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The Promised Son

Isaac is prophesied; conflict separates Abraham and Lot. Katharine interviews Rachael Lipkin, an Egyptian-born Jewish interpreter of Arabic-language media.

Air dates: 2012-Oct-21, 2014-Apr-27

Production Code: 1234

Episode 5 of 8 in the series “Abraham: Father of Faith”

Duration: 28:32

Year: 2012

Series code: DABE

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  • 00:00 (♪ Theme Music ♪)
  • 00:22 ( Speaking Hebrew )
  • 00:29 ♪ ♪
  • 00:48 Myles: SHALOM AND WELCOME TO
  • 00:49 ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS.
  • 00:50 I'M MYLES WEISS.
  • 00:51 Katharine: AND I'M
  • 00:52 KATHARINE WEISS AND WE WANT TO
  • 00:53 WELCOME YOU BACK TO OUR SERIES
  • 00:54 IN THE LIFE OF ABRAHAM.
  • 00:56 Myles: I KNOW; IT'S SO EXCITING
  • 00:57 TO SEE HOW THIS LIFE OF FAITH
  • 00:58 GETS PLAYED OUT FOR US BECAUSE
  • 01:00 IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO OURS.
  • 01:01 THERE'S A HISTORICAL,
  • 01:03 A PROPHETIC AND A PERSONAL
  • 01:04 MEANING THAT WE CAN DRAW
  • 01:06 OUT OF THE LIFE OF ABRAHAM.
  • 01:07 Katharine: WELL,
  • 01:08 IT'S VERY PERSONAL FOR THEM NOW.
  • 01:09 THEY'VE WAITED ALMOST 2 DECADES
  • 01:11 FROM THE FIRST PROMISE
  • 01:12 IN GENESIS 12,
  • 01:13 TO NOW, GOD IS COMING TO THEM,
  • 01:15 THE TWO ANGELS
  • 01:17 AND THE LORD HIMSELF.
  • 01:18 HE'S RECONFIRMING
  • 01:19 THE COVENANT PROMISE THAT
  • 01:20 HE'D HAVE, THAT SHE WOULD BE
  • 01:22 THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE THE SON
  • 01:24 AND IT WOULD BE BETWEEN
  • 01:25 ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.
  • 01:27 AND GOD IS SAYING,
  • 01:28 "THIS IS MY PLAN, NO EXTRAS."
  • 01:30 AND SO SARAH, YOU KNOW,
  • 01:33 IT'S GOD'S APPOINTED TIME,
  • 01:34 NOT OUR TIME,
  • 01:36 AND SOMETIMES THAT'S DIFFICULT.
  • 01:39 Myles: THERE'S A DISCREPANCY
  • 01:40 SOMETIMES BETWEEN WHAT GOD
  • 01:41 PROMISES AND THE TIMING HE HAS
  • 01:43 AND WHAT WE TRY TO MAKE HAPPEN
  • 01:45 IN THAT INSTANCE.
  • 01:46 THE SCRIPTURE TELLS US
  • 01:47 THAT HOPE DEFERRED
  • 01:48 MAKES THE HEART SICK,
  • 01:49 BUT WHEN THE DESIRE COMES,
  • 01:51 IT'S A TREE OF LIFE.
  • 01:52 AND WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE THAT
  • 01:53 HERE IN GENESIS 18 AND 19.
  • 01:56 LET'S GO TO OUR DRAMA AS WE SEE
  • 01:57 ABRAHAM AND SARAH RECEIVE THEIR
  • 01:59 VISITORS IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY.
  • 02:05 Narrator: AND THE LORD
  • 02:06 APPEARED UNTO ABRAHAM
  • 02:07 IN THE PLAINS OF MAMRE.
  • 02:38 ( Speaking Hebrew )
  • 03:30 ( Sarah Laughing )
  • 03:36 ( Speaking Hebrew )
  • 03:56 Myles: WHEN YOU COME TO ISRAEL,
  • 03:57 YOU'LL EXPERIENCE THAT
  • 03:58 VERY HOSPITALITY THAT
  • 03:59 WE SEE ABRAHAM EXEMPLIFYING
  • 04:01 WITH THESE STRANGERS THAT COME.
  • 04:03 THREE MEN APPEAR.
  • 04:04 "MEN" APPEAR.
  • 04:06 WHAT WE REALLY ARE SEEING
  • 04:07 ARE TWO ANGELS AND A THEOPHANY,
  • 04:09 THE PRESENCE
  • 04:10 OF THE LORD HIMSELF
  • 04:11 AT THE FRONT OF ABRAHAM'S TENT.
  • 04:13 WE KNOW THIS IS A THEOPHANY.
  • 04:14 HE'S DIFFERENT
  • 04:15 FROM THE OTHER TWO.
  • 04:16 THE OTHER TWO WILL BE GOING ON
  • 04:17 TO SODOM TO TAKE CARE
  • 04:19 OF SOME KIND OF BUSINESS THERE,
  • 04:21 BUT THIS ONE STAYS WITH ABRAHAM.
  • 04:23 AND ABRAHAM RUSHES TO CREATE
  • 04:27 A COVENANT MEAL WITH THEM.
  • 04:28 THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART
  • 04:29 OF THE STORY OF COVENANT.
  • 04:31 THERE'S ALWAYS
  • 04:32 A SHARED TIME OF FOOD.
