEIR SOCIETY?
• 02:14 THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
• 02:16 I OFTEN GET ASKED THE QUESTION, DON'T THE WOMEN IN YOUR FAMILY FEEL THAT THEY ARE OPPRESSED?
• 02:20 BUT, WE DIDN'T THINK WE WERE OPPRESSED.
• 02:22 THIS WAS THE WAY WE WERE LIVING, THIS WAS OUR LIVES.
• 02:24 THIS IS SOMEWHAT AKIN TO, WE DIDN'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY.
• 02:28 WHEN WE CAME TO AMERICA, WHEN WE SETTLED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES,
• 02:31 WHAT WE SAW AS THE AMERICAN CULTURE, WAS AMERICAN DECADENCE
• 02:35 AND IF IT WAS AMERICAN DECADENCE, IT OBVIOUSLY WAS CHRISTIAN DECADENCE
• 02:39 BECAUSE IN OUR WORLD, WE EQUATE CHURCH AND STATE, MOSQUE AND STATE.
• 02:44 SO WHEN WE SAW SOMETHING ON TELEVISION
• 02:46 THAT WAS SOMEBODY SHOWING MORE SKIN THAN THEY SHOULD, THIS WAS CHRISTIANITY DOING THIS.
• 02:51 SO IN OUR WORLD, IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD,
• 02:54 THEY BELIEVE THAT SHROUDING THE WOMAN IN THE NIQAB, HADOR, BURQAH
• 02:59 THOSE ARE HUGE ROBES THAT COVER THEM FROM HEAD TO TOE.
• 03:03 VARYING COVER.
• 03:04 THE NIQAB COVERS ONE EYE.
• 03:06 THE HADOR LEAVES THE FACE OPEN WHICH YOU SEE IN ISRAEL ALL THE TIME,
• 03:10 AND THE BURQAH COVER EVERYTHING INCLUDING GLOVES ON THE HANDS.
• 03:14 IT'S THE WALKING SLEEPING BAG.
• 03:15 YES, SHE CAN SEE OUT, BUT YOU CANNOT SEE IN THROUGH THE MESH.
• 03:18 THEY BELIEVE THAT BY SHROUDING THE WOMAN,
• 03:21 THEY ARE PROTECTING HER PURITY AND THUS THE WOMAN IN ISLAM IS MORE PURE THAN THE SECULAR WOMAN
• 03:28 OR THE WOMAN IN CHRISTIANITY OR JUDAISM.
• 03:31 ERGUN, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT WOMEN,
• 03:33 BUT I THINK DIDN'T MAKE ANY WOMAN THAT WANT TO BE COVERED HEAD TO TOE.
• 03:37 THEY CAN'T BE HAPPY THERE.
• 03:39 REMEMBER, MOHAMMED WAS AN ORPHAN AND RAISED BY MEN, GRANDFATHER AND UNCLE.
• 03:44 THE ONLY WOMAN, I BELIEVE, MOHAMMED DEEPLY, TRULY LOVED
• 03:48 WAS THE FIRST WOMAN HE MARRIED, KADIJA, 15 YEARS OLDER THAN HE WAS.
• 03:53 SHE WAS WEALTHY, CAME FROM A CHRISTIAN BACKGROUND,
• 03:57 WHICH IS OF INTEREST TO UNDERSTANDING ISLAM.
• 03:59 THIS WOMAN WAS HIS PROTECTOR.
• 04:02 IT'S NOT THAT MOHAMMED DESPISED WOMEN, BUT MOHAMMED SAW WOMEN AS PROTECTED PROPERTY.
• 04:10 THAT'S ONE OF THE CHAPTERS WE HAVE ON THE BOOK, "PROTECTED PROPERTY" THAT IS,
• 04:14 YOU HOLD HER UP IN THE HIGHEST ESTEEM, BUT, PLEASE MAKE NO MISTAKE SHE IS IN FACT,
• 04:19 UNDER THE SLEEVE OF THE HUSBAND, TO USE OF OUR IDIOMS, ONE OF OUR PEOPLE'S IDIOMS.
• 04:24 BUT, WHEN WE WERE IN AFGHANISTAN,
• 04:27 WE LEARNED THAT DURING THE REIGN OF THE TALIBAN,
• 04:30 WHERE THEY HAD THE WOMEN COMPLETELY COVERED
• 04:32 AND WOULDN'T EVEN GIVE THEM MEDICAL CARE,
• 04:35 BUT, THE WOMEN WERE MEETING IN BASEMENTS
• 04:37 AND WHAT WERE THEY DOING, BUT PAINTING EACH OTHERS FACES.
• 04:39 OF COURSE.
• 04:40 THIS IS THE NATURE OF WOMEN.
• 04:42 WRITTEN ON THE MOSQUES WALL IN KABAL, IN ARABIC,
• 04:46 ARE THE WORDS FROM THE 4TH KALIF, DO NOT TEACH THE WOMEN TO READ AND WRITE.
• 04:52 THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT IF YOU TEACH THE WOMEN TO READ AND WRITE,
• 04:55 THE WOMAN BECOMES, BY NATURE, LIBERATED FROM ANY TYPE OF OPPRESSION.
• 05:01 THIS IS WHY, WHEN WOMEN IN ISLAM COME TO JESUS CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOR,
• 05:04 IT IS A SENSE OF-- AN EXPLOSION OF LIBERATION.
