
A Man Crucified
On display at the Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem, a man’s heel bone that was pierced by a nail is the first archaeological proof of Roman crucifixions in Israel.
Air dates: 2013-Feb-24
Production Code: 1249
Episode 11 of 12 in the series “The Stones Cry Out (2012)”
Duration: 28:27
Year: 2013
Closed Captioned
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Caption transcript for The Stones Cry Out (2012): “A Man Crucified” (11/12)
- 60:01 (♪ "The Stones Cry Out" ♪)
- 60:23 Male Singer: ♪ IF NO ONE STANDS TO SPEAK, ♪
- 60:28 ♪ IF NO ONE PRAYS, ♪
- 60:34 ♪ THESE VERY STONES CRY OUT ♪
- 60:40 ♪ "I AM." ♪♪
- 60:46 Myles: SHALOM AND WELCOME
- 60:47 TO ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS.
- 60:48 I'M MYLES WEISS.
- 60:49 Katharine: AND I'M
- 60:50 KATHARINE WEISS.
- 60:51 Myles: AND WE ARE CONTINUING OUR
- 60:52 SERIES, "THE STONES CRY OUT."
- 60:54 THIS IS AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL LOOK
- 60:56 AT THE BIBLE, REALLY VERIFYING
- 60:58 THE TRUTH OF THE BIBLE
- 61:00 AS WELL AS THE REALITY
- 61:01 OF THE JEWISH PRESENCE IN
- 61:03 THE LAND FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS,
- 61:05 THINGS THAT ARE BEING DISPUTED
- 61:06 TODAY.
- 61:07 ANOTHER THING THAT'S BEEN
- 61:08 QUESTIONED IS WHETHER
- 61:09 THE CRUCIFIXION WAS REALLY TRUE
- 61:10 BECAUSE IT'S SUCH
- 61:11 A HORRIBLE DEATH.
- 61:12 AND IN THIS PROGRAM,
- 61:13 IT'S VERY SOBERING; WE'RE GOING
- 61:15 TO SEE EVIDENCE OF CRUCIFIXION
- 61:17 WHICH IS BEING UNEARTHED
- 61:18 IN OUR ERA.
- 61:19 REALLY, IT'S QUITE SOBERING
- 61:22 AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE
- 61:23 MEDICAL EFFECTS OF CRUCIFIXION
- 61:25 AND THE HORRIBLE MEANS
- 61:27 THAT IT WAS OF EXECUTING PEOPLE.
- 61:29 Katharine: AND WHAT JESUS
- 61:30 WENT THROUGH FOR OUR SALVATION.
- 61:31 Myles: EXACTLY...WHAT
- 61:33 HE SACRIFICED ON OUR BEHALF.
- 61:35 THIS IS A VERY TOUCHING PROGRAM,
- 61:37 SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU
- 61:38 SEEING THIS AND HEARING BACK
- 61:39 FROM YOU ABOUT IT.
- 61:40 Katharine: RIGHT, IT'S ALMOST...
- 61:42 YOU DON'T WANT TO TURN AWAY,
- 61:44 BUT PREPARE YOURSELVES
- 61:46 FOR THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE
- 61:47 YOU'LL SEE THE PRICE THAT
- 61:49 JESUS PAID FOR BOTH YOU AND I,
- 61:51 AND ALL HUMANITY,
- 61:53 TO HAVE RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
- 61:54 WE WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF
- 61:56 AN OFFER THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU.
- 61:59 IT'S "DISCOVERING
- 62:00 YOUR JEWISH ROOTS."
- 62:01 IT'S A NINE-CD BIBLE STUDY AND
- 62:03 IT'S A WONDERFUL IN-DEPTH STUDY
- 62:05 AND WE JUST WOULD LOVE YOU
- 62:06 TO GET IT
- 62:07 AND LEARN ABOUT YOUR ROOTS
- 62:09 IN YOUR CHRISTIAN FAITH.
- 62:11 Myles: EXACTLY, THE CHRISTIAN
- 62:12 FAITH HAS ROOTS IN JUDAISM
- 62:14 AND IN JEWISH LIFE.
- 62:15 THIS IS A GREAT STUDY
- 62:16 THAT WILL HELP YOU WITH THAT.
- 62:17 SO LET'S GO TO ISRAEL
- 62:19 WHERE TOM McCALL INTERVIEWED
- 62:21 ANTHROPOLOGIST JOE ZIAS.
- 62:27 ♪ ♪
- 62:30 Tom: JOE, I UNDERSTAND
- 62:31 YOU'VE BEEN STUDYING
- 62:32 THE FIELD OF CRUCIFIXION
- 62:33 FOR A LONG TIME.
- 62:35 CAN YOU TELL ME HOW RARE
- 62:37 WAS CRUCIFIXION AS A MEANS
- 62:39 OF EXECUTION IN ANCIENT TIMES?
- 62:42 Joe: WELL, ACTUALLY,
- 62:43 IT WAS VERY COMMON.
- 62:45 WE KNOW THAT THEY DID IT
- 62:46 FOR PERHAPS 800 YEARS.
- 62:47 THEY DID IT THROUGHOUT EUROPE,
- 62:49 NORTH AFRICA, WESTERN ASIA,
- 62:51 GREAT BRITAIN.
- 62:53 I THINK THE QUESTION IS NOT
- 62:54 WHO DID IT; THE QUESTION IS,
- 62:55 IS THERE ANYBODY
- 62:56 WHO DIDN'T DO IT?
- 62:57 AND WE KNOW THAT THE FIGURES
- 62:58 PROBABLY RUN, I WOULD SAY,
- 63:01 PERHAPS EVEN MAYBE OVER 100,000.
- 63:03 Tom: 100,000 PEOPLE PERHAPS--
- 63:05 Joe: DURING A PERIOD
- 63:06 OF 800 YEARS.
- 63:07 WE KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, ON ONE DAY
- 63:08 IN ROME THEY CRUCIFIED
- 63:09 6,000 PEOPLE IN ONE DAY.
- 63:10 IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF
- 63:11 HOW FAST THEY COULD DO IT,
- 63:13 HOW EFFICIENT THEY COULD DO IT.
- 63:15 Tom: WELL, WE KNOW THE ROMANS
- 63:16 USED IT EXTENSIVELY.
- 63:18 DID OTHER CULTURES USE IT
- 63:20 AS WELL?
- 63:21 Joe: EVERYBODY USED IT, THOUGH,
- 63:22 THERE WERE EXCEPTIONS, LIKE,
- 63:23 FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE JEWS.
- 63:25 THE JEWS CRUCIFIED UNDER VERY,
- 63:27 VERY WELL-DEFINED CIRCUMSTANCES
- 63:30 AND THAT WAS FOR GOING OVER
- 63:31 TO THE ENEMY, FOR PEOPLE
- 63:32 WHO WERE TRAITORS.
