
The Tunnel
Zola takes a tour through the tunnel under the western edge of the Temple Mount. From Jerusalem, we get a journalist’s perspective of the Palestinian uproar that occurred when the tunnel was opened to the public in September 1996.
Air dates: 2012-Nov-25
Production Code: 1239
Episode 1 of 12 in the series “The Stones Cry Out (2012)”
Duration: 28:30
Year: 2012
Closed Captioned
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Caption transcript for The Stones Cry Out (2012): “The Tunnel” (1/12)
- 00:01 (♪ "The Stones Cry Out" ♪)
- 00:07 ♪ ♪
- 00:23 Male Singer: ♪ IF NO ONE STANDS TO SPEAK, ♪
- 00:28 ♪ IF NO ONE PRAYS, ♪
- 00:34 ♪ THESE VERY STONES CRY OUT ♪
- 00:40 ♪ "I AM." ♪♪
- 00:45 Myles: SHALOM AND WELCOME
- 00:46 TO AN UPDATED SERIES,
- 00:48 "THE STONES CRY OUT."
- 00:49 THIS IS A WORK THAT ZOLA AND
- 00:51 TOM McCALL DID BACK IN THE '90s,
- 00:53 UNEARTHING THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL
- 00:55 EVIDENCE OF BIBLICAL TRUTH.
- 00:57 AND WE'RE THRILLED
- 00:58 TO BRING THIS TO YOU TODAY.
- 00:59 YOU KNOW, THIS VERY TITLE
- 01:01 IS BASED ON THE VERSE
- 01:02 FROM LUKE 19:40 WHERE JESUS SAID
- 01:05 THAT IF THE DISCIPLES
- 01:06 DIDN'T PRAISE HIM,
- 01:07 THE VERY STONES WOULD CRY OUT.
- 01:09 AND THEY ARE CRYING OUT
- 01:10 FROM ISRAEL, AREN'T THEY?
- 01:12 Katharine: CRYING OUT TODAY.
- 01:13 EACH AND EVERY DAY, THERE ARE
- 01:14 NEW ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIGS THAT ARE
- 01:16 BEING DISCOVERED THAT ARE
- 01:17 UNEARTHING HOW REAL THE BIBLE IS
- 01:21 AND HOW MUCH WE CAN KNOW.
- 01:23 OUR CAMERA CREW GOES FROM DAN
- 01:25 TO THE DEAD SEA,
- 01:26 FROM THE MEDITERRANEAN TO PETRA,
- 01:29 SHOWING AND TESTIFYING
- 01:31 OF THESE WONDERFUL STORIES.
- 01:33 Myles: IT'S REALLY AMAZING.
- 01:34 THERE'S SUCH CONTROVERSY TODAY.
- 01:36 THERE ARE SO MANY POLITICAL
- 01:37 VIEWS TRYING TO INTERFERE WITH
- 01:39 THE SCIENCE OF ARCHAEOLOGY
- 01:41 AND THE WAY THAT UNEARTHS
- 01:43 THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE.
- 01:44 WELL, WE GET A CHANCE
- 01:45 IN THIS SERIES TO SHOW YOU HOW
- 01:47 THE STONES ARE CRYING OUT
- 01:49 AND HOW THE VERY EARTH
- 01:50 IS VERIFYING
- 01:51 THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE.
- 01:52 IN THIS FIRST SEGMENT, ZOLA'S
- 01:55 GOING TO SPEAK TO DANNY BAHAT.
- 01:56 AND TOM McCALL
- 01:57 WILL SPEAK WITH DAVID DOLAN.
- 01:59 AND DANNY BAHAT IS GOING
- 02:00 TO SPEAK ABOUT THE UNEARTHING
- 02:01 OF THE HASMONIAN TUNNELS
- 02:03 AND THE TIME OF THE MACCABEES
- 02:05 AND HOW WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT
- 02:06 OUT, ARAFAT, BACK IN THE DAY,
- 02:09 HE SAID THAT IT WAS INTERFERING
- 02:11 WITH THE AL-AQSA MOSQUE
- 02:12 AND IT CAUSED RIOTS
- 02:13 IN WHICH 70 PEOPLE WERE KILLED.
- 02:15 Katharine: IT'S SUCH A SHAME
- 02:16 THAT OUR NEWS REPORTERS
- 02:19 DIDN'T EVEN GO DOWN AND SEE
- 02:21 WHAT WAS BEING PROMOTED AS
- 02:24 SOMETHING THAT WAS INTERFERING
- 02:26 WITH MUSLIM HOLY SITES.
- 02:28 Myles: EXACTLY
- 02:29 Katharine: THIS IS WHY WE NEED
- 02:30 YOUR GIFTS OF FUNDS SO MUCH
- 02:32 DURING THIS TIME,
- 02:33 SO WE COULD ACCURATELY SHOW YOU
- 02:34 WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE LAND.
- 02:36 WE TAKE YOU TO ISRAEL AND
- 02:38 ACCURATELY SHOW YOU WHAT'S GOING
- 02:40 ON THROUGH THE SCRIPTURE'S EYE.
- 02:42 Myles: EXACTLY
- 02:43 AND SO NOW LET'S GO TO ZOLA
- 02:44 ON LOCATION WITH DANNY BAHAT.
- 02:48 Danny: THAT'S A VIEW
- 02:49 OF THE OLD CITY FROM THE NORTH.
- 02:51 YOU CAN SEE THE PRAYING PLAZA,
- 02:52 WHICH IS HERE.
- 02:53 OUR TUNNELS GO ALL THE WAY ALONG
- 02:55 THE WESTERN WALL AND THIS IS
- 02:57 THE POINT WHERE WE GO INTO
- 02:59 THE MACCABEAN AQUEDUCT WHICH
- 03:01 GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HERE,
- 03:03 PAINTED IN BLUE.
- 03:04 THE LAST PART IS THE PART
- 03:06 THAT THE OFFICIAL TUNNEL
- 03:07 WAS MADE TO GO OUT HERE.
- 03:08 WE MADE THIS PLAN
- 03:10 IN ORDER TO SHOW, REALLY,
- 03:11 THAT WE'VE GOT NOTHING TO DO
- 03:13 WITH THE TEMPLE MOUNT PRECINCT.
- 03:14 WE ARE ALL THE WAY OUT
- 03:16 AND YOU SEE WE CAME EVEN FURTHER
- 03:18 FROM THE ABUTTING WALL TUNNEL
- 03:20 WHICH WE HAD BEFORE.
- 03:21 WE WENT ALL THE WAY,
- 03:22 AS FAR AS POSSIBLE,
- 03:24 TO ONE OF THE WIDEST STREETS
- 03:25 IN THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM.