• 05:07 I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH MY HUSBAND TO GET TO GOD.
• 05:10 YOUR HUSBAND IN ISLAM, CAN KEEP YOU FROM ALLAH
• 05:14 AND CAN BLOCK YOUR PRAYERS, >>FROM THE MUSLIM GOD.
• 05:16 OF COURSE, YES.
• 05:18 BUT, IN CHRISTIANITY, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW AND GENTILE
• 05:22 SLAVE AND FREE, MALE AND FEMALE.
• 05:25 THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT LIBERATING POINTS IN CHRISTIANITY.
• 05:30 ALRIGHT, BESIDES THE WOMEN, THE ISSUE OF THE DAY, HOLY WAR.
• 05:36 WHAT IS REALLY, IF I'M NOT WRONG,
• 05:38 I WOULD SAY THAT THE MUSLIMS HAVE A PLAN TO TAKE US OVER.
• 05:43 THEY HAVE TAKEN 22 MIDDLE EASTERN NATIONS.
• 05:45 I THINK ISRAEL IS 23.
• 05:47 I THINK THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, AMERICA, ETC, ARE NUMBERS 24 THROUGH SO AND SO
• 05:52 AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.
• 05:54 30 YEARS AGO, AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI SAID, 30 YEARS AGO HE SAID,
• 05:57 WE WILL NOT STOP UNTIL AMERICA IS AN ISLAMIC NATION.
• 06:01 IF YOU REMEMBER IN ESCHATOLOGY, IN PROPHECY,
• 06:03 ISLAM'S ENTIRE PROPHECY IS BASED ON WORLD DOMINATION.
• 06:07 ALLAH WILL COME AND JUDGE.
• 06:09 IF YOU EVER STUDIED THE, I CALL IT THE "STAY BEHIND SERIES",
• 06:12 THE MUSLIMS BELIEF OF THE END TIMES, NOT LEFT BEHIND, BUT, STAY BEHIND.
• 06:16 THEY BELIEVE THAT JESUS, FOLLOWING ALLAH'S COMMAND, WILL COME BACK.
• 06:19 JESUS WILL DO THREE THINGS: HE WILL KILL ALL THE SWINE, BREAK ALL THE CROSSES,
• 06:24 HE WILL THEN KILL ALL THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WHO DO NOT ACCEPT ALLAH.
• 06:28 SOME MUSLIMS BELIEVE THAT HE LANDS ON A MINARET IN DAMASCUS.
• 06:34 OTHERS BELIEVE HE COMES TO THE MT. OF OLIVES.
• 06:36 BUT, EVERYTHING FOR JESUS' RETURN, ISA, IN ISLAM,
• 06:39 EVERYTHING FOR HIS RETURN IS BASED ON WORLD DOMINATION.
• 06:42 THEY HAVE TO DOMINATE.
• 06:43 IT'S GEOPOLITICAL AS MUCH AS IT IS RELIGIOUS.
• 06:46 I SPEAK IN CHURCHES ABOUT THIS AND WHEN I'M ASKED ABOUT THEIR RELIGION,
• 06:53 I FIND MYSELF SAYING, I THINK YOU KNOW THAT FEELING,
• 06:56 YOU'RE SPEAKING AND YOU'RE INSPIRED AND OUT COMES WORDS YOU HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE,
• 07:00 BUT I FIND MYSELF SAYING, IT'S NOT REALLY A RELIGION,
• 07:04 FOR ALL THEIR PROTESTATIONS, IT'S A LAND GRABBING SCHEME.
• 07:07 THE NAZIS HAD A SCHEME, AN IDEOLOGY, A COCKAMAMIE RACIAL THEORY,
• 07:13 BUT THEY WANTED OTHER PEOPLES PRODUCE.
• 07:16 THE COMMUNIST, THEY WERE THE WORKERS OWN THE, EVERYBODY'S FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
• 07:21 BALONEY! THEY WANTED OTHER PEOPLES LANDS.
• 07:23 MUSLIMS BEHAVE EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE A RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGY.
• 07:28 AND REMEMBER MOHAMMED'S LAST WORDS AS RECORDED IN THE HADITH,
• 07:34 I GET IN TROUBLE FOR CALLING ISLAM A FORM OF MEDIEVAL MORMONISM.
• 07:39 THERE ARE SO MANY PARALLELS, POLYGAMY, TURNING JESUS INTO A PROPHET,
• 07:43 A NEW BOOK WHICH IS BASICALLY TAKING FROM THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT
• 07:46 AND CHANGING AS YOU WISH, TOTALLY WORK CENTERED
• 07:49 BUT ONE OF THE KEYS IS, BOTH IN MORMONISM AND IN ISLAM,
• 07:52 WE WANT TO ESTABLISH THE PERFECT LAND.
• 07:56 IN MORMONISM, SALT LAKE CITY BECAME THIS.
• 07:58 IT BECAME THE KINGDOM OF EARTH, ON EARTH.
• 08:01 IN ISLAM, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PERFECTLY PURE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC WAS MOHAMMED'S DREAM.
• 08:07 THE ONLY THING THAT STOPPED THIS WAS, AFTER HIS DEATH IN 632,
• 08:10 WHEN HE DIES, THE SPLINTERING AMONG THE ISLAMIC SECTS,
• 08:14 BUT IF THEY WOULD HAVE REMAINED TOGETHER, HIS DREAM WAS AN ISLAMIC WORLD.