- 63:34 YOU WERE KILLED FIRST BY STONING
- 63:36 AND THEN AFTER YOU WERE DEAD,
- 63:37 YOU THEN WERE HUNG FROM A TREE.
- 63:38 Tom: WHY WOULD YOU HANG SOMEONE
- 63:40 AFTER THEY HAD BEEN KILLED?
- 63:42 Joe: YOU HAVE TO REALIZE
- 63:43 THAT BACK IN THOSE DAYS,
- 63:44 PEOPLE LIVED IN COMMUNITIES
- 63:45 WHERE EVERYBODY KNEW EACH OTHER
- 63:47 AND THIS WAS TO GOING
- 63:48 TO HUMILIATE THE FAMILY
- 63:49 OF THE INDIVIDUAL, THE PEOPLE
- 63:50 WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THIS.
- 63:52 Tom: IT WASN'T TO EXECUTE THEM,
- 63:53 THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN EXECUTED,
- 63:54 BUT TO--
- 63:55 Joe: THEY WERE DEAD, THEY WERE
- 63:56 DEAD AND THEN HUNG FROM A TREE.
- 63:57 Tom: HOW, ACTUALLY,
- 63:58 DID DEATH OCCUR
- 64:01 WHEN A PERSON WAS CRUCIFIED?
- 64:03 Joe: THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH IS,
- 64:04 UNTIL LATELY, VERY, VERY,
- 64:06 I THINK, MISUNDERSTOOD.
- 64:09 WE KNOW THAT, FOR EXAMPLE,
- 64:10 IF I WERE TO TAKE A YOUNG MAN,
- 64:11 IF I WERE TO HANDCUFF HIM
- 64:13 AND HANG HIM FROM A BEAM
- 64:14 BY HIS HANDS, HE'S DEAD
- 64:16 WITHIN AN HOUR OF ASPHYXIATION.
- 64:18 IF YOU HOLD HIS FEET DOWN,
- 64:20 SO HE CAN'T PULL HIMSELF
- 64:21 UP AND DOWN,
- 64:23 HE'S DEAD WITHIN 6-10 MINUTES.
- 64:24 Tom: SO IT MAKES A LOT
- 64:25 OF DIFFERENCE IF THE HANDS
- 64:27 ARE UP ABOVE THE HEAD.
- 64:28 Joe: EXACTLY.
- 64:29 ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THE HANDS
- 64:31 ARE EXTENDED IN THIS FASHION
- 64:32 HERE, YOU HAVE NO PROBLEMS
- 64:34 BREATHING WHATSOEVER.
- 64:36 THERE WERE EXPERIMENTS DONE
- 64:37 IN NEW YORK.
- 64:38 COLLEGE STUDENTS VOLUNTEERED TO
- 64:39 GO ON A CROSS WITH SEAT BELTS.
- 64:41 THEIR WHOLE PHYSIOLOGICAL
- 64:43 RESPONSE WAS MONITORED.
- 64:44 Tom: PEOPLE ACTUALLY VOLUNTEERED
- 64:45 TO BE CRUCIFIED TEMPORARILY
- 64:47 THEN.
- 64:49 Joe: THERE WERE STUDENTS
- 64:50 UP THERE FOR 45 MINUTES,
- 64:51 WHICH HAD NO PROBLEMS
- 64:52 WHATSOEVER WITH BREATHING;
- 64:53 SO ALL THE THEORIES
- 64:54 ABOUT BREATHING DIFFICULTIES
- 64:56 ARE CORRECT ONLY IF YOUR HANDS
- 64:58 ARE ABOVE YOUR HEAD.
- 64:59 IF YOUR HANDS ARE OUTSPREAD,
- 65:00 THE BODY GOES INTO WHAT'S CALLED
- 65:02 "HYPOVOLEMIC SHOCK."
- 65:03 IT'S ONE OF THE TYPES OF SHOCK.
- 65:05 AND YOU EVENTUALLY,
- 65:07 WHAT HAPPENS IS THE SYSTEM
- 65:08 METABOLICALLY, PHYSIOLOGICALLY
- 65:09 SHUTS DOWN, AND THEN,
- 65:11 YOU EVENTUALLY DIE.
- 65:12 NOW, I CAN KEEP YOU UP THERE
- 65:13 FOR HOURS, DAYS.
- 65:18 WE KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE,
- 65:19 OF A CASE IN BETHLEHEM
- 65:20 WHERE THERE WERE THREE FRIENDS
- 65:21 OF JOSEPHUS WHO WERE BEING
- 65:23 CRUCIFIED IN BETHLEHEM...
- 65:24 BEEN ON A CROSS, I THINK,
- 65:25 FOR TWO DAYS.
- 65:26 AND HE WENT TO THE AUTHORITIES
- 65:28 AND THEY SAID, "TAKE THEM DOWN."
- 65:30 HE WENT THERE
- 65:31 AND TOOK THEM DOWN.
- 65:32 ONE OR TWO OF THEM
- 65:33 LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER.
- 65:34 SO IT DEPENDS UPON, REALLY,
- 65:36 THE SADISTIC INGENUITY
- 65:37 OF THE EXECUTIONER.
- 65:38 HE CAN MAKE IT FAST.
- 65:39 HE CAN MAKE IT SLOW.
- 65:40 Tom: SO IN THIS KIND OF SHOCK,
- 65:42 WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SYSTEMS
- 65:44 OF THE BODY?
- 65:46 Joe: YEAH, WHAT HAPPENS IS IT
- 65:47 METABOLICALLY--THESE THINGS
- 65:49 AND PHYSIOLOGICALLY,
- 65:50 THESE THINGS START TO SHUT DOWN,
- 65:51 OKAY, IN THE WHOLE--
- 65:54 WHOLE PHYSIOLOGICAL PROCESS,
- 65:55 THE BREATHING,
- 65:56 THE BLOOD CIRCULATION
- 65:57 AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
- 65:59 NOW WHAT'S INTERESTING
- 66:00 ABOUT THIS IS IF YOU REMOVE
- 66:02 THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES
- 66:03 WHICH ARE CAUSING YOU
- 66:04 TO GO INTO HYPOVOLEMIC SHOCK,
- 66:07 YOU CAN REVIVE THE PERSON TODAY,
- 66:08 WE KNOW CLINICALLY
- 66:09 IN ABOUT 75% OF THE CASES,
- 66:11 WHICH IS THE REASON WHY
- 66:14 JOSEPHUS COULD GO TO BETHLEHEM,
- 66:15 REMOVE THESE INDIVIDUALS,
- 66:16 AND ONE OR MAYBE TWO OF THEM
- 66:19 SURVIVED.
- 66:20 THE OTHER THING IS,
- 66:21 I THINK THIS POINTS OUT THE FACT
- 66:23 THAT IN JUDAISM, ONE WAS
- 66:25 REQUIRED TO GO TO THE GRAVE
- 66:26 OF THE DECEASED THREE DAYS
- 66:27 AFTER THE PERSON DIED.