  • 04:33 THERE'S ALWAYS
  • 04:34 A SHARED TIME OF HOSPITALITY.
  • 04:35 IT REMINDS ME OF JESUS
  • 04:37 MAKING THE LAST SUPPER
  • 04:38 WITH HIS DISCIPLES
  • 04:40 OR PREPARING FISH
  • 04:42 FOR THE FISHERMEN ON THE SHORE
  • 04:44 AFTER HIS RESURRECTION.
  • 04:45 THERE'S A WAY THAT
  • 04:46 THERE'S SOMETHING AROUND
  • 04:47 THE BREAKING OF BREAD
  • 04:48 THAT BRINGS US TOGETHER
  • 04:49 AND RATIFIES OR TOUCHES
  • 04:51 THE REALITY OF COVENANT.
  • 04:53 THAT'S WHAT WE SEE HERE
  • 04:54 WITH THIS APPEARANCE
  • 04:56 OF THE LORD AND THE TWO ANGELS.
  • 04:57 IT'S INTERESTING
  • 04:58 THAT THIS CENTER MAN, THIS ONE,
  • 05:00 APPEARS BETWEEN
  • 05:02 THE TWO ANGELS,
  • 05:03 OR COMES WITH TWO ANGELS.
  • 05:04 SCRIPTURE TELLS US ABOUT GOD
  • 05:05 THAT HE DWELLS
  • 05:07 BETWEEN THE TWO CHERUBIM
  • 05:08 AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE HERE.
  • 05:10 ABRAHAM IS ENCOUNTERING THESE
  • 05:13 ANGELS AND THE LORD HIMSELF
  • 05:15 IN THE MIDST OF
  • 05:16 THE PAIN OF CIRCUMCISION,
  • 05:17 IN THE MIDST OF THIS
  • 05:18 INCREDIBLE HARSH ENVIRONMENT
  • 05:19 HE IS GIVEN TO HOSPITALITY
  • 05:21 WHICH IS A HEARTBEAT
  • 05:23 OF THE CULTURE HERE.
  • 05:24 THE VISITOR DOESN'T INQUIRE
  • 05:25 ABOUT SARAH'S PRESENCE,
  • 05:27 WHERE SHE IS.
  • 05:28 SHE'S IN THE TENT AND THE LORD
  • 05:29 HIMSELF SAYS THAT SHE WILL BEAR
  • 05:31 A CHILD AND IT MAKES HER LAUGH.
  • 05:33 IT DRIVES THEM JUST OVER THE
  • 05:34 EDGE TO THINK THAT THEY, BEING
  • 05:36 PAST THE AGE OF CHILDBEARING,
  • 05:38 ARE GOING TO BEAR A CHILD
  • 05:40 AND HE SAYS WITHIN A YEAR
  • 05:41 HE'LL RETURN AND THERE WILL BE
  • 05:43 A CHILD FOR THEM.
  • 05:45 AND THE LAUGHTER BECOMES
  • 05:46 THE NAME OF THIS PROMISED SON
  • 05:48 "YITZCHAK," "LAUGHTER."
  • 05:49 I THINK HERE IS ONE
  • 05:51 OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TAKEAWAYS
  • 05:52 FROM THIS SECTION OF THE STORY.
  • 05:54 THE WORD COMES, "IS ANYTHING
  • 05:57 TOO HARD FOR THE LORD?"
  • 05:59 AND I WANT YOU TO HEAR
  • 06:00 THAT WORD TODAY.
  • 06:01 I WANT YOU TO APPLY THAT
  • 06:02 TO YOUR OWN LIFE.
  • 06:03 I WANT TO APPLY IT TO MY OWN.
  • 06:04 IS ANYTHING TOO HARD
  • 06:06 FOR THE LORD?
  • 06:07 HE IS THE GOD OF MIRACLES,
  • 06:08 HE'S THE GOD OF SECOND CHANCES,
  • 06:10 HE'S THE GOD OF THE PROMISE
  • 06:12 AND THAT'S WHAT THE WORD IS
  • 06:13 THAT COMES TO THEM HERE.
  • 06:14 IS ANYTHING TOO HARD
  • 06:15 FOR THE LORD?
  • 06:16 THAT WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE
  • 06:17 WITH MAN IS POSSIBLE WITH GOD.
  • 06:20 AND SO AS THE STORY UNFOLDS,
  • 06:22 WE REALLY BEGIN TO SEE THAT
  • 06:24 WHEN GOD MAKES THE COVENANT,
  • 06:26 HE FULFILLS HIS WORD.
  • 06:27 THERE'S SUCH A DIFFERENCE
  • 06:28 BETWEEN WHO ABRAHAM WAS
  • 06:30 BEFORE THE COVENANT CUTTING
  • 06:32 AND THE CIRCUMCISION
  • 06:34 AND WHO HE IS AFTER.
  • 06:35 BEFORE, HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE
  • 06:36 THINGS HAPPEN IN THE NATURAL,
  • 06:38 WITH NO POSSIBLE GOOD EFFECT.
  • 06:40 BUT, AFTERWARDS,
  • 06:42 HE BECOMES ONE WHO IS
  • 06:43 DEPENDENT ON THE GLORY OF GOD,
  • 06:45 THE MIRACLE-WORKING POWER
  • 06:47 OF GOD AND THE BLESSING OF GOD.
  • 06:49 AND WE SEE THAT UNFOLDING.
  • 06:50 I WANT YOU ALSO TO GRAB HOLD OF
  • 06:53 THAT TODAY, THAT GOD IS FOR YOU;
  • 06:55 THERE IS NOTHING
  • 06:56 THAT IS TOO HARD FOR OUR GOD.
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  • 07:37 Narrator: THEY HAD
  • 07:38 GOOD REASON TO LAUGH.
  • 07:40 BOTH ABRAHAM AND SARAH