• 08:18 WHEN I WAS IN SALT LAKE CITY, I FELT VERY AT HOME AT FIRST.
• 08:21 I MEAN, THERE IS THE BANK OF ZION,
• 08:22 THERE'S EVEN THE DEAD SEA, SO TO SPEAK.
• 08:26 BUT, THERE WERE NO JEWS.
• 08:29 THE BANK OF ZION--
• 08:31 YOU'RE NOT REALLY WELCOME.
• 08:33 THEY ARE A NEW CHOSEN PEOPLE AND JUST AS THEIR LAKE DOES NOT TASTE AS SALTY AS THE DEAD SEA,
• 08:39 AND I TRIED THAT, IT DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH OF THE SALT OF THE EARTH AS THE REAL DEAD SEA.
• 08:45 BUT, YOU SEE HOW THE MORMONS AND THE MUSLIMS BOTH TREAT THE JEW.
• 08:47 THEY SAY THE JEW HAS BEEN REPLACED.
• 08:50 THE NEW CHILDREN OF GOD, THE NEW CHILDREN OF ALLAH
• 08:52 ARE THE MUSLIM IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.
• 08:54 WELL, THE JEW HAD THE BOOK, BUT IT WAS CORRUPT.
• 08:56 THEY CHANGED THE STORIES, IBRAHIM DOES NOT TAKE,
• 08:59 TO THE TOP OF MT. MORIAH, ISAAC, HE TAKES ISHMAEL.
• 09:03 ONE OF THE CELEBRATIONS, ONE OF THE EADS
• 09:05 AND WHAT HAPPENS BY DOING SO, THE JEW IS REPLACED, THE SAME THING IN MORMONISM.
• 09:09 IT'S REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY. I ALWAYS TEACH THAT, TOO.
• 09:13 IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO REPLACE CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM.
• 09:17 YES SIR, YES SIR.
• 09:18 CAN THEY WIN?
• 09:20 I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I ABSOLUTELY DON'T BELIEVE SO.
• 09:21 OBVIOUSLY, SPIRITUALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY CAN WIN.
• 09:24 GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN US,
• 09:25 NO, THEY WOULDN'T WIN SPIRITUALLY
• 09:26 BUT EVEN IN THE POLITICAL SENSE, I OFTEN GET THE QUESTION,
• 09:28 WELL, DON'T YOU THINK THAT ISLAM IS THE GREAT WHORE OF BABYLON, REVELATION 17?
• 09:34 BUT, YOU MISUNDERSTAND, ISLAM IS AN OLIGARCHY.
• 09:38 ISLAM IS BASED ON TOTAL SUPPRESSION, CONVERSION BY THE SWORD.
• 09:42 MANKIND, BY IT'S VERY NATURE, HUMANKIND, BY OUR VERY NATURE,
• 09:48 WE DON'T LIKE TO BE FORCED TO DO ANYTHING.
• 09:52 I DON'T THINK CONVERSIONS BY THE SWORD WILL EVER WORK.
• 09:54 I THINK THEY CAN OPPRESS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME,
• 09:56 BUT THEY CAN NEVER COMPLETELY STAMP OUT MAN'S DESIRE
• 09:59 FOR HIS OWN FREE WILL, EVEN IN REBELLION.
• 10:04 ARE WE DOING THE RIGHT THING ON THIS WAR ON TERRORISM?
• 10:09 IT LOOKED TO ME AS IF WE'RE ATTACKED FROM SAUDI ARABI, BY SAUDI ARABIANS,
• 10:14 SO WE GO TO AFGHANISTAN AND WE GO TO IRAQ AND THOSE ARE--
• 10:18 I'M NOT CRITICIZING, I THINK WE'VE LIBERATED A GREAT MANY PEOPLE
• 10:22 AND CAUSED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO LIVE A MUCH BETTER LIFE.
• 10:27 BUT, WE'RE STILL NOT GETTING THE SAUDIS AND SYRIANS AND THE PLO
• 10:33 AND THE IRANIANS, THE REAL TERRORISTS, IT SEEMS TO ME.
• 10:37 WHAT WE HAVE DONE, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE CONTROVERSIAL THINGS THAT I SAY.
• 10:43 BUT, I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ IS NOT ONLY NECESSARY,
• 10:48 BUT IT IS MORAL, IT IS JUST.
• 10:51 I AM ONE OF 1.6 BILLION PEOPLE ON THE PLANET WHO COME FROM A MUSLIM BACKGROUND.
• 10:57 1.6 BILLION, I OUT OF 5 PEOPLE WHO WALK THIS EARTH.
• 11:00 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN ONE ACT IS TRANSFORM WORLD HISTORY IN THE LAST 1300 YEARS.
• 11:06 IF THIS GRAND EXPERIMENT OF IRAQ TAKES PLACE,
• 11:10 IF IT ACTUALLY WORKS AND THIS NEW INTERIM IRAQI CONSTITUTION BECOMES THE LAW OF THE LAND,
• 11:15 THE FIRST ISLAMIC REPUBLIC IN HISTORY TO EXCEPT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
• 11:20 WHAT WE'VE DONE IN IRAQ IS WE'VE ALLOWED MY PEOPLE TO HEAR THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST
• 11:23 WITHOUT BEING STONED TO DEATH AS A CONSEQUENCE.
