
“The Promised Son”
Isaac is prophesied; conflict separates Abraham and Lot. Katharine interviews Rachael Lipkin, an Egyptian-born Jewish interpreter of Arabic-language media.
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Caption transcript for Abraham: Father of Faith — “The Promised Son” (5/8)
- 00:01 (♪ Theme Music ♪)
- 00:23 ( Speaking Hebrew )
- 00:30 ♪ ♪
- 00:49 Myles: SHALOM AND WELCOME TO
- 00:50 ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS.
- 00:51 I'M MYLES WEISS.
- 00:52 Katharine: AND I'M
- 00:53 KATHARINE WEISS AND WE WANT TO
- 00:54 WELCOME YOU BACK TO OUR SERIES
- 00:55 IN THE LIFE OF ABRAHAM.
- 00:57 Myles: I KNOW; IT'S SO EXCITING
- 00:58 TO SEE HOW THIS LIFE OF FAITH
- 00:59 GETS PLAYED OUT FOR US BECAUSE
- 01:01 IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO OURS.
- 01:02 THERE'S A HISTORICAL,
- 01:04 A PROPHETIC AND A PERSONAL
- 01:05 MEANING THAT WE CAN DRAW
- 01:07 OUT OF THE LIFE OF ABRAHAM.
- 01:08 Katharine: WELL,
- 01:09 IT'S VERY PERSONAL FOR THEM NOW.
- 01:10 THEY'VE WAITED ALMOST 2 DECADES
- 01:12 FROM THE FIRST PROMISE
- 01:13 IN GENESIS 12,
- 01:14 TO NOW, GOD IS COMING TO THEM,
- 01:16 THE TWO ANGELS
- 01:18 AND THE LORD HIMSELF.
- 01:19 HE'S RECONFIRMING
- 01:20 THE COVENANT PROMISE THAT
- 01:21 HE'D HAVE, THAT SHE WOULD BE
- 01:23 THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE THE SON
- 01:25 AND IT WOULD BE BETWEEN
- 01:26 ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.
- 01:28 AND GOD IS SAYING,
- 01:29 "THIS IS MY PLAN, NO EXTRAS."
- 01:31 AND SO SARAH, YOU KNOW,
- 01:34 IT'S GOD'S APPOINTED TIME,
- 01:35 NOT OUR TIME,
- 01:37 AND SOMETIMES THAT'S DIFFICULT.
- 01:40 Myles: THERE'S A DISCREPANCY
- 01:41 SOMETIMES BETWEEN WHAT GOD
- 01:42 PROMISES AND THE TIMING HE HAS
- 01:44 AND WHAT WE TRY TO MAKE HAPPEN
- 01:46 IN THAT INSTANCE.
- 01:47 THE SCRIPTURE TELLS US
- 01:48 THAT HOPE DEFERRED
- 01:49 MAKES THE HEART SICK,
- 01:50 BUT WHEN THE DESIRE COMES,
- 01:52 IT'S A TREE OF LIFE.
- 01:53 AND WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE THAT
- 01:54 HERE IN GENESIS 18 AND 19.
- 01:57 LET'S GO TO OUR DRAMA AS WE SEE
- 01:58 ABRAHAM AND SARAH RECEIVE THEIR
- 02:00 VISITORS IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY.
- 02:06 Narrator: AND THE LORD
- 02:07 APPEARED UNTO ABRAHAM
- 02:08 IN THE PLAINS OF MAMRE.
- 02:39 ( Speaking Hebrew )
- 03:31 ( Sarah Laughing )
- 03:37 ( Speaking Hebrew )
- 03:57 Myles: WHEN YOU COME TO ISRAEL,
- 03:58 YOU'LL EXPERIENCE THAT
- 03:59 VERY HOSPITALITY THAT
- 04:00 WE SEE ABRAHAM EXEMPLIFYING
- 04:02 WITH THESE STRANGERS THAT COME.
- 04:04 THREE MEN APPEAR.
- 04:05 "MEN" APPEAR.
- 04:07 WHAT WE REALLY ARE SEEING
- 04:08 ARE TWO ANGELS AND A THEOPHANY,
- 04:10 THE PRESENCE
- 04:11 OF THE LORD HIMSELF
- 04:12 AT THE FRONT OF ABRAHAM'S TENT.
- 04:14 WE KNOW THIS IS A THEOPHANY.
- 04:15 HE'S DIFFERENT
- 04:16 FROM THE OTHER TWO.
- 04:17 THE OTHER TWO WILL BE GOING ON
- 04:18 TO SODOM TO TAKE CARE
- 04:20 OF SOME KIND OF BUSINESS THERE,
- 04:22 BUT THIS ONE STAYS WITH ABRAHAM.
- 04:24 AND ABRAHAM RUSHES TO CREATE
- 04:28 A COVENANT MEAL WITH THEM.
- 04:29 THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART
- 04:30 OF THE STORY OF COVENANT.
- 04:32 THERE'S ALWAYS
- 04:33 A SHARED TIME OF FOOD.
- 04:34 THERE'S ALWAYS
- 04:35 A SHARED TIME OF HOSPITALITY.
