Caption transcript for “Israel: Center of Contention” with David Dolan, Part 1

• 00:16 BRETHREN, MY HEART'S DESIRE AND PRAYER TO GOD FOR ISRAEL
• 00:20 IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED,
• 00:23 FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GREEK
• 00:26 FOR THE SAME LORD OVER ALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
• 00:38 WITH DR. JEFFREY SEIF
• 00:42 HEARTY SHALOM TO ALL OF YOU.
• 00:43 JEFFREY SEIF...
• 00:44 GLAD TO WELCOME YOU AGAIN TO ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS.
• 00:48 WE'VE GOT A GOOD ONE FOR YOU NOW
• 00:51 AND I'M GLAD THE PRESSURE'S NOT ON ME...WHY?
• 00:54 WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST.
• 00:56 DAVID DOLAN... GOOD TO SEE YOU MY FRIEND.
• 00:59 IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU JEFF...ALWAYS.
• 01:01 ALL THE WAY FROM THE LAND OF ISRAEL
• 01:04 AND YOU HAVE BEEN THERE FOR HOW LONG?
• 01:06 IT WILL BE 30 YEARS THIS NOVEMBER
• 01:08 AND ISRAEL'S 62,
• 01:10 SO NEARLY HALF OF ISRAEL'S MODERN EXISTENCE.
• 01:13 HALF THE LIFETIME IN THE NATION STATE OF ISRAEL
• 01:16 YOU'VE BEEN THERE.
• 01:18 ARE YOU A JEWISH GUY THAT MADE ALIYAH
• 01:20 THAT DECIDED TO MOVE THERE OR IS THERE ANOTHER STORY?
• 01:22 I WOULD LOVE TO SAY I WAS...
• 01:24 BUT NO, MY MOTHER'S GRANDFATHER WAS JEWISH
• 01:27 AND HER MAIDEN NAME IS A COMMON, "HAZAN",
• 01:30 A VERY COMMON JEWISH NAME,
• 01:31 BUT HE MARRIED A CATHOLIC WOMAN
• 01:33 AND MY FATHER IS IRISH-CATHOLIC
• 01:36 AND I WAS RAISED CATHOLIC.
• 01:38 I BECAME A BORN AGAIN BELIEVER AT AGE 18 JUST OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.
• 01:42 MY BROTHER BECAME A BELIEVER IN COLLEGE AND SHARED WITH ME.
• 01:45 AND I HAD AN IMMEDIATE DESIRE TO GO TO ISRAEL
• 01:49 AND I CAN ONLY SAY THAT IT WAS A SUPER NATURAL GOD GIVEN DESIRE
• 01:53 BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE ISRAEL WAS EVEN...
• 01:55 EXCEPT ITS EAST OF NEW YORK SOMEWHERE
• 01:57 AND DIDN'T KNOW ANY JEWS THAT I KNEW OF,
• 02:00 DIDN'T KNOW AT THAT TIME THAT MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS JEWISH.
• 02:03 BUT YOU FELT THE LORD PROMPTING YOU TO GO.
• 02:06 VERY STRONGLY.
• 02:07 THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW OUR MINISTRY
• 02:09 THAT JUST HAVE AN UNCANNY LOVE FOR THE LORD AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
• 02:14 THEY FEEL CALLED.
• 02:16 AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE WATCH IN LARGE MEASURE.
• 02:18 AND YOU ARE KIND OF AN EXTENSION OF THAT,
• 02:21 SIMILARLY OUT OF YOUR LOVE FOR THE LORD AND THE JEWS
• 02:24 YOU ACTUALLY WENT THERE...WHY?
• 02:26 WELL REALLY I ONLY WENT THERE JUST TO SEE THE LAND FOR A YEAR.
• 02:31 I WENT TO LIVE ON A KIBBUTZ WITH A CHRISTIAN GROUP
• 02:35 AND THAT'S ALL I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE
• 02:37 EXCEPT WHEN I WAS PREPARING TO GO...
• 02:38 I WAS FASTING AND PRAYING FOR 3 DAYS
• 02:40 OUT IN THE NORTHWEST WHERE I'M FROM...
• 02:42 THE LORD SPOKE TO ME CLEARLY THAT HE WAS MOVING ME TO ISRAEL
• 02:46 AND TO SELL ALL MY POSSESSIONS.
• 02:47 WELL I KNEW I WASN'T LEGALLY JEWISH
• 02:50 AND HOW WAS I GOING TO BE LIVING IN ISRAEL?