• 11:26 WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TO TAKE A PAGE, IF I MAY,
• 11:30 OUT OF ISLAMIC WISDOM, WE HAVE CUT THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE
• 11:33 BECAUSE THE ONE THING HAMAS, THAT ADA FAIN,
• 11:37 ALL THE VARIOUS TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS HAVE IN COMMON IS A COMMON VOICE.
• 11:43 FOR 1300 YEARS MUSLIMS FIGHT.
• 11:45 NOW THEY EITHER FIGHT EACH OTHER, IRAN-IRAQ WAR IN 1980'S
• 11:50 OR THEY FIGHT AGAINST A COMMON ENEMY.
• 11:52 SALADIN IN THE CRUSADES, SALADIN WAS BRILLIANT BECAUSE SALADIN UNITED ALL MUSLIMS,
• 11:56 SUNNI, SUFFI, ALUITS, SHIA, HE UNITED ALL OF THEM AGAINST A COMMON IBLAS, A COMMON SATAN.
• 12:03 THAT'S WHAT BIN LADEN HAS DONE. HE'S UNITED ALL MUSLIMS.
• 12:07 THEY DON'T FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER FOR A WHILE,
• 12:08 BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE FIGHTING AGAINST A COMMON ENEMY,
• 12:11 THE GREAT SHATAN, THE GREAT SATAN.
• 12:13 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS CUT THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE.
• 12:17 GO AFTER THE VOICE.
• 12:19 GO AFTER THE LEADERSHIP AND WHAT YOU END UP HAVING IS
• 12:22 THEY WILL END UP SPLINTERING AND FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER ONCE AGAIN.
• 12:24 WELL, THAT'S HAPPENED IN IRAQ IN A WAY.
• 12:27 WE CUT OFF SADDAM HUSSEIN AND NOW YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PARTIES ARGUING IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
• 12:30 SHIITE VERSUS SUNNI AND SUNNI VERSUS KURD
• 12:32 AND YOU HAVE IN IRAQ, 60% OF THE COUNTRY IS SHIITE, 20% ARE SUNNI, 20% ARE KURD.
• 12:38 THAT WILL BE AN INTERNAL CIVIL WAR.
• 12:41 I PRAY IT DOESN'T BECOME A VIOLENT ONE, BUT IT WILL BE A CIVIL WAR FOR YEARS
• 12:44 AND IF THEY ARE CONCENTRATING ON EACH OTHER, THEY'RE NOT COMING AFTER US.
• 12:48 HE'S ERGUN CANER. HE'S THE BOTTOM LINE ON ISLAM.
• 12:51 HE LIVED THE STUFF, HE ATE AND DRANK THE STUFF AS HAS HIS FAMILY FOR MANY CENTURIES.
• 12:56 WE'LL BE BACK WITH HIM RIGHT AFTER THIS.
• 13:12 FOR A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST,
• 13:16 ASK FOR ZOLA'S FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER.
• 13:24 ZOLA'S NEW KINGDOM CATALOG DESCRIBES HIS, BOOKS,
• 13:27 TEACHING TAPES AND CORRESPONDENCE COURSE.
• 13:31 FOR ZOLA'S FREE NEWSLETTER AND CATALOG,
• 13:50 THUS SAYETH THE LORD GOD, I SHALL GATHER YOU FROM THE PEOPLES
• 13:54 AND ASSEMBLE YOU OUT OF THE COUNTRIES WHERE YOU'VE BEEN SCATTERED
• 13:58 AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
• 14:01 THE WILDERNESS AND THE DRY LAND SHALL BE GLAD.
• 14:04 THE DESERT SHALL REJOICE AND BLOSSOM AS THE ROSE.
• 14:08 YOU SHALL KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD WHEN I BRING YOU INTO THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
• 14:17 OF COURSE, ERGUN, WE STILL TAKE OUR TOURS, PEOPLE COME.
• 14:20 ARAFAT'S TRYING TO MAKE IT A WAR-TORN NATION.
• 14:25 THE LIE ALMOST FLIES, BUT IT DOESN'T QUITE.
• 14:28 PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND
• 14:30 ISRAEL IS A PROGRESSIVE COUNTRY RUNNING LIKE A WATCH.
• 14:32 THE PALESTINIANS, THROUGH SO MANY SELF INFLICTED WOUNDS,
• 14:36 ARE DESTITUTE ALMOST, ECONOMICALLY, MORALLY.
• 14:41 I DON'T GET IT.
• 14:43 BUT, WHEN WE TRAVEL THERE WE DO SEE THESE VEILED WOMEN
• 14:46 AND I'M WONDERING IN YOUR BOOK, "VOICES BEHIND THE VEIL"
• 14:50 IT'S WRITTEN BY CHRISTIAN WOMEN THAT WERE MUSLIMS?
• 14:54 IS THAT THE IDEA?
• 14:56 WELL, NOT JUST CHRISTIAN WOMEN WHO CAME OUT OF ISLAM, MISSIONARIES TO MUSLIMS.
• 15:00 OH, MISSIONARIES.
• 15:02 AND THEN SOME THAT ARE FORMER MUSLIMS.