- 03:26 Zola: THE ENTRANCE TO THE TUNNEL
- 03:27 IS HERE ON THE MAP
- 03:29 AND LOCATED ADJACENT
- 03:30 TO THE WESTERN WALL PLAZA.
- 03:32 DANNY AND I BEGAN OUR JOURNEY
- 03:34 AT THIS POINT.
- 03:36 THE LABYRINTH OF NARROW PASSAGES
- 03:38 IS MORE THAN 400 YARDS LONG
- 03:40 AND REVEALS OVER 2,000 YEARS
- 03:42 OF HISTORY.
- 03:43 THE FIRST SEGMENT OF THE TUNNEL
- 03:45 IS AN ARCHED WALKWAY
- 03:46 BUILT BY THE MAMLUKES
- 03:47 SOME 700 YEARS AGO.
- 03:49 ITS PURPOSE IS TO SUPPORT
- 03:51 THE ROADWAY ABOVE.
- 03:53 A FEW HUNDRED FEET FURTHER,
- 03:55 THE PASSAGEWAY OPENS INTO
- 03:56 A SPECTACULAR SUBTERRANEAN ROOM.
- 03:59 THE FINELY FASHIONED STONES
- 04:01 OF THIS HERODIAN STRUCTURE
- 04:03 SPEAK OF A JEWISH LEGACY DATING
- 04:04 BACK TO THE SECOND TEMPLE.
- 04:07 DANNY BAHAT EXPLAINS.
- 04:09 Danny: THIS ROOM, IT DATES FROM
- 04:10 THE TIME OF HEROD THE GREAT.
- 04:12 ACTUALLY, IT IS
- 04:14 THE ONLY BUILDING, HITHERTO,
- 04:16 FOUND IN THE COUNTRY,
- 04:18 ALL BUILT OF ASHLA, WHICH MEANS
- 04:20 SQUARE-CAST STONES IN SUCH
- 04:22 A MANNER IN THE MINOR BUILDING,
- 04:24 BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE MASONRY,
- 04:27 BEAUTIFUL ASHLA MASONRY
- 04:28 ON THE WESTERN WALL IN THE CAVE
- 04:30 OF THE PATRIARCHS AT HEBRON.
- 04:32 BUT THERE'S A KIND OF A ROOM.
- 04:33 THIS IS THE FIRST ONE HITHERTO
- 04:35 DISCOVERED IN SUCH A SHAPE.
- 04:37 WHAT IS IT, REALLY, FROM HEROD'S
- 04:38 TIME, I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
- 04:41 THERE ARE MANY SUGGESTIONS LIKE
- 04:42 THE CHAMBER OF ASHLA, WHICH WAS
- 04:44 A SUPREME COURT OF APPEAL
- 04:46 DURING THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD,
- 04:47 BUT I DON'T KNOW.
- 04:48 Zola: YES
- 04:49 Danny: BUT, OTHERWISE,
- 04:50 IT MUST HAVE BEEN A BUILDING
- 04:51 OF GREAT IMPORTANCE.
- 04:52 THE PROBLEM IS THAT ITS SHAPE
- 04:54 WAS COMPLETELY DISTORTED
- 04:56 DURING THE EARLY ARAB PERIOD
- 04:58 WHEN IT WAS USED
- 04:59 AS A KIND OF A WORKSHOP,
- 05:00 WHERE THEY SMELTED METAL,
- 05:02 BECAUSE WHEN WE EXCAVATED HERE,
- 05:03 WE FOUND MANY SLAGS
- 05:06 AND OTHER FURNACES
- 05:07 AND ALL KIND OF THINGS.
- 05:09 WE, OF COURSE, CLEANED IT,
- 05:10 IN ORDER TO BRING IT
- 05:11 TO THE SHAPE AS IT WAS,
- 05:12 MORE OR LESS, AS IT WAS DURING
- 05:14 THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD...
- 05:15 LET'S SAY THE TIME OF CHRIST.
- 05:17 NOW, ALL TOGETHER,
- 05:18 WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY,
- 05:19 THAT WALKING ALL THE WAY HERE,
- 05:21 WE WALKED UNDER DOMES AND VAULTS
- 05:24 WHICH DATE FROM
- 05:25 THE LATE MEDIEVAL, NAMELY FROM
- 05:27 WHAT WE CALL THE MAMLUKE PERIOD,
- 05:28 14th, 15th CENTURY,
- 05:30 AND WE CAME DOWN TO THIS PLACE
- 05:32 WHICH IS 1st CENTURY B.C.
- 05:33 Zola: OKAY, AS WE WENT
- 05:35 DOWNSTAIRS, OF COURSE, WE WENT
- 05:37 BACK HUNDREDS OF YEARS...
- 05:38 A THOUSAND YEARS.
- 05:39 Danny: IT'S TRUE.
- 05:40 THAT'S THE IDEA BECAUSE,
- 05:41 YOU SEE, THE SYSTEM OF TUNNELS
- 05:45 WHERE WE ARE NOW,
- 05:46 WHICH STARTED TO BE AND WHICH
- 05:48 THEY STARTED TO DIG IN 1968,
- 05:51 FOLLOWING THE SIX DAY WAR,
- 05:53 THIS SYSTEM OF TUNNELS I THINK
- 05:56 TODAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SITE
- 05:57 IN JERUSALEM.
- 05:58 WHY, BECAUSE THE HISTORY
- 06:00 OF JERUSALEM HAS UNDERGONE MANY
- 06:02 VICISSITUDES DURING HISTORY.
- 06:04 AND IN THESE TUNNELS
- 06:06 EVERY PERIOD OF THOSE PERIODS
- 06:08 IS SOMEHOW REPRESENTED.
- 06:10 IT MAY BE, FOR EXAMPLE,
- 06:11 THE EARLY ARAB, IT APPEARS,
- 06:13 IS PRESENTED BY REPAIRED WALLS
- 06:15 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
- 06:16 THE MAMLUKE,
- 06:17 THEY COVERED THE WESTERN WALL
- 06:19 IN ORDER TO LIFT
- 06:21 OR, ACTUALLY, TO, YES, TO RAISE
- 06:24 THE LEVEL OF THE OLD CITY
- 06:25 TO THE PRESENT LEVEL
- 06:27 BECAUSE OF VARIOUS OTHER REASONS
- 06:29 TO WHICH WE WILL REFER LATER.
- 06:30 AND ALL TOGETHER EVERY PERIOD
- 06:32 IS REPRESENTED SOMEHOW.
- 06:34 THIS ROOM IS ACTUALLY THE ACME
- 06:37 OF THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD
- 06:39 IF WE DON'T SPEAK ABOUT
- 06:40 THE WESTERN WALL,
- 06:41 BECAUSE THE WESTERN WALL,
- 06:42 OF COURSE, IS THE REASON
- 06:43 FOR THE WHOLE THING.