• 02:52 SO I HAD SOME FAITH,
• 02:54 I SOLD SOME THINGS
• 02:55 BUT I KEPT THE BEST OF IT BACK,
• 02:57 PUT IT IN MY AUNT'S LAKE CABIN,
• 02:59 IT GOT STRUCK BY LIGHTNING 3 YEARS LATER,
• 03:00 BURNED DOWN, I LOST EVERYTHING....
• 03:02 SO YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THE LORD WHEN HE TELLS YOU.
• 03:04 BUT HE WAS GIVING ME A CALL
• 03:06 AND WHAT I FOUND OUT WHEN I GOT THERE JEFF
• 03:08 IS THAT I HAD A PROFESSION
• 03:11 THAT COULD GIVE ME A VISA TO REMAIN IN THE LAND...
• 03:14 I WAS ALREADY WORKING IN RADIO.
• 03:16 YOU MENTIONED YOU WENT TO MOODY BIBLE INSTITUTE.
• 03:18 I WAS WORKING FOR MOODY RADIO IN SPOKANE
• 03:20 AND ALSO IN SECULAR RADIO AND BROADCASTING
• 03:23 AND I WAS THERE ON A KIBBUTZ FOR A YEAR...
• 03:25 A CHRISTIAN MINISTRY THERE,
• 03:27 "THE VOICE OF HOPE" OUT OF CALIFORNIA.
• 03:29 THEY FOUND OUT I HAD RADIO BACKGROUND,
• 03:30 ASKED ME TO COME WORK IN SOUTH LEBANON FOR THEIR STATION
• 03:33 AND THAT LED TO WORK WITH CBS, WITH CBN,
• 03:36 WITH MANY OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS
• 03:38 AND I JUST CONTINUED ON EVER SINCE.
• 03:40 NOW OUR VIEWERS HAVE BEEN SEEING YOU AND HEARING YOU
• 03:44 TAKE THEM OVER THE MIDDLE EAST IN OUR SERIES "JEHOVAH'S TREASURE"
• 03:50 WHERE YOU'VE BECOME SOMETHING LIKE A CELEB,
• 03:52 A GUIDE TO THE PERPLEXED AS YOU'RE LEADING PEOPLE
• 03:55 INTO ALL THESE HISTORICAL PLACES.
• 03:59 BUT NOW WE WANT TO GO CONTEMPORARY
• 04:01 AND IF I CAN LEAN ON YOUR LOVE FOR THE LORD,
• 04:04 YOUR EXPERTISE AFTER 30 YEARS IN ISRAEL
• 04:08 AND YOUR BACKGROUND AND CAREER IN JOURNALISM...
• 04:13 WE IN AMERICA ARE DISCONCERTED BIBLE BELIEVER SORTS,
• 04:17 ISRAEL LOVING SORTS,
• 04:18 BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T FEEL WE'RE GETTING THE REAL STORY.
• 04:20 OH REALLY?
• 04:22 YOU SAY THAT TONGUE IN CHEEK...
• 04:23 YOU BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE AS WELL.
• 04:25 I DO...
• 04:26 I KNOW IT TO BE THE CASE
• 04:28 AND I'VE WRITTEN SEVERAL BOOKS
• 04:30 AND IN ONE I DETAILED SOME OF THE THINGS I SAW AT CBS EVEN
• 04:32 WHERE THEY WERE PLAYING AROUND WITH FILM AND SHENANIGANS THAT WENT ON, ETC.
• 04:37 THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED
• 04:38 AND I THINK THE MEDIA OFTEN DOES HAVE A BIT OF AN AGENDA
• 04:42 AND ITS USUALLY NOT ONE THAT IS FOR ISRAEL OR PRO-ISRAEL.
• 04:46 WELL WHAT CAN WE DO?
• 04:49 YOU KNOW WE PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM
• 04:51 BUT WE WANT TO "SAY" FOR THE PEACE AND THE TRUTH OF JERUSALEM...
• 04:56 A LITTLE PLAY ON WORDS THERE...
• 04:58 IN OUR MINISTRY...
• 04:59 AND WE DO THAT VISA VIES ON NATIONALLY SYNDICATED TELEVISION
• 05:03 AND YOU DO IT IN YOUR OWN WAY AS WELL
• 05:05 TO COUNTER BALANCE WHAT I THINK IS JUST DECEIT,
• 05:09 FLAGRANT MISREPRESENTATION OF THE FACTS RELATIVE TO ISRAEL,
• 05:13 WOULD YOU AGREE?
• 05:15 WELL I THINK THAT THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT IS ALMOST ALWAYS MISSING
• 05:19 AND THAT IS A SHAME.
