
“The Tunnel”
Zola takes a tour through the tunnel under the western edge of the Temple Mount. From Jerusalem, we get a journalist’s perspective of the Palestinian uproar that occurred when the tunnel was opened to the public in September 1996.
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Caption transcript for The Stones Cry Out (2012): “The Tunnel” (1/12)
- 00:02 (♪ "The Stones Cry Out" ♪)
- 00:08 ♪ ♪
- 00:24 Male Singer: ♪ IF NO ONE STANDS TO SPEAK, ♪
- 00:29 ♪ IF NO ONE PRAYS, ♪
- 00:35 ♪ THESE VERY STONES CRY OUT ♪
- 00:41 ♪ "I AM." ♪♪
- 00:46 Myles: SHALOM AND WELCOME
- 00:47 TO AN UPDATED SERIES,
- 00:49 "THE STONES CRY OUT."
- 00:50 THIS IS A WORK THAT ZOLA AND
- 00:52 TOM McCALL DID BACK IN THE '90s,
- 00:54 UNEARTHING THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL
- 00:56 EVIDENCE OF BIBLICAL TRUTH.
- 00:58 AND WE'RE THRILLED
- 00:59 TO BRING THIS TO YOU TODAY.
- 01:00 YOU KNOW, THIS VERY TITLE
- 01:02 IS BASED ON THE VERSE
- 01:03 FROM LUKE 19:40 WHERE JESUS SAID
- 01:06 THAT IF THE DISCIPLES
- 01:07 DIDN'T PRAISE HIM,
- 01:08 THE VERY STONES WOULD CRY OUT.
- 01:10 AND THEY ARE CRYING OUT
- 01:11 FROM ISRAEL, AREN'T THEY?
- 01:13 Katharine: CRYING OUT TODAY.
- 01:14 EACH AND EVERY DAY, THERE ARE
- 01:15 NEW ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIGS THAT ARE
- 01:17 BEING DISCOVERED THAT ARE
- 01:18 UNEARTHING HOW REAL THE BIBLE IS
- 01:22 AND HOW MUCH WE CAN KNOW.
- 01:24 OUR CAMERA CREW GOES FROM DAN
- 01:26 TO THE DEAD SEA,
- 01:27 FROM THE MEDITERRANEAN TO PETRA,
- 01:30 SHOWING AND TESTIFYING
- 01:32 OF THESE WONDERFUL STORIES.
- 01:34 Myles: IT'S REALLY AMAZING.
- 01:35 THERE'S SUCH CONTROVERSY TODAY.
- 01:37 THERE ARE SO MANY POLITICAL
- 01:38 VIEWS TRYING TO INTERFERE WITH
- 01:40 THE SCIENCE OF ARCHAEOLOGY
- 01:42 AND THE WAY THAT UNEARTHS
- 01:44 THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE.
- 01:45 WELL, WE GET A CHANCE
- 01:46 IN THIS SERIES TO SHOW YOU HOW
- 01:48 THE STONES ARE CRYING OUT
- 01:50 AND HOW THE VERY EARTH
- 01:51 IS VERIFYING
- 01:52 THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE.
- 01:53 IN THIS FIRST SEGMENT, ZOLA'S
- 01:56 GOING TO SPEAK TO DANNY BAHAT.
- 01:57 AND TOM McCALL
- 01:58 WILL SPEAK WITH DAVID DOLAN.
- 02:00 AND DANNY BAHAT IS GOING
- 02:01 TO SPEAK ABOUT THE UNEARTHING
- 02:02 OF THE HASMONIAN TUNNELS
- 02:04 AND THE TIME OF THE MACCABEES
- 02:06 AND HOW WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT
- 02:07 OUT, ARAFAT, BACK IN THE DAY,
- 02:10 HE SAID THAT IT WAS INTERFERING
- 02:12 WITH THE AL-AQSA MOSQUE
- 02:13 AND IT CAUSED RIOTS
- 02:14 IN WHICH 70 PEOPLE WERE KILLED.
- 02:16 Katharine: IT'S SUCH A SHAME
- 02:17 THAT OUR NEWS REPORTERS
- 02:20 DIDN'T EVEN GO DOWN AND SEE
- 02:22 WHAT WAS BEING PROMOTED AS
- 02:25 SOMETHING THAT WAS INTERFERING
- 02:27 WITH MUSLIM HOLY SITES.
- 02:29 Myles: EXACTLY
- 02:30 Katharine: THIS IS WHY WE NEED
- 02:31 YOUR GIFTS OF FUNDS SO MUCH
- 02:33 DURING THIS TIME,
- 02:34 SO WE COULD ACCURATELY SHOW YOU
- 02:35 WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE LAND.
- 02:37 WE TAKE YOU TO ISRAEL AND
- 02:39 ACCURATELY SHOW YOU WHAT'S GOING
- 02:41 ON THROUGH THE SCRIPTURE'S EYE.
- 02:43 Myles: EXACTLY
- 02:44 AND SO NOW LET'S GO TO ZOLA
- 02:45 ON LOCATION WITH DANNY BAHAT.
- 02:49 Danny: THAT'S A VIEW
- 02:50 OF THE OLD CITY FROM THE NORTH.
- 02:52 YOU CAN SEE THE PRAYING PLAZA,
- 02:53 WHICH IS HERE.
- 02:54 OUR TUNNELS GO ALL THE WAY ALONG
- 02:56 THE WESTERN WALL AND THIS IS
- 02:58 THE POINT WHERE WE GO INTO
- 03:00 THE MACCABEAN AQUEDUCT WHICH
- 03:02 GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HERE,
- 03:04 PAINTED IN BLUE.
- 03:05 THE LAST PART IS THE PART
- 03:07 THAT THE OFFICIAL TUNNEL
- 03:08 WAS MADE TO GO OUT HERE.
- 03:09 WE MADE THIS PLAN
- 03:11 IN ORDER TO SHOW, REALLY,
- 03:12 THAT WE'VE GOT NOTHING TO DO
- 03:14 WITH THE TEMPLE MOUNT PRECINCT.
- 03:15 WE ARE ALL THE WAY OUT
- 03:17 AND YOU SEE WE CAME EVEN FURTHER
- 03:19 FROM THE ABUTTING WALL TUNNEL
- 03:21 WHICH WE HAD BEFORE.
- 03:22 WE WENT ALL THE WAY,
- 03:23 AS FAR AS POSSIBLE,
- 03:25 TO ONE OF THE WIDEST STREETS
- 03:26 IN THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM.
- 03:27 Zola: THE ENTRANCE TO THE TUNNEL
- 03:28 IS HERE ON THE MAP
- 03:30 AND LOCATED ADJACENT
- 03:31 TO THE WESTERN WALL PLAZA.