- 06:44 Zola: NOW, THIS, RUNNING
- 06:46 NEARBY HERE, ARE TWO TUNNELS.
- 06:49 THE ONE I UNDERSTOOD
- 06:50 THE ARCHAEOLOGIST BUILT IN ORDER
- 06:51 TO STUDY ALONG THE WESTERN WALL.
- 06:54 THE OTHER IS THE ONE
- 06:55 THAT WAS IN THE NEWS RECENTLY.
- 06:56 Danny: YES, WE HAVE EXCAVATED
- 06:58 TWO OF THEM.
- 06:59 ACTUALLY, THE FIRST ONE,
- 07:01 AS YOU SAID,
- 07:02 IS AN ARTIFICIAL TUNNEL BORED
- 07:04 BY ARCHAEOLOGISTS SINCE 1968
- 07:07 IN ORDER TO EXPOSE
- 07:08 THE WESTERN WALL.
- 07:10 WE WENT ALONG ALL KINDS
- 07:11 OF SYSTEMS OF RETAINING WALLS,
- 07:13 VAULTS, ARCHES, ALL KIND OF
- 07:15 THINGS WHICH ARE STILL TO BE
- 07:17 ANALYZED BUT IN PRINCIPLE
- 07:18 WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE.
- 07:20 AT THE END OF IT, WE CAME
- 07:23 INTO A TUNNEL WHICH WAS BOUGHT
- 07:25 BY THE MACCABEES
- 07:26 NAMELY IN THE 2nd CENTURY B.C.
- 07:29 IT IS CALLED EITHER MACCABEES OR
- 07:31 HASMONEANS, WHICH IS SYNONYMS.
- 07:33 Zola: ABOUT 200 YEARS
- 07:34 BEFORE CHRIST.
- 07:35 Danny: 200 YEARS BEFORE CHRIST.
- 07:37 NOW THE THING IS THAT THIS IS
- 07:39 SOMETHING OF EXTREME IMPORTANCE,
- 07:42 NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTY
- 07:43 OF THE SITE,
- 07:44 WHICH WE'LL SEE LATER.
- 07:45 NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF
- 07:46 THE IMPRESSION ONE GETS WHEN
- 07:47 HE WALKS THERE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE
- 07:50 IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT REMAINS
- 07:51 EVER FOUND IN THIS COUNTRY
- 07:53 BEFORE, PERTAINING TO
- 07:55 THE MACCABEAN PERIOD.
- 07:57 THIS IS REALLY UNIQUE.
- 07:59 ALSO, BECAUSE OF THAT,
- 08:00 WE HAVE EXPOSED THE REMAINS
- 08:02 WHICH ARE VERY SCANT,
- 08:04 BUT STILL ARE QUITE SIGNIFICANT
- 08:05 OF THE PALACE OF THE MACCABEES,
- 08:08 WHICH WAS TO THE NORTH OF
- 08:09 THE TEMPLE MOUNT OF THAT TIME,
- 08:11 COMPLETELY DESTROYED AND
- 08:12 SHAVED AWAY BY HEROD THE GREAT,
- 08:15 WHEN HE EXTENDED
- 08:16 THE TEMPLE MOUNT
- 08:17 AND BUILT ANTONIA FORTRESS,
- 08:18 THE FAMOUS FORTRESS WHICH PLAYED
- 08:20 SUCH AN IMPORTANT ROLE
- 08:21 IN EARLY CHRISTIANITY.
- 08:23 Zola: OKAY, THE MACCABEES
- 08:24 WERE A FAMILY THAT EXISTED
- 08:28 AND REVOLTED AGAINST
- 08:29 THE SYRO-PHOENICIANS
- 08:31 WHO WERE CONTROLLING THE LAND
- 08:33 AGAINST ANTIOCHUS, IF I'M RIGHT,
- 08:35 AND THEY HAD A PALACE HERE
- 08:38 AS YOU'RE EXPLAINING.
- 08:39 Danny: NOW THAT FAMILY IT WAS...
- 08:41 CAME ACTUALLY, IT WAS
- 08:42 THE RULER OF AUTOCRACY
- 08:44 IN OUR COUNTRY IN JUDAH.
- 08:46 AND IN THE 2nd CENTURY WHEN
- 08:48 THERE WERE TWO TRENDS AMONGST
- 08:49 THE JEWS LIVING IN THE COUNTRY
- 08:51 WHO WERE UNDER THE YOKE
- 08:53 OF THE SELEUCIDS.
- 08:54 THE SELEUCIDS WERE THE HEIRS
- 08:55 OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT.
- 08:57 NOW THERE WERE TWO TENDENCIES
- 08:59 IN THE COUNTRY, TO ACCEPT
- 09:00 THE HELLENISTIC WAY OF LIFE,
- 09:02 OR TO PRESERVE
- 09:04 THE AUTHENTIC JEWISH LIFE.
- 09:05 Zola: OKAY.
- 09:06 Danny: THE FIGHT
- 09:07 ALMOST ENDED WITH ENCOURAGEMENT
- 09:09 OF THE SELEUCIDS,
- 09:10 NAMELY OF THE THOSE, LET'S SAY
- 09:11 GREEK-ORIENTATED RULERS
- 09:14 OF THE COUNTRY TO GO INTO
- 09:16 REALLY GREEK-ORIENTATED WAY
- 09:18 OF LIFE, BUT THERE WAS A KIND OF
- 09:21 A ZEAL AMONGST THE RURAL PEOPLE
- 09:25 TO MAINTAIN JEWISH WAYS OF LIFE.
- 09:27 THAT FAMILY, WHICH COMES FROM
- 09:28 A LITTLE TOWN NAMED MODI'IN,
- 09:30 WHICH IS NOT FAR FROM JERUSALEM.
- 09:31 IT'S ABOUT 30 KILOMETERS
- 09:33 FROM JERUSALEM.
- 09:34 THEY REBELLED AND THEY MANAGED
- 09:36 TO ORGANIZE A WHOLE REVOLT
- 09:38 AGAINST THE SELEUCIDS.
- 09:40 FINALLY JUDAH
- 09:41 RECEIVED ITS INDEPENDENCE,
- 09:43 AND FOR OVER 200 YEARS, JUDAH
- 09:45 WAS AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY.
- 09:47 Zola: AND THAT ESTABLISHED
- 09:48 A HOLIDAY CALLED "HANUKKAH."
- 09:51 Danny: BECAUSE OF THE VICTORY
- 09:52 WE CELEBRATE TO THIS VERY DAY,
- 09:53 THE HANUKKAH HOLY DAY, WHICH IS
- 09:56 ACTUALLY TO COMMEMORATE NOT ONLY
- 09:57 THE VICTORY OF THE SELEUCIDS
- 09:59 AND THEIR CONSTRUCTION
- 10:00 OF THE TEMPLE,
- 10:01 BUT ALSO IT IS IN ORDER
- 10:03 TO COMMEMORATE THE GREAT MIRACLE
- 10:05 WHICH OCCURRED WHEN THE JEWS
- 10:06 MANAGED TO KINDLE
- 10:08 THE CANDELABRUM FOR 8 DAYS,
- 10:11 ALTHOUGH THE EWER,
- 10:12 THE LITTLE PURE OIL THEY FOUND,
- 10:14 COULD SUFFICE FOR ONLY ONE DAY.