- 04:36 IT REMINDS ME OF JESUS
- 04:38 MAKING THE LAST SUPPER
- 04:39 WITH HIS DISCIPLES
- 04:41 OR PREPARING FISH
- 04:43 FOR THE FISHERMEN ON THE SHORE
- 04:45 AFTER HIS RESURRECTION.
- 04:46 THERE'S A WAY THAT
- 04:47 THERE'S SOMETHING AROUND
- 04:48 THE BREAKING OF BREAD
- 04:49 THAT BRINGS US TOGETHER
- 04:50 AND RATIFIES OR TOUCHES
- 04:52 THE REALITY OF COVENANT.
- 04:54 THAT'S WHAT WE SEE HERE
- 04:55 WITH THIS APPEARANCE
- 04:57 OF THE LORD AND THE TWO ANGELS.
- 04:58 IT'S INTERESTING
- 04:59 THAT THIS CENTER MAN, THIS ONE,
- 05:01 APPEARS BETWEEN
- 05:03 THE TWO ANGELS,
- 05:04 OR COMES WITH TWO ANGELS.
- 05:05 SCRIPTURE TELLS US ABOUT GOD
- 05:06 THAT HE DWELLS
- 05:08 BETWEEN THE TWO CHERUBIM
- 05:09 AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE HERE.
- 05:11 ABRAHAM IS ENCOUNTERING THESE
- 05:14 ANGELS AND THE LORD HIMSELF
- 05:16 IN THE MIDST OF
- 05:17 THE PAIN OF CIRCUMCISION,
- 05:18 IN THE MIDST OF THIS
- 05:19 INCREDIBLE HARSH ENVIRONMENT
- 05:20 HE IS GIVEN TO HOSPITALITY
- 05:22 WHICH IS A HEARTBEAT
- 05:24 OF THE CULTURE HERE.
- 05:25 THE VISITOR DOESN'T INQUIRE
- 05:26 ABOUT SARAH'S PRESENCE,
- 05:28 WHERE SHE IS.
- 05:29 SHE'S IN THE TENT AND THE LORD
- 05:30 HIMSELF SAYS THAT SHE WILL BEAR
- 05:32 A CHILD AND IT MAKES HER LAUGH.
- 05:34 IT DRIVES THEM JUST OVER THE
- 05:35 EDGE TO THINK THAT THEY, BEING
- 05:37 PAST THE AGE OF CHILDBEARING,
- 05:39 ARE GOING TO BEAR A CHILD
- 05:41 AND HE SAYS WITHIN A YEAR
- 05:42 HE'LL RETURN AND THERE WILL BE
- 05:44 A CHILD FOR THEM.
- 05:46 AND THE LAUGHTER BECOMES
- 05:47 THE NAME OF THIS PROMISED SON
- 05:49 "YITZCHAK," "LAUGHTER."
- 05:50 I THINK HERE IS ONE
- 05:52 OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TAKEAWAYS
- 05:53 FROM THIS SECTION OF THE STORY.
- 05:55 THE WORD COMES, "IS ANYTHING
- 05:58 TOO HARD FOR THE LORD?"
- 06:00 AND I WANT YOU TO HEAR
- 06:01 THAT WORD TODAY.
- 06:02 I WANT YOU TO APPLY THAT
- 06:03 TO YOUR OWN LIFE.
- 06:04 I WANT TO APPLY IT TO MY OWN.
- 06:05 IS ANYTHING TOO HARD
- 06:07 FOR THE LORD?
- 06:08 HE IS THE GOD OF MIRACLES,
- 06:09 HE'S THE GOD OF SECOND CHANCES,
- 06:11 HE'S THE GOD OF THE PROMISE
- 06:13 AND THAT'S WHAT THE WORD IS
- 06:14 THAT COMES TO THEM HERE.
- 06:15 IS ANYTHING TOO HARD
- 06:16 FOR THE LORD?
- 06:17 THAT WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE
- 06:18 WITH MAN IS POSSIBLE WITH GOD.
- 06:21 AND SO AS THE STORY UNFOLDS,
- 06:23 WE REALLY BEGIN TO SEE THAT
- 06:25 WHEN GOD MAKES THE COVENANT,
- 06:27 HE FULFILLS HIS WORD.
- 06:28 THERE'S SUCH A DIFFERENCE
- 06:29 BETWEEN WHO ABRAHAM WAS
- 06:31 BEFORE THE COVENANT CUTTING
- 06:33 AND THE CIRCUMCISION
- 06:35 AND WHO HE IS AFTER.
- 06:36 BEFORE, HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE
- 06:37 THINGS HAPPEN IN THE NATURAL,
- 06:39 WITH NO POSSIBLE GOOD EFFECT.
- 06:41 BUT, AFTERWARDS,
- 06:43 HE BECOMES ONE WHO IS
- 06:44 DEPENDENT ON THE GLORY OF GOD,
- 06:46 THE MIRACLE-WORKING POWER
- 06:48 OF GOD AND THE BLESSING OF GOD.
- 06:50 AND WE SEE THAT UNFOLDING.