  • 07:41 HAD BEEN INFORMED BY THE LORD
  • 07:43 THAT THEY WERE GOING TO
  • 07:45 GIVE BIRTH TO A SON,
  • 07:47 EVEN IN THEIR LATER YEARS.
  • 07:52 BUT THE LORD'S MESSAGE FOR
  • 07:53 SODOM WAS ANYTHING BUT GOOD.
  • 08:01 ( Speaking Hebrew )
  • 08:58 Myles: WE'RE IN THE AREA
  • 08:59 OF THE DEAD SEA
  • 09:01 WHERE SODOM AND GOMORRAH
  • 09:02 NO DOUBT WERE EXISTING
  • 09:03 AT THE TIME OF ABRAHAM.
  • 09:05 YOU KNOW, THE JUDGMENTS OF GOD
  • 09:08 ARE REALLY DIFFICULT
  • 09:09 TO UNDERSTAND AND WE LIKE
  • 09:10 TO THINK OF GOD AS LOVING ONLY
  • 09:12 AND THAT HE WOULDN'T JUDGE.
  • 09:13 THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WHEN
  • 09:15 THE JUDGMENTS OF GOD COME,
  • 09:16 HE MAKES A PROVISION,
  • 09:17 A WAY OF ESCAPE
  • 09:19 THAT'S PICTURED IN THIS STORY.
  • 09:20 ABRAHAM IS GOING TO BE SEEN NOW
  • 09:23 IN HIS ROLE AS AN INTERCESSOR,
  • 09:25 VERY IMPORTANT INSTRUCTION
  • 09:27 FOR US AND THE NEW TESTAMENT
  • 09:28 BELIEVERS, BECAUSE THE ROLE
  • 09:30 OF INTERCESSION IS REALLY ABOUT
  • 09:32 RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
  • 09:33 IN FACT, THE WAY GOD SPEAKS
  • 09:35 OF IT IN VERSE 17, HE SAYS,
  • 09:38 ( Speaking Hebrew )
  • 09:44 THE LORD SAID:
  • 09:48 THEY ARE SO CLOSE,
  • 09:50 THEY ARE SO KNOWN
  • 09:51 ONE OF ANOTHER
  • 09:53 THAT GOD'S TESTIMONY OF ABRAHAM,
  • 09:55 HIS FRIEND, IS,
  • 09:56 "I DON'T EVEN HIDE FROM HIM
  • 09:57 THAT WHICH I'M DOING."
  • 09:58 I WANT TO WALK WITH GOD
  • 09:59 IN THAT WAY.
  • 10:00 SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING DEVELOP
  • 10:01 HERE IS THIS RELATIONSHIP WHERE
  • 10:05 WHAT'S UNFOLDING IS THE REALITY
  • 10:07 THAT GOD CAN TRUST ABRAHAM
  • 10:09 AND ABRAHAM CAN TRUST GOD.
  • 10:11 IT'S A GENUINE RELATIONSHIP.
  • 10:13 IT REMINDS ME OF JOHN 15
  • 10:14 IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WHERE
  • 10:16 JESUS SAID TO HIS DISCIPLES:
  • 10:21 WHY? WHEN?
  • 10:23 "WHEN YOU DO THAT
  • 10:24 WHICH I COMMAND YOU."
  • 10:25 I WANT TO WALK WITH THE LORD
  • 10:26 IN SUCH A WAY
  • 10:27 THAT HE CAN CALL ME HIS FRIEND.
  • 10:29 WELL, THE ROLE OF INTERCESSION
  • 10:30 IS VERY, VERY POWERFUL.
  • 10:32 IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
  • 10:33 IT REALLY IS
  • 10:34 FOR EVERY SINGLE BELIEVER
  • 10:36 IN THE NEW TESTAMENT ERA.
  • 10:38 WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND
  • 10:39 THAT WE CAN AFFECT THE WAY
  • 10:41 THE WORLD UNFOLDS.
  • 10:43 WE CAN AFFECT THE HISTORY
  • 10:44 AND THE DESTINY OF PEOPLE
  • 10:46 THROUGH OUR PRAYER.
  • 10:48 IT'S GOD'S GIFT TO US,
  • 10:50 INTERCESSION.
  • 10:52 IT'S REALLY A POWER
  • 10:53 THAT'S GIVEN TO US BY GOD.
  • 10:55 IT'S A WAY THAT HE ESTEEMS
  • 10:57 OUR OPINION.
  • 10:58 HE INCLUDES US IN THE PROCESS
  • 11:00 OF WHAT HE DOES.
  • 11:02 AND WE LEARN FROM INTERCESSION,
  • 11:03 FROM PRAYER,
  • 11:04 THAT HE ACTUALLY HEARS US.
  • 11:05 AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE
  • 11:06 WITH ABRAHAM.
  • 11:07 ABRAHAM ACTUALLY BEGINS
  • 11:08 TO BARGAIN WITH GOD ABOUT THE
  • 11:10 FUTURE OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH.
  • 11:12 "IF THERE ARE 50 RIGHTEOUS,
  • 11:14 WILL YOU SPARE THEM?"
  • 11:15 AND HE WORKS HIS WAY DOWN TO 10.
  • 11:17 "IF THERE ARE 10 RIGHTEOUS,
  • 11:18 WOULD YOU SPARE THEM?"
  • 11:20 YOU KNOW, THE RABBIS SAY
  • 11:21 THAT THAT'S THE BASIS
  • 11:22 OF THE MODERN "TEN-MAN MINION."
  • 11:24 THE REASON WHY THERE'S
  • 11:25 A TEN-MAN REQUIREMENT IN JUDAISM
  • 11:28 FOR A PRAYER MEETING,