- 10:15 AND THIS IS REALLY
- 10:16 THE MAIN REASON
- 10:17 BECAUSE IT WAS A MIRACLE;
- 10:18 IT WAS A DIVINE MIRACLE.
- 10:19 Zola: TO TAKE YOUR ATTENTION
- 10:20 BACK TO THE TUNNEL THEN,
- 10:22 IT IS SORT OF--
- 10:23 WELL, IT'S MORE THAN SORT OF,
- 10:25 IT IS A REAL PROOF
- 10:26 OF THE JEWISH PRIMACY
- 10:28 IN THIS LAND AT THAT TIME.
- 10:29 Danny: DEFINITELY.
- 10:30 WHEN WE WOULD WALK
- 10:31 ALONG THE WESTERN WALL
- 10:33 OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
- 10:34 YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE
- 10:35 ACTUALLY WALKING ALONG
- 10:37 THE MOST MAGNIFICENT STRUCTURE
- 10:39 IN ANTIQUITY.
- 10:40 I ALWAYS SAY,
- 10:41 IN A KIND OF A JOKE,
- 10:43 THAT THE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT SEVEN
- 10:44 MARVELS OF THE ANCIENT WORLD.
- 10:47 I SAY ALWAYS THERE WERE NINE.
- 10:49 THE NINTH BEING, WHY DIDN'T
- 10:50 THE TEMPLE MOUNT IN JERUSALEM
- 10:52 BECOME THE EIGHTH?
- 10:53 BECAUSE, BY FAR MORE,
- 10:55 IT EXCEEDS ANY OTHER STRUCTURE
- 10:57 OF ANTIQUITY.
- 10:59 FOR EXAMPLE,
- 11:00 IF ONE OF THE MARVELS WERE
- 11:02 THE GREAT PYRAMIDS OF EGYPT AND
- 11:03 YOU COULD TAKE THREE AND A HALF
- 11:05 OF THE GREAT PYRAMIDS AND
- 11:06 PUT THEM ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 11:09 NOW, THE THING IS, THAT IT IS
- 11:10 REALLY A UNIQUE STRUCTURE
- 11:12 AND YOU'LL SEE WE ARE WALKING
- 11:13 AND WALKING AND WALKING ALONG
- 11:15 ONE MORE WALL WHICH ORIGINALLY
- 11:17 WAS VERY HIGH, IN SOME PLACES
- 11:19 OVER 200 FEET HIGH.
- 11:21 AND YOU ARE WALKING ALONG IT
- 11:22 WITH BEAUTIFUL MASONRY,
- 11:24 VERY WELL EXECUTED,
- 11:26 SO ALL THAT CAN REALLY GIVE YOU
- 11:27 REALLY THE IMPRESSION
- 11:28 OF HOW BIG IT WAS.
- 11:29 THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY THAT,
- 11:31 UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAME AGAIN
- 11:33 TO THAT PHASE WHEN WE'VE GOT TO
- 11:35 PROVE THAT JERUSALEM IS HOLY
- 11:37 TO US AND THE TEMPLE MOUNT
- 11:38 WAS BUILT BY A JEWISH KING.
- 11:40 AND THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH
- 11:41 I THOUGHT WILL NEVER OCCUR AGAIN
- 11:43 AND INDEED, IT COMES HERE AGAIN
- 11:45 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
- 11:46 WE'VE GOT TO BE A KIND OF--
- 11:48 TO TRY TO EXPLAIN
- 11:49 WHAT WE ARE DOING AND HOW.
- 11:50 THE JEWS WHO PRAY AT
- 11:52 THE WESTERN WALL WANT TO KNOW--
- 11:54 WHICH IS THE HOLIEST PLACE
- 11:55 FOR JUDAISM AT PRESENT--
- 11:57 WANT TO KNOW ALSO TO SAY
- 11:59 THE SECRETS OF THE WESTERN WALL,
- 12:01 WHERE DOES IT START,
- 12:02 WHERE DOES IT END?
- 12:03 AND THIS WAS REALLY THE PURPOSE
- 12:04 OF THE TUNNEL,
- 12:05 OF DIGGING THE TUNNEL,
- 12:06 AND I THINK WE GIVE
- 12:07 ALL THE ANSWERS
- 12:08 IN A MOST SATISFACTORY MANNER.
- 12:09 Zola: YEAH.
- 12:10 SO NOW, WITH THIS TUNNEL DUG,
- 12:12 PEOPLE FROM THE WALL CAN WALK
- 12:14 ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND COME OUT
- 12:16 AT THE VIA DOLOROSA IN
- 12:17 THE MUSLIM QUARTER OF JERUSALEM.
- 12:19 Danny: WHICH MEANS THEY CAN WALK
- 12:20 OVER I WOULD SAY ABOUT 400 YARDS
- 12:24 TO SEE THE GREATNESS
- 12:26 OF THE WESTERN WALL AND TO COME
- 12:27 OUT IN THE VIA DOLOROSA TODAY.
- 12:31 Zola: WHEN WE RETURN, WE'LL
- 12:32 JOURNEY DEEP INSIDE THE TUNNEL,
- 12:34 TO THE VERY BASE
- 12:35 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
- 12:36 AND, LATER ON, WHY DID THE MEDIA
- 12:38 MAKE SO MANY MISTAKES IN
- 12:40 REPORTING THE TUNNEL INCIDENT?
- 12:42 WE'LL GET A JOURNALIST'S
- 12:43 PERSPECTIVE.
- 12:44 David Dolan: AND I THINK THERE
- 12:45 WAS A REAL STEPPING BACK
- 12:47 AND SAYING WE'LL JUST REPORT
- 12:49 WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
- 12:50 WE WON'T ACTUALLY GO IN AND DO
- 12:51 ANY INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING
- 12:52 OURSELVES, THAT'S THE SAFEST WAY
- 12:54 TO APPROACH IT.
- 12:55 ♪ ♪
- 13:04 ♪ ♪
- 13:38 Katharine: ISRAEL...
- 13:39 THE LAND OF COVENANTS...
- 13:40 THE LAND WHERE THE BIBLE
- 13:41 COMES ALIVE AND HIS VOICE
- 13:43 IS EVEN LOUDER THAN EVER.
- 13:44 Myles: I KNOW.
- 13:45 IT'S REALLY TRUE.