• 15:04 ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, I WANTED TO FIND A BOOK THAT WOMEN WOULD COME UP AND SAY,
• 15:09 WELL, I WANT SOMETHING THAT SPEAKS TO THE CONDITION OF WOMEN
• 15:12 AND WHAT WE EITHER HAD WAS DEFENSES OF ISLAM, SECULAR BOOKS OR REACTIONARY WORKS,
• 15:20 STUFF THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE, "CHICKEN LITTLE, THE SKY IS FALLING" TYPE STUFF.
• 15:24 THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS A BOOK, FOR CHRISTIAN WOMEN, ABOUT MUSLIM WOMEN
• 15:28 AND THIS VITAL BECAUSE ONE OF THE MORE RELEVANT PROTOCOLS IN MY CULTURE,
• 15:33 THE ISLAMIC IS THIS, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CROSS-GENDER EVANGELISM.
• 15:39 IF YOU, AS A CHRISTIAN CAME TO THE DOOR AND A MUSLIM WOMAN ANSWERS
• 15:43 AND YOU BEGAN SHARING THE GOSPEL WITH HER,
• 15:46 YOU HAVE EITHER DISHONORED HER FAMILY OR YOU'VE INSULTED HER HUSBAND.
• 15:49 IT IS WOMAN TO WOMAN, MAN TO MAN IN MY CULTURE THAT THE COMMUNICATION GOES ON.
• 15:55 BY AND LARGE THE VEIL IS THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT YOU AS A MAN,
• 15:58 LOOKING UPON THEIR WIVES BUT, WOMAN TO WOMAN,
• 16:01 THEY HAVE ALL THE COMMUNICATION EVEN WITH THE HEATHENS EVEN WITH THE JEW OR THE CHRISTIAN,
• 16:06 THE MUSLIM WOMAN IS ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE.
• 16:08 WHAT I DID IS THIS, I PUT TOGETHER A RESEARCH PROJECT
• 16:12 WHERE THESE WOMEN TOLD ABOUT THERE LIVES.
• 16:14 THEY HAVE COME OUT OF SHIA, SUNNI, SUFFI
• 16:17 AND WE HAVE ONE WHO CAME OUT OF DRUZE BACKGROUND WHO ARE NOW CHRISTIANS.
• 16:22 WE ASKED THEM TO EXPLAIN YOU LIFE FROM BIRTH TO DEATH,
• 16:25 WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A MUSLIM CHILD, DAUGHTER, BETROTHED, YOUNG BRIDE, MOTHER,
• 16:32 ALL THE WAY THROUGH DEATH AND EXPLAIN TO US HOW A CHRISTIAN WOMAN
• 16:37 CAN REACH INTO THE LIFE OF A MUSLIM WOMAN AND BUILD A BRIDGE INTO HER LIFE.
• 16:42 IN THAT WAY IT'S UNIQUE TO WHAT YOU DO
• 16:45 BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT THE JEWISH CHRISTIAN RELATIONSHIP,
• 16:48 BUT, I MEAN YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR DECADES.
• 16:51 THE WORK OF THE COMPLETED JEW, I AM ONE WHO HAS COME TO JESUS CHRIST AS MESSIAH.
• 16:56 WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IN A SMALL WAY, MIRROR WHAT YOU DO.
• 17:01 WHAT I DID, COMING OUT OF ISLAM, I WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW WE DID THIS,
• 17:05 HOW DID WE COME THIS WAY AND FOR THE WOMAN, THEY DON'T LISTEN, THEY WOULDN'T LISTEN TO ME.
• 17:09 WHY WOULD A WOMAN, A MUSLIM WOMAN LISTEN TO ME?
• 17:12 I'M A KAFIR AL-ASQAR, BUT SHE WILL LISTEN--,
• 17:15 WHAT'S A KAFIR AL-ASQAR?
• 17:17 HIGH INFIDEL.
• 17:18 OH, WORSE THAN A NORMAL INFIDEL. >>YES.
• 17:22 ALL THE CHRISTIANS ARE INFIDELS, BUT YOU'RE A HIGH INFIDEL.
• 17:24 I HAVE A SPECIAL STAMP OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL, IF THAT MAY BE.
• 17:27 I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO HIERARCHY IN THE CHURCH, BUT ACCORDING TO THE ISLAM GROUPS--,
• 17:31 WELL, THE CONSIDER ME, YES, THEY WON'T EVEN LISTEN TO ME,
• 17:34 BUT THE WILL LISTEN TO THE WOMAN THAT THEY ARE WASHING THEIR CLOTHES WITH.
• 17:37 THEY WILL LISTEN TO THAT WOMAN THAT BUILDS THAT BRIDGE INTO HER LIFE.
• 17:41 AND SO, WHAT YOU DO IS UNIQUE BECAUSE, NOT ONLY THE FIRST ONE,
• 17:45 BUT YOU BUILT THE BRIDGE BETWEEN THE TWO.
• 17:47 I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE BRIDGE INTO THE LIVES OF MUSLIM PEOPLE.
• 17:51 I SIGN THE SAME VERSE THAT YOU DO, ROMANS 9:1-3
• 18:02 IF IN A SMALL WAY, I COULD DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR DECADES,
• 18:05 FOR MY PEOPLE--
• 18:07 YOU ARE DOING THAT IN A PRETTY BIG WAY.
• 18:09 THIS IS PUBLISHED BY KREGEL, I GUESS I CAN GET IT ANY PLACE.