- 06:51 I WANT YOU ALSO TO GRAB HOLD OF
- 06:54 THAT TODAY, THAT GOD IS FOR YOU;
- 06:56 THERE IS NOTHING
- 06:57 THAT IS TOO HARD FOR OUR GOD.
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- 07:38 Narrator: THEY HAD
- 07:39 GOOD REASON TO LAUGH.
- 07:41 BOTH ABRAHAM AND SARAH
- 07:42 HAD BEEN INFORMED BY THE LORD
- 07:44 THAT THEY WERE GOING TO
- 07:46 GIVE BIRTH TO A SON,
- 07:48 EVEN IN THEIR LATER YEARS.
- 07:53 BUT THE LORD'S MESSAGE FOR
- 07:54 SODOM WAS ANYTHING BUT GOOD.
- 08:02 ( Speaking Hebrew )
- 08:59 Myles: WE'RE IN THE AREA
- 09:00 OF THE DEAD SEA
- 09:02 WHERE SODOM AND GOMORRAH
- 09:03 NO DOUBT WERE EXISTING
- 09:04 AT THE TIME OF ABRAHAM.
- 09:06 YOU KNOW, THE JUDGMENTS OF GOD
- 09:09 ARE REALLY DIFFICULT
- 09:10 TO UNDERSTAND AND WE LIKE
- 09:11 TO THINK OF GOD AS LOVING ONLY
- 09:13 AND THAT HE WOULDN'T JUDGE.
- 09:14 THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WHEN
- 09:16 THE JUDGMENTS OF GOD COME,
- 09:17 HE MAKES A PROVISION,
- 09:18 A WAY OF ESCAPE
- 09:20 THAT'S PICTURED IN THIS STORY.
- 09:21 ABRAHAM IS GOING TO BE SEEN NOW
- 09:24 IN HIS ROLE AS AN INTERCESSOR,
- 09:26 VERY IMPORTANT INSTRUCTION
- 09:28 FOR US AND THE NEW TESTAMENT
- 09:29 BELIEVERS, BECAUSE THE ROLE
- 09:31 OF INTERCESSION IS REALLY ABOUT
- 09:33 RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
- 09:34 IN FACT, THE WAY GOD SPEAKS
- 09:36 OF IT IN VERSE 17, HE SAYS,
- 09:39 ( Speaking Hebrew )
- 09:45 THE LORD SAID:
- 09:49 THEY ARE SO CLOSE,
- 09:51 THEY ARE SO KNOWN
- 09:52 ONE OF ANOTHER
- 09:54 THAT GOD'S TESTIMONY OF ABRAHAM,
- 09:56 HIS FRIEND, IS,
- 09:57 "I DON'T EVEN HIDE FROM HIM
- 09:58 THAT WHICH I'M DOING."
- 09:59 I WANT TO WALK WITH GOD
- 10:00 IN THAT WAY.
- 10:01 SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING DEVELOP
- 10:02 HERE IS THIS RELATIONSHIP WHERE
- 10:06 WHAT'S UNFOLDING IS THE REALITY
- 10:08 THAT GOD CAN TRUST ABRAHAM
- 10:10 AND ABRAHAM CAN TRUST GOD.
- 10:12 IT'S A GENUINE RELATIONSHIP.
- 10:14 IT REMINDS ME OF JOHN 15
- 10:15 IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WHERE
- 10:17 JESUS SAID TO HIS DISCIPLES:
- 10:22 WHY? WHEN?
- 10:24 "WHEN YOU DO THAT
- 10:25 WHICH I COMMAND YOU."
- 10:26 I WANT TO WALK WITH THE LORD
- 10:27 IN SUCH A WAY
- 10:28 THAT HE CAN CALL ME HIS FRIEND.
- 10:30 WELL, THE ROLE OF INTERCESSION
- 10:31 IS VERY, VERY POWERFUL.
- 10:33 IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
- 10:34 IT REALLY IS
- 10:35 FOR EVERY SINGLE BELIEVER
- 10:37 IN THE NEW TESTAMENT ERA.
- 10:39 WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND
- 10:40 THAT WE CAN AFFECT THE WAY
- 10:42 THE WORLD UNFOLDS.
- 10:44 WE CAN AFFECT THE HISTORY
- 10:45 AND THE DESTINY OF PEOPLE
- 10:47 THROUGH OUR PRAYER.
- 10:49 IT'S GOD'S GIFT TO US,
- 10:51 INTERCESSION.
- 10:53 IT'S REALLY A POWER
- 10:54 THAT'S GIVEN TO US BY GOD.
- 10:56 IT'S A WAY THAT HE ESTEEMS
- 10:58 OUR OPINION.
- 10:59 HE INCLUDES US IN THE PROCESS
- 11:01 OF WHAT HE DOES.
- 11:03 AND WE LEARN FROM INTERCESSION,
- 11:04 FROM PRAYER,
- 11:05 THAT HE ACTUALLY HEARS US.
- 11:06 AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE
- 11:07 WITH ABRAHAM.
- 11:08 ABRAHAM ACTUALLY BEGINS
- 11:09 TO BARGAIN WITH GOD ABOUT THE
- 11:11 FUTURE OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH.