- 66:29 THE REASON IS THAT TRYING
- 66:31 TO CLINICALLY DEFINE DEATH,
- 66:33 EVEN TODAY,
- 66:34 FOR THE INEXPERIENCED PERSON,
- 66:36 IS VERY DIFFICULT.
- 66:38 AND SO BACK IN ANTIQUITY,
- 66:40 ACCORDING TO JUDAIC LAW,
- 66:42 THREE DAYS AFTER YOU WERE DEAD,
- 66:43 SOMEBODY WENT TO THE TOMB.
- 66:45 Tom: SO THEY HAD TO VERIFY THE--
- 66:47 Joe: THEY HAD TO VERIFY IT
- 66:48 AND WE EVEN KNOW OF A CASE,
- 66:49 FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THE JEWS
- 66:50 WENT TO THE TOMB
- 66:51 AND THE GUY WAS NOT DEAD.
- 66:52 HE HAD GONE INTO SOME TYPE
- 66:53 OF A COMA AND EVIDENTLY
- 66:55 IT WAS BECAUSE OF THAT
- 66:56 THE JEWS REALIZED THAT,
- 66:58 HALACHICALLY,
- 67:00 YOU HAD TO VISIT THE TOMB
- 67:01 THREE DAYS AFTER THE DEATH.
- 67:03 Zola: THE IMPORTANCE
- 67:04 OF THE THIRD DAY
- 67:05 IS EMPHASIZED IN MATTHEW 27,
- 67:07 WHICH STATES THAT:
- 67:23 JESUS HAD ADDRESSED THE
- 67:24 SIGNIFICANCE OF THE THIRD DAY
- 67:25 WHEN HE TOLD HIS DISCIPLES
- 67:27 THAT THE SON OF MAN WOULD BE
- 67:28 DELIVERED TO THE GENTILES
- 67:30 TO MOCK AND TO SCOURGE
- 67:31 AND TO CRUCIFY HIM
- 67:33 AND THE THIRD DAY
- 67:35 HE SHALL RISE AGAIN.
- 67:37 Tom: WELL, WE UNDERSTAND
- 67:38 THAT OFTEN DURING CRUCIFIXION,
- 67:41 THE LEGS OF THE VICTIM
- 67:43 WOULD BE BROKEN.
- 67:45 WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE IN THAT?
- 67:46 Joe: ONE OF THE THINGS WHICH
- 67:47 THEY WOULD DO TO PROLONG IT
- 67:50 IS THAT THEY WOULD TAKE A PIECE
- 67:51 OF WOOD ABOUT THIS WIDE...
- 67:55 ABOUT THIS LONG....
- 67:56 THEY WOULD PUT UNDERNEATH
- 67:57 THE BUTTOCKS.
- 67:58 AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS
- 67:59 THE INDIVIDUALS WOULD USE
- 68:00 THEIR ARMS AND THE LEGS
- 68:01 TO PUSH THEMSELVES UP
- 68:02 ON THE CROSS.
- 68:03 AND YOU CAN SIT THERE
- 68:04 FOR MAYBE A MINUTE OR TWO,
- 68:06 YOU CAN INHALE-EXHALE,
- 68:07 BUT WHAT HAPPENS,
- 68:08 EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO SLIP.
- 68:09 AND WHAT HAPPENS IS
- 68:10 THAT ONCE YOU STEP DOWN,
- 68:11 THE PROCESS THEN STARTS
- 68:12 ALL OVER AGAIN.
- 68:14 SO, TO MAKE DEATH MUCH QUICKER,
- 68:15 WHAT YOU DO IS
- 68:16 YOU BREAK THE LEGS AND THEY THEN
- 68:17 CANNOT USE THE LEGS TO PULL
- 68:18 THEMSELVES UP ON THIS LITTLE--
- 68:21 IT'S CALLED A SEDULUM.
- 68:23 SO WHAT IT DOES IS, AGAIN,
- 68:24 IN TERMS OF THE BODY
- 68:25 GOING INTO SHOCK,
- 68:26 IT'S GOING TO HASTEN DEATH.
- 68:28 Tom: SO THAT WAS A MEANS
- 68:29 OF HASTENING DEATH.
- 68:30 Joe: OF HASTENING A DEATH,
- 68:31 AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE
- 68:32 THERE MAY BE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
- 68:35 WAITING IN LINE, FOR EXAMPLE,
- 68:37 THE CASE IN ROME,
- 68:38 WHERE YOU'VE 6,000 PEOPLE.
- 68:39 YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT FAST
- 68:41 AND YOU CAN'T BE WAITING THERE
- 68:44 THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
- 68:45 SO THESE WERE WAYS, I THINK,
- 68:47 FOR THE ROMANS SOLDIERS--
- 68:48 IT WAS ALWAYS A THREE-MAN,
- 68:49 AN EXECUTION TEAM--THIS WAS
- 68:51 WAYS OF SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS.
- 68:53 Zola: ON THE DAY OF JESUS'
- 68:54 CRUCIFIXION, THE ROMAN SOLDIERS
- 68:56 BROKE THE LEGS
- 68:57 OF THE TWO THIEVES,
- 68:58 IN ORDER TO ASSURE THEIR DEATH
- 68:59 BEFORE THE ONCOMING SABBATH.
- 69:01 "BUT WHEN THEY CAME TO JESUS,
- 69:03 AND SAW THAT HE WAS DEAD
- 69:04 ALREADY,
- 69:05 THEY BRAKE NOT HIS LEGS:
- 69:07 BUT ONE OF THE SOLDIERS
- 69:08 WITH A SPEAR PIERCED HIS SIDE,
- 69:10 AND FORTHWITH CAME THERE OUT
- 69:12 BLOOD AND WATER.
- 69:14 FOR THESE THINGS WERE DONE,
- 69:16 THAT THE SCRIPTURE SHOULD BE
- 69:17 FULFILLED, A BONE OF HIM
- 69:19 SHALL NOT BE BROKEN."
- 69:21 AND AGAIN ANOTHER SCRIPTURE
- 69:22 SAITH, "THEY SHALL LOOK UPON HIM
- 69:24 WHOM THEY HAVE PIERCED.
- 69:26 Tom: JOE, I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE
- 69:28 MADE A VERY RARE FIND OF AN
- 69:32 EXAMPLE OF A CRUCIFIED PERSON.
- 69:39 WHEN WAS THIS FOUND
- 69:40 AND WHAT WERE THE CIRCUMSTANCES
- 69:42 AROUND ITS FINDING?
- 69:44 Joe: OKAY, IN 1968
- 69:47 A COLLEAGUE OF MINE WAS DIGGING
- 69:48 HERE IN JERUSALEM.
- 69:50 IT WAS ONE OF THESE ACCIDENTAL
- 69:51 FINDS AND HERE WERE A SERIES
- 69:54 OF OSSUARIES IN A JEWISH TOMB
- 69:56 GOING BACK TO THE TIME
- 69:57 OF CHRIST.