- 13:46 THE LAST TIME WE WERE IN ISRAEL
- 13:48 ONE OF OUR PILGRIMS FOUND A COIN
- 13:49 FROM THE MACCABEAN ERA.
- 13:51 THIS VERY SERIES THAT WE'RE
- 13:52 DOING, "THE STONES CRY OUT," IS
- 13:54 BEING VERIFIED EVEN IN OUR DAY,
- 13:56 SO YOU WANT TO COME TO ISRAEL
- 13:57 WITH US.
- 13:58 ANOTHER WAY TO STUDY
- 13:59 YOUR JEWISH-CHRISTIAN ROOTS
- 14:01 IS TO RECEIVE OUR INSTITUTE
- 14:03 OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
- 14:05 IT'S AN AMAZING PACKET
- 14:06 OF TEACHING THAT CAME
- 14:08 FROM JEFF SEIF AND ZOLA LEVITT.
- 14:10 THERE'S ONE CD, THREE CDs,
- 14:11 OR THE ENTIRE SEGMENT OF 12 CDs
- 14:14 THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE.
- 14:15 IN FACT, IT'S BEEN SO--HAD SUCH
- 14:16 AN IMPACT ON SOME OF OUR PEOPLE,
- 14:18 THAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM
- 14:19 ONE OF OUR STUDENTS RIGHT NOW.
- 14:22 Britnni Rummel: I WOULD
- 14:23 RECOMMEND THIS INSTITUTE
- 14:24 BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPED ME
- 14:25 DEEPEN MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
- 14:27 GOING BACK AND LEARNING ABOUT
- 14:28 THE OLD TESTAMENT STUDIES, THERE
- 14:30 ARE A LOT OF CRAZY AND CONFUSING
- 14:32 THINGS IN THERE SOMETIMES, AND
- 14:33 TO REALLY GO BACK AND UNDERSTAND
- 14:35 THE CONTEXT OF IT, REALLY
- 14:37 HELPED ME WITH CHRISTIANITY,
- 14:39 BECAUSE WE HAVE HEBREW ROOTS.
- 14:40 WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN?
- 14:42 IT TEACHES YOU WHAT IT MEANS
- 14:44 AND WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR AND
- 14:46 IT JUST REALLY BRINGS ME BACK
- 14:47 TO YESHUA AND WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE
- 14:50 FOR HIM, AND IT REALLY JUST
- 14:51 STRENGTHENED AND DEEPENED MY
- 14:52 RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD OVERALL.
- 14:55 Myles: I SO APPRECIATE
- 14:56 THAT TESTIMONY; YOU KNOW,
- 14:57 THIS IS NOT JUST A CD COURSE.
- 15:00 THIS IS COMPARABLE
- 15:02 TO A BIBLE COLLEGE COURSE.
- 15:03 THE RESOURCE THIS WEEK
- 15:04 IS THE ENTIRE INSTITUTE
- 15:06 OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
- 15:08 I REMEMBER BRINGING A PASTOR
- 15:09 TO ISRAEL AND HE SAID,
- 15:10 "I WISH I HAD DONE THIS
- 15:11 35 YEARS AGO IN SEMINARY."
- 15:13 THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT
- 15:15 OF A SEMINARY COURSE
- 15:16 IN JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
- 15:18 Katharine: YEAH, THIS COURSE
- 15:20 WILL NOT ONLY INSPIRE YOU
- 15:22 IN THE WORD AND IN
- 15:23 THE JEWISHNESS OF THE GOSPEL,
- 15:25 BUT IT'LL EDUCATE YOU
- 15:26 IN YOUR HERITAGE THAT YOU HAVE
- 15:28 AS A SON OF ABRAHAM.
- 15:29 AND IT ALSO WILL HELP US
- 15:31 TO CONTINUE TO BRING YOU
- 15:32 THESE PROGRAMS THAT
- 15:34 WE LOVE TO BRING YOU FROM ISRAEL
- 15:36 AND FROM THE HEART OF GOD.
- 15:38 Myles: YES, SO LET'S GO BACK
- 15:40 TO ZOLA ON LOCATION
- 15:41 AT THE WESTERN WALL.
- 15:44 Danny: AT FIRST, WHAT WE SEE
- 15:45 HERE IS THE WESTERN WALL
- 15:47 TO OUR RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
- 15:48 THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LAST POINT
- 15:50 IN IT, AND IT IS ALL CARVED IN
- 15:52 THE ROCK BECAUSE HEROD THE GREAT
- 15:55 REALLY DESTROYED EVERYTHING
- 15:57 WHICH WAS BEFORE HIM.
- 15:59 AND WHAT HE DID WAS TO PUT HERE,
- 16:03 DOWN BELOW, IT IS NATURAL ROCK,
- 16:05 AND TO BRING ONE COURSE
- 16:07 OF STONES, WHICH WAS HERE.
- 16:08 Zola: OH, THIS IS ON TOP
- 16:09 OF THE BEDROCK.
- 16:10 Danny: YES, THAT'S BEDROCK.
- 16:11 DOWN BELOW, THIS IS BEDROCK
- 16:13 AND ABOVE IT, THE BUILDERS.
- 16:14 BUT THE MOST EXCITING OF ALL
- 16:16 THE STONES IN THE WESTERN WALL
- 16:18 IS THE ONE WHICH YOU SEE HERE,
- 16:19 BECAUSE HERE YOU CAN SEE
- 16:20 HOW HE BROUGHT IT
- 16:21 FROM THE QUARRY.
- 16:23 SEE...COMPLETELY ROUGH.
- 16:24 HERE YOU SEE THE CONCENTRIC
- 16:25 MOVEMENTS OF THE CHISELS,
- 16:27 WHERE THEY SMOOTH IT,
- 16:28 AND HERE IT IS,
- 16:29 ALREADY FINISHED.
- 16:30 IT IS THE ONLY STONE
- 16:31 ALONG THE ENTIRE STORY
- 16:33 WHERE YOU CAN SEE ON ONE STONE,
- 16:35 YOU CAN SEE THIS...
- 16:36 YOU CAN SEE THIS...
- 16:37 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT.
- 16:38 Zola: OH YES.
- 16:39 Danny: SO IT SHOWS US THAT,
- 16:40 ACTUALLY, ALL THE STONES
- 16:41 WERE HEWN WHEN THEY WERE
- 16:43 ALREADY INSTALLED IN PLACE.
- 16:44 Zola: I SEE.
- 16:45 Danny: YOU UNDERSTAND IT..
- 16:46 HE BROUGHT IT,
- 16:47 ROUGHLY HE WORKED ON IT ON SITE
- 16:50 AND HERE IT IS,
- 16:51 THE FINAL SHAPE OF IT.
- 16:52 YOU SEE, HERE'S ANOTHER STONE
- 16:54 LIKE THAT.