- 11:13 "IF THERE ARE 50 RIGHTEOUS,
- 11:15 WILL YOU SPARE THEM?"
- 11:16 AND HE WORKS HIS WAY DOWN TO 10.
- 11:18 "IF THERE ARE 10 RIGHTEOUS,
- 11:19 WOULD YOU SPARE THEM?"
- 11:21 YOU KNOW, THE RABBIS SAY
- 11:22 THAT THAT'S THE BASIS
- 11:23 OF THE MODERN "TEN-MAN MINION."
- 11:25 THE REASON WHY THERE'S
- 11:26 A TEN-MAN REQUIREMENT IN JUDAISM
- 11:29 FOR A PRAYER MEETING,
- 11:30 IS BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS
- 11:33 OF THE TEN RIGHTEOUS
- 11:35 THAT ARE BEING LOOKED FOR
- 11:36 BY ABRAHAM AND GOD TOGETHER.
- 11:39 WE KNOW FOR US,
- 11:40 AS BELIEVERS IN YESHUA,
- 11:42 WHEREVER TWO OR MORE
- 11:43 ARE GATHERED IN HIS NAME,
- 11:44 HE'S THERE.
- 11:45 BUT THAT TEN-MAN MINION
- 11:47 IS STILL A TRADITION
- 11:48 IN PRESENT-DAY JUDAISM
- 11:50 BASED ON THIS STORY
- 11:51 FROM SODOM AND GOMORRAH.
- 11:53 THIS IS REALLY A STORY
- 11:55 OF RELATIONSHIP AND WE SEE THIS
- 11:57 OVER AND OVER AGAIN
- 11:58 AS ABRAHAM IS TALKING TO GOD,
- 12:01 GOD IS TALKING TO HIM AND
- 12:03 THEY'RE SPEAKING FACE TO FACE,
- 12:04 FRIEND TO FRIEND.
- 12:05 IT'S LIKE THE INTERCESSORS
- 12:07 IN THE OLD TESTAMENT;
- 12:08 MOSES STANDING IN FOR ISRAEL,
- 12:10 ELIJAH INTERCEDING
- 12:11 FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL,
- 12:13 AND NOW, FOR YOU AND I,
- 12:15 WE ARE ALL TO STAND IN FOR
- 12:17 OUR FRIENDS, FOR OUR FAMILIES,
- 12:19 AND I WOULD SAY,
- 12:20 FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL.
- 12:22 I WANT TO CALL ON YOU
- 12:24 TO STAND WITH ME AS WE PRAY
- 12:27 FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM,
- 12:28 AS WE STAND IN, IN INTERCESSION,
- 12:31 FOR THE FUTURE
- 12:32 OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE
- 12:33 AND THE NATION OF ISRAEL.
- 12:37 ♪ ♪
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- 13:10 Katharine: ISRAEL IT'S THE LAND
- 13:11 OF COVENANTS, IT'S THE LAND
- 13:13 OF PROMISE, IT'S THE HOLY LAND.
- 13:15 AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HOST YOU
- 13:17 ON A TOUR
- 13:18 THAT'S COMING UP WITH US.
- 13:20 THE BIBLE SAYS IN PSALM 84:
- 13:26 THERE'S A SPECIAL BLESSING
- 13:28 AS YOU SET YOUR HEART
- 13:29 TO GO TO ISRAEL.
- 13:30 GOD REALLY DOES SOMETHING
- 13:31 AMAZING.
- 13:32 Myles: IT'S TRUE; I HEAR
- 13:33 THAT FEEDBACK ALL THE TIME
- 13:34 FROM OUR GUESTS.
- 13:36 AND EVERY TIME WE GO, THERE'S
- 13:37 SOMETHING NEW FROM THE WORD,
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- 14:13 AND THE IMPACT THAT
- 14:14 THEY'VE HAD ON HISTORY
- 14:15 AND, REALLY, ON OUR LIVES
- 14:16 AS WE LEARN FROM THEM.
- 14:18 YOU KNOW, AS THE STORY
- 14:19 OF ABRAHAM UNFOLDS,
- 14:21 IT'S JUST SO AMAZING THAT WE GET
- 14:24 TO PARTAKE OF HIS WALK OF FAITH
- 14:26 AND REALLY SEE HOW
- 14:28 THE UPS AND DOWNS, EVEN THOUGH
- 14:30 THEY AFFECT MAN AND WOMAN,
- 14:32 GOD ALWAYS COMES THROUGH.
- 14:33 Katharine: ABRAHAM WAS SET APART
- 14:35 SO HE COULD STEP IN,
- 14:36 SO HE COULD BE THAT INTERCESSOR
- 14:39 TO INTERCEDE FOR LOT
- 14:40 AND HIS FAMILY.
- 14:42 AND GOD RESCUED LOT
- 14:43 AND HIS FAMILY.
- 14:44 THOSE THAT WERE WILLING.
- 14:45 Myles: RIGHT, AND GOD CALLS HIM
- 14:47 A PATRIARCH, CALLS HIM A PROPHET
- 14:48 AND THEN CALLS ABRAHAM
- 14:49 "MY FRIEND."
- 14:50 Katharine: RIGHT.