- 03:33 DANNY AND I BEGAN OUR JOURNEY
- 03:35 AT THIS POINT.
- 03:37 THE LABYRINTH OF NARROW PASSAGES
- 03:39 IS MORE THAN 400 YARDS LONG
- 03:41 AND REVEALS OVER 2,000 YEARS
- 03:43 OF HISTORY.
- 03:44 THE FIRST SEGMENT OF THE TUNNEL
- 03:46 IS AN ARCHED WALKWAY
- 03:47 BUILT BY THE MAMLUKES
- 03:48 SOME 700 YEARS AGO.
- 03:50 ITS PURPOSE IS TO SUPPORT
- 03:52 THE ROADWAY ABOVE.
- 03:54 A FEW HUNDRED FEET FURTHER,
- 03:56 THE PASSAGEWAY OPENS INTO
- 03:57 A SPECTACULAR SUBTERRANEAN ROOM.
- 04:00 THE FINELY FASHIONED STONES
- 04:02 OF THIS HERODIAN STRUCTURE
- 04:04 SPEAK OF A JEWISH LEGACY DATING
- 04:05 BACK TO THE SECOND TEMPLE.
- 04:08 DANNY BAHAT EXPLAINS.
- 04:10 Danny: THIS ROOM, IT DATES FROM
- 04:11 THE TIME OF HEROD THE GREAT.
- 04:13 ACTUALLY, IT IS
- 04:15 THE ONLY BUILDING, HITHERTO,
- 04:17 FOUND IN THE COUNTRY,
- 04:19 ALL BUILT OF ASHLA, WHICH MEANS
- 04:21 SQUARE-CAST STONES IN SUCH
- 04:23 A MANNER IN THE MINOR BUILDING,
- 04:25 BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE MASONRY,
- 04:28 BEAUTIFUL ASHLA MASONRY
- 04:29 ON THE WESTERN WALL IN THE CAVE
- 04:31 OF THE PATRIARCHS AT HEBRON.
- 04:33 BUT THERE'S A KIND OF A ROOM.
- 04:34 THIS IS THE FIRST ONE HITHERTO
- 04:36 DISCOVERED IN SUCH A SHAPE.
- 04:38 WHAT IS IT, REALLY, FROM HEROD'S
- 04:39 TIME, I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
- 04:42 THERE ARE MANY SUGGESTIONS LIKE
- 04:43 THE CHAMBER OF ASHLA, WHICH WAS
- 04:45 A SUPREME COURT OF APPEAL
- 04:47 DURING THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD,
- 04:48 BUT I DON'T KNOW.
- 04:49 Zola: YES
- 04:50 Danny: BUT, OTHERWISE,
- 04:51 IT MUST HAVE BEEN A BUILDING
- 04:52 OF GREAT IMPORTANCE.
- 04:53 THE PROBLEM IS THAT ITS SHAPE
- 04:55 WAS COMPLETELY DISTORTED
- 04:57 DURING THE EARLY ARAB PERIOD
- 04:59 WHEN IT WAS USED
- 05:00 AS A KIND OF A WORKSHOP,
- 05:01 WHERE THEY SMELTED METAL,
- 05:03 BECAUSE WHEN WE EXCAVATED HERE,
- 05:04 WE FOUND MANY SLAGS
- 05:07 AND OTHER FURNACES
- 05:08 AND ALL KIND OF THINGS.
- 05:10 WE, OF COURSE, CLEANED IT,
- 05:11 IN ORDER TO BRING IT
- 05:12 TO THE SHAPE AS IT WAS,
- 05:13 MORE OR LESS, AS IT WAS DURING
- 05:15 THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD...
- 05:16 LET'S SAY THE TIME OF CHRIST.
- 05:18 NOW, ALL TOGETHER,
- 05:19 WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY,
- 05:20 THAT WALKING ALL THE WAY HERE,
- 05:22 WE WALKED UNDER DOMES AND VAULTS
- 05:25 WHICH DATE FROM
- 05:26 THE LATE MEDIEVAL, NAMELY FROM
- 05:28 WHAT WE CALL THE MAMLUKE PERIOD,
- 05:29 14th, 15th CENTURY,
- 05:31 AND WE CAME DOWN TO THIS PLACE
- 05:33 WHICH IS 1st CENTURY B.C.
- 05:34 Zola: OKAY, AS WE WENT
- 05:36 DOWNSTAIRS, OF COURSE, WE WENT
- 05:38 BACK HUNDREDS OF YEARS...
- 05:39 A THOUSAND YEARS.
- 05:40 Danny: IT'S TRUE.
- 05:41 THAT'S THE IDEA BECAUSE,
- 05:42 YOU SEE, THE SYSTEM OF TUNNELS
- 05:46 WHERE WE ARE NOW,
- 05:47 WHICH STARTED TO BE AND WHICH
- 05:49 THEY STARTED TO DIG IN 1968,
- 05:52 FOLLOWING THE SIX DAY WAR,
- 05:54 THIS SYSTEM OF TUNNELS I THINK
- 05:57 TODAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SITE
- 05:58 IN JERUSALEM.
- 05:59 WHY, BECAUSE THE HISTORY
- 06:01 OF JERUSALEM HAS UNDERGONE MANY
- 06:03 VICISSITUDES DURING HISTORY.
- 06:05 AND IN THESE TUNNELS
- 06:07 EVERY PERIOD OF THOSE PERIODS
- 06:09 IS SOMEHOW REPRESENTED.
- 06:11 IT MAY BE, FOR EXAMPLE,
- 06:12 THE EARLY ARAB, IT APPEARS,
- 06:14 IS PRESENTED BY REPAIRED WALLS
- 06:16 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
- 06:17 THE MAMLUKE,
- 06:18 THEY COVERED THE WESTERN WALL
- 06:20 IN ORDER TO LIFT
- 06:22 OR, ACTUALLY, TO, YES, TO RAISE
- 06:25 THE LEVEL OF THE OLD CITY
- 06:26 TO THE PRESENT LEVEL
- 06:28 BECAUSE OF VARIOUS OTHER REASONS
- 06:30 TO WHICH WE WILL REFER LATER.
- 06:31 AND ALL TOGETHER EVERY PERIOD
- 06:33 IS REPRESENTED SOMEHOW.
- 06:35 THIS ROOM IS ACTUALLY THE ACME
- 06:38 OF THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD
- 06:40 IF WE DON'T SPEAK ABOUT
- 06:41 THE WESTERN WALL,
- 06:42 BECAUSE THE WESTERN WALL,
- 06:43 OF COURSE, IS THE REASON
- 06:44 FOR THE WHOLE THING.
- 06:45 Zola: NOW, THIS, RUNNING
- 06:47 NEARBY HERE, ARE TWO TUNNELS.