• 05:22 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FOR INSTANCE THE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS
• 05:25 IT SOUNDS LIKE JEWS HAVE SUDDENLY APPEARED
• 05:29 IN LAND THAT THE ARABS HAD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS
• 05:32 AND JEWS HAVE NO CONNECTION TO IT.
• 05:34 WELL OF COURSE IT'S THE OPPOSITE...
• 05:35 THIS IS JUDEA AND SAMARIA...
• 05:37 THIS IS THE BIBLICAL HEARTLAND OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 05:39 THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN
• 05:41 THAT THERE ISN'T A POLITICAL PROBLEM THERE...
• 05:43 THERE IS...
• 05:44 BUT WE NEED TO GIVE THAT BACKGROUND.
• 05:46 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT JEWS LIVING IN EAST JERUSALEM
• 05:49 AND THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE BUILDING...
• 05:51 WELL HISTORICALLY JEWS HAVE LIVED IN THAT AREA FOR 3,000 YEARS
• 05:54 SO THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN AT LEAST TO THE STORY.
• 05:58 THE 67 BORDERS...
• 06:00 WE HEAR THAT MENTIONED AS IF THESE WERE SACROSANCT BORDERS BETWEEN TWO NATIONS...
• 06:04 JORDAN AND ISRAEL.
• 06:06 WELL YOU KNOW JORDAN HAD COME IN 1948 DURING THE WAR AND TAKEN THAT AREA.
• 06:10 THEY DIDN'T LEGALLY OWN IT AND THAT WAS A CEASE FIRE LINE...
• 06:13 THE 67 BORDERS FROM THE 1948 CONFLICT.
• 06:17 SO THE CONTEXT IS OFTEN MISSING IN NEWSPAPER REPORTS AND RADIO AND TELEVISION REPORTS
• 06:21 AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST HONESTLY BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ENOUGH TIME TO GO INTO THAT.
• 06:26 WELL WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.
• 06:29 BUT JUST TO LOOK AT A MENU OF SOME ISSUES THAT WE CAN EXPLORE
• 06:32 IN CONTEXTS THAT ARE GERMANE TO THE EXPERIENCE IN MODERN ISRAEL TODAY...
• 06:36 WE'LL LOOK AT SOME ISSUES WITH YOU OF JERUSALEM...
• 06:41 BUILDING IN JERUSALEM...
• 06:42 SOME BORDER ISSUES...
• 06:43 WHAT ARE THE HOT SPOTS?
• 06:45 WHAT ARE SOME OTHER ONES THAT YOU THINK ARE WORTHY OF SOME EXPLORATION?
• 06:47 THE GOLAN HEIGHTS...
• 06:50 DOES ISRAEL HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE UP THERE AS IS IMPLIED?
• 06:55 WELL AGAIN THERE'S A HISTORICAL SITUATION THERE.
• 06:58 THAT WAS CONSIDERED PART OF THE LAND THAT ISRAEL WOULD GET,
• 07:02 THE JEWISH STATE WOULD GET, UNDER THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS MANDATE IN 1922.
• 07:06 IT WAS ONLY LATER REMOVED BY BRITAIN
• 07:08 AND MOVED OVER TO THE FRENCH MANDATE
• 07:10 TO SET UP THE STATE OF SYRIA.
• 07:12 DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THIS...
• 07:14 SO BASICALLY THE SITUATION IS MUCH MORE FLUID.
• 07:17 IT'S NOT NEARLY AS CONCRETE AS IT'S OFTEN PORTRAYED.
• 07:20 AND THAT'S ONE AREA.
• 07:21 THE GAZA STRIP IS ANOTHER.
• 07:23 THIS IS AN AREA THAT WAS OCCUPIED BY EGYPT IN 1948.
• 07:27 BEFORE THAT IT ALSO WAS IMPLIED
• 07:30 TO BE PART OF THE AREA THAT JEWS COULD SETTLE IN
• 07:33 AND IN FACT JEWS HAD LIVED THERE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
• 07:35 GAZA CITY AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW
• 07:37 WAS A CENTER OF JEWISH LIFE,
• 07:39 SO AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEGOTIATIONS
• 07:43 AND JEWS PULLING OUT OF THESE AREAS,
• 07:45 LET'S LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT AS WELL AND GET THAT IN MIND.
• 07:49 AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT
• 07:51 AND WE ARE GOING TO DO IT WITH YOU.
• 07:55 WE LOVE BRINGING YOU EXPERTS
• 07:57 AND WE'VE GOT A GOOD ONE...
• 07:59 HE'S GOING TO SHARE...