- 69:59 AND IN ONE OF THE OSSUARIES,
- 70:00 THEY FOUND A HEEL BONE.
- 70:01 IT'S WHAT'S CALLED
- 70:02 A "CALCANEUM" OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
- 70:04 AND WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS,
- 70:06 IF YOU LOOK VERY CLEARLY,
- 70:07 YOU CAN SEE THIS IS
- 70:08 AN INDIVIDUAL WHICH HAD A NAIL
- 70:10 WHICH IS DRIVEN LATERALLY
- 70:12 THROUGH A PIECE OF WOOD.
- 70:13 WE CAN STILL SEE TRACES
- 70:14 OF OLIVE WOOD HERE
- 70:15 AFTER 2,000 YEARS.
- 70:16 IT THEN WENT LATERALLY
- 70:18 INTO THE HEEL,
- 70:20 AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED...
- 70:21 Tom: NOW, THAT'S A--
- 70:23 Joe: THIS IS THE RIGHT HEEL.
- 70:24 Tom: --THE RIGHT HEEL
- 70:25 OF A HUMAN FOOT WITH A NAIL
- 70:29 THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT
- 70:31 AND THERE'S EVIDENCE OF
- 70:33 A PIECE OF WOOD--
- 70:34 Joe: A PIECE OF WOOD HERE.
- 70:35 Tom: --ON THE OUTSIDE.
- 70:36 Joe: OKAY, LET ME GO AHEAD
- 70:37 AND EXPLAIN IT TO YOU, PERHAPS,
- 70:38 IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND MAYBE
- 70:39 IT'LL MAKE IT MUCH CLEARER.
- 70:40 WE HAVE A NAIL HERE.
- 70:41 THIS IS ABOUT 11.5 CENTIMETERS
- 70:43 LONG; THIS WAS MORE OR LESS
- 70:44 THE LENGTH OF THAT NAIL.
- 70:45 Tom: THAT'S TYPICAL
- 70:46 OF THE ROMAN-SQUARED SHAPE
- 70:50 OF THE NAIL BODY ITSELF.
- 70:52 Joe: CORRECT.
- 70:54 WHAT THEY DID WAS THAT THEY
- 70:55 DROVE THIS THROUGH
- 70:56 A PIECE OF OLIVE WOOD.
- 70:57 IT THEN FUNCTIONS AS A WASHER.
- 70:59 NOW THAT YOU HAVE IT
- 71:00 THROUGH THE PIECE OF WOOD,
- 71:02 THEY THEN WOULD TAKE THE HEEL
- 71:03 OF THE INDIVIDUAL.
- 71:05 IT THEN PENETRATED THE HEEL
- 71:07 GOING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE.
- 71:09 AND IN THIS CASE HERE,
- 71:10 WHAT SEEMS TO BE OCCURRING,
- 71:11 THEY THEN NAILED HIM
- 71:13 TO THE TREE; AND WHAT HAPPENED,
- 71:15 AGAIN LEFT FOOT OVER HERE,
- 71:17 RIGHT FOOT OVER HERE,
- 71:19 WHAT HAPPENED, IT SEEMS THAT
- 71:21 WHEN THIS WENT INTO THE TREE,
- 71:23 THE NAIL BENT
- 71:24 AND IT FISH-HOOKED.
- 71:26 Tom: YOU MEAN IT HIT
- 71:27 AN OBSTRUCTION OF SOME KIND
- 71:28 OR A KNOT OR SOMETHING?
- 71:29 Joe: EXACTLY...PERHAPS A KNOT
- 71:30 IN THE WOOD OR SOMETHING HARD
- 71:31 IN THE WOOD.
- 71:32 WHEN IT FISH-HOOKED, IT THEN
- 71:33 BECAME IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE IT,
- 71:34 SO THAT'S THE REASON.
- 71:35 IF YOU LOOK AT THIS HERE,
- 71:37 WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE,
- 71:38 YOU SEE HOW THE THING IS BENT
- 71:39 OVER HERE AND THIS SIMPLY
- 71:41 MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE
- 71:44 SO THEY BURIED THIS INDIVIDUAL
- 71:46 WITH THE NAIL IN HIS FOOT.
- 71:47 Tom: NORMALLY, I SUPPOSE
- 71:48 THE NAIL WAS REMOVED,
- 71:50 IF IT COULD BE, IN MANY CASES.
- 71:53 Joe: YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT
- 71:54 WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE,
- 71:55 YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ONLY CASE
- 71:56 IN THE WORLD.
- 71:57 THERE IS NO OTHER CASE,
- 71:58 WHATSOEVER, WHERE WE HAVE
- 72:00 DIRECT PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
- 72:01 OF CRUCIFIXION.
- 72:03 THE REASONS I THINK ARE TWO;
- 72:04 ONE THING IS THAT MOST PEOPLE
- 72:05 WERE PROBABLY TIED TO CROSSES.
- 72:07 IF YOU LOOK AT THE GOOD THIEF
- 72:08 AND THE BAD THIEF,
- 72:09 THEY'RE ALWAYS TIED; JESUS IS
- 72:10 THE ONLY ONE THAT'S NAILED.
- 72:11 Tom: SO NAILING
- 72:12 WAS NOT ALWAYS COMMON.
- 72:13 Joe: I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN
- 72:14 THE EXCEPTION.
- 72:15 I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN
- 72:16 THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE,
- 72:17 FIRST OF ALL, JUST IN TERMS OF
- 72:18 ECOLOGY, IN TERMS OF HAVING TO
- 72:19 CONTINUALLY RECYCLE THE CROSS IF
- 72:21 YOU ARE CONTINUALLY NAILING IT.
- 72:24 AFTER A FEW CRUCIFIXIONS,
- 72:25 YOU HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER CROSS.
- 72:27 IF YOU TIED THEM UP THERE--
- 72:28 AGAIN, THERE'S NO RELATIONSHIP
- 72:29 WHATSOEVER BETWEEN
- 72:30 BEING NAILED OR TIED; THE BODY'S
- 72:32 GOING TO GO INTO SHOCK.
- 72:33 Tom: SAME THING HAPPENS.
- 72:34 Joe: SAME THING HAPPENS.
- 72:35 THE OTHER THING IS WE KNOW
- 72:36 FROM JEWISH SOURCES THAT THERE
- 72:37 WAS PROBABLY A BRISK TRADE
- 72:40 GOING ON IN NAILS OF PEOPLE
- 72:43 WHO HAVE BEEN CRUCIFIED.
- 72:44 Tom: WHY WOULD SOMEBODY WANT
- 72:45 A NAIL FROM SOMEBODY WHO HAD
- 72:47 BEEN CRUCIFIED?
- 72:48 Joe: ACCORDING TO
- 72:49 THE JEWISH SOURCES,
- 72:50 ACCORDING TO THE MISHNAH,
- 72:52 THERE WERE THREE THINGS
- 72:53 THAT A JEW COULD CARRY
- 72:54 IN HIS POCKET ON SHABBAT.