- 14:51 Myles: AND HE SPEAKS TO HIM
- 14:52 ABOUT HOW HE'S GOING TO
- 14:53 TELL HIM BEFOREHAND
- 14:55 THESE THINGS THAT ARE COMING
- 14:56 AND HE REALLY DOES TRY
- 14:57 TO RESCUE LOT AND HIS FAMILY.
- 14:58 HE MAKES THE PROVISION,
- 15:00 AND WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE
- 15:02 HOW THAT PLAYS OUT,
- 15:03 BUT GOD ALWAYS MAKES A PROVISION
- 15:06 AND WE REALLY SEE THAT
- 15:07 IN THESE VERSES, IN THIS DRAMA.
- 15:09 SO LET'S RETURN TO OUR STORY
- 15:11 AS WE SEE LOT AND HIS FAMILY
- 15:13 DEALING WITH THE JUDGMENT
- 15:15 COMING ON SODOM.
- 15:22 Narrator: AND THERE CAME
- 15:23 TWO ANGELS TO SODOM AND SAID
- 15:25 UNTO LOT, "HAST THOU FAMILY
- 15:27 HERE IN SODOM?
- 15:29 IF SO, TAKE THEM FROM THE CITY,
- 15:31 FOR THE LORD HAS SENT US
- 15:33 TO DESTROY IT."
- 15:35 AND LOT WARNED HIS SONS-IN-LAW
- 15:37 OF THE PENDING DESTRUCTION
- 15:39 BUT THEY WOULDN'T LISTEN.
- 15:50 ( Speaking Hebrew )
- 17:01 Myles: GOD HAS WARNED
- 17:02 ABRAHAM AND LOT
- 17:03 ABOUT THE IMPENDING JUDGMENT.
- 17:05 YOU KNOW, HE WARNED NOAH.
- 17:07 HE WARNS US
- 17:08 ABOUT JUDGMENT TO COME.
- 17:09 I THINK ABOUT NEW TESTAMENT
- 17:10 BELIEVERS, THAT WE'VE BEEN
- 17:12 WARNED, THAT WE NEED TO BE
- 17:13 LOOKING FOR THAT BLESSED HOPE
- 17:16 BECAUSE WHEN JUDGMENT
- 17:17 COMES IN THE EARTH, WE COULD
- 17:18 BE TAKEN UP BY RAPTURE,
- 17:20 BEFORE THE JUDGMENT COMES.
- 17:21 Katharine: AND GOD WORKS
- 17:22 WITH ABRAHAM
- 17:23 AS HE DOES WITH A FRIEND.
- 17:25 IN THE INTERCESSION,
- 17:26 THE ANGEL ACTUALLY WENT
- 17:28 AND GRABBED HOLD OF LOT
- 17:30 AND HIS WIFE.
- 17:31 THERE WAS EVEN A HALTING
- 17:32 AT THAT MOMENT,
- 17:34 AND IT IS THE ANGEL OF THE LORD
- 17:35 THAT CAUSED THEM
- 17:36 TO MOVE FORWARD.
- 17:37 AND LOT'S WIFE MUST HAVE HAD
- 17:40 SOMETHING IN HER HEART THAT
- 17:41 WAS NOT ABLE TO RISE UP AND GO,
- 17:44 LIKE SARAH WAS WITH ABRAHAM,
- 17:47 BECAUSE SHE GOT PARTWAY OUT
- 17:49 AND EVEN THOUGH DESTRUCTION
- 17:50 WAS COMING, SHE LOOKED BACK.
- 17:52 Myles: SHE DID, AND THERE WAS
- 17:53 A WARNING NOT TO LOOK BACK.
- 17:54 PEOPLE QUESTION THE SCIENCE
- 17:55 OF THIS THING, BUT I REMEMBER
- 17:57 GROWING UP AND SEEING
- 17:58 A NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC SPREAD
- 18:00 ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF POMPEII
- 18:03 IN ITALY IN 79 A.D.
- 18:05 AND IN AN INSTANT,
- 18:07 PEOPLE WERE FROZEN IN THE ACT
- 18:09 OF LIVING THEIR LIVES,
- 18:10 JUST AS IF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE
- 18:12 HAD COME FROM HEAVEN.
- 18:13 IT CAME OUT OF A VOLCANO
- 18:14 AND THEY WERE FROZEN IN TIME.
- 18:16 SO I BELIEVE IT'S VERY REAL,
- 18:18 SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN.
- 18:19 IN FACT, JOSEPHUS SAYS THAT
- 18:22 HE HAD SEEN THE PILLAR OF SALT
- 18:25 THAT WAS ALLEGEDLY LOT'S WIFE
- 18:27 SOMEWHERE IN THIS AREA.
- 18:28 SO IT'S SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE
- 18:31 THAT THIS HAPPENED THE WAY
- 18:32 THE SCRIPTURE TELLS IT AND
- 18:34 WE DON'T NEED TO QUESTION THAT,
- 18:35 BECAUSE IT REALLY IS THE WAY
- 18:37 GOD WAS BRINGING JUDGMENT
- 18:39 IN THAT DAY.
- 18:40 REALLY THE QUESTION FOR US IS
- 18:41 WHAT ARE WE LOOKING BACK TO?