• 08:01 WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THE TRUTH OF ISRAEL AS WE CONTINUE WITH ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS.
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• 08:45 THE WAY ISRAEL IS MISREPRESENTED IN THE MEDIA REALLY SADDENS ME DEEPLY.
• 08:51 IN THE WORLD AT LARGE JEWS ARE VILIFIED
• 08:54 AND ISRAEL IS DISPARAGED OUTRIGHT IN SO MANY WAYS.
• 08:58 I COUNT IT AN HONOR...
• 09:01 I AM THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO COUNTERBALANCE THE DECEIT
• 09:05 WITH WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE MORE TRUTHFULNESS IN TELLING.
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• 09:44 DAVID DOLAN IS WITH ME ON THIS PROGRAM HAS A COLUMN IN THERE,
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• 10:44 THANK YOU
• 10:46 IT'S GOOD AGAIN TO BE HERE.
• 10:47 I WANT TO READ A BIBLICAL VERSE
• 10:49 AND ASK WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
• 10:50 IN PSALM 120 THE PSALMIST SAYS IN VERSE 7,
• 10:53 "I AM FOR PEACE BUT WHEN I SPEAK THEY ARE FOR WAR."
• 10:59 HE MEANT WELL,
• 11:01 HE FOUND HIMSELF IN A WORLD WHERE EVERYBODY WAS AT HIS THROAT.
• 11:06 IT SEEMS THAT'S THE CASE IN ISRAEL TODAY.
• 11:09 YOU KNOW JEFF I OFTEN QUOTE THAT PSALM,
• 11:12 THE ENTIRE PSALM,
• 11:13 IT'S A SHORT ONE,
• 11:15 WHEN I GO OUT SPEAKING TO CONGREGATIONS AND GROUPS
• 11:17 BECAUSE I THINK IT SO ADEQUATELY AND FULLY TYPIFIES THE SITUATION.
• 11:22 1947... THE JEWISH LEADERSHIP,
• 11:25 PRE-ISRAEL,
• 11:26 ACCEPTS THE U.N. PARTITION PLAN;
• 11:29 THE ARAB NATIONS REJECT IT AND GO TO WAR.
• 11:31 1967... EGYPT AND SYRIA LAUNCH A WAR
• 11:35 BACKED BY THE SOVIET UNION.
• 11:37 AFTERWARDS ISRAEL OFFERS TO GIVE BACK ALL OF THE CAPTURED TERRITORY...
• 11:40 THE SINAI PENINSULA, THE GOLAN HEIGHTS,
• 11:42 THE WEST BANK, JUDEA AND SAMARIA...
• 11:44 THE ARABS MEET IN KHARTOUM AND ISSUE THE FAMOUS "FOUR NO'S"...
• 11:48 NO NEGOTIATION...
• 11:49 NO PEACE...
• 11:50 THE OSLO PEACE ACCORDS WERE SIGNED IN 1993...
• 11:53 THEY END IN TERROR AND VIOLENCE...
• 11:55 NO PEACE.
• 11:57 AND AGAIN ISRAEL TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE PEACE TABLE THE PAST FEW YEARS...
• 12:00 THE PALESTINIAN LEADERSHIP GIVING THIS CONDITION
• 12:02 AND THAT CONDITION AND THIS CONDITION
• 12:04 AND THE TERRORISM CONTINUING.
• 12:06 SO IT EXACTLY TYPIFIES WHAT IS GOING ON.
• 12:08 IT DWARFS ME...
• 12:10 AND BY THE WAY WE DIDN'T JUST SET UP...
• 12:12 HERE I'M GOING TO QUOTE FROM A TEXT THAT YOU OFT EMPLOYED...
• 12:15 I MEAN I JUST KIND OF PULLED THAT OUT OF NOWHERE HERE...
• 12:17 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A "GO TO" TEXT FOR YOU.
• 12:20 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT JEWS AND ISRAEL
• 12:23 ARE REPRESENTED AS BEING INTRANSIGENT IN THEIR DISDAIN FOR ARABS,
• 12:28 THEIR REFUSAL TO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A PROCESS TO HELP ARABS COME INTO THEIR OWN...
• 12:34 THAT'S JUST COMPLETE NON-REALITY.
• 12:36 PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU LAST JUNE A YEAR AGO SAID
• 12:40 "WE WILL ACCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE,"
• 12:43 "A TWO-STATE SOLUTION".
• 12:45 THAT HAS BEEN SAID BY EHUD OLMERT BEFORE HIM AND OTHER ISRAELI LEADERS...
• 12:48 THE LATE YITZHAK RABIN...