- 72:55 YOU KNOW THAT ON SHABBAT
- 72:56 JEWS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO CARRY
- 72:57 ANYTHING IN THEIR POCKETS,
- 72:58 NO MONEY,
- 73:00 BUT THERE WERE THREE EXCEPTIONS:
- 73:02 ONE WAS THE TOOTH OF A JACKAL;
- 73:04 THE OTHER WAS AN EGG
- 73:05 FROM A LIZARD; AND THE THIRD
- 73:06 THING WAS A NAIL OF A MAN
- 73:08 WHO HAD BEEN CRUCIFIED.
- 73:09 EVIDENTLY THESE THINGS
- 73:10 WERE SUCH POWERFUL AMULETS
- 73:13 THAT THESE WERE IN THAT CATEGORY
- 73:14 OF EXCEPTIONS WHICH YOU COULD
- 73:16 CARRY ON SHABBAT.
- 73:17 THEY WERE THAT POWERFUL.
- 73:19 SO THE EVIDENCE SEEMS TO SUGGEST
- 73:20 THERE WAS PROBABLY
- 73:21 A BRISK TRADING GOING ON
- 73:22 OF MEN WHO HAD BEEN CRUCIFIED
- 73:25 WITH THE NAILS.
- 73:26 Tom: SO THERE WAS A RELIGIOUS
- 73:27 REASON FOR WANTING A NAIL.
- 73:30 Joe: I WOULDN'T SAY RELIGIOUS,
- 73:32 I WOULD SAY A SUPERSTITIOUS
- 73:33 REASON IS WHAT IT WAS,
- 73:34 IT WAS SUPERSTITIOUS.
- 73:35 Tom: AND THAT'S WHY
- 73:36 YOU WOULDN'T FIND MANY BONES
- 73:39 WITH NAILS IN THEM
- 73:40 FROM CRUCIFIED PEOPLE.
- 73:41 Joe: I'M SURE...I'M SURE.
- 73:43 Tom: IT WAS A RARE THING,
- 73:44 BUT THEY COULDN'T REMOVE
- 73:47 THIS NAIL...
- 73:48 Joe: BECAUSE IT WAS BENT.
- 73:49 Tom: BECAUSE IT WAS BENT.
- 73:51 AND SO IT HAS BECOME ONE OF THE
- 73:53 RARE FINDS THAT HAS BEEN MADE.
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- 75:26 Tracie: IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU,
- 75:27 MYLES; IT'S JUST SUCH A JOY
- 75:28 TO HAVE YOU AND KATHARINE
- 75:29 ON THE TOUR.
- 75:30 I THINK ACTUALLY HAVING
- 75:31 A MARRIED COUPLE ON TOUR
- 75:32 HAS JUST EVEN DEEPENED
- 75:35 THAT INTIMACY; THE ONE THING
- 75:36 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY
- 75:37 IS JUST HOW YOUR INTIMACY IS
- 75:39 GOING TO DEEPEN WITH THE LORD
- 75:41 WHEN YOU COME ON TOUR AND TO SEE
- 75:42 A MARRIED COUPLE LIKE MYLES
- 75:44 AND KATHARINE WHO HAVE SERVED
- 75:45 THE LORD SO FAITHFULLY
- 75:46 AND WHO ARE TRULY ONE.
- 75:48 WE SEE MESSIANIC JEW
- 75:49 AND CHRISTIAN COMING TOGETHER
- 75:51 AND WHAT I TELL PEOPLE, MYLES,
- 75:53 IS THAT I WENT TO
- 75:54 DALLAS SEMINARY FOR FIVE YEARS.
- 75:55 WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT ISRAEL.
- 75:56 I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS IMPORTANT,
- 75:58 AND WHEN I TOOK MY FIRST TRIP
- 75:59 OVER THERE, I FELT LIKE
- 76:02 WHEN I WAS AT THE WESTERN WALL,
- 76:04 JUST AN ANALOGY I SAY IS I FELT
- 76:05 THAT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH
- 76:07 THE LORD WENT FROM A DATING
- 76:09 TO A MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP.
- 76:10 YOU KNOW, IN SCRIPTURE,
- 76:12 IT TALKS ABOUT "A KNOWING"
- 76:13 AND THERE IS A KNOWING
- 76:14 AND WE ARE SO THRILLED
- 76:16 AND WE'RE PRIVILEGED THAT YOU,
- 76:18 OUR VIEWERS, WOULD WATCH
- 76:19 OUR SHOW SO FAITHFULLY,
- 76:20 BUT THERE IS JUST SOMETHING THAT
- 76:22 CANNOT BE TRANSLATED THROUGH
- 76:23 THAT SCREEN THAT THE PEOPLE
- 76:25 ARE GOING TO FEEL OVER IN ISRAEL
- 76:26 TO THEM, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
- 76:28 Myles: IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
- 76:29 WE HAD ONE PASTOR COME WITH US
- 76:31 AND HE SAID I WISH I HAD
- 76:33 EXPERIENCED THIS 35 YEARS AGO
- 76:35 IN SEMINARY; WHY DID I WAIT
- 76:36 MY WHOLE MINISTRY LIFE TO FIND
- 76:38 THIS DEPTH IN THE WORD
- 76:40 AND THIS RICHNESS IN THE BIBLE
- 76:42 BY COMING TO ISRAEL.
- 76:43 SO IT REALLY DOES
- 76:44 DEEPEN EVERYTHING.
- 76:45 Tracie: IT DOES AND ONE THING
- 76:46 ABOUT OUR TOURS, PEOPLE NEED
- 76:47 TO KNOW, MYLES, THAT NOT
- 76:48 EVERY TOUR--MOST DON'T
- 76:49 ACTUALLY--HAVE
- 76:51 MESSIANIC JEWISH GUIDES
- 76:52 AND SO IT'S THAT KNOWLEDGE.
- 76:54 FIRST OF ALL, NOT ONLY DO THEY
- 76:55 NOT HAVE MESSIANIC JEWISH GUIDES
- 76:57 MOST DON'T HAVE TOUR PASTORS
- 76:58 SO WE HAVE A MESSIANIC JEW
- 76:59 TOUR PASTOR, YOU AND KATHARINE
- 77:01 THERE, OPENING THE WORD
- 77:03 DEVOTIONALLY AND THEN THERE IS
- 77:04 SOMETHING--THERE IS SOMETHING
- 77:06 IN ISRAEL...
- 77:07 THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD.
- 77:09 IT'S UNSPEAKABLE.
- 77:10 HIS PRESENCE IS THERE.