- 16:55 THIS ONE IS, AGAIN,
- 16:56 YOU SEE, IT IS ALREADY SMOOTH
- 16:57 AND BEAUTIFUL, BUT HERE,
- 16:58 YOU CAN SEE IT IS VERY ROUGH.
- 16:59 Zola: OH, YES.
- 17:00 Danny: NOW, WE ARE NOW--
- 17:01 THIS IS THE END
- 17:02 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
- 17:03 THE WESTERN WALL ENDS HERE
- 17:04 LIKE THAT...AND AS WE GO,
- 17:06 THIS LITTLE FLIGHT OF STEPS,
- 17:07 WE'LL FIND OURSELVES
- 17:08 IN THE MACCABEAN TUNNEL.
- 17:10 Zola: AT THIS POINT,
- 17:11 WE LEFT A SEGMENT OF TUNNEL
- 17:13 DUG BY ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND
- 17:15 WE ENTERED THE HASMONEAN TUNNEL.
- 17:17 ORIGINALLY AN AQUEDUCT, IT WAS
- 17:19 CONSTRUCTED OVER 2,000 YEARS AGO
- 17:21 TO SUPPLY WATER TO THE
- 17:22 MACCABEAN PALACE FURTHER SOUTH.
- 17:25 THE WINDING CHANNEL WALLS
- 17:26 STRETCH HIGHER AND HIGHER,
- 17:28 TOWARD THE OLD CITY ABOVE.
- 17:29 Danny: YOU SEE HOW IT'S GOING
- 17:30 HIGHER AND HIGHER?
- 17:31 Zola: YES.
- 17:32 Danny: THE REASON IS THAT
- 17:33 ACTUALLY THEY NEVER BORED IT
- 17:34 AS A TUNNEL.
- 17:36 THEY EXCAVATED IT FROM TOP
- 17:38 AND THEN THEY COVERED IT
- 17:39 WITH SLABS
- 17:40 AND THEN IT BECAME A TUNNEL.
- 17:41 BUT THE THING IS, THE HILL IS
- 17:44 HIGHER THE FURTHER NORTH WE GO
- 17:46 AND IF WE GO NORTHWARDS...
- 17:47 LOOK AT THAT...
- 17:48 AT REALLY LOOKS LIKE A CANYON
- 17:50 IN THE DESERT.
- 17:51 NOW THE THING IS, THAT IT WAS
- 17:52 MADE BY THE MACCABEES IN ORDER
- 17:54 TO SUPPLY WATER TO THEIR PALACE.
- 17:57 TILL THE DISCOVERY OF
- 17:58 THIS TUNNEL WHICH, BY THE WAY,
- 18:00 WAS DISCOVERED ALREADY
- 18:01 IN THE 19th CENTURY,
- 18:03 BUT THE EXPLORERS THERE DIDN'T
- 18:04 UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS.
- 18:06 SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY DIDN'T
- 18:09 KNOW TO WHOM TO ATTRIBUTE IT.
- 18:11 NOW WE KNOW VERY WELL
- 18:12 THAT IT IS PRE-HERODIAN, BECAUSE
- 18:14 HEROD THE GREAT BUILT A DAM HERE
- 18:17 IN ORDER TO STOP THE WATER
- 18:19 WHICH CAME ALONG THIS AQUEDUCT;
- 18:22 ACTUALLY TO STOP IT
- 18:24 FROM GOING INTO THE WESTERN WALL
- 18:25 AND TO FLOOD HIS WALKS THERE.
- 18:28 BUT THE FANTASTIC THING IS THAT
- 18:29 WHEN WE GO UP TO THE TOP
- 18:31 AND YOU SEE THE CANYON,
- 18:32 THE VIEW OVER THE CANYON
- 18:33 IS REALLY MARVELOUS.
- 18:35 AND IF YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE
- 18:36 UNDER THE OLD CITY
- 18:38 IT IS REALLY FASCINATING.
- 18:39 Zola: OH, YES.
- 18:41 Danny: WE MADE A GLASS BRIDGE
- 18:42 SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WATER
- 18:44 STILL FLOWS UNDERNEATH.
- 18:45 Zola: OH, YES.
- 18:46 Danny: YOU CAN SEE IT
- 18:47 DOWN THERE.
- 18:48 YOU SEE, THE CEILING
- 18:49 IS REFLECTED IN THE WATER.
- 18:51 Zola: OH, YES.
- 18:52 Danny: AND THIS IS REALLY
- 18:53 A UNIQUE THING ALTOGETHER TO SEE
- 18:55 THE ENTIRE HEIGHT OF THE TUNNELS
- 18:57 FROM BOTTOM TO TOP.
- 18:59 Zola: WE CONTINUED OUR ASCENT TO
- 19:01 THE END OF THE HASMONEAN SEGMENT
- 19:02 OF THE TUNNEL, ENTERING THE
- 19:03 FINAL PART OF THE TUNNEL SYSTEM.
- 19:05 EXCAVATION COMPLETED HERE
- 19:07 IN 1993 STOPPED 12 INCHES SHORT
- 19:10 OF BREAKING THROUGH
- 19:11 ONTO THE VIA DOLOROSA,
- 19:13 SHOWN HERE ON THE MAP,
- 19:14 TRADITION HOLDS
- 19:16 CHRIST WALKED THIS STREET
- 19:17 TO HIS CRUCIFIXION.
- 19:19 FINALLY IN 1996,
- 19:21 NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN ISLAMIC
- 19:23 AND JEWISH AUTHORITIES RESULTED
- 19:24 IN THE APPROVAL AND CREATION
- 19:26 OF THE TUNNEL EXIT.
- 19:28 AT FIRST ALL WAS CALM, HOWEVER,
- 19:30 PALESTINIAN LEADER YASSER ARAFAT
- 19:32 MADE MISLEADING STATEMENTS
- 19:33 REGARDING THE TUNNEL LOCATION
- 19:35 WHICH INCITED RIOTS, KILLING 70
- 19:38 AND INJURING HUNDREDS.
- 19:39 SPEAKING NEAR THE EXIT, DANNY
- 19:41 EXPLAINS ARAFAT'S DECEPTION.
- 19:43 Danny: HE DIFFUSED,
- 19:45 IN THE INTERNET AND EVERYWHERE,
- 19:47 A MAP OF OUR TUNNELS AS IF
- 19:48 THEY GO UNDER THE TWO MOSQUES
- 19:50 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 19:53 WE PUBLISHED A MAP OF THE WALK,
- 19:54 AS WE DO IN EVERY EXCAVATION.
- 19:56 AND HE TOOK THE SAME MAP
- 19:57 WHICH WAS PUBLISHED,
- 19:59 AND MOVED IT, THE TUNNEL.
- 20:00 HE PUT ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT
- 20:03 BETWEEN THE TWO MOSQUES.