• 18:12 "VOICES BEHIND THE VEIL."
• 18:14 WE WERE BLESSED.
• 18:15 IT HIT THE BEST SELLER LIST IN OCTOBER.
• 18:17 YES, I UNDERSTOOD THAT.
• 18:19 HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING BEHIND THESE VEILS AND SEEING WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON?
• 18:23 SOMETIMES YOU WILL HEAR SOMEBODY SAY, "WELL BEHIND THE VEIL THERE IS A WOMAN WHO'S BEEN LIBERATED"
• 18:27 AND IN MANY WAYS, MUSLIMS IN THEIR CULTURE DID ELEVATE THE POSITION OF WOMEN
• 18:32 FROM CATTLE TO PROPERTY, BUT REMEMBER, IT'S STILL PROTECTED PROPERTY.
• 18:37 IT'S NOT A VERY HIGH CALLING.
• 18:40 A MAN CAN HAVE FOUR WIVES, ACCORDING TO SURAH 4 VERSE 3.
• 18:44 HE CAN HAVE 2, 3 OR 4 WIVES BASED ON THIS VERSE.
• 18:46 A WOMAN IS ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE HUSBAND.
• 18:49 HOW DOES THIS WORK OUT OVER THE WHOLE SOCIETY,
• 18:51 BECAUSE THERE'S PRETTY MUCH AN EQUAL NUMBER OF WOMAN AND MEN.
• 18:54 BUT, YOU WILL HAVE, MOHAMMED WAS MARRIED 12-13 TIMES.
• 18:58 YOU HAVE NOT JUST HIS MARRIAGES, BUT HIS ARRANGED CONCUBINES.
• 19:02 YOU HAVE, IN MOST ISLAMIC COUNTRIES,
• 19:05 MEN WHO NOT ONLY HAVE WIVES, BUT IN THE SHIA WORLD,
• 19:08 YOU HAVE MUT'A, TEMPORARY BRIDES,
• 19:11 TEMPORARY WIVES. >>PROSTITUTES.
• 19:13 YOU CAN HAVE ONE IN EACH CITY, A MUT'A.
• 19:16 IT IS HORRIBLE.
• 19:20 I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY CALL IT, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, THIS IS IMMORAL
• 19:23 AND WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEIR PREACHING.
• 19:27 THEY DON'T LIKE OUR PRETTY WOMEN ON CNN OR FOX OR WHATEVER.
• 19:31 WE HAVE TO LISTEN AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE WAY THEY BEHAVE.
• 19:34 EVEN IN ETERNITY, THE MAN IS DOMINANT.
• 19:37 YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE MAN GET WHO'S THE BOMBER?
• 19:39 WHAT DOES THE MAN GET WHO STRAPS A BOMB ON?
• 19:41 HE GETS VIRGINS.
• 19:42 70 VIRGINS, PERPETUAL VIRGINS, WAITING ON COUCHES WITH POMEGRANATES.
• 19:46 WHAT DOES THE WOMAN GET?
• 19:48 I WAS OFTEN WONDERING.
• 19:49 WHAT DOES THE FEMALE JIHADIN GET?
• 19:51 IF YOU TELL A WOMAN THAT IF YOU STRAP A BOMB TO YOURSELF,
• 19:54 THERE ARE 70 VIRGIN MEN WAITING FOR YOU.
• 19:58 THAT'S NOT HEAVEN FOR HER.
• 20:00 THAT WOULD BE ANNOYING.
• 20:01 SHE'LL SPEND ETERNITY PUSHING THEM AWAY, "LEAVE ME ALONE".
• 20:04 BUT, WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THE WAHABI DEVELOPED A DOCTRINE.
• 20:07 THE WAHABI DEVELOPED A DOCTRINE OF THE FEMALE JIHADIN.
• 20:11 SHE IS ALLOWED TO PICK WHO WILL GO WITH HER TO PARADISE.
• 20:15 SHE ANNOUNCES, JUST LIKE YOU SEE ON HAMAS, THEY READ IT ON VIDEO NOW,
• 20:19 IT USED TO BE THEY WOULD JUST SPEAK TO THE CITY OR THEY WOULD STAND IN THE CITY SQUARE
• 20:22 AND THEY WOULD READ THE PROCLAMATION THAT I AM A JIHADIN.
• 20:24 THEY SAY WHO THEY WANT TO TAKE WITH THEM TO PARADISE.
• 20:28 THE MOTHER TAKES HER CHILDREN,
• 20:30 THE WOMAN, HER BROTHER OR SOMEONE SHE THINKS WON'T MAKE IT WITHOUT HER HELP.
• 20:33 SO SHE GETS REWARDED AND THEY ARE ALSO TAKEN TO PARADISE.
• 20:37 OF COURSE, AND NOW DO YOU SEE HOW THIS APPLIES TO THE ATONEMENT?
• 20:40 A MAN DIES FOR HIS SELFISH NEEDS IN ISLAM, A WOMAN DIES FOR HER FRIENDS.
• 20:45 IT'S REALLY NICER.
• 20:47 CHRIST DIES FOR THE WORLD.
• 20:49 I USE THAT AS A BRIDGE.
• 20:51 THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, THAT'S LOVELY.