- 77:11 THE FIRST DAY ON OUR TOUR,
- 77:13 WE TAKE A BOAT RIDE
- 77:14 IN THE SEA OF GALILEE
- 77:15 AND I TELL YOU SOMETHING,
- 77:16 PEOPLE ARE SO LOOKING FORWARD
- 77:18 TO THE BAPTISM THAT AFTERNOON
- 77:19 THEY DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE
- 77:20 SO OVERWHELMING, TEARS JUST
- 77:23 FLOWING DOWN WHEN YOU ARE
- 77:26 ON THAT BOAT AND YOU HEAR
- 77:29 IN THE BACKGROUND, A SONG
- 77:30 PLAYING "IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU,
- 77:31 JESUS" AND YOU EXPERIENCE
- 77:33 AND YOU CAN ALMOST SEE
- 77:35 THE SCRIPTURE UNFOLDING
- 77:36 RIGHT BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES
- 77:37 AND WE WOULD LOVE YOU TO COME
- 77:38 WITH US ON TOUR.
- 77:40 Myles: THANK YOU, TRACIE.
- 77:41 THIS IS REALLY PART OF WHAT
- 77:42 WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE
- 77:43 AT ZOLA LEVITT MINISTRIES.
- 77:45 WE WANT TO DEEPEN
- 77:46 YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD.
- 77:47 WE WANT TO HELP YOU TO KNOW
- 77:49 MORE ABOUT THE BIBLE
- 77:50 AND TO UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES
- 77:52 FROM A HEBRAIC MIND-SET AND ALSO
- 77:53 TO JUST ENRICH YOUR FAITH.
- 77:55 NOW ONE WAY THAT YOU CAN DO THAT
- 77:56 IS THROUGH OUR OFFER THIS WEEK,
- 77:59 OUR RESOURCE THIS WEEK IS
- 78:00 "DISCOVERING OUR JEWISH ROOTS."
- 78:02 THIS IS A NINE-CD SET THAT WILL
- 78:04 HELP YOU TO REALLY CONNECT
- 78:06 THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE NEW,
- 78:08 TO UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE
- 78:09 OF HEBREW AND THE WAY
- 78:11 THAT JEWISH MIND-SET INFUSES
- 78:13 THE BIBLE; NOT JUST
- 78:14 THE OLD TESTAMENT BUT ALSO
- 78:15 INTO THE NEW TESTAMENT
- 78:17 AND HOW THE JEWISHNESS
- 78:18 OF THE GOSPEL COMES THROUGH
- 78:20 ONCE YOU SEE THINGS
- 78:21 FROM THE HEBREW MIND-SET.
- 78:22 THIS IS A GREAT RESOURCE.
- 78:24 WE WANT TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE
- 78:25 TO YOU.
- 78:26 WE REALLY LOVE BRINGING YOU
- 78:28 THESE PROGRAMS.
- 78:29 KATHARINE AND I HAVE BEEN
- 78:30 THRILLED TO BE PART
- 78:31 OF THIS MINISTRY.
- 78:32 WE WANT TO SEE IT NOT ONLY GROW
- 78:34 AND CONTINUE BUT WE'RE LOOKING
- 78:36 FOR REACHING THE NEXT
- 78:37 GENERATION, WE'RE LOOKING
- 78:38 FOR COLLEGE AGE AND YOUNGER
- 78:40 PEOPLE TO COME TO KNOW YESHUA
- 78:42 AS THE JEWISH MESSIAH.
- 78:44 WE'RE HOPING THAT
- 78:45 ZOLA LEVITT MINISTRIESWILL NOT
- 78:46 ONLY MAINTAIN WHAT WE'VE DONE
- 78:48 THAT'S BUILT ON THE FOUNDATION
- 78:49 THAT ZOLA LAID, BUT ALSO
- 78:52 BECAUSE IT'S BUILT ON
- 78:53 THE FOUNDATION OF GOD THAT IT
- 78:55 WILL INCREASE UNTIL WE SEE
- 78:57 THE DAY APPROACHING AS WE SEE
- 78:59 THE DAY OF THE LORD COMING.
- 79:00 AND HE'S COMING.
- 79:01 SO NOW LET'S GO TO TOM McCALL
- 79:03 WITH ANTHROPOLOGIST JOE ZIAS.
- 79:07 (♪ Somber Music ♪)
- 79:14 Tom: HOW DOES ALL OF THIS, JOE,
- 79:16 RELATE TO THE MOST IMPORTANT
- 79:17 CRUCIFIXION THAT WE KNOW OF,
- 79:19 THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS?
- 79:21 Joe: THIS IS A QUESTION
- 79:22 WHICH IS FREQUENTLY ASKED
- 79:25 AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT
- 79:26 PROBABLY IMPACTS VERY LITTLE.
- 79:30 THE REASON IS IF YOU LOOK
- 79:31 AT THE NEW TESTAMENT,
- 79:32 IT SAYS JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED...
- 79:34 END OF SENTENCE.
- 79:35 IT DOESN'T SAY HOW.
- 79:36 IT DOESN'T SAY THREE NAILS,
- 79:37 FOUR NAILS.
- 79:39 THE WHOLE QUESTION OF NAILING
- 79:40 OF THE FEET IS SOMETHING WHICH
- 79:41 IS VERY, VERY QUESTIONABLE.
- 79:43 IT SIMPLY SAYS HE WAS CRUCIFIED.
- 79:46 I THINK WHAT IT DOES,
- 79:47 IT FORCES US TO GO AND REALIZE
- 79:49 THAT MANY PEOPLE WERE CRUCIFIED.
- 79:51 IT WAS A VERY CRUEL
- 79:53 FORM OF PUNISHMENT.
- 79:56 IT WASN'T JUST SOMETHING WHICH
- 79:57 WAS FOR JESUS AND CHRISTIANS;
- 80:01 EVERYBODY DID IT FOR
- 80:02 A VERY, VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
- 80:04 SO THESE ARE TYPES OF QUESTIONS,
- 80:06 I THINK, WHICH ONE ASKS.
- 80:08 THE OTHER THING IS,
- 80:09 WHICH IS VERY CLEAR,
- 80:10 IT FORCES US TO GO AND ASK
- 80:12 QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL THOSE
- 80:13 PICTURES WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT
- 80:14 FOR OVER A THOUSAND YEARS.
- 80:17 ONE THING WHICH IS CLEAR
- 80:19 WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT
- 80:20 CRUCIFIXION SCENES, WITH
- 80:21 THE EXCEPTION OF VERY, VERY FEW--
- 80:23 AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS
- 80:24 FOR YEARS--WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING
- 80:26 AT CRUCIFIXION SCENES,
- 80:27 YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEOLOGY.
- 80:29 YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT HISTORY.
- 80:30 CASE IN POINT, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE
- 80:34 TO CRUCIFY A PERSON
- 80:35 THROUGH THE HANDS.
- 80:36 Tom: THROUGH THE PALMS
- 80:37 OF THE HANDS?
- 80:38 Joe: THE PALM OF THE HANDS.
- 80:39 Tom: THAT'S WHERE WE
- 80:40 NORMALLY SEE IT IN PICTURES.
- 80:41 Joe: THAT'S WHERE YOU'D ALWAYS,
- 80:42 WITH ONE OR TWO EXCEPTIONS.