  • 11:29 IS BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS
  • 11:32 OF THE TEN RIGHTEOUS
  • 11:34 THAT ARE BEING LOOKED FOR
  • 11:35 BY ABRAHAM AND GOD TOGETHER.
  • 11:38 WE KNOW FOR US,
  • 11:39 AS BELIEVERS IN YESHUA,
  • 11:41 WHEREVER TWO OR MORE
  • 11:42 ARE GATHERED IN HIS NAME,
  • 11:43 HE'S THERE.
  • 11:44 BUT THAT TEN-MAN MINION
  • 11:46 IS STILL A TRADITION
  • 11:47 IN PRESENT-DAY JUDAISM
  • 11:49 BASED ON THIS STORY
  • 11:50 FROM SODOM AND GOMORRAH.
  • 11:52 THIS IS REALLY A STORY
  • 11:54 OF RELATIONSHIP AND WE SEE THIS
  • 11:56 OVER AND OVER AGAIN
  • 11:57 AS ABRAHAM IS TALKING TO GOD,
  • 12:00 GOD IS TALKING TO HIM AND
  • 12:02 THEY'RE SPEAKING FACE TO FACE,
  • 12:03 FRIEND TO FRIEND.
  • 12:04 IT'S LIKE THE INTERCESSORS
  • 12:06 IN THE OLD TESTAMENT;
  • 12:07 MOSES STANDING IN FOR ISRAEL,
  • 12:09 ELIJAH INTERCEDING
  • 12:10 FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL,
  • 12:12 AND NOW, FOR YOU AND I,
  • 12:14 WE ARE ALL TO STAND IN FOR
  • 12:16 OUR FRIENDS, FOR OUR FAMILIES,
  • 12:18 AND I WOULD SAY,
  • 12:19 FOR THE NATION OF ISRAEL.
  • 12:21 I WANT TO CALL ON YOU
  • 12:23 TO STAND WITH ME AS WE PRAY
  • 12:26 FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM,
  • 12:27 AS WE STAND IN, IN INTERCESSION,
  • 12:30 FOR THE FUTURE
  • 12:31 OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE
  • 12:32 AND THE NATION OF ISRAEL.
  • 12:36 ♪ ♪
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  • 13:09 Katharine: ISRAEL IT'S THE LAND
  • 13:10 OF COVENANTS, IT'S THE LAND
  • 13:12 OF PROMISE, IT'S THE HOLY LAND.
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  • 13:25 THERE'S A SPECIAL BLESSING
  • 13:27 AS YOU SET YOUR HEART
  • 13:28 TO GO TO ISRAEL.
  • 13:29 GOD REALLY DOES SOMETHING
  • 13:30 AMAZING.
  • 13:31 Myles: IT'S TRUE; I HEAR
  • 13:32 THAT FEEDBACK ALL THE TIME
  • 13:33 FROM OUR GUESTS.
  • 13:35 AND EVERY TIME WE GO, THERE'S
  • 13:36 SOMETHING NEW FROM THE WORD,
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  • 14:14 AND, REALLY, ON OUR LIVES
  • 14:15 AS WE LEARN FROM THEM.
  • 14:17 YOU KNOW, AS THE STORY
  • 14:18 OF ABRAHAM UNFOLDS,
  • 14:20 IT'S JUST SO AMAZING THAT WE GET
  • 14:23 TO PARTAKE OF HIS WALK OF FAITH
  • 14:25 AND REALLY SEE HOW
  • 14:27 THE UPS AND DOWNS, EVEN THOUGH
  • 14:29 THEY AFFECT MAN AND WOMAN,
  • 14:31 GOD ALWAYS COMES THROUGH.
  • 14:32 Katharine: ABRAHAM WAS SET APART
  • 14:34 SO HE COULD STEP IN,
  • 14:35 SO HE COULD BE THAT INTERCESSOR
  • 14:38 TO INTERCEDE FOR LOT
  • 14:39 AND HIS FAMILY.
  • 14:41 AND GOD RESCUED LOT
  • 14:42 AND HIS FAMILY.
  • 14:43 THOSE THAT WERE WILLING.
  • 14:44 Myles: RIGHT, AND GOD CALLS HIM
  • 14:46 A PATRIARCH, CALLS HIM A PROPHET
  • 14:47 AND THEN CALLS ABRAHAM
  • 14:48 "MY FRIEND."
  • 14:49 Katharine: RIGHT.
  • 14:50 Myles: AND HE SPEAKS TO HIM
  • 14:51 ABOUT HOW HE'S GOING TO
  • 14:52 TELL HIM BEFOREHAND
  • 14:54 THESE THINGS THAT ARE COMING
  • 14:55 AND HE REALLY DOES TRY
  • 14:56 TO RESCUE LOT AND HIS FAMILY.
  • 14:57 HE MAKES THE PROVISION,
  • 14:59 AND WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE
  • 15:01 HOW THAT PLAYS OUT,
  • 15:02 BUT GOD ALWAYS MAKES A PROVISION
  • 15:05 AND WE REALLY SEE THAT
  • 15:06 IN THESE VERSES, IN THIS DRAMA.
  • 15:08 SO LET'S RETURN TO OUR STORY
  • 15:10 AS WE SEE LOT AND HIS FAMILY
  • 15:12 DEALING WITH THE JUDGMENT
  • 15:14 COMING ON SODOM.
  • 15:21 Narrator: AND THERE CAME
  • 15:22 TWO ANGELS TO SODOM AND SAID
  • 15:24 UNTO LOT, "HAST THOU FAMILY
  • 15:26 HERE IN SODOM?