• 20:53 I TELL THE MUSLIM WOMAN, WELL, SEE YOU DON'T HAVE TO STRAP A BOMB TO YOURSELF,
• 20:55 JESUS STRAPPED HIMSELF TO A CROSS AND HE DIED FOR HIS FRIENDS.
• 20:59 WHY DON'T THEY SEE HIM AS A SHAHID?
• 21:01 HE IS A MARTYR.
• 21:02 HE WAS, BUT IT WAS COSMIC DEATH.
• 21:06 MUSLIMS ALWAYS ASKS THE QUESTION,
• 21:08 "WHY DOES SOMEONE ELSE HAVE TO DIE FOR ME?"
• 21:10 REMEMBER, ISLAM IS COMPLETELY WORKS BASED.
• 21:12 IN THE 23RD CHAPTER OF THE QURAN SAYS,
• 21:16 AND IF YOU DIE WITH MORE GOOD THAN BAD, THEN ALLAH FORGETS THE BAD.
• 21:19 BUT, IN CHRISTIANITY, IN THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE OLD TESTAMENT, WHAT DO WE HAVE?
• 21:23 GOD DOESN'T FORGET IT, GOD PAID IT.
• 21:26 THE DEATH ON THE CROSS WAS THE WRATH OF GOD POURED OUT ON THE BACK.
• 21:38 IT ISN'T A PARDONED OR COMMUTED SENTENCE, HE PAID IT.
• 21:41 IT IS SATISFIED, THE LAW IS SATISFIED.
• 21:44 EXACTLY, THIS PROPITIATION SPEAKS TO THE HEART OF THE MUSLIM BECAUSE YOU SAY,
• 21:48 WAIT, ALLAH ISN'T JUST IF HE JUST FORGETS WHAT YOU DID 49% OF THE TIME.
• 21:53 BUT, GOD IS JUST, IF CHRIST DIED TO FULFILL, TO PAY, TO PROPITIATE, TO REDEEM.
• 22:00 THIS CONCEPT IS STARTING TO WORK.
• 22:02 WE ARE SEEING REVIVAL AMONG OUR PEOPLE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A MILLENNIA.
• 22:05 YOU'RE WRITING A CHRISTIAN COMMENTARY ON THE QURAN, ARE YOU NOT?
• 22:09 IT'S THE BIGGEST PROJECT WE'VE EVER DONE.
• 22:12 MY BROTHER AND I, MY BROTHER TEACHES AT SOUTHEASTERN SEMINARY AND I TEACH AT LIBERTY.
• 22:16 A MILLION WORD COMMENTARY ON THE ENTIRE QURAN,
• 22:21 CHRISTIAN COMMENTARY ON EVERY VERSE ON THE QURAN.
• 22:24 A MILLION WORDS IS A LOT OF WORDS.
• 22:26 WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S A BIGGER PROJECT THAN WE EXPECTED.
• 22:30 THEY WENT AFTER SALMAN RUSHDIE FOR ONE VERSE,
• 22:34 WHEN HE QUOTED FROM THE 53RD SURAH OF THE QURAN.
• 22:38 BUT WE'RE DOING FOR CHRISTIANS SO THAT WHEN YOU AND I HEAR MUSLIM SAY,
• 22:42 AH, "BUT, THE QURAN SAYS", THAT WE CAN GO TO ONE TEXT
• 22:46 AND FIND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, WHY WERE THEY QUOTING THIS?
• 22:51 WHAT DOES THE MUSLIM THINK ABOUT THIS AND HOW DOES THE CHRISTIAN RESPOND TO THIS.
• 22:55 NOW LOOK, WHAT ABOUT THE SALMAN RUSHDIE EFFECT ON YOU AND YOUR BROTHER.
• 22:59 WELL, WE LIVE IN AMERICA. I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
• 23:02 I CAN'T BE PRESIDENT.
• 23:04 BRITNEY SPEARS CAN BE PRESIDENT, JANET JACKSON CAN BE PRESIDENT, I CAN'T BE PRESIDENT.
• 23:09 I'M AN IMMIGRANT, RIGHT, BUT, I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN PROUDLY
• 23:13 BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE IN AMERICA IS RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
• 23:16 RELIGIOUS FREEDOM MEANS I HAVE THE RIGHT TO STAND IN FRONT OF A MOSQUE
• 23:19 AND TELL THEM THAT JESUS SAVES.
• 23:20 THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO STAND IN THEIR MOSQUE AND WORSHIP ALLAH, A DIFFERENT GOD.
• 23:24 A PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO WORSHIP NOTHING IF THEY WISH.
• 23:27 ALL I ASK IS THEY GIVE US THE SAME RIGHT IN THEIR COUNTRIES
• 23:30 THAT WE AFFORD THEM HERE IN AMERICA.
• 23:32 A LITTLE FREEDOM--
• 23:34 ISLAM HAS RELIGIOUS TOLERATION, IT DOESN'T HAVE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
• 23:38 THEY TOLERATE CHRISTIANS IN SYRIA, SAUDI ARABIA,
• 23:41 THEY ALLOW CHRISTIAN, WHO ARE ALREADY CHRISTIANS,
• 23:43 TO ENTER THEIR COUNTRIES, BUT YOU CANNOT BUILD A CHURCH.
• 23:47 YOU CAN NOT TELL A MUSLIM ABOUT CHRIST OR WIN A MUSLIM TO CHRIST.