- 80:45 WE'VE KNOWN SINCE THE 1940s
- 80:47 A FRENCH DOCTOR TOOK--
- 80:49 HE WAS A SURGEON.
- 80:50 HE TOOK ARMS OF PEOPLE
- 80:51 WHO'D BEEN AMPUTATED,
- 80:53 FIXED THEM TO A CROSS,
- 80:54 PUT WEIGHTS, HE FOUND OUT
- 80:55 THAT MORE THAN 80 POUNDS,
- 80:57 IF THE NAIL'S HERE,
- 80:58 THE BODY CAN'T BE SUPPORTED.
- 81:00 Tom: WHAT HAPPENS?
- 81:01 Joe: IT JUST RIPS OUT
- 81:02 BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING HERE.
- 81:03 YOU HAVE TO REALIZE,
- 81:04 THAT FROM THIS POINT ON,
- 81:05 WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS NOTHING
- 81:06 BUT FLESH AND MUSCLE.
- 81:08 Tom: SO IT'D JUST PULL OUT
- 81:09 FROM THE FINGER AREAS.
- 81:10 Joe: IT JUST PULLS OUT.
- 81:11 IF THEY DID NAIL
- 81:14 AND WE'VE KNOWN THIS NOW
- 81:15 FOR ABOUT 400 OR 500 YEARS.
- 81:18 WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL
- 81:19 THIS FRENCH DOCTOR TOLD US
- 81:20 IN THE 1940s; WE'VE KNOWN,
- 81:21 SINCE, I THINK, THE 16th CENTURY
- 81:24 THAT THE NAIL HAS TO GO
- 81:25 THROUGH THE WRIST.
- 81:27 FRENCH ARTISTS--ITALIAN ARTISTS
- 81:30 WERE PUTTING CADAVERS ON CROSSES
- 81:32 FOR ARTISTIC REALISM AND THEY
- 81:33 REALIZED IN THE 16th CENTURY
- 81:35 IF THE NAIL DOESN'T GO
- 81:36 THROUGH HERE...
- 81:37 THE BODY CAN'T BE SUPPORTED.
- 81:38 SO RULE NUMBER ONE,
- 81:40 IF THEY ARE USING NAILS,
- 81:41 IT HAS TO GO RIGHT IN HERE.
- 81:42 Tom: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
- 81:43 IT'S IN THE WRIST THERE?
- 81:44 WHAT KEEPS IT FROM COMING OUT?
- 81:46 Joe: OKAY WHAT YOU HAVE HERE,
- 81:47 YOU HAVE TWO BONES HERE.
- 81:48 YOU HAVE WHAT'S CALLED
- 81:49 THE ULNA AND THE RADIUS.
- 81:50 AND THE NAIL GOES BETWEEN
- 81:51 THE ULNA AND THE RADIUS.
- 81:53 THEN YOU HAVE THE SMALL BONES
- 81:55 HERE IN THE HAND WHICH ARE
- 81:57 FULLY ARTICULATED AND THIS WAS
- 81:58 WHAT YOU WERE SUSPENDED FROM.
- 82:00 Tom: AND THAT WOULD HOLD
- 82:01 THE WEIGHT OF THE PULL.
- 82:02 Joe: THAT WOULD HOLD.
- 82:03 IT WOULD HOLD SOMEONE
- 82:04 LIKE YOU OR SOMEONE LIKE ME.
- 82:05 THE OTHER THING WHICH YOU
- 82:06 HAVE TO REALIZE IS THAT
- 82:07 IN THE NEW TESTAMENT,
- 82:09 IT DOESN'T MENTION THREE NAILS,
- 82:10 FOUR NAILS, FIVE NAILS;
- 82:12 IT SIMPLY SAYS HE WAS CRUCIFIED.
- 82:13 Tom: YES.
- 82:14 Joe: NOW WHY DID THEY USE
- 82:15 THREE NAILS?
- 82:17 THEY USED THREE NAILS,
- 82:18 IT REPRESENTS THEOLOGY:
- 82:20 THE FATHER, THE SON
- 82:21 AND THE HOLY GHOST.
- 82:22 THE OTHER THING IS BY USING
- 82:23 THREE NAILS ON THE FEET,
- 82:25 WHAT YOU DO IS THAT YOU
- 82:26 CROSS THE FEET SO THAT YOU GET
- 82:27 ANOTHER CROSS IN.
- 82:30 THE OTHER THING IS THAT YOU HAVE
- 82:31 TO REALIZE, PEOPLE WHEN THEY
- 82:32 WERE CRUCIFIED, THEY WERE NAKED.
- 82:33 IF YOU LOOK AT THE GARMENT
- 82:34 WHICH JESUS IS WEARING
- 82:35 IT'S GENERALLY WHAT,
- 82:36 CROSS-SHAPED.
- 82:39 IT GOES THROUGH THE CROTCH,
- 82:40 UP AROUND THE WAIST.
- 82:42 SO WE SEE IN THE EARLY,
- 82:43 EARLY DAYS OF CHRISTIANITY,
- 82:45 IT TOOK THEM A WHILE BEFORE
- 82:46 THE ARTIST DECIDED, "OKAY, THIS
- 82:47 IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DONE,"
- 82:49 BUT AGAIN IT'S THEOLOGY,
- 82:51 IT'S NOT HISTORY.
- 82:52 (♪ Somber Music ♪)
- 83:06 ♪ ♪
- 83:39 ♪ ♪
- 83:59 Myles: VERY SOBERING AND REALLY
- 84:00 BRINGS HOME THE JEWISHNESS
- 84:02 OF JESUS AND WE SEE THAT
- 84:05 THE SACRIFICE WAS SO INCREDIBLE
- 84:08 THAT THIS WAS JUST A GRUESOME
- 84:10 DEATH THAT WAS PERPETRATED
- 84:12 BY THE ROMANS AND OTHERS
- 84:13 IN THAT ERA.
- 84:15 WE GET SO MUCH OF OUR
- 84:16 UNDERSTANDING OF WHO JESUS IS
- 84:18 FROM THE GREAT PAINTINGS AND
- 84:19 MASTERPIECES OVER THE CENTURIES
- 84:22 AND HE'S ALWAYS SORT OF
- 84:23 A BLOND, BLUE-EYED
- 84:24 SCANDINAVIAN-LOOKING JESUS
- 84:26 AND YET WE SEE THIS WAS
- 84:27 A VERY JEWISH MESSIAH
- 84:29 WHO CAME ACCORDING TO PROPHECY
- 84:32 AND LAID DOWN HIS LIFE
- 84:33 FOR YOU AND FOR ME.
- 84:35 Katharine: TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE
- 84:36 SO THAT WE CAN KNOW HIM
- 84:38 AND SHARE THAT LIFE THAT
- 84:39 HE WANTS US TO HAVE WITH HIM.