  • 15:28 IF SO, TAKE THEM FROM THE CITY,
  • 15:30 FOR THE LORD HAS SENT US
  • 15:32 TO DESTROY IT."
  • 15:34 AND LOT WARNED HIS SONS-IN-LAW
  • 15:36 OF THE PENDING DESTRUCTION
  • 15:38 BUT THEY WOULDN'T LISTEN.
  • 15:49 ( Speaking Hebrew )
  • 17:00 Myles: GOD HAS WARNED
  • 17:01 ABRAHAM AND LOT
  • 17:02 ABOUT THE IMPENDING JUDGMENT.
  • 17:04 YOU KNOW, HE WARNED NOAH.
  • 17:06 HE WARNS US
  • 17:07 ABOUT JUDGMENT TO COME.
  • 17:08 I THINK ABOUT NEW TESTAMENT
  • 17:09 BELIEVERS, THAT WE'VE BEEN
  • 17:11 WARNED, THAT WE NEED TO BE
  • 17:12 LOOKING FOR THAT BLESSED HOPE
  • 17:15 BECAUSE WHEN JUDGMENT
  • 17:16 COMES IN THE EARTH, WE COULD
  • 17:17 BE TAKEN UP BY RAPTURE,
  • 17:19 BEFORE THE JUDGMENT COMES.
  • 17:20 Katharine: AND GOD WORKS
  • 17:21 WITH ABRAHAM
  • 17:22 AS HE DOES WITH A FRIEND.
  • 17:24 IN THE INTERCESSION,
  • 17:25 THE ANGEL ACTUALLY WENT
  • 17:27 AND GRABBED HOLD OF LOT
  • 17:29 AND HIS WIFE.
  • 17:30 THERE WAS EVEN A HALTING
  • 17:31 AT THAT MOMENT,
  • 17:33 AND IT IS THE ANGEL OF THE LORD
  • 17:34 THAT CAUSED THEM
  • 17:35 TO MOVE FORWARD.
  • 17:36 AND LOT'S WIFE MUST HAVE HAD
  • 17:39 SOMETHING IN HER HEART THAT
  • 17:40 WAS NOT ABLE TO RISE UP AND GO,
  • 17:43 LIKE SARAH WAS WITH ABRAHAM,
  • 17:46 BECAUSE SHE GOT PARTWAY OUT
  • 17:48 AND EVEN THOUGH DESTRUCTION
  • 17:49 WAS COMING, SHE LOOKED BACK.
  • 17:51 Myles: SHE DID, AND THERE WAS
  • 17:52 A WARNING NOT TO LOOK BACK.
  • 17:53 PEOPLE QUESTION THE SCIENCE
  • 17:54 OF THIS THING, BUT I REMEMBER
  • 17:56 GROWING UP AND SEEING
  • 17:57 A NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC SPREAD
  • 17:59 ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF POMPEII
  • 18:02 IN ITALY IN 79 A.D.
  • 18:04 AND IN AN INSTANT,
  • 18:06 PEOPLE WERE FROZEN IN THE ACT
  • 18:08 OF LIVING THEIR LIVES,
  • 18:09 JUST AS IF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE
  • 18:11 HAD COME FROM HEAVEN.
  • 18:12 IT CAME OUT OF A VOLCANO
  • 18:13 AND THEY WERE FROZEN IN TIME.
  • 18:15 SO I BELIEVE IT'S VERY REAL,
  • 18:17 SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN.
  • 18:18 IN FACT, JOSEPHUS SAYS THAT
  • 18:21 HE HAD SEEN THE PILLAR OF SALT
  • 18:24 THAT WAS ALLEGEDLY LOT'S WIFE
  • 18:26 SOMEWHERE IN THIS AREA.
  • 18:27 SO IT'S SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE
  • 18:30 THAT THIS HAPPENED THE WAY
  • 18:31 THE SCRIPTURE TELLS IT AND
  • 18:33 WE DON'T NEED TO QUESTION THAT,
  • 18:34 BECAUSE IT REALLY IS THE WAY
  • 18:36 GOD WAS BRINGING JUDGMENT
  • 18:38 IN THAT DAY.
  • 18:39 REALLY THE QUESTION FOR US IS
  • 18:40 WHAT ARE WE LOOKING BACK TO?
  • 18:42 LET'S NOT LOOK BACK.
  • 18:43 LET'S GO FORWARD WITH THE LORD.
  • 18:45 Katharine: AND MAKE OUR PURSUIT
  • 18:46 OF HIM WHO'S PURSUING US.
  • 18:48 EVEN THOUGH LOT HAD PITCHED
  • 18:50 HIS TENT WHERE THE WORLD WAS,
  • 18:52 WHERE DESTRUCTION WAS,
  • 18:54 YOU SEE, THE MERCY OF GOD,
  • 18:55 INTERVENING IN HIS LIFE
  • 18:57 AND HIS FAMILY'S LIVES.
  • 19:00 LOT REALLY COOPERATED.
  • 19:02 THE SCRIPTURE EVEN SAYS
  • 19:03 IN PETER, "RIGHTEOUS LOT."
  • 19:05 I DON'T HOW THAT WORKS OUT,
  • 19:06 BUT GOD DOES,
  • 19:07 AND HE'S SO MERCIFUL.
  • 19:09 Myles: YES, IT'S INTERESTING,
  • 19:10 BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS,
  • 19:11 "IN JUDGMENT, REMEMBER MERCY"
  • 19:12 AND I THINK WE SEE THAT
  • 19:13 WITH PETER'S TESTIMONY
  • 19:15 ABOUT RIGHTEOUS LOT,
  • 19:16 THAT GOD IS MERCIFUL
  • 19:17 IN THE MIDST OF JUDGMENT.
  • 19:18 HE MAKES A WAY OF ESCAPE FOR US
  • 19:21 AS HE DID FOR THEM.