- 06:50 THE ONE I UNDERSTOOD
- 06:51 THE ARCHAEOLOGIST BUILT IN ORDER
- 06:52 TO STUDY ALONG THE WESTERN WALL.
- 06:55 THE OTHER IS THE ONE
- 06:56 THAT WAS IN THE NEWS RECENTLY.
- 06:57 Danny: YES, WE HAVE EXCAVATED
- 06:59 TWO OF THEM.
- 07:00 ACTUALLY, THE FIRST ONE,
- 07:02 AS YOU SAID,
- 07:03 IS AN ARTIFICIAL TUNNEL BORED
- 07:05 BY ARCHAEOLOGISTS SINCE 1968
- 07:08 IN ORDER TO EXPOSE
- 07:09 THE WESTERN WALL.
- 07:11 WE WENT ALONG ALL KINDS
- 07:12 OF SYSTEMS OF RETAINING WALLS,
- 07:14 VAULTS, ARCHES, ALL KIND OF
- 07:16 THINGS WHICH ARE STILL TO BE
- 07:18 ANALYZED BUT IN PRINCIPLE
- 07:19 WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE.
- 07:21 AT THE END OF IT, WE CAME
- 07:24 INTO A TUNNEL WHICH WAS BOUGHT
- 07:26 BY THE MACCABEES
- 07:27 NAMELY IN THE 2nd CENTURY B.C.
- 07:30 IT IS CALLED EITHER MACCABEES OR
- 07:32 HASMONEANS, WHICH IS SYNONYMS.
- 07:34 Zola: ABOUT 200 YEARS
- 07:35 BEFORE CHRIST.
- 07:36 Danny: 200 YEARS BEFORE CHRIST.
- 07:38 NOW THE THING IS THAT THIS IS
- 07:40 SOMETHING OF EXTREME IMPORTANCE,
- 07:43 NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTY
- 07:44 OF THE SITE,
- 07:45 WHICH WE'LL SEE LATER.
- 07:46 NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF
- 07:47 THE IMPRESSION ONE GETS WHEN
- 07:48 HE WALKS THERE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE
- 07:51 IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT REMAINS
- 07:52 EVER FOUND IN THIS COUNTRY
- 07:54 BEFORE, PERTAINING TO
- 07:56 THE MACCABEAN PERIOD.
- 07:58 THIS IS REALLY UNIQUE.
- 08:00 ALSO, BECAUSE OF THAT,
- 08:01 WE HAVE EXPOSED THE REMAINS
- 08:03 WHICH ARE VERY SCANT,
- 08:05 BUT STILL ARE QUITE SIGNIFICANT
- 08:06 OF THE PALACE OF THE MACCABEES,
- 08:09 WHICH WAS TO THE NORTH OF
- 08:10 THE TEMPLE MOUNT OF THAT TIME,
- 08:12 COMPLETELY DESTROYED AND
- 08:13 SHAVED AWAY BY HEROD THE GREAT,
- 08:16 WHEN HE EXTENDED
- 08:17 THE TEMPLE MOUNT
- 08:18 AND BUILT ANTONIA FORTRESS,
- 08:19 THE FAMOUS FORTRESS WHICH PLAYED
- 08:21 SUCH AN IMPORTANT ROLE
- 08:22 IN EARLY CHRISTIANITY.
- 08:24 Zola: OKAY, THE MACCABEES
- 08:25 WERE A FAMILY THAT EXISTED
- 08:29 AND REVOLTED AGAINST
- 08:30 THE SYRO-PHOENICIANS
- 08:32 WHO WERE CONTROLLING THE LAND
- 08:34 AGAINST ANTIOCHUS, IF I'M RIGHT,
- 08:36 AND THEY HAD A PALACE HERE
- 08:39 AS YOU'RE EXPLAINING.
- 08:40 Danny: NOW THAT FAMILY IT WAS...
- 08:42 CAME ACTUALLY, IT WAS
- 08:43 THE RULER OF AUTOCRACY
- 08:45 IN OUR COUNTRY IN JUDAH.
- 08:47 AND IN THE 2nd CENTURY WHEN
- 08:49 THERE WERE TWO TRENDS AMONGST
- 08:50 THE JEWS LIVING IN THE COUNTRY
- 08:52 WHO WERE UNDER THE YOKE
- 08:54 OF THE SELEUCIDS.
- 08:55 THE SELEUCIDS WERE THE HEIRS
- 08:56 OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT.
- 08:58 NOW THERE WERE TWO TENDENCIES
- 09:00 IN THE COUNTRY, TO ACCEPT
- 09:01 THE HELLENISTIC WAY OF LIFE,
- 09:03 OR TO PRESERVE
- 09:05 THE AUTHENTIC JEWISH LIFE.
- 09:06 Zola: OKAY.
- 09:07 Danny: THE FIGHT
- 09:08 ALMOST ENDED WITH ENCOURAGEMENT
- 09:10 OF THE SELEUCIDS,
- 09:11 NAMELY OF THE THOSE, LET'S SAY
- 09:12 GREEK-ORIENTATED RULERS
- 09:15 OF THE COUNTRY TO GO INTO
- 09:17 REALLY GREEK-ORIENTATED WAY
- 09:19 OF LIFE, BUT THERE WAS A KIND OF
- 09:22 A ZEAL AMONGST THE RURAL PEOPLE
- 09:26 TO MAINTAIN JEWISH WAYS OF LIFE.
- 09:28 THAT FAMILY, WHICH COMES FROM
- 09:29 A LITTLE TOWN NAMED MODI'IN,
- 09:31 WHICH IS NOT FAR FROM JERUSALEM.
- 09:32 IT'S ABOUT 30 KILOMETERS
- 09:34 FROM JERUSALEM.
- 09:35 THEY REBELLED AND THEY MANAGED
- 09:37 TO ORGANIZE A WHOLE REVOLT
- 09:39 AGAINST THE SELEUCIDS.
- 09:41 FINALLY JUDAH
- 09:42 RECEIVED ITS INDEPENDENCE,
- 09:44 AND FOR OVER 200 YEARS, JUDAH
- 09:46 WAS AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY.
- 09:48 Zola: AND THAT ESTABLISHED
- 09:49 A HOLIDAY CALLED "HANUKKAH."
- 09:52 Danny: BECAUSE OF THE VICTORY
- 09:53 WE CELEBRATE TO THIS VERY DAY,
- 09:54 THE HANUKKAH HOLY DAY, WHICH IS
- 09:57 ACTUALLY TO COMMEMORATE NOT ONLY
- 09:58 THE VICTORY OF THE SELEUCIDS
- 10:00 AND THEIR CONSTRUCTION
- 10:01 OF THE TEMPLE,
- 10:02 BUT ALSO IT IS IN ORDER
- 10:04 TO COMMEMORATE THE GREAT MIRACLE
- 10:06 WHICH OCCURRED WHEN THE JEWS
- 10:07 MANAGED TO KINDLE
- 10:09 THE CANDELABRUM FOR 8 DAYS,
- 10:12 ALTHOUGH THE EWER,
- 10:13 THE LITTLE PURE OIL THEY FOUND,
- 10:15 COULD SUFFICE FOR ONLY ONE DAY.