• 23:50 TAKE THAT SAME THOUGHT TO JUDAISM, THEY DON'T ALLOW JEWS, DO THEY?
• 23:53 NO. >>I CAN'T IMAGINE BUILDING A SYNAGOGUE.
• 23:55 I FIND THIS SO ODD, SO AMAZING. EVERY TIME I SIT WITH YOU,
• 23:59 I THINK OF EVERYTHING I WAS TAUGHT AS A CHILD UNTIL I WAS ALMOST 20, ABOUT THE JEW,
• 24:05 THE VISCERAL HATRED THAT WE HAD FOR THE JEWS AND NOW,
• 24:11 I FIRST STARTED READING THROUGH THE BIBLE LIKE A TYPICAL NEW BELIEVER,
• 24:14 STARTED WITH MATTHEW AND I KEPT HEARING ALL THESE REFERENCES TO THE OLD TESTAMENT.
• 24:19 GOD HAD TO DO A SECOND WORK IN MY LIFE, NOT A SALVIFIC WORK.
• 24:24 BUT, GOD INSTILLED IN ME, A LOVE FOR THE JEW WHERE THERE HAD BEEN HATRED.
• 24:30 WHERE I HAD BEEN TAUGHT TO HATE, WHERE I HAD BEEN RAISED,
• 24:33 "AH, THE JEWS DRINK THE BLOOD OF OUR CHILDREN", WE WERE TAUGHT THIS,
• 24:36 THAT THE JEWS DRINK THE BLOOD LIABLE.
• 24:38 AND IT TURNS AROUND THAT THEY ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD, THE PRIEST NATION.
• 24:42 SURE.
• 24:43 GOD HAS ALWAYS HAD HIS CHILDREN.
• 24:45 GOD HAS ALWAYS LOVED HIS CHILDREN.
• 24:47 NOW I FIND MYSELF IN THE POSITION WHERE,
• 24:49 I GET TO NOT ONLY START WATCHING YOUR PROGRAM AS A YOUNG BOY, AS A YOUNG BELIEVER,
• 24:53 BUT I GET TO SIT ACROSS THE DESK WITH YOU.
• 24:55 IT'S MY PRIVILEGE.
• 24:57 THIS IS SO AVERAGE, THAT SOMEBODY COMES TO LOVE THE JEW BECAUSE HE COMES TO THE LORD.
• 25:06 I DON'T' KNOW, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE IDEA,
• 25:09 WHEN I GO TO CHURCHES,ONE OUT OF 2,000 CHURCHES IN SOME STATES
• 25:15 WANTS TO HEAR ME TALK ABOUT ISRAEL AND PROPHECY IN THE JEWISH NATION,
• 25:18 THE COMING KINGDOM AND THE OTHERS DON'T CARE?
• 25:21 WHY DO SOME CHRISTIANS LOVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE? >>WHY SOME DON'T?
• 25:26 WELL, HERE WE GO BACK A TIE TO THE MUSLIM WORLD.
• 25:29 IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, WE HAD WHAT WE CALLED MBB, MUSLIM BACKGROUND BELIEVERS.
• 25:34 A LOT OF MBB STILL HAVE THIS VESTIGE OF HATRED FOR THE JEW,
• 25:40 BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE WERE TAUGHT, RAISED THIS WAY.
• 25:42 SO, WHAT DO THEY DO?
• 25:44 HOW DO THEY JUSTIFY HATING ANYBODY, CERTAINLY THE CHILDREN OF GOD?
• 25:47 HOW DO THEY JUSTIFY HATING THE GOD WHO CALLS HIMSELF THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB?
• 25:52 WELL, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY DEVELOP A THEOLOGY.
• 25:55 THEY DEVELOP A THEOLOGY THAT PUSHES THE JEW OUT OF THE DOOR,
• 25:59 REPLACES THE JEW WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
• 26:01 IN ISLAM, THEY REPLACE THE JEW WITH THE MUSLIM.
• 26:04 IN THE CHRISTIAN WORLD, THESE CHURCHES REPLACE THE JEW WITH THE CHURCH.
• 26:08 IF YOU CAN REPLACE THE JEW, HE'S NO LONGER THE APPLE IN GOD'S EYE.
• 26:11 IF YOU CAN REPLACE HIM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOVE HIM.
• 26:14 HE'S JUST AS RIGHT ON THAT, AS HE IS ON EVERYTHING ELSE.
• 26:17 HE'S ERGUN CANER.
• 26:19 TUNE IN NEXT WEEK BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE GREATEST THREAT TO ISRAEL,
• 26:24 HIS THEOLOGICAL HOLOCAUST THEORIES, THE SHARIA, THE AWFUL LAW OF THE MUSLIMS.
• 26:32 WE'LL TAKE UP THE SUBJECT OF BIN LADEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND
• 26:36 AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS ABOUT THIS MUSLIM-JEWISH-CHRISTIAN THING.
• 26:42 WE'RE LIVING IN A TIME WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE MUSLIMS,
• 26:47 THAT'S, IF ONLY FOR DEFENSIVE REASONS AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE GUEST LIKE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
• 26:56 WE'VE HAD OTHERS, WHAT DID YOU CALL THEM, MBB MUSLIM BACKGROUND BELIEVERS.
• 27:01 THEY ARE LOVELY BELIEVERS, JUST EQUAL TO ANY OTHER CHRISTIAN.
• 27:09 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.