  • 19:22 AMOS 3:7 SAYS, THAT HE
  • 19:24 WILL NOT HIDE WHAT HE IS DOING
  • 19:26 FROM HIS SERVANTS, THE PROPHETS,
  • 19:28 AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT
  • 19:29 THAT ABRAHAM WAS NOT ONLY
  • 19:31 A PATRIARCH BUT HE WAS ALSO
  • 19:32 A PROPHET AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING
  • 19:34 HERE IN THIS INCREDIBLE STORY
  • 19:36 OF JUDGMENT, ESCAPE
  • 19:38 AND THE AMAZING DRAMA OF THIS
  • 19:41 IS THAT ALWAYS GOD IS SOVEREIGN.
  • 19:43 HE'S ALWAYS WANTING THE BEST
  • 19:44 FOR YOU AND FOR ME
  • 19:45 AND HE'S ALWAYS WANTING
  • 19:46 TO MAKE A WAY FOR US
  • 19:48 THROUGH THE TIMES OF JUDGMENT.
  • 19:56 Katharine: MYLES, YOUR TEACHING
  • 19:57 ABOUT JUDGMENT AND HOW SCIENCE
  • 20:00 HAS ESTABLISHED THAT
  • 20:01 IT WAS ACTUALLY A REALITY.
  • 20:02 Myles: POSSIBLY,
  • 20:03 THE WAY IT HAPPENED IN ITALY
  • 20:05 AND THEN WE SEE IT
  • 20:06 IN THE SCRIPTURES.
  • 20:07 AND YET WE SEE GOD'S MERCY
  • 20:08 ALWAYS REACHING FOR MANKIND
  • 20:11 AND THAT'S REALLY THE THEME
  • 20:12 OF THAT PART OF THE STORY,
  • 20:13 ISN'T IT, THAT GOD
  • 20:14 WAS MAKING A WAY WHERE
  • 20:16 THERE SEEMED TO BE NO WAY.
  • 20:17 I THINK ABOUT TODAY
  • 20:18 IN TODAY'S TIMES, WE HAVE SUCH
  • 20:20 MISINFORMATION COMING TO YOU
  • 20:22 THROUGH THE AIRWAVES
  • 20:23 AND OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST
  • 20:25 AND ONE OF OUR GREAT FRIENDS
  • 20:26 IN THE MINISTRY
  • 20:27 IS AVI AND RACHEL LIPKIN.
  • 20:29 RACHAEL WAS BORN IN EGYPT.
  • 20:31 SHE IS AN EGYPTIAN JEW AND SHE'S
  • 20:34 ABLE TO INTERPRET THE ARAB MEDIA
  • 20:36 FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL
  • 20:38 AND FOR YOU AND ME, SO WE GET
  • 20:39 TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING SAID
  • 20:41 IN ARABIC AMONGST THEMSELVES,
  • 20:43 VERSUS WHAT'S BEING SAID FOR
  • 20:45 OUR CONSUMPTION IN THE WEST,
  • 20:46 IN ENGLISH.
  • 20:47 KATHARINE WAS ABLE TO
  • 20:48 INTERVIEW HER, AND SO LET'S GO
  • 20:50 TO KATHARINE'S INTERVIEW
  • 20:51 WITH RACHEL LIPKIN.
  • 20:55 Katharine: RACHEL,
  • 20:56 I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW ARABIC,
  • 20:57 SO YOU ARE ABLE TO DECIPHER
  • 20:58 WHAT THE NEWS IS NOT PICKING UP.
  • 21:00 TELL US A LITTLE BIT
  • 21:01 ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING.
  • 21:03 Rachel: OKAY, I AM WORKING
  • 21:04 FOR THE RADIO AUTHORITY
  • 21:06 ALREADY MORE THAN 35 YEARS
  • 21:09 AND MY FIRST LANGUAGE IS ARABIC,
  • 21:13 LIKE, I KNOW ENGLISH,
  • 21:14 I KNOW FRENCH AND
  • 21:16 I CAN UNDERSTAND SPANISH TOO.
  • 21:19 FOR ME, I WENT THROUGH SO MUCH
  • 21:21 IN THE AUTHORITY RADIO,
  • 21:24 AND, IN THE END,
  • 21:25 I GOT TO A POINT THAT
  • 21:26 THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK
  • 21:28 THAT I COULD DO IS TO LISTEN
  • 21:30 TO THE ARABS' COMMUNICATION,
  • 21:33 LIKE RADIO, TV, CABLE,
  • 21:35 EVERYTHING, AND HEAR ABOUT
  • 21:37 WHAT THEY SAY, REALLY,
  • 21:39 WITH THEIR OWN WORDS.
  • 21:42 I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING
  • 21:43 TO THE WEST ARE NOT THE SAME
  • 21:46 WHAT THEY ARE TALKING
  • 21:47 TO THE ARAB COUNTRIES.
  • 21:48 THIS ACTIVITY
  • 21:50 OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERS
  • 21:51 ARE ALREADY A LONG TIME AGO,
  • 21:54 AND WE KNEW THAT THIS IS NOT
  • 21:58 AN ISSUE OF A VERY SHORT TIME.
  • 22:02 Katharine: YOU WERE IN EGYPT.
  • 22:03 YOUR FATHER WAS THROWN IN JAIL
  • 22:05 FOR THE SIMPLE FACT
  • 22:06 OF BEING A JEW.
  • 22:07 Rachel: EXACTLY; NOT ONLY HIM,