- 10:16 AND THIS IS REALLY
- 10:17 THE MAIN REASON
- 10:18 BECAUSE IT WAS A MIRACLE;
- 10:19 IT WAS A DIVINE MIRACLE.
- 10:20 Zola: TO TAKE YOUR ATTENTION
- 10:21 BACK TO THE TUNNEL THEN,
- 10:23 IT IS SORT OF--
- 10:24 WELL, IT'S MORE THAN SORT OF,
- 10:26 IT IS A REAL PROOF
- 10:27 OF THE JEWISH PRIMACY
- 10:29 IN THIS LAND AT THAT TIME.
- 10:30 Danny: DEFINITELY.
- 10:31 WHEN WE WOULD WALK
- 10:32 ALONG THE WESTERN WALL
- 10:34 OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
- 10:35 YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE
- 10:36 ACTUALLY WALKING ALONG
- 10:38 THE MOST MAGNIFICENT STRUCTURE
- 10:40 IN ANTIQUITY.
- 10:41 I ALWAYS SAY,
- 10:42 IN A KIND OF A JOKE,
- 10:44 THAT THE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT SEVEN
- 10:45 MARVELS OF THE ANCIENT WORLD.
- 10:48 I SAY ALWAYS THERE WERE NINE.
- 10:50 THE NINTH BEING, WHY DIDN'T
- 10:51 THE TEMPLE MOUNT IN JERUSALEM
- 10:53 BECOME THE EIGHTH?
- 10:54 BECAUSE, BY FAR MORE,
- 10:56 IT EXCEEDS ANY OTHER STRUCTURE
- 10:58 OF ANTIQUITY.
- 11:00 FOR EXAMPLE,
- 11:01 IF ONE OF THE MARVELS WERE
- 11:03 THE GREAT PYRAMIDS OF EGYPT AND
- 11:04 YOU COULD TAKE THREE AND A HALF
- 11:06 OF THE GREAT PYRAMIDS AND
- 11:07 PUT THEM ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 11:10 NOW, THE THING IS, THAT IT IS
- 11:11 REALLY A UNIQUE STRUCTURE
- 11:13 AND YOU'LL SEE WE ARE WALKING
- 11:14 AND WALKING AND WALKING ALONG
- 11:16 ONE MORE WALL WHICH ORIGINALLY
- 11:18 WAS VERY HIGH, IN SOME PLACES
- 11:20 OVER 200 FEET HIGH.
- 11:22 AND YOU ARE WALKING ALONG IT
- 11:23 WITH BEAUTIFUL MASONRY,
- 11:25 VERY WELL EXECUTED,
- 11:27 SO ALL THAT CAN REALLY GIVE YOU
- 11:28 REALLY THE IMPRESSION
- 11:29 OF HOW BIG IT WAS.
- 11:30 THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY THAT,
- 11:32 UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAME AGAIN
- 11:34 TO THAT PHASE WHEN WE'VE GOT TO
- 11:36 PROVE THAT JERUSALEM IS HOLY
- 11:38 TO US AND THE TEMPLE MOUNT
- 11:39 WAS BUILT BY A JEWISH KING.
- 11:41 AND THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH
- 11:42 I THOUGHT WILL NEVER OCCUR AGAIN
- 11:44 AND INDEED, IT COMES HERE AGAIN
- 11:46 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
- 11:47 WE'VE GOT TO BE A KIND OF--
- 11:49 TO TRY TO EXPLAIN
- 11:50 WHAT WE ARE DOING AND HOW.
- 11:51 THE JEWS WHO PRAY AT
- 11:53 THE WESTERN WALL WANT TO KNOW--
- 11:55 WHICH IS THE HOLIEST PLACE
- 11:56 FOR JUDAISM AT PRESENT--
- 11:58 WANT TO KNOW ALSO TO SAY
- 12:00 THE SECRETS OF THE WESTERN WALL,
- 12:02 WHERE DOES IT START,
- 12:03 WHERE DOES IT END?
- 12:04 AND THIS WAS REALLY THE PURPOSE
- 12:05 OF THE TUNNEL,
- 12:06 OF DIGGING THE TUNNEL,
- 12:07 AND I THINK WE GIVE
- 12:08 ALL THE ANSWERS
- 12:09 IN A MOST SATISFACTORY MANNER.
- 12:10 Zola: YEAH.
- 12:11 SO NOW, WITH THIS TUNNEL DUG,
- 12:13 PEOPLE FROM THE WALL CAN WALK
- 12:15 ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND COME OUT
- 12:17 AT THE VIA DOLOROSA IN
- 12:18 THE MUSLIM QUARTER OF JERUSALEM.
- 12:20 Danny: WHICH MEANS THEY CAN WALK
- 12:21 OVER I WOULD SAY ABOUT 400 YARDS
- 12:25 TO SEE THE GREATNESS
- 12:27 OF THE WESTERN WALL AND TO COME
- 12:28 OUT IN THE VIA DOLOROSA TODAY.
- 12:32 Zola: WHEN WE RETURN, WE'LL
- 12:33 JOURNEY DEEP INSIDE THE TUNNEL,
- 12:35 TO THE VERY BASE
- 12:36 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
- 12:37 AND, LATER ON, WHY DID THE MEDIA
- 12:39 MAKE SO MANY MISTAKES IN
- 12:41 REPORTING THE TUNNEL INCIDENT?
- 12:43 WE'LL GET A JOURNALIST'S
- 12:44 PERSPECTIVE.
- 12:45 David Dolan: AND I THINK THERE
- 12:46 WAS A REAL STEPPING BACK
- 12:48 AND SAYING WE'LL JUST REPORT
- 12:50 WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
- 12:51 WE WON'T ACTUALLY GO IN AND DO
- 12:52 ANY INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING
- 12:53 OURSELVES, THAT'S THE SAFEST WAY
- 12:55 TO APPROACH IT.
- 12:56 ♪ ♪
- 13:05 ♪ ♪
- 13:39 Katharine: ISRAEL...
- 13:40 THE LAND OF COVENANTS...
- 13:41 THE LAND WHERE THE BIBLE
- 13:42 COMES ALIVE AND HIS VOICE
- 13:44 IS EVEN LOUDER THAN EVER.
- 13:45 Myles: I KNOW.
- 13:46 IT'S REALLY TRUE.