• 12:50 SHIMON PEREZ, THE PRESIDENT OF ISRAEL.
• 12:52 THE DESIRE FOR REAL PEACE WITH PALESTINIANS IS DEFINITELY THERE
• 12:55 TO THE POINT THE OPINION POLLS SHOW
• 12:57 TWO-THIRDS OF THE ISRAELI PUBLIC
• 12:59 ARE WILLING TO TAKE YET ANOTHER RISK
• 13:02 AND GIVE UP YET MORE LAND.
• 13:04 NOW THEY PULLED OUT OF GAZA AND WHAT DID THEY GET?
• 13:07 ....ROCKETS.
• 13:08 THEY PULLED OUT OF LEBANON.
• 13:09 WHAT DID THEY GET?
• 13:10 ...ROCKETS.
• 13:11 WHICH MAKES IT ALL THE MORE NOBLE TO MY WAY OF THINKING BECAUSE...
• 13:15 HERE WE'LL GIVE LAND FOR PEACE....
• 13:17 AND HERE TAKE THE GAZA...
• 13:18 AND WHAT DO WE GET?
• 13:19 APPROACHING 10,000 ROCKETS.
• 13:21 TO BE WILLING TO DO IT AGAIN
• 13:23 MOST WOULDN'T TRY AGAIN,
• 13:25 WE'D JUST LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES.
• 13:27 AND IT IS TRUE THAT PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU ISSUED
• 13:31 A CONDITIONAL YES FOR THAT.
• 13:33 IN OTHER WORDS HE SAID IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A DEMILITARIZED STATE,
• 13:36 IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ONE THAT ISRAELI AIRCRAFT COULD FLY OVER
• 13:39 AND WATCH THE GROUND SITUATION, ETC.
• 13:42 THERE'S A FEW RESTRICTIONS
• 13:44 BUT STILL LIKE YOU SAY, TO BE WILLING...
• 13:47 A LIKUD PARTY LEADER OF THE RIGHT WING TO BE WILLING TO SAY,
• 13:50 "I DO ACCEPT IN PRINCIPLE THIS TWO-STATE SOLUTION"
• 13:53 IS AMAZING GIVEN THE RESULTS SO FAR.
• 13:55 BUT THAT IS BECAUSE AS THE PSALMIST SAID,
• 13:58 "I AM FOR PEACE"...
• 13:59 THE ISRAELIS DESPERATELY...
• 14:01 AND I'VE LIVED THERE 30 YEARS...
• 14:02 THIS IS NOT JUST A POLITICAL LINE OR PROPAGANDA...
• 14:06 THEY DESPERATELY WANT PEACE.
• 14:08 YOU KNOW EVERY YOUNG ISRAELI MALE AND MOST OF THE FEMALES,
• 14:12 THEY GO INTO THE ARMY.
• 14:13 PARENTS DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS GOING OFF TO WAR
• 14:15 ANYMORE THAN AMERICAN PARENTS WANT THAT.
• 14:17 BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO?
• 14:19 ISRAEL'S FOR PEACE...
• 14:20 THEY'RE WANTING WAR.
• 14:22 IRAN...SPONSORING THESE MILITIAS, HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH...
• 14:25 DID ISRAEL INVITE IRAN, A COUNTRY THEY WERE AT PEACE WITH
• 14:28 UNTIL THE SHAH WAS OVERTHROWN
• 14:29 TO COME AND SET UP THESE MILITIAS AND ATTACK THEM?
• 14:31 OF COURSE NOT.
• 14:33 THEY WANT PEACE BUT IT TAKES TWO TO REALLY MAKE PEACE.
• 14:36 AND HE SAYS HERE IN VERSE TWO,
• 14:38 "DELIVER MY SOUL OH LORD FROM LYING LIPS AND FROM A DECEITFUL TONGUE".
• 14:44 THERE'S SO MUCH OF THAT TODAY
• 14:46 WHERE JEWS ARE PAINTED AS A NEFARIOUS, EVIL SORT...
• 14:51 JUST RUNNING ROUGHSHOD OVER THE POOR,
• 14:54 DISPOSSESSED, DISENFRANCHISED ARAB PEOPLES
• 14:57 WHO HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY THEM...
• 14:59 COMPLETE, COMPLETE FANTASY.
• 15:01 IT IS AND YOU KNOW THE ISRAELI PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART,
• 15:04 THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THE ARABS ARE THEIR PHYSICAL COUSINS,
• 15:09 THAT THEY'VE LIVED IN THE REGION ALL THESE CENTURIES
• 15:11 AND THEY HAVE A RESPECT FOR THEM AND FOR THEIR CULTURE.