- 18:43 LET'S NOT LOOK BACK.
- 18:44 LET'S GO FORWARD WITH THE LORD.
- 18:46 Katharine: AND MAKE OUR PURSUIT
- 18:47 OF HIM WHO'S PURSUING US.
- 18:49 EVEN THOUGH LOT HAD PITCHED
- 18:51 HIS TENT WHERE THE WORLD WAS,
- 18:53 WHERE DESTRUCTION WAS,
- 18:55 YOU SEE, THE MERCY OF GOD,
- 18:56 INTERVENING IN HIS LIFE
- 18:58 AND HIS FAMILY'S LIVES.
- 19:01 LOT REALLY COOPERATED.
- 19:03 THE SCRIPTURE EVEN SAYS
- 19:04 IN PETER, "RIGHTEOUS LOT."
- 19:06 I DON'T HOW THAT WORKS OUT,
- 19:07 BUT GOD DOES,
- 19:08 AND HE'S SO MERCIFUL.
- 19:10 Myles: YES, IT'S INTERESTING,
- 19:11 BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS,
- 19:12 "IN JUDGMENT, REMEMBER MERCY"
- 19:13 AND I THINK WE SEE THAT
- 19:14 WITH PETER'S TESTIMONY
- 19:16 ABOUT RIGHTEOUS LOT,
- 19:17 THAT GOD IS MERCIFUL
- 19:18 IN THE MIDST OF JUDGMENT.
- 19:19 HE MAKES A WAY OF ESCAPE FOR US
- 19:22 AS HE DID FOR THEM.
- 19:23 AMOS 3:7 SAYS, THAT HE
- 19:25 WILL NOT HIDE WHAT HE IS DOING
- 19:27 FROM HIS SERVANTS, THE PROPHETS,
- 19:29 AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT
- 19:30 THAT ABRAHAM WAS NOT ONLY
- 19:32 A PATRIARCH BUT HE WAS ALSO
- 19:33 A PROPHET AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING
- 19:35 HERE IN THIS INCREDIBLE STORY
- 19:37 OF JUDGMENT, ESCAPE
- 19:39 AND THE AMAZING DRAMA OF THIS
- 19:42 IS THAT ALWAYS GOD IS SOVEREIGN.
- 19:44 HE'S ALWAYS WANTING THE BEST
- 19:45 FOR YOU AND FOR ME
- 19:46 AND HE'S ALWAYS WANTING
- 19:47 TO MAKE A WAY FOR US
- 19:49 THROUGH THE TIMES OF JUDGMENT.
- 19:57 Katharine: MYLES, YOUR TEACHING
- 19:58 ABOUT JUDGMENT AND HOW SCIENCE
- 20:01 HAS ESTABLISHED THAT
- 20:02 IT WAS ACTUALLY A REALITY.
- 20:03 Myles: POSSIBLY,
- 20:04 THE WAY IT HAPPENED IN ITALY
- 20:06 AND THEN WE SEE IT
- 20:07 IN THE SCRIPTURES.
- 20:08 AND YET WE SEE GOD'S MERCY
- 20:09 ALWAYS REACHING FOR MANKIND
- 20:12 AND THAT'S REALLY THE THEME
- 20:13 OF THAT PART OF THE STORY,
- 20:14 ISN'T IT, THAT GOD
- 20:15 WAS MAKING A WAY WHERE
- 20:17 THERE SEEMED TO BE NO WAY.
- 20:18 I THINK ABOUT TODAY
- 20:19 IN TODAY'S TIMES, WE HAVE SUCH
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- 20:26 AND ONE OF OUR GREAT FRIENDS
- 20:27 IN THE MINISTRY
- 20:28 IS AVI AND RACHEL LIPKIN.
- 20:30 RACHAEL WAS BORN IN EGYPT.
- 20:32 SHE IS AN EGYPTIAN JEW AND SHE'S
- 20:35 ABLE TO INTERPRET THE ARAB MEDIA
- 20:37 FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL
- 20:39 AND FOR YOU AND ME, SO WE GET
- 20:40 TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING SAID
- 20:42 IN ARABIC AMONGST THEMSELVES,
- 20:44 VERSUS WHAT'S BEING SAID FOR
- 20:46 OUR CONSUMPTION IN THE WEST,
- 20:47 IN ENGLISH.
- 20:48 KATHARINE WAS ABLE TO
- 20:49 INTERVIEW HER, AND SO LET'S GO
- 20:51 TO KATHARINE'S INTERVIEW
- 20:52 WITH RACHEL LIPKIN.
- 20:56 Katharine: RACHEL,
- 20:57 I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW ARABIC,
- 20:58 SO YOU ARE ABLE TO DECIPHER
- 20:59 WHAT THE NEWS IS NOT PICKING UP.
- 21:01 TELL US A LITTLE BIT
- 21:02 ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING.
- 21:04 Rachel: OKAY, I AM WORKING
- 21:05 FOR THE RADIO AUTHORITY
- 21:07 ALREADY MORE THAN 35 YEARS
- 21:10 AND MY FIRST LANGUAGE IS ARABIC,
- 21:14 LIKE, I KNOW ENGLISH,
- 21:15 I KNOW FRENCH AND
- 21:17 I CAN UNDERSTAND SPANISH TOO.