- 13:47 THE LAST TIME WE WERE IN ISRAEL
- 13:49 ONE OF OUR PILGRIMS FOUND A COIN
- 13:50 FROM THE MACCABEAN ERA.
- 13:52 THIS VERY SERIES THAT WE'RE
- 13:53 DOING, "THE STONES CRY OUT," IS
- 13:55 BEING VERIFIED EVEN IN OUR DAY,
- 13:57 SO YOU WANT TO COME TO ISRAEL
- 13:58 WITH US.
- 13:59 ANOTHER WAY TO STUDY
- 14:00 YOUR JEWISH-CHRISTIAN ROOTS
- 14:02 IS TO RECEIVE OUR INSTITUTE
- 14:04 OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
- 14:06 IT'S AN AMAZING PACKET
- 14:07 OF TEACHING THAT CAME
- 14:09 FROM JEFF SEIF AND ZOLA LEVITT.
- 14:11 THERE'S ONE CD, THREE CDs,
- 14:12 OR THE ENTIRE SEGMENT OF 12 CDs
- 14:15 THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE.
- 14:16 IN FACT, IT'S BEEN SO--HAD SUCH
- 14:17 AN IMPACT ON SOME OF OUR PEOPLE,
- 14:19 THAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM
- 14:20 ONE OF OUR STUDENTS RIGHT NOW.
- 14:23 Britnni Rummel: I WOULD
- 14:24 RECOMMEND THIS INSTITUTE
- 14:25 BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPED ME
- 14:26 DEEPEN MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
- 14:28 GOING BACK AND LEARNING ABOUT
- 14:29 THE OLD TESTAMENT STUDIES, THERE
- 14:31 ARE A LOT OF CRAZY AND CONFUSING
- 14:33 THINGS IN THERE SOMETIMES, AND
- 14:34 TO REALLY GO BACK AND UNDERSTAND
- 14:36 THE CONTEXT OF IT, REALLY
- 14:38 HELPED ME WITH CHRISTIANITY,
- 14:40 BECAUSE WE HAVE HEBREW ROOTS.
- 14:41 WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN?
- 14:43 IT TEACHES YOU WHAT IT MEANS
- 14:45 AND WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR AND
- 14:47 IT JUST REALLY BRINGS ME BACK
- 14:48 TO YESHUA AND WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE
- 14:51 FOR HIM, AND IT REALLY JUST
- 14:52 STRENGTHENED AND DEEPENED MY
- 14:53 RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD OVERALL.
- 14:56 Myles: I SO APPRECIATE
- 14:57 THAT TESTIMONY; YOU KNOW,
- 14:58 THIS IS NOT JUST A CD COURSE.
- 15:01 THIS IS COMPARABLE
- 15:03 TO A BIBLE COLLEGE COURSE.
- 15:04 THE RESOURCE THIS WEEK
- 15:05 IS THE ENTIRE INSTITUTE
- 15:07 OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
- 15:09 I REMEMBER BRINGING A PASTOR
- 15:10 TO ISRAEL AND HE SAID,
- 15:11 "I WISH I HAD DONE THIS
- 15:12 35 YEARS AGO IN SEMINARY."
- 15:14 THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT
- 15:16 OF A SEMINARY COURSE
- 15:17 IN JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
- 15:19 Katharine: YEAH, THIS COURSE
- 15:21 WILL NOT ONLY INSPIRE YOU
- 15:23 IN THE WORD AND IN
- 15:24 THE JEWISHNESS OF THE GOSPEL,
- 15:26 BUT IT'LL EDUCATE YOU
- 15:27 IN YOUR HERITAGE THAT YOU HAVE
- 15:29 AS A SON OF ABRAHAM.
- 15:30 AND IT ALSO WILL HELP US
- 15:32 TO CONTINUE TO BRING YOU
- 15:33 THESE PROGRAMS THAT
- 15:35 WE LOVE TO BRING YOU FROM ISRAEL
- 15:37 AND FROM THE HEART OF GOD.
- 15:39 Myles: YES, SO LET'S GO BACK
- 15:41 TO ZOLA ON LOCATION
- 15:42 AT THE WESTERN WALL.
- 15:45 Danny: AT FIRST, WHAT WE SEE
- 15:46 HERE IS THE WESTERN WALL
- 15:48 TO OUR RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
- 15:49 THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LAST POINT
- 15:51 IN IT, AND IT IS ALL CARVED IN
- 15:53 THE ROCK BECAUSE HEROD THE GREAT
- 15:56 REALLY DESTROYED EVERYTHING
- 15:58 WHICH WAS BEFORE HIM.
- 16:00 AND WHAT HE DID WAS TO PUT HERE,
- 16:04 DOWN BELOW, IT IS NATURAL ROCK,
- 16:06 AND TO BRING ONE COURSE
- 16:08 OF STONES, WHICH WAS HERE.
- 16:09 Zola: OH, THIS IS ON TOP
- 16:10 OF THE BEDROCK.
- 16:11 Danny: YES, THAT'S BEDROCK.
- 16:12 DOWN BELOW, THIS IS BEDROCK
- 16:14 AND ABOVE IT, THE BUILDERS.
- 16:15 BUT THE MOST EXCITING OF ALL
- 16:17 THE STONES IN THE WESTERN WALL
- 16:19 IS THE ONE WHICH YOU SEE HERE,
- 16:20 BECAUSE HERE YOU CAN SEE
- 16:21 HOW HE BROUGHT IT
- 16:22 FROM THE QUARRY.
- 16:24 SEE...COMPLETELY ROUGH.
- 16:25 HERE YOU SEE THE CONCENTRIC
- 16:26 MOVEMENTS OF THE CHISELS,
- 16:28 WHERE THEY SMOOTH IT,
- 16:29 AND HERE IT IS,
- 16:30 ALREADY FINISHED.
- 16:31 IT IS THE ONLY STONE
- 16:32 ALONG THE ENTIRE STORY
- 16:34 WHERE YOU CAN SEE ON ONE STONE,
- 16:36 YOU CAN SEE THIS...
- 16:37 YOU CAN SEE THIS...
- 16:38 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT.
- 16:39 Zola: OH YES.
- 16:40 Danny: SO IT SHOWS US THAT,
- 16:41 ACTUALLY, ALL THE STONES
- 16:42 WERE HEWN WHEN THEY WERE
- 16:44 ALREADY INSTALLED IN PLACE.
- 16:45 Zola: I SEE.
- 16:46 Danny: YOU UNDERSTAND IT..
- 16:47 HE BROUGHT IT,
- 16:48 ROUGHLY HE WORKED ON IT ON SITE
- 16:51 AND HERE IT IS,
- 16:52 THE FINAL SHAPE OF IT.
- 16:53 YOU SEE, HERE'S ANOTHER STONE
- 16:55 LIKE THAT.