• 15:13 IN FACT WHEN YOU LISTEN TO YOUNG ISRAELIS SPEAKING,
• 15:16 HALF THE SLANG THEY USE IS ARABIC SLANG.
• 15:19 THERE'S A LOT OF INTERACTION BETWEEN THE CULTURES
• 15:22 AND THEY REALLY DO WANT PEACE.
• 15:23 AND TO BE FAIR THERE ARE OF COURSE ARAB LEADERS
• 15:25 THAT WANT IT AND HAVE IMPLEMENTED IT...
• 15:27 KING HUSSEIN OF JORDAN...
• 15:29 THE LATE KING HUSSEIN...
• 15:30 MUBARAK CARRIES OUT THE PEACE TREATY THAT SADDAT SIGNED IN EGYPT.
• 15:33 IT'S A COLD PIECE BUT NEVERTHELESS ITS THERE.
• 15:35 PARTS OF THE PALESTINIAN LEADERSHIP...
• 15:37 YASSER ARAFAT SIGNED AN ACCORD.
• 15:39 IT DIDN'T LAST BUT THEY DO REALLY WANT PEACE.
• 15:42 BUT THERE'S ENOUGH THERE THAT DON'T WANT IT
• 15:45 AND CONTINUE TO SAY ISRAEL'S THE PROBLEM,
• 15:47 ISRAEL'S THE INTRANSIGENT PARTY HERE
• 15:49 AND I CAN TELL YOU THE ISRAELI PEOPLE
• 15:52 WOULD GO ALMOST TO ANY DEGREE
• 15:54 TO HAVE REAL PEACE THAT WOULD REALLY END THE CONFLICT.
• 15:57 AFTER ALL THEY'RE FACING A WAR THAT AS THE DEFENSE MINISTER BARAK HAS WARNED,
• 16:02 A WAR THAT COULD COME HAT WOULD BRING IT INTO EVERYBODY'S HOME...
• 16:04 MISSILES IN EVERY CITY AND TOWN...
• 16:06 WHO WANTS THAT?
• 16:08 THEY DESPERATELY WANT PEACE BUT AGAIN IT TAKES TWO TO MAKE IT.
• 16:10 AND IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO.
• 16:13 I HAVE A CAREER IN THE PAST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
• 16:17 AND I'VE RESPONDED TO MANY HOMES IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE...
• 16:20 AND HE SAYS, "BOY IF SHE'D JUST DO THIS AND THAT AND THIS AND THAT THEN I'D BE HAPPY."
• 16:26 AND THEN SHE TRIES TO DO THIS AND THAT BUT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
• 16:29 THE CYCLE OF ABUSE CONTINUES IN HOMES
• 16:32 MUCH AS IT CONTINUES IN THE JEWISH HOMELAND.
• 16:37 ITS SPIRITUAL... IT'S TRAGIC
• 16:39 AND WE'LL EXPLORE THE STORY SOME MORE.
• 17:19 IN PSALM 137 THE AUTHOR SPOKE OF HOLDING JERUSALEM ABOVE HIS HIGHEST JOY.
• 17:27 IT IS SUCH A JOY FOR ME TO GO IN AND OUT OF ISRAEL.
• 17:30 AND IT WOULD BE A JOY FOR ME IF YOU WOULD COME WITH ME.
• 17:36 WE GO ALL THE TIME.
• 17:38 IT'S A THRILL FOR ME.
• 17:39 MORE IMPORTANTLY IT WOULD BE A THRILL FOR YOU
• 17:43 AS YOU VISIT THE ANCESTRAL, BIBLICAL HOMELAND;
• 17:47 AS YOU VISIT THE PLACE WHERE THE DRAMA WAS PLAYED OUT.
• 17:52 YOU READ ABOUT IT IN GOD'S WORD
• 17:54 AND AS YOU WALK THERE YOU MAY WELL HEAR THE LORD BREATHE A WORD INTO YOU AND SAY,
• 18:01 "THIS IS THE WAY - WALK IN IT."
• 18:04 IT'S A FASCINATING PLACE.
• 18:06 ITS A SAFE PLACE TO GO.
• 18:08 DO CONSIDER COMING WITH ME PLEASE.
• 18:13 THE LATE ZOLA LEVITT WILL SHARE SOME MUSIC RIGHT NOW
• 18:16 AND I KNOW THAT YOUR HEART WILL BE BLESSED AS YOU HEAR MUSIC FROM ZOLA LEVITT.
• 18:35 (ZOLA PLAYING THE FLUTE)
• 20:17 I DIDN'T WRITE THIS BOOK...