  • 22:08 BUT ALL THE JEWS WERE CAPTURED,
  • 22:10 MEN AND BOYS, PUT IN PRISONS.
  • 22:12 Katharine: AND NOW IT'S
  • 22:13 ACCELERATING EVEN BEYOND SUCH,
  • 22:15 SINCE THE SPRING
  • 22:17 OF THE UPRISING.
  • 22:18 Rachel: UPRISING, YES, BUT YOU
  • 22:20 HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS,
  • 22:21 LIKE, THE FIRST STEP IS TO
  • 22:23 TAKE CARE OF THE JEWS IN EGYPT,
  • 22:25 AND NOW THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF
  • 22:28 THE CHRISTIANS.
  • 22:29 YOU KNOW THAT THE LAST
  • 22:30 FEW MONTHS AND YEAR,
  • 22:32 THEY ARE AGAINST THE CHRISTIANS
  • 22:34 VERY OPENLY AND NOBODY,
  • 22:36 NOBODY CAN TAKE CARE OF THEM.
  • 22:38 WE ARE SEEING ALREADY A LOT
  • 22:42 OF CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FLEEING
  • 22:44 OUTSIDE OF EGYPT.
  • 22:45 SOME OF THEM ARE BEING KILLED
  • 22:47 AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ALSO
  • 22:49 THAT THE CHRISTIANS
  • 22:50 ARE THE MAIN PEOPLE OF EGYPT
  • 22:54 AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF WEALTH,
  • 22:56 THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY
  • 22:57 AND THE MUSLIMS, TO TAKE CARE
  • 23:01 OF THESE CHRISTIANS,
  • 23:02 THEY TAKE THE MONEY,
  • 23:03 THEY TAKE THE GIRLS,
  • 23:05 THEY GET MARRIED TO THEM
  • 23:06 AND THEY POOL THEM TO BE
  • 23:08 A BABY FACTORY FOR THE MUSLIMS
  • 23:11 AND, LIKE THIS,
  • 23:13 THE CHRISTIAN ETHNIC GROUPS
  • 23:15 WHO ARE IN EGYPT
  • 23:17 ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED.
  • 23:19 Katharine: WHAT CAN AMERICANS DO
  • 23:20 TO BE MORE EDUCATED IN THIS?
  • 23:25 Rachel: IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
  • 23:27 VERY DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE
  • 23:28 WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND
  • 23:30 WHAT IS THE MUSLIM RELIGION.
  • 23:34 AND IF YOU GO TO THE KORAN AND
  • 23:36 YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE
  • 23:38 TALKING ABOUT, THEY DON'T TAKE
  • 23:40 NO CHRISTIANS AND NO JEWS,
  • 23:41 LIKE, A FRIEND.
  • 23:43 THE MORE YOU ARE
  • 23:44 AN EXTREMIST ISLAMIC PERSON,
  • 23:48 YOU GO THROUGH THE BOOK.
  • 23:49 AND IF YOU GO THROUGH THE BOOK,
  • 23:51 YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF
  • 23:52 THE JEWISH AND THE CHRISTIANS.
  • 23:54 AND LIKE THIS,
  • 23:55 THEY ARE DOING, THEY ARE DOING
  • 23:56 WHAT THE KORAN IS SAYING.
  • 23:58 THERE IS SOME MUSLIMS WHO ARE
  • 24:01 NOT EXACTLY WITH THE SAME WAY
  • 24:04 WITH THIS ISLAMIC, BUT WHEN
  • 24:05 YOU SEE THAT EGYPT, FOR EXAMPLE,
  • 24:08 NOW HAS 75% EXTREMIST PEOPLE
  • 24:12 ARE IN THE GOVERNMENT,
  • 24:13 THEN YOU CAN SEE
  • 24:14 WHERE EGYPT IS GOING.
  • 24:17 Myles: THAT IS SUCH
  • 24:18 AN INCREDIBLE INTERVIEW
  • 24:19 THAT KATHARINE DID WITH RACHEL.
  • 24:21 THE TIMES THAT WE'RE LIVING IN
  • 24:24 REQUIRE THIS KIND OF INSIGHT
  • 24:26 INTO WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND
  • 24:28 THE SCENES IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
  • 24:29 WE CAN'T REALLY GET OUR NEWS
  • 24:31 FROM THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
  • 24:32 THE TIME WE FILMED THAT,
  • 24:34 THERE HADN'T YET BEEN
  • 24:35 THE ELECTION IN EGYPT
  • 24:38 AND SHE WAS VERY PRESCIENT
  • 24:39 IN THE WAY THAT SHE SPOKE ABOUT
  • 24:40 WHAT WAS COMING AND WHAT'S
  • 24:42 COME TO PASS, WHICH HAS BEEN
  • 24:43 AN ELECTION THAT'S MADE
  • 24:46 THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
  • 24:47 RISE TO THE SURFACE.
  • 24:48 SO WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