- 16:56 THIS ONE IS, AGAIN,
- 16:57 YOU SEE, IT IS ALREADY SMOOTH
- 16:58 AND BEAUTIFUL, BUT HERE,
- 16:59 YOU CAN SEE IT IS VERY ROUGH.
- 17:00 Zola: OH, YES.
- 17:01 Danny: NOW, WE ARE NOW--
- 17:02 THIS IS THE END
- 17:03 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
- 17:04 THE WESTERN WALL ENDS HERE
- 17:05 LIKE THAT...AND AS WE GO,
- 17:07 THIS LITTLE FLIGHT OF STEPS,
- 17:08 WE'LL FIND OURSELVES
- 17:09 IN THE MACCABEAN TUNNEL.
- 17:11 Zola: AT THIS POINT,
- 17:12 WE LEFT A SEGMENT OF TUNNEL
- 17:14 DUG BY ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND
- 17:16 WE ENTERED THE HASMONEAN TUNNEL.
- 17:18 ORIGINALLY AN AQUEDUCT, IT WAS
- 17:20 CONSTRUCTED OVER 2,000 YEARS AGO
- 17:22 TO SUPPLY WATER TO THE
- 17:23 MACCABEAN PALACE FURTHER SOUTH.
- 17:26 THE WINDING CHANNEL WALLS
- 17:27 STRETCH HIGHER AND HIGHER,
- 17:29 TOWARD THE OLD CITY ABOVE.
- 17:30 Danny: YOU SEE HOW IT'S GOING
- 17:31 HIGHER AND HIGHER?
- 17:32 Zola: YES.
- 17:33 Danny: THE REASON IS THAT
- 17:34 ACTUALLY THEY NEVER BORED IT
- 17:35 AS A TUNNEL.
- 17:37 THEY EXCAVATED IT FROM TOP
- 17:39 AND THEN THEY COVERED IT
- 17:40 WITH SLABS
- 17:41 AND THEN IT BECAME A TUNNEL.
- 17:42 BUT THE THING IS, THE HILL IS
- 17:45 HIGHER THE FURTHER NORTH WE GO
- 17:47 AND IF WE GO NORTHWARDS...
- 17:48 LOOK AT THAT...
- 17:49 AT REALLY LOOKS LIKE A CANYON
- 17:51 IN THE DESERT.
- 17:52 NOW THE THING IS, THAT IT WAS
- 17:53 MADE BY THE MACCABEES IN ORDER
- 17:55 TO SUPPLY WATER TO THEIR PALACE.
- 17:58 TILL THE DISCOVERY OF
- 17:59 THIS TUNNEL WHICH, BY THE WAY,
- 18:01 WAS DISCOVERED ALREADY
- 18:02 IN THE 19th CENTURY,
- 18:04 BUT THE EXPLORERS THERE DIDN'T
- 18:05 UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS.
- 18:07 SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY DIDN'T
- 18:10 KNOW TO WHOM TO ATTRIBUTE IT.
- 18:12 NOW WE KNOW VERY WELL
- 18:13 THAT IT IS PRE-HERODIAN, BECAUSE
- 18:15 HEROD THE GREAT BUILT A DAM HERE
- 18:18 IN ORDER TO STOP THE WATER
- 18:20 WHICH CAME ALONG THIS AQUEDUCT;
- 18:23 ACTUALLY TO STOP IT
- 18:25 FROM GOING INTO THE WESTERN WALL
- 18:26 AND TO FLOOD HIS WALKS THERE.
- 18:29 BUT THE FANTASTIC THING IS THAT
- 18:30 WHEN WE GO UP TO THE TOP
- 18:32 AND YOU SEE THE CANYON,
- 18:33 THE VIEW OVER THE CANYON
- 18:34 IS REALLY MARVELOUS.
- 18:36 AND IF YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE
- 18:37 UNDER THE OLD CITY
- 18:39 IT IS REALLY FASCINATING.
- 18:40 Zola: OH, YES.
- 18:42 Danny: WE MADE A GLASS BRIDGE
- 18:43 SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WATER
- 18:45 STILL FLOWS UNDERNEATH.
- 18:46 Zola: OH, YES.
- 18:47 Danny: YOU CAN SEE IT
- 18:48 DOWN THERE.
- 18:49 YOU SEE, THE CEILING
- 18:50 IS REFLECTED IN THE WATER.
- 18:52 Zola: OH, YES.
- 18:53 Danny: AND THIS IS REALLY
- 18:54 A UNIQUE THING ALTOGETHER TO SEE
- 18:56 THE ENTIRE HEIGHT OF THE TUNNELS
- 18:58 FROM BOTTOM TO TOP.
- 19:00 Zola: WE CONTINUED OUR ASCENT TO
- 19:02 THE END OF THE HASMONEAN SEGMENT
- 19:03 OF THE TUNNEL, ENTERING THE
- 19:04 FINAL PART OF THE TUNNEL SYSTEM.
- 19:06 EXCAVATION COMPLETED HERE
- 19:08 IN 1993 STOPPED 12 INCHES SHORT
- 19:11 OF BREAKING THROUGH
- 19:12 ONTO THE VIA DOLOROSA,
- 19:14 SHOWN HERE ON THE MAP,
- 19:15 TRADITION HOLDS
- 19:17 CHRIST WALKED THIS STREET
- 19:18 TO HIS CRUCIFIXION.
- 19:20 FINALLY IN 1996,
- 19:22 NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN ISLAMIC
- 19:24 AND JEWISH AUTHORITIES RESULTED
- 19:25 IN THE APPROVAL AND CREATION
- 19:27 OF THE TUNNEL EXIT.
- 19:29 AT FIRST ALL WAS CALM, HOWEVER,
- 19:31 PALESTINIAN LEADER YASSER ARAFAT
- 19:33 MADE MISLEADING STATEMENTS
- 19:34 REGARDING THE TUNNEL LOCATION
- 19:36 WHICH INCITED RIOTS, KILLING 70
- 19:39 AND INJURING HUNDREDS.
- 19:40 SPEAKING NEAR THE EXIT, DANNY
- 19:42 EXPLAINS ARAFAT'S DECEPTION.
- 19:44 Danny: HE DIFFUSED,
- 19:46 IN THE INTERNET AND EVERYWHERE,
- 19:48 A MAP OF OUR TUNNELS AS IF
- 19:49 THEY GO UNDER THE TWO MOSQUES
- 19:51 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 19:54 WE PUBLISHED A MAP OF THE WALK,
- 19:55 AS WE DO IN EVERY EXCAVATION.
- 19:57 AND HE TOOK THE SAME MAP
- 19:58 WHICH WAS PUBLISHED,
- 20:00 AND MOVED IT, THE TUNNEL.
- 20:01 HE PUT ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT
- 20:04 BETWEEN THE TWO MOSQUES.