- 20:04 THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
- 20:05 AND EVERYONE BELIEVED--
- 20:07 NO ONE COULD BELIEVE THAT
- 20:08 THE LEADER OF LET'S SAY A NATION
- 20:10 WITH NATIONAL ASPIRATIONS
- 20:11 CAN LIE TO THE WORLD
- 20:12 IN SUCH A MANNER.
- 20:14 AND THIS IS ACTUALLY
- 20:15 WHAT HE DID.
- 20:16 David Dolan: THIS POLITICALLY
- 20:17 THREATENS...
- 20:18 Zola: DAVID DOLAN,
- 20:19 VETERAN JOURNALIST AND RESIDENT
- 20:20 OF JERUSALEM SPOKE WITH
- 20:21 DR. McCALL ABOUT THE EVENTS.
- 20:23 Tom McCALL: WHY DO WE GET
- 20:24 THIS KIND OF WRONG INFORMATION
- 20:27 OR MISINFORMATION
- 20:28 OR DISINFORMATION?
- 20:30 David: THE PALESTINIANS
- 20:31 PRESENTED IT AS A TUNNEL
- 20:33 THAT AFFECTED THE MOSQUE
- 20:35 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 20:36 SO THEY LEFT THE IMPRESSION THAT
- 20:39 IT DID GO ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH
- 20:40 THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND THE MEDIA
- 20:42 JUST REPORTED THAT WITHOUT
- 20:44 ACTUALLY CHECKING ON THE FACTS,
- 20:46 GOING DOWN THERE
- 20:48 AND LOOKING AT IT OR WHATEVER.
- 20:49 AND IT TOOK A FEW DAYS
- 20:51 FOR IT TO BE CLARIFIED EVEN HERE
- 20:53 LOCALLY, HERE IN THE MEDIA, THAT
- 20:55 THIS TUNNEL RUNS ON THE OUTSIDE
- 20:57 OF THE WESTERN WALL; THAT
- 20:59 IT'S AN ANCIENT TUNNEL, NOTHING
- 21:01 THAT HAS JUST BEEN BUILT.
- 21:02 IT WAS AN ANCIENT WATER TUNNEL
- 21:04 AT THE HASMONEAN PERIOD
- 21:05 AND THEREFORE HAS NOTHING
- 21:06 TO DO WITH THE MOSQUE ITSELF.
- 21:08 BUT, AGAIN, IT'S PRECISELY
- 21:10 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT ITSELF
- 21:12 THAT THE ISLAMIC CLAIM TO BE
- 21:15 THE FINAL REVELATION OF TRUTH,
- 21:16 THE FINAL FAITH,
- 21:18 THE SUPREME FAITH WAS,
- 21:20 THEY BELIEVED, CONCRETELY
- 21:22 DEMONSTRATED BY THEM
- 21:23 CAPTURING THE TEMPLE MOUNT FROM,
- 21:25 AT THAT TIME IN 638,
- 21:27 BYZANTINE CHRISTIANS.
- 21:29 Zola: AND YET THESE TUNNELS THAT
- 21:30 YOU HAVE EXCAVATED SHOW THAT YOU
- 21:33 WERE HERE MANY CENTURIES BEFORE
- 21:35 THE BIRTH OF MOHAMMAD EVEN.
- 21:37 Danny: DEFINITELY.
- 21:38 IT WAS THE JEWS WHO BROUGHT
- 21:40 THE ARABS HERE DURING THE
- 21:41 CREATION OF THE ISLAMIC EMPIRE
- 21:44 IN THE 7th CENTURY
- 21:45 BECAUSE WHEN THEY CAME HERE,
- 21:47 THEY DIDN'T KNOW
- 21:48 WHAT THEY ARE COMING TO.
- 21:49 IT WAS A CONVERTED JEW,
- 21:50 A MAN CALLED KA'AB AL-AHBAR WHO
- 21:52 BROUGHT THEM AND SHOWED THEM THE
- 21:54 HOLINESS OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 21:56 AND THEY WERE DELIBERATING.
- 21:57 AND WE'VE GOT IT
- 21:58 FROM ARAB SOURCES.
- 21:59 THEY WERE DELIBERATING WHERE
- 22:00 TO BUILD THE MOSQUE BECAUSE THEY
- 22:02 HAD NO--THERE WAS NO IMPORTANCE
- 22:04 WHATSOEVER TO JERUSALEM
- 22:05 IN THEIR EYES.
- 22:07 Tom: AND ARCHAEOLOGY IS AT THE
- 22:08 HEART OF THIS WHOLE CONTROVERSY
- 22:11 OVER WHO OWNS WHAT
- 22:13 AND WHO HAS THE MOST CLAIM
- 22:16 TO THESE PROPERTIES.
- 22:19 IT'S AN AMAZING THING THAT
- 22:20 ARCHAEOLOGY WOULD HAVE SUCH AN
- 22:22 IMPACT ON INTERNATIONAL HISTORY.
- 22:26 David: WELL, IT IS, AND IT'S
- 22:27 A FRUSTRATING THING FOR LOCAL
- 22:29 ARCHAEOLOGISTS WHO JUST WANT
- 22:31 TO GO OUT AND DO THEIR JOB.
- 22:33 I'M TALKING ABOUT ISRAELIS
- 22:34 AND ARABS AND INTERNATIONAL
- 22:35 ARCHAEOLOGISTS WHO JUST WANT TO
- 22:36 GO AND SEARCH FOR ANCIENT THINGS
- 22:38 AND THEY KEEP FINDING THAT
- 22:39 WHATEVER THEY FIND AFFECTS
- 22:41 TODAY'S POLITICAL STRUGGLE
- 22:44 AND THAT THEY'RE PULLED THIS WAY
- 22:45 AND THEY'RE PULLED THAT WAY.
- 22:46 Zola: EVEN WITH THE POLITICAL
- 22:47 PRESSURES, DANNY, KNOWING
- 22:49 THE IMPORTANCE OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL
- 22:50 FINDINGS FOR ALL FAITHS,
- 22:52 CONTINUES HIS WORK
- 22:53 AT THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 22:55 Danny: THE TUNNEL,
- 22:56 THE IDEA OF THE TUNNEL
- 22:57 IS TO EXPOSE TO THE JEWISH WORLD
- 22:58 THE SANCTITY
- 23:00 OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
- 23:01 MOREOVER, IN THIS RESPECT,
- 23:03 SINCE IT REFERS TO
- 23:05 THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD,
- 23:06 IT IS ALSO OF GREAT IMPORTANCE
- 23:08 TO THE CHRISTIAN WORLD.