- 21:20 FOR ME, I WENT THROUGH SO MUCH
- 21:22 IN THE AUTHORITY RADIO,
- 21:25 AND, IN THE END,
- 21:26 I GOT TO A POINT THAT
- 21:27 THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK
- 21:29 THAT I COULD DO IS TO LISTEN
- 21:31 TO THE ARABS' COMMUNICATION,
- 21:34 LIKE RADIO, TV, CABLE,
- 21:36 EVERYTHING, AND HEAR ABOUT
- 21:38 WHAT THEY SAY, REALLY,
- 21:40 WITH THEIR OWN WORDS.
- 21:43 I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING
- 21:44 TO THE WEST ARE NOT THE SAME
- 21:47 WHAT THEY ARE TALKING
- 21:48 TO THE ARAB COUNTRIES.
- 21:49 THIS ACTIVITY
- 21:51 OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERS
- 21:52 ARE ALREADY A LONG TIME AGO,
- 21:55 AND WE KNEW THAT THIS IS NOT
- 21:59 AN ISSUE OF A VERY SHORT TIME.
- 22:03 Katharine: YOU WERE IN EGYPT.
- 22:04 YOUR FATHER WAS THROWN IN JAIL
- 22:06 FOR THE SIMPLE FACT
- 22:07 OF BEING A JEW.
- 22:08 Rachel: EXACTLY; NOT ONLY HIM,
- 22:09 BUT ALL THE JEWS WERE CAPTURED,
- 22:11 MEN AND BOYS, PUT IN PRISONS.
- 22:13 Katharine: AND NOW IT'S
- 22:14 ACCELERATING EVEN BEYOND SUCH,
- 22:16 SINCE THE SPRING
- 22:18 OF THE UPRISING.
- 22:19 Rachel: UPRISING, YES, BUT YOU
- 22:21 HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS,
- 22:22 LIKE, THE FIRST STEP IS TO
- 22:24 TAKE CARE OF THE JEWS IN EGYPT,
- 22:26 AND NOW THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF
- 22:29 THE CHRISTIANS.
- 22:30 YOU KNOW THAT THE LAST
- 22:31 FEW MONTHS AND YEAR,
- 22:33 THEY ARE AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS
- 22:35 VERY OPENLY AND NOBODY,
- 22:37 NOBODY CAN TAKE CARE OF THEM.
- 22:39 WE ARE SEEING ALREADY A LOT
- 22:43 OF CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FLEEING
- 22:45 OUTSIDE OF EGYPT.
- 22:46 SOME OF THEM ARE BEING KILLED
- 22:48 AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ALSO
- 22:50 THAT THE CHRISTIANS
- 22:51 ARE THE MAIN PEOPLE OF EGYPT
- 22:55 AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF WEALTH,
- 22:57 THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY
- 22:58 AND THE MUSLIMS, TO TAKE CARE
- 23:02 OF THESE CHRISTIANS,
- 23:03 THEY TAKE THE MONEY,
- 23:04 THEY TAKE THE GIRLS,
- 23:06 THEY GET MARRIED TO THEM
- 23:07 AND THEY POOL THEM TO BE
- 23:09 A BABY FACTORY FOR THE MUSLIMS
- 23:12 AND, LIKE THIS,
- 23:14 THE CHRISTIAN ETHNIC GROUPS
- 23:16 WHO ARE IN EGYPT
- 23:18 ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED.
- 23:20 Katharine: WHAT CAN AMERICANS DO
- 23:21 TO BE MORE EDUCATED IN THIS?
- 23:26 Rachel: IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
- 23:28 VERY DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE
- 23:29 WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND
- 23:31 WHAT IS THE MUSLIM RELIGION.
- 23:35 AND IF YOU GO TO THE KORAN AND
- 23:37 YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE
- 23:39 TALKING ABOUT, THEY DON'T TAKE
- 23:41 NO CHRISTIANS AND NO JEWS,
- 23:42 LIKE, A FRIEND.
- 23:44 THE MORE YOU ARE
- 23:45 AN EXTREMIST ISLAMIC PERSON,
- 23:49 YOU GO THROUGH THE BOOK.
- 23:50 AND IF YOU GO THROUGH THE BOOK,
- 23:52 YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF
- 23:53 THE JEWISH AND THE CHRISTIANS.
- 23:55 AND LIKE THIS,
- 23:56 THEY ARE DOING, THEY ARE DOING
- 23:57 WHAT THE KORAN IS SAYING.
- 23:59 THERE IS SOME MUSLIMS WHO ARE
- 24:02 NOT EXACTLY WITH THE SAME WAY
- 24:05 WITH THIS ISLAMIC, BUT WHEN
- 24:06 YOU SEE THAT EGYPT, FOR EXAMPLE,
- 24:09 NOW HAS 75% EXTREMIST PEOPLE
- 24:13 ARE IN THE GOVERNMENT,
- 24:14 THEN YOU CAN SEE
- 24:15 WHERE EGYPT IS GOING.