- 20:05 THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
- 20:06 AND EVERYONE BELIEVED--
- 20:08 NO ONE COULD BELIEVE THAT
- 20:09 THE LEADER OF LET'S SAY A NATION
- 20:11 WITH NATIONAL ASPIRATIONS
- 20:12 CAN LIE TO THE WORLD
- 20:13 IN SUCH A MANNER.
- 20:15 AND THIS IS ACTUALLY
- 20:16 WHAT HE DID.
- 20:17 David Dolan: THIS POLITICALLY
- 20:18 THREATENS...
- 20:19 Zola: DAVID DOLAN,
- 20:20 VETERAN JOURNALIST AND RESIDENT
- 20:21 OF JERUSALEM SPOKE WITH
- 20:22 DR. McCALL ABOUT THE EVENTS.
- 20:24 Tom McCALL: WHY DO WE GET
- 20:25 THIS KIND OF WRONG INFORMATION
- 20:28 OR MISINFORMATION
- 20:29 OR DISINFORMATION?
- 20:31 David: THE PALESTINIANS
- 20:32 PRESENTED IT AS A TUNNEL
- 20:34 THAT AFFECTED THE MOSQUE
- 20:36 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 20:37 SO THEY LEFT THE IMPRESSION THAT
- 20:40 IT DID GO ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH
- 20:41 THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND THE MEDIA
- 20:43 JUST REPORTED THAT WITHOUT
- 20:45 ACTUALLY CHECKING ON THE FACTS,
- 20:47 GOING DOWN THERE
- 20:49 AND LOOKING AT IT OR WHATEVER.
- 20:50 AND IT TOOK A FEW DAYS
- 20:52 FOR IT TO BE CLARIFIED EVEN HERE
- 20:54 LOCALLY, HERE IN THE MEDIA, THAT
- 20:56 THIS TUNNEL RUNS ON THE OUTSIDE
- 20:58 OF THE WESTERN WALL; THAT
- 21:00 IT'S AN ANCIENT TUNNEL, NOTHING
- 21:02 THAT HAS JUST BEEN BUILT.
- 21:03 IT WAS AN ANCIENT WATER TUNNEL
- 21:05 AT THE HASMONEAN PERIOD
- 21:06 AND THEREFORE HAS NOTHING
- 21:07 TO DO WITH THE MOSQUE ITSELF.
- 21:09 BUT, AGAIN, IT'S PRECISELY
- 21:11 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT ITSELF
- 21:13 THAT THE ISLAMIC CLAIM TO BE
- 21:16 THE FINAL REVELATION OF TRUTH,
- 21:17 THE FINAL FAITH,
- 21:19 THE SUPREME FAITH WAS,
- 21:21 THEY BELIEVED, CONCRETELY
- 21:23 DEMONSTRATED BY THEM
- 21:24 CAPTURING THE TEMPLE MOUNT FROM,
- 21:26 AT THAT TIME IN 638,
- 21:28 BYZANTINE CHRISTIANS.
- 21:30 Zola: AND YET THESE TUNNELS THAT
- 21:31 YOU HAVE EXCAVATED SHOW THAT YOU
- 21:34 WERE HERE MANY CENTURIES BEFORE
- 21:36 THE BIRTH OF MOHAMMAD EVEN.
- 21:38 Danny: DEFINITELY.
- 21:39 IT WAS THE JEWS WHO BROUGHT
- 21:41 THE ARABS HERE DURING THE
- 21:42 CREATION OF THE ISLAMIC EMPIRE
- 21:45 IN THE 7th CENTURY
- 21:46 BECAUSE WHEN THEY CAME HERE,
- 21:48 THEY DIDN'T KNOW
- 21:49 WHAT THEY ARE COMING TO.
- 21:50 IT WAS A CONVERTED JEW,
- 21:51 A MAN CALLED KA'AB AL-AHBAR WHO
- 21:53 BROUGHT THEM AND SHOWED THEM THE
- 21:55 HOLINESS OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 21:57 AND THEY WERE DELIBERATING.
- 21:58 AND WE'VE GOT IT
- 21:59 FROM ARAB SOURCES.
- 22:00 THEY WERE DELIBERATING WHERE
- 22:01 TO BUILD THE MOSQUE BECAUSE THEY
- 22:03 HAD NO--THERE WAS NO IMPORTANCE
- 22:05 WHATSOEVER TO JERUSALEM
- 22:06 IN THEIR EYES.
- 22:08 Tom: AND ARCHAEOLOGY IS AT THE
- 22:09 HEART OF THIS WHOLE CONTROVERSY
- 22:12 OVER WHO OWNS WHAT
- 22:14 AND WHO HAS THE MOST CLAIM
- 22:17 TO THESE PROPERTIES.
- 22:20 IT'S AN AMAZING THING THAT
- 22:21 ARCHAEOLOGY WOULD HAVE SUCH AN
- 22:23 IMPACT ON INTERNATIONAL HISTORY.
- 22:27 David: WELL, IT IS, AND IT'S
- 22:28 A FRUSTRATING THING FOR LOCAL
- 22:30 ARCHAEOLOGISTS WHO JUST WANT
- 22:32 TO GO OUT AND DO THEIR JOB.
- 22:34 I'M TALKING ABOUT ISRAELIS
- 22:35 AND ARABS AND INTERNATIONAL
- 22:36 ARCHAEOLOGISTS WHO JUST WANT TO
- 22:37 GO AND SEARCH FOR ANCIENT THINGS
- 22:39 AND THEY KEEP FINDING THAT
- 22:40 WHATEVER THEY FIND AFFECTS
- 22:42 TODAY'S POLITICAL STRUGGLE
- 22:45 AND THAT THEY'RE PULLED THIS WAY
- 22:46 AND THEY'RE PULLED THAT WAY.
- 22:47 Zola: EVEN WITH THE POLITICAL
- 22:48 PRESSURES, DANNY, KNOWING
- 22:50 THE IMPORTANCE OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL
- 22:51 FINDINGS FOR ALL FAITHS,
- 22:53 CONTINUES HIS WORK
- 22:54 AT THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 22:56 Danny: THE TUNNEL,
- 22:57 THE IDEA OF THE TUNNEL
- 22:58 IS TO EXPOSE TO THE JEWISH WORLD
- 22:59 THE SANCTITY
- 23:01 OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
- 23:02 MOREOVER, IN THIS RESPECT,
- 23:04 SINCE IT REFERS TO
- 23:06 THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD,
- 23:07 IT IS ALSO OF GREAT IMPORTANCE
- 23:09 TO THE CHRISTIAN WORLD.