- 23:10 TO THE MUSLIMS, OUR TUNNEL
- 23:11 IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, FROM
- 23:12 THE SCIENTIFIC POINT OF VIEW
- 23:15 WE HAVE REVEALED HERE
- 23:16 LAYERS OF ISLAMIC DEVELOPMENT,
- 23:19 URBAN DEVELOPMENT OF JERUSALEM
- 23:21 OF WHICH THEY NEVER KNEW BEFORE.
- 23:23 SO, ALL TOGETHER, INSTEAD OF,
- 23:25 I WILL SAY, ENCOURAGING,
- 23:27 THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A SITE
- 23:29 WHICH EVERYONE...
- 23:30 JEWS...CHRISTIANS...AND MUSLIMS
- 23:32 CAN FIND EACH OF THEM SOMETHING
- 23:34 WHICH WILL WARM HIS POINT...
- 23:36 I MEAN, WILL WARM HIS HEART
- 23:38 WITH A CERTAIN POINT
- 23:39 OF HIS LEGACY,
- 23:41 THEY MADE A WHOLE MESS OF IT.
- 23:42 AND THIS IS, REALLY...
- 23:44 I'M AFRAID IT IS TYPICAL THING.
- 23:46 AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO FURIOUS,
- 23:47 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WERE
- 23:48 AGREEMENTS AND UNDERSTANDINGS
- 23:51 WHICH THE WORLD DENIED.
- 23:52 AND, UNFORTUNATELY, THE MEDIA
- 23:53 TOOK PART IN THIS DENIAL.
- 23:56 Tom: WHAT DID YOU THINK
- 23:58 OF THE EARLY REPORTING THAT CAME
- 23:59 OUT ABOUT THE TUNNEL EPISODE?
- 24:03 Danny: WELL, TOM,
- 24:04 AS A JOURNALIST WHO'S LIVED HERE
- 24:05 AND REPORTED FROM HERE
- 24:07 FOR 16 YEARS I'VE GOT TO SAY
- 24:08 I WAS A BIT DISAPPOINTED IN IT.
- 24:11 JOURNALISTS KNOW THAT ALL OF
- 24:13 THESE ISSUES ARE VERY POLITICAL
- 24:16 AND EMOTIONAL, ETC.
- 24:17 THEY KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE GET
- 24:19 A SLANTED VERSION OF WHAT'S
- 24:21 GOING ON AND THERE WAS I THINK
- 24:23 A VERY LIMITED ATTEMPT
- 24:25 TO CHECK THE FACTS.
- 24:28 WE HAD, FOR INSTANCE,
- 24:29 ARCHAEOLOGIST DANNY BAHAT
- 24:31 WHO'S SO INVOLVED IN THIS
- 24:32 AND YET HE WASN'T CONSULTED
- 24:35 BY THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA.
- 24:37 THE BBC, CNN AND OTHERS
- 24:40 REPEATED THE REPORT THAT THE
- 24:42 ISRAELIS HAVE OPENED A TUNNEL.
- 24:44 WELL, OF COURSE, IT WAS JUST
- 24:45 AN EXIT TO THE TUNNEL,
- 24:47 A DOOR THAT HAD BEEN PUT IN.
- 24:49 SO THAT WAS VERY,
- 24:50 VERY MISLEADING.
- 24:51 AND THEY DIDN'T GO DOWN
- 24:53 AND LOOK AT THE THING TOO.
- 24:54 I WAS WAITING FOR ONE
- 24:55 OF THE INTERNATIONAL NETWORKS
- 24:57 TO HAVE A CAMERA CREW
- 24:58 GO THROUGH IT AND SAY,
- 24:59 "THIS IS WHERE IT BEGINS,
- 25:00 THIS IS WHERE IT ENDS,
- 25:01 THIS IS WHERE IT IS
- 25:02 IN RELATION TO THE MOSQUE, ETC."
- 25:04 AND WE DIDN'T SEE THAT AT ALL.
- 25:06 SO IT WAS VERY SHALLOW REPORTING
- 25:08 I THOUGHT.
- 25:09 Zola: WHAT IF THE MUSLIMS
- 25:10 AND JEWS REALLY WORKED TOGETHER?
- 25:13 David: I WISH IT WERE.
- 25:14 I TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE
- 25:15 NOW IS--AND I'M, OF COURSE,
- 25:17 YOU CAN IMAGINE I WANT
- 25:18 THIS PEACE AND EVERYTHING...
- 25:19 EVEN WITH EGYPT, WITH WHICH
- 25:20 WE SIGNED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO,
- 25:22 A PEACE AGREEMENT;
- 25:23 YOU DON'T SEE ANY
- 25:25 SCIENTIFIC COLLABORATION,
- 25:26 IN NO WAY, IN ARCHAEOLOGY.
- 25:28 WITH JORDAN,
- 25:29 I HOPE IT WILL WORK BETTER.
- 25:31 TO THE PRESENT THERE IS NOTHING.
- 25:32 I WONDER IF THE ARABS WILL DO IT
- 25:35 AT ALL, ESPECIALLY ON JERUSALEM.
- 25:38 I WONDER.
- 25:39 I WOULD LIKE IT VERY MUCH.
- 25:40 Zola: YOU WOULD HOPE--
- 25:41 Danny: YES, BUT REMEMBER THAT
- 25:43 STILL, THE FEELING THAT WE ARE
- 25:45 PART OF THE MIDDLE EAST HAS
- 25:47 NOT YET SEEPED TO THEIR MIND.
- 25:49 THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM STARTS
- 25:51 AND THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS.
- 25:54 ♪ ♪
- 26:24 Myles: WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE
- 26:25 EXPERTS LIKE DAVID DOLAN AND
- 26:26 DANNY BAHAT TO EXPLAIN TO US THE
- 26:28 REALITY ON THE GROUND IN ISRAEL.
- 26:30 SINCE THE TIME OF THESE RIOTS,
- 26:33 WHAT'S COME TO LIGHT
- 26:34 IS THAT IT CAME TO PASS
- 26:35 DURING BIBI NETANYAHU'S
- 26:37 FIRST TERM, WHEN HE WAS HAVING
- 26:39 THE HISTORIC RECONCILIATION
- 26:41 MEETING WITH HELMUT KOHL,
- 26:42 THE CHANCELLOR OF GERMANY.
- 26:44 DURING THAT TIME, THESE RIOTS
- 26:45 STARTED AT THE WESTERN WALL
- 26:47 AND NETANYAHU SAID TO ARAFAT,
- 26:49 "I WILL HAVE TANKS IN RAMALLAH
- 26:51 IN 15 MINUTES,
- 26:52 IF YOU DO NOT STOP THE RIOTS."
- 26:53 THANKFULLY,
- 26:54 ARAFAT STOPPED THE RIOTS.
- 26:56 UNFORTUNATELY,
- 26:57 70 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES.
- 26:59 Katharine: THANKFULLY,
- 27:00 FOR BOTH THE JEWS AND THE ARABS,
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