• 20:19 IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE IN PSALM 137 RELATIVE TO JERUSALEM
• 20:23 HOW PEOPLE IN VERSE 7 ARE SAYING,
• 20:25 "LET US DESTROY IT...LET US BURN IT...BURN IT TO THE GROUND RIGHT DOWN TO ITS FOUNDATIONS."
• 20:30 IT'S RIGHT THERE.
• 20:33 JERUSALEM IN HEBREW "YERUSHALAYIM", "CITY OF PEACE",
• 20:38 OH HOW IT GENERATES TENSION THEN AS NOW. YES
• 20:45 DAVID DOLAN YOU LIVE THERE, TELL ME ABOUT IT.
• 20:47 I LIVE RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF JERUSALEM.
• 20:50 YOU'VE BEEN TO MY APARTMENT.
• 20:51 I LOOK OUT OVER THE TEMPLE MOUNT IN THE OLD CITY
• 20:54 AND IT'S A LOVELY VIEW
• 20:55 BUT AS YOU SAY YOU CAN OFTEN FEEL THE TENSION.
• 20:58 I CAN SOMETIMES HEAR THE FRIDAY PRAYERS COMING FROM THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
• 21:02 THE MUSLIM PRAYERS UP THERE,
• 21:04 YOU CAN HEAR THE ANGER IN THE VOICE OFTEN OF THE IMAMS,
• 21:07 THE PREACHERS THAT ARE SPEAKING.
• 21:09 YOU SEE IT MANIFESTED OFTEN IN CLASHES AND POLICE ACTIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
• 21:14 SO IT IS THE CITY OF PEACE
• 21:16 BUT UNTIL THE MESSIAH COMES TO REIGN AND RULE FROM THE CITY
• 21:19 THERE'S GOING TO BE CLASHES AND TENSION.
• 21:21 AND OF COURSE THE SCRIPTURES TOLD US THAT...
• 21:23 THE MESSIAH TOLD US THAT DURING HIS FIRST APPEARANCE.
• 21:25 IN AMERICA WE PLACE A PREMIUM ON THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH
• 21:30 AND AREN'T KINDLY DISPOSED TOWARD THOSE WHO USE IT TO INCITE,
• 21:34 HOWEVER, IN JERUSALEM ON A WEEKLY BASIS THE CITY OPENS UP
• 21:39 FOR INDIVIDUALS OF THE ISLAMIC FAITH
• 21:42 TO HEAR THEIR LEADERS SPEAK AND THEY DOLE OUT INVECTIVE ALL THE TIME.
• 21:47 AND EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT I SOMETIMES WAKE UP
• 21:50 AND I HEAR THE CALL TO PRAYER AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING FROM THE MOSQUE
• 21:54 AND I DON'T SPEAK ARABIC FLUENTLY
• 21:57 BUT I UNDERSTAND QUITE A BIT,I WORKED IN LEBANON, ETC.
• 22:01 I HAVE HEARD THE LIVE CALL TO PRAYER
• 22:04 PRAISING HEZBOLLAH, PRAISING HAMAS,
• 22:08 PRAISING ACTS OF TERROR.
• 22:09 THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN MOST ISRAELIS ARE ASLEEP.
• 22:13 THERE'S A FEW POLICEMEN OUT, A FEW BORDER POLICEMEN
• 22:14 BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY MONITORING THINGS
• 22:17 AND THE ARAB POPULACE IS HEARING THIS INCITEMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
• 22:21 TO PRAISE THESE TERROR GROUPS AND TERRORISTS.
• 22:24 IT'S REALLY QUITE A SHAME.
• 22:26 NOW MOST OF THE TIME I HAVE TO SAY THEY DON'T DO THAT
• 22:28 BUT OCCASIONALLY YOU HEAR THAT
• 22:30 ESPECIALLY IN TIMES OF HEIGHTENED TENSION.
• 22:32 AND I'M INCLINED TO THINK THAT WHILE THE TENSION ENTAILS LAND AND STICKS AND BRICKS,
• 22:37 WHO LIVES WHERE, HOMES HERE AND THERE...
• 22:40 ITS NOT ABOUT LANDS,
• 22:41 ITS NOT ABOUT STICKS AND BRICKS...
• 22:43 THERE'S SOME SPIRITUAL COMPONENT THAT DRIVES THESE FORCES
• 22:47 AND IT SEEMS TO COME TO A HEAD IN JERUSALEM.