- 23:11 TO THE MUSLIMS, OUR TUNNEL
- 23:12 IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, FROM
- 23:13 THE SCIENTIFIC POINT OF VIEW
- 23:16 WE HAVE REVEALED HERE
- 23:17 LAYERS OF ISLAMIC DEVELOPMENT,
- 23:20 URBAN DEVELOPMENT OF JERUSALEM
- 23:22 OF WHICH THEY NEVER KNEW BEFORE.
- 23:24 SO, ALL TOGETHER, INSTEAD OF,
- 23:26 I WILL SAY, ENCOURAGING,
- 23:28 THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A SITE
- 23:30 WHICH EVERYONE...
- 23:31 JEWS...CHRISTIANS...AND MUSLIMS
- 23:33 CAN FIND EACH OF THEM SOMETHING
- 23:35 WHICH WILL WARM HIS POINT...
- 23:37 I MEAN, WILL WARM HIS HEART
- 23:39 WITH A CERTAIN POINT
- 23:40 OF HIS LEGACY,
- 23:42 THEY MADE A WHOLE MESS OF IT.
- 23:43 AND THIS IS, REALLY...
- 23:45 I'M AFRAID IT IS TYPICAL THING.
- 23:47 AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO FURIOUS,
- 23:48 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WERE
- 23:49 AGREEMENTS AND UNDERSTANDINGS
- 23:52 WHICH THE WORLD DENIED.
- 23:53 AND, UNFORTUNATELY, THE MEDIA
- 23:54 TOOK PART IN THIS DENIAL.
- 23:57 Tom: WHAT DID YOU THINK
- 23:59 OF THE EARLY REPORTING THAT CAME
- 24:00 OUT ABOUT THE TUNNEL EPISODE?
- 24:04 Danny: WELL, TOM,
- 24:05 AS A JOURNALIST WHO'S LIVED HERE
- 24:06 AND REPORTED FROM HERE
- 24:08 FOR 16 YEARS I'VE GOT TO SAY
- 24:09 I WAS A BIT DISAPPOINTED IN IT.
- 24:12 JOURNALISTS KNOW THAT ALL OF
- 24:14 THESE ISSUES ARE VERY POLITICAL
- 24:17 AND EMOTIONAL, ETC.
- 24:18 THEY KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE GET
- 24:20 A SLANTED VERSION OF WHAT'S
- 24:22 GOING ON AND THERE WAS I THINK
- 24:24 A VERY LIMITED ATTEMPT
- 24:26 TO CHECK THE FACTS.
- 24:29 WE HAD, FOR INSTANCE,
- 24:30 ARCHAEOLOGIST DANNY BAHAT
- 24:32 WHO'S SO INVOLVED IN THIS
- 24:33 AND YET HE WASN'T CONSULTED
- 24:36 BY THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA.
- 24:38 THE BBC, CNN AND OTHERS
- 24:41 REPEATED THE REPORT THAT THE
- 24:43 ISRAELIS HAVE OPENED A TUNNEL.
- 24:45 WELL, OF COURSE, IT WAS JUST
- 24:46 AN EXIT TO THE TUNNEL,
- 24:48 A DOOR THAT HAD BEEN PUT IN.
- 24:50 SO THAT WAS VERY,
- 24:51 VERY MISLEADING.
- 24:52 AND THEY DIDN'T GO DOWN
- 24:54 AND LOOK AT THE THING TOO.
- 24:55 I WAS WAITING FOR ONE
- 24:56 OF THE INTERNATIONAL NETWORKS
- 24:58 TO HAVE A CAMERA CREW
- 24:59 GO THROUGH IT AND SAY,
- 25:00 "THIS IS WHERE IT BEGINS,
- 25:01 THIS IS WHERE IT ENDS,
- 25:02 THIS IS WHERE IT IS
- 25:03 IN RELATION TO THE MOSQUE, ETC."
- 25:05 AND WE DIDN'T SEE THAT AT ALL.
- 25:07 SO IT WAS VERY SHALLOW REPORTING
- 25:09 I THOUGHT.
- 25:10 Zola: WHAT IF THE MUSLIMS
- 25:11 AND JEWS REALLY WORKED TOGETHER?
- 25:14 David: I WISH IT WERE.
- 25:15 I TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE
- 25:16 NOW IS--AND I'M, OF COURSE,
- 25:18 YOU CAN IMAGINE I WANT
- 25:19 THIS PEACE AND EVERYTHING...
- 25:20 EVEN WITH EGYPT, WITH WHICH
- 25:21 WE SIGNED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO,
- 25:23 A PEACE AGREEMENT;
- 25:24 YOU DON'T SEE ANY
- 25:26 SCIENTIFIC COLLABORATION,
- 25:27 IN NO WAY, IN ARCHAEOLOGY.
- 25:29 WITH JORDAN,
- 25:30 I HOPE IT WILL WORK BETTER.
- 25:32 TO THE PRESENT THERE IS NOTHING.
- 25:33 I WONDER IF THE ARABS WILL DO IT
- 25:36 AT ALL, ESPECIALLY ON JERUSALEM.
- 25:39 I WONDER.
- 25:40 I WOULD LIKE IT VERY MUCH.
- 25:41 Zola: YOU WOULD HOPE--
- 25:42 Danny: YES, BUT REMEMBER THAT
- 25:44 STILL, THE FEELING THAT WE ARE
- 25:46 PART OF THE MIDDLE EAST HAS
- 25:48 NOT YET SEEPED TO THEIR MIND.
- 25:50 THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM STARTS
- 25:52 AND THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS.
- 25:55 ♪ ♪
- 26:25 Myles: WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE
- 26:26 EXPERTS LIKE DAVID DOLAN AND
- 26:27 DANNY BAHAT TO EXPLAIN TO US THE
- 26:29 REALITY ON THE GROUND IN ISRAEL.
- 26:31 SINCE THE TIME OF THESE RIOTS,
- 26:34 WHAT'S COME TO LIGHT
- 26:35 IS THAT IT CAME TO PASS
- 26:36 DURING BIBI NETANYAHU'S
- 26:38 FIRST TERM, WHEN HE WAS HAVING
- 26:40 THE HISTORIC RECONCILIATION
- 26:42 MEETING WITH HELMUT KOHL,
- 26:43 THE CHANCELLOR OF GERMANY.
- 26:45 DURING THAT TIME, THESE RIOTS
- 26:46 STARTED AT THE WESTERN WALL
- 26:48 AND NETANYAHU SAID TO ARAFAT,
- 26:50 "I WILL HAVE TANKS IN RAMALLAH
- 26:52 IN 15 MINUTES,
- 26:53 IF YOU DO NOT STOP THE RIOTS."
- 26:54 THANKFULLY,
- 26:55 ARAFAT STOPPED THE RIOTS.
- 26:57 UNFORTUNATELY,
- 26:58 70 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES.
- 27:00 Katharine: THANKFULLY,
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