- 24:18 Myles: THAT IS SUCH
- 24:19 AN INCREDIBLE INTERVIEW
- 24:20 THAT KATHARINE DID WITH RACHEL.
- 24:22 THE TIMES THAT WE'RE LIVING IN
- 24:25 REQUIRE THIS KIND OF INSIGHT
- 24:27 INTO WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND
- 24:29 THE SCENES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
- 24:30 WE CAN'T REALLY GET OUR NEWS
- 24:32 FROM THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
- 24:33 THE TIME WE FILMED THAT,
- 24:35 THERE HADN'T YET BEEN
- 24:36 THE ELECTION IN EGYPT
- 24:39 AND SHE WAS VERY PRESCIENT
- 24:40 IN THE WAY THAT SHE SPOKE ABOUT
- 24:41 WHAT WAS COMING AND WHAT'S
- 24:43 COME TO PASS, WHICH HAS BEEN
- 24:44 AN ELECTION THAT'S MADE
- 24:47 THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
- 24:48 RISE TO THE SURFACE.
- 24:49 SO WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
- 24:51 AN ARAB SPRING, AS I SAID,
- 24:53 HAS BECOME AN ARAB SPRINGBOARD
- 24:56 FOR THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
- 24:57 SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROVERSY
- 25:00 TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW ABOUT
- 25:01 WHAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO MEAN,
- 25:03 BUT THERE HAVE BEEN MANY VOICES
- 25:05 IN ISRAEL AND AMONG MESSIANICS
- 25:07 AND OTHERS IN THE WORLD SAYING
- 25:09 TO BE CAREFUL AND BE AWARE THAT
- 25:11 THIS MAY NOT BE WHAT
- 25:12 IT APPEARS TO BE.
- 25:13 THE WESTERN MEDIA ARE SPEAKING
- 25:15 IN GLOWING TERMS ABOUT
- 25:17 AN ARAB DEMOCRACY,
- 25:18 BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT WAY.
- 25:21 IT LOOKS AS THOUGH WE NEED
- 25:22 TO CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EYES
- 25:23 ON THE LORD, DOESN'T IT?
- 25:25 Katharine: YEAH, HEBREWS
- 25:26 TALKS ABOUT KEEPING YOUR EYES
- 25:28 ON THE LORD, "LOOKING UNTO JESUS
- 25:29 THE AUTHOR AND THE FINISHER
- 25:30 OF OUR FAITH."
- 25:32 AND SOMEHOW ABRAHAM IS MAKING IT
- 25:34 INTO THE NEW COVENANT AND I WANT
- 25:37 TO BRING THIS OUT, BECAUSE
- 25:38 EVEN IN THE MIDST OF THE MOST
- 25:40 WICKED CIRCUMSTANCE, THE LORD
- 25:41 WAS ABLE TO DELIVER LOT.
- 25:43 IT SAYS IN II PETER 2:7 THAT GOD
- 25:47 DELIVERED RIGHTEOUS LOT OUT OF
- 25:50 THE REALLY HARD CIRCUMSTANCE.
- 25:51 SO HE COULD TAKE OUR LIVES
- 25:53 AND DELIVER US IN
- 25:54 THE MOST DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCE,
- 25:56 MYLES, THAT WE ARE LIVING IN,
- 25:58 REALLY, TIMES
- 25:59 THAT ARE PERPLEXING.
- 26:00 Myles: THEY ARE.
- 26:01 THERE'S PERPLEXITY OF NATIONS.
- 26:02 SEEMS TO BE NO WAY OUT
- 26:04 FOR MANY PEOPLE.
- 26:05 THERE'S PRESSURE THAT'S COMING
- 26:06 ECONOMICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY,
- 26:08 SPIRITUALLY
- 26:09 AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING
- 26:10 HERE AND THERE FOR ANSWERS
- 26:11 AND FOR SOLUTIONS AND WE KNOW
- 26:13 THAT THE WRITER OF HEBREWS WAS,
- 26:14 IN FACT, CORRECT:
- 26:15 "LOOKING UNTO JESUS, THE AUTHOR
- 26:17 AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITH."
- 26:19 THAT IS WHERE OUR SOLUTION
- 26:20 COMES FROM.
- 26:21 Katharine: HEBREWS
- 26:23 IS THE BOOK THAT WE GO TO.
- 26:24 ANY OF THE QUESTIONS
- 26:25 THAT WE HAVE, OR IN GENESIS,
- 26:26 WE GO TO THE BOOK OF HEBREWS
- 26:27 AND HE ANSWERS THEM ALL, RIGHT?
- 26:28 Myles: RIGHT,
- 26:29 THEY'RE INTERPRETED THROUGH
- 26:30 A JEWISH PERSPECTIVE AND
- 26:32 SO WE GET TO SEE THE CONFLUENCE
- 26:33 BETWEEN THE OLD TESTAMENT
- 26:35 AND THE NEW TESTAMENT BECAUSE
- 26:37 THEY'RE PERFECTLY CONNECTED.
- 26:39 AND SO, AS WE GO TODAY,
- 26:41 WE WANT TO REMIND YOU,
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