- 84:41 Myles: EXACTLY, AND FOR THE JEW
- 84:43 AND ALSO TO THE GREEK,
- 84:44 HE CAME FOR JEWS AND GENTILES,
- 84:46 NO MAN TOOK HIS LIFE BUT HE CAME
- 84:48 AND LAID IT DOWN SO THAT
- 84:49 THE JEWS AND ALSO THE NATIONS
- 84:51 COULD COME TO KNOW HIM,
- 84:52 BRILLIANT, WONDERFUL SAVIOR.
- 84:54 Katharine: MYLES, THIS RESOURCE
- 84:55 THAT WE HAVE,
- 84:56 "DISCOVERING YOUR JEWISH ROOTS,"
- 84:57 REALLY HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND
- 85:00 THE FOUNDATION OF OUR FAITH
- 85:02 AS CHRISTIANS.
- 85:04 IT REALLY HELPS US TO SEE
- 85:06 THE FEASTS OF THE LORD.
- 85:08 IT'S AN IN-DEPTH STUDY
- 85:09 OF THE FEASTS OF THE LORD.
- 85:11 AND YOU ALWAYS TEACH, MYLES,
- 85:13 THAT THERE IS A PERSONAL
- 85:15 MEANING, A PROPHETIC MEANING,
- 85:16 AND A LITERAL MEANING.
- 85:17 Myles: YOU'VE BEEN
- 85:18 LISTENING TO ME.
- 85:19 Katharine: I HAVE!
- 85:20 Myles: THAT'S RIGHT,
- 85:21 THERE'S A HISTORICAL MEANING,
- 85:22 THERE'S A PERSONAL MEANING
- 85:23 AND A PROPHETIC MEANING TO
- 85:24 ALL THE TEACHINGS IN THE WORD
- 85:25 AND ESPECIALLY
- 85:26 AROUND THE FEASTS.
- 85:27 THIS IS A REALLY GOOD
- 85:28 INTERIM TEACHING.
- 85:29 IF YOU ARE NOT READY FOR
- 85:30 THE INSTITUTE AND YOU THINK THAT
- 85:32 MAYBE THAT'S TOO INTENSE,
- 85:33 THIS MAY BE A REALLY GOOD
- 85:34 INTERMEDIARY STEP,
- 85:36 BECAUSE ITS NINE-CDS, IT GOES
- 85:38 THROUGH REALLY CONNECTING
- 85:39 THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE NEW
- 85:41 THAT WILL HELP YOU IN YOUR WALK
- 85:42 OF FAITH...IT REALLY DOES.
- 85:44 Katharine: I ALSO WANT
- 85:45 THE VIEWERS TO REMEMBER THAT
- 85:47 WE'VE ALL SUFFERED A LITTLE BIT
- 85:49 OF A SETBACK MAYBE FINANCIALLY
- 85:50 DURING THIS TIME AND SO THAT'S
- 85:52 WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS EXTRA
- 85:53 LITTLE ASKING OF YOU TO HELP US
- 85:57 DURING THIS TIME BECAUSE
- 85:59 WE NEED YOUR RESOURCES SO MUCH
- 86:00 SO WE CAN TAKE YOU TO ISRAEL
- 86:03 AND BRING YOU THESE MESSAGES
- 86:04 FROM THE LAND.
- 86:06 IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
- 86:08 THAT WE KEEP THIS MINISTRY GOING
- 86:10 FOR THAT REASON.
- 86:11 Myles: WE'VE BEEN IN MINISTRY
- 86:12 FOR 30 YEARS AND I WAS
- 86:13 REALLY IMPRESSED WHEN WE CAME
- 86:14 TO ZOLA LEVITT MINISTRIES
- 86:16 THAT THERE'S NOT
- 86:17 A WASTED DOLLAR HERE.
- 86:18 WE REALLY SEE THE MONEY
- 86:19 BEING STRETCHED
- 86:20 AND USED APPROPRIATELY.
- 86:22 WE'VE SEEN, REALLY, RESOURCES
- 86:24 USED THE WAY THEY'RE DEDICATED
- 86:25 AND DESIGNATED AND ESPECIALLY
- 86:28 DURING THIS TIME RIGHT NOW
- 86:29 WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING
- 86:30 IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
- 86:31 WHAT'S HAPPENING IN ISRAEL,
- 86:32 WE REALLY WANT TO STAND WITH
- 86:33 ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE
- 86:35 AND WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE
- 86:36 TO BRING YOU THE MOST
- 86:38 HIGH-QUALITY PROGRAMS
- 86:40 THAT WE CAN, SO WE APPRECIATE
- 86:42 YOUR HELP AT THIS TIME.
- 86:44 AND UNTIL WE SEE YOU AGAIN,
- 86:46 WE WANT TO REMIND YOU ALWAYS,
- 86:48 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM
- 86:50 Katharine: PRAY FOR THE PEACE
- 86:51 OF JERUSALEM.
- 86:54 HERE'S A LOOK AT
- 86:55 WHAT IS COMING UP NEXT WEEK
- 86:56 ON "THE STONES CRY OUT."
- 86:59 ♪ ♪
- 87:03 Dr. Danny Bahat: BEFOREHAND,
- 87:04 WHEN THE WALL WAS CONSTRUCTED,
- 87:06 IT REACHED ABOUT 35 METERS
- 87:09 ABOVE STREET LEVEL.
- 87:10 Zola: IT MEASURES 300 YARDS
- 87:12 IN LENGTH BY 80 YARDS IN WIDTH
- 87:14 AND WAS ONE OF THE LARGEST
- 87:15 GATHERING PLACES
- 87:17 FOR PUBLIC EVENTS,
- 87:18 SUCH AS CHARIOT RACES
- 87:19 AND ATHLETIC COMPETITIONS.
- 87:21 Ronan Betan: THE BURN
- 87:22 FROM THE SACRIFICES
- 87:24 DURING THE TIMES OF THE TEMPLE
- 87:26 Zola: THIS STONE INSCRIPTION
- 87:27 ASSERTS THE HISTORIC VALIDITY
- 87:29 OF THE JUDEAN PROCURATOR,
- 87:31 PONTIUS PILOT.
- 87:33 Avraham Biran: "BEIT JUDAH"...
- 87:34 "BEIT"..."HOUSE"...
- 87:36 "DAVID"...
- 87:38 "HOUSE OF DAVID"
- 87:39 >> AND WHEN THE ROMANS DECIDED
- 87:41 TO DESTROY THE TEMPLE MOUNT
- 87:42 THEY JUST DISLODGED THEM
- 87:44 AND ROLLED THEM DOWN
- 87:45 ONE AFTER THE OTHER.
- 87:50 Male Singer: ♪ LORD GOD, CREATOR OF HEAVEN ♪
- 87:58 ♪ LORD GOD, WE BRING FORTH YOUR PRAISES ♪
- 88:06 ♪ THE EARTH STANDS A TRIBUTE TO GLORY ♪
- 88:14 ♪ STONES TELL YOUR WONDERFUL STORY. ♪♪
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