  • 24:50 AN ARAB SPRING, AS I SAID,
  • 24:52 HAS BECOME AN ARAB SPRINGBOARD
  • 24:55 FOR THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
  • 24:56 SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROVERSY
  • 24:59 TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW ABOUT
  • 25:00 WHAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO MEAN,
  • 25:02 BUT THERE HAVE BEEN MANY VOICES
  • 25:04 IN ISRAEL AND AMONG MESSIANICS
  • 25:06 AND OTHERS IN THE WORLD SAYING
  • 25:08 TO BE CAREFUL AND BE AWARE THAT
  • 25:10 THIS MAY NOT BE WHAT
  • 25:11 IT APPEARS TO BE.
  • 25:12 THE WESTERN MEDIA ARE SPEAKING
  • 25:14 IN GLOWING TERMS ABOUT
  • 25:16 AN ARAB DEMOCRACY,
  • 25:17 BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT WAY.
  • 25:20 IT LOOKS AS THOUGH WE NEED
  • 25:21 TO CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EYES
  • 25:22 ON THE LORD, DOESN'T IT?
  • 25:24 Katharine: YEAH, HEBREWS
  • 25:25 TALKS ABOUT KEEPING YOUR EYES
  • 25:27 ON THE LORD, "LOOKING UNTO JESUS
  • 25:28 THE AUTHOR AND THE FINISHER
  • 25:29 OF OUR FAITH."
  • 25:31 AND SOMEHOW ABRAHAM IS MAKING IT
  • 25:33 INTO THE NEW COVENANT AND I WANT
  • 25:36 TO BRING THIS OUT, BECAUSE
  • 25:37 EVEN IN THE MIDST OF THE MOST
  • 25:39 WICKED CIRCUMSTANCE, THE LORD
  • 25:40 WAS ABLE TO DELIVER LOT.
  • 25:42 IT SAYS IN II PETER 2:7 THAT GOD
  • 25:46 DELIVERED RIGHTEOUS LOT OUT OF
  • 25:49 THE REALLY HARD CIRCUMSTANCE.
  • 25:50 SO HE COULD TAKE OUR LIVES
  • 25:52 AND DELIVER US IN
  • 25:53 THE MOST DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCE,
  • 25:55 MYLES, THAT WE ARE LIVING IN,
  • 25:57 REALLY, TIMES
  • 25:58 THAT ARE PERPLEXING.
  • 25:59 Myles: THEY ARE.
  • 26:00 THERE'S PERPLEXITY OF NATIONS.
  • 26:01 SEEMS TO BE NO WAY OUT
  • 26:03 FOR MANY PEOPLE.
  • 26:04 THERE'S PRESSURE THAT'S COMING
  • 26:05 ECONOMICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY,
  • 26:07 SPIRITUALLY
  • 26:08 AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING
  • 26:09 HERE AND THERE FOR ANSWERS
  • 26:10 AND FOR SOLUTIONS AND WE KNOW
  • 26:12 THAT THE WRITER OF HEBREWS WAS,
  • 26:13 IN FACT, CORRECT:
  • 26:14 "LOOKING UNTO JESUS, THE AUTHOR
  • 26:16 AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITH."
  • 26:18 THAT IS WHERE OUR SOLUTION
  • 26:19 COMES FROM.
  • 26:20 Katharine: HEBREWS
  • 26:22 IS THE BOOK THAT WE GO TO.
  • 26:23 ANY OF THE QUESTIONS
  • 26:24 THAT WE HAVE, OR IN GENESIS,
  • 26:25 WE GO TO THE BOOK OF HEBREWS
  • 26:26 AND HE ANSWERS THEM ALL, RIGHT?
  • 26:27 Myles: RIGHT,
  • 26:28 THEY'RE INTERPRETED THROUGH
  • 26:29 A JEWISH PERSPECTIVE AND
  • 26:31 SO WE GET TO SEE THE CONFLUENCE
  • 26:32 BETWEEN THE OLD TESTAMENT
  • 26:34 AND THE NEW TESTAMENT BECAUSE
  • 26:36 THEY'RE PERFECTLY CONNECTED.
  • 26:38 AND SO, AS WE GO TODAY,
  • 26:40 WE WANT TO REMIND YOU,
  • 26:41 SHAL'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM
  • 26:43 Katharine: PRAY FOR THE PEACE
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Episodes in this series

  1. The Calling
  2. A Man of Altars
  3. God initiated Covenant
  4. A Domestic Conflict for the Ages
  5. The Promised Son
  6. Deliverance and Increase
  7. Circumcision as a Forever Sign
  8. The Sacrifice

Guests

Rachael Lipkin

Cast

Shmuel Wolf as Abraham
Pnina Bradt Tzdaka as Sarah
Lily Sides as Lot’s Daughter 1
Dorin Levie as Lot’s Daughter 2
Muhamed Halil as Isaac
Sigalit Frenkel as Hagar

Hosts

Myles Weiss
Katharine Weiss
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