• 22:51 WELL OF COURSE THE GOD OF ISRAEL WHO SAID,
• 22:54 "I'M THE ONLY GOD AND ALL OTHERS ARE FALSE GODS" SAID,
• 22:58 "I WILL PLACE MY FEET IN JERUSALEM."
• 23:01 "THIS WILL BE THE FOOTSTOOL FOR MY FEET."
• 23:04 "THE TEMPLE TO MY NAME WILL BE BUILT HERE."
• 23:06 THE MESSIAH WILL REIGN FROM HERE...
• 23:08 SO HE DESIGNATED THAT PIECE OF LAND.
• 23:11 AND YOU KNOW I LOVE TO LIVE IN JERUSALEM
• 23:13 BUT I ALSO LOVE TO GO DOWN TO TEL AVIV BECAUSE I LIKE THE WATER.
• 23:16 THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL PHYSICALLY ABOUT JERUSALEM...
• 23:19 ITS NOT ON A LAKE OR A RIVER OR A SEA BED OR ANYTHING.
• 23:22 I LIKE THE MOUNTAINS AND STUFF
• 23:23 BUT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PHYSICAL PLACE ON EARTH
• 23:26 BUT IT IS THE SPIRITUAL CENTER THAT GOD DESIGNATED.
• 23:29 AND OF COURSE THE BIBLE SAYS THERE'S AN ENEMY TO GOD...SATAN.
• 23:33 AND HE KNOWS THE SCRIPTURES AND HE FIGHTS AGAINST THAT ALL THE TIME.
• 23:37 RIGHT AND ALL THE TIME HUNDREDS OF TIMES IN THE BIBLE
• 23:40 JERUSALEM IS SACRED TO GOD.
• 23:42 HE MAKES HIS NAME TO DWELL THERE.
• 23:44 WHAT'S INTERESTING IS NOWHERE IS JERUSALEM MENTIONED IN THE QURAN
• 23:48 YET INDIVIDUALS OF THE ISLAMIC PERSUASION ARGUE...
• 23:51 "THIS IS OUR LAND..."
• 23:52 "THIS IS OUR REAL ESTATE... WE LIVE HERE..."
• 23:54 "THE JEWS HAVE NO PLACE HERE."
• 23:55 THE FACT THAT CHRISTIANS CAN BELIEVE IT...
• 23:59 THE FACT THAT BIBLE BELIEVERS CAN BUY THE NARRATIVE
• 24:03 IS THE EPITOME OF SPIRITUAL BLINDNESS IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.
• 24:08 AND I WOULD SAY ALSO BIBLICAL IGNORANCE
• 24:10 BECAUSE YOU CAN'T READ THE BIBLE WITHOUT JERUSALEM BEING MENTIONED...
• 24:14 WHAT IS IT...700 SOME TIMES THAT IT'S MENTIONED IN THERE?
• 24:17 IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE JEBUSITE PERIOD
• 24:20 BEFORE KING DAVID EVEN CAPTURED IT, IT'S MENTIONED.
• 24:23 AND THEN HIS CAPTURE,
• 24:25 THE REIGN OF ALL THE KINGS THERE,
• 24:27 ALL THE MIRACLES THAT TOOK PLACE THERE,
• 24:28 ALLTHE PROPHETS THAT OPERATED OUT OF THERE...
• 24:30 IT IS THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE BIBLE.
• 24:32 AND OF COURSE IT IS THE PLACE THAT JESUS HIMSELF,
• 24:35 YESHUA HIMSELF, PROPHESIED WOULD NOT ONLY BE THE CENTER OF CONFLICT
• 24:39 BUT THE PLACE HE WOULD COME BACK TO.
• 24:41 SO HOW YOU CAN BE A CHRISTIAN AND NOT SEE IT
• 24:43 AS THE CENTER OF THE EARTH IS REALLY A MYSTERY.
• 24:47 EVEN PEOPLE THAT ARE NOMINALLY CHRISTIAN,
• 24:50 THEY'RE NOT REALLY BIBLICALLY LITERATE OR BIBLICALLY ENGAGED,
• 24:53 BUT JUST IN MEMORY PEOPLE KNOW JESUS WAS A JEW,
• 24:56 HE CAME TO ISRAEL,
• 24:58 IT'S THE ANCESTRAL HOMELAND,
• 24:59 MOSES LED THE PEOPLE FROM EGYPT...
• 25:02 THERE'S STUFF IN THE CULTURAL SCRIPT THAT PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW...
• 25:06 WAIT A MINUTE...
• 25:08 EVEN IF THEY DON'T SPEND THEIR TIME POURING THROUGH THE BIBLICAL TEXT...
• 25:10 IN MEMORY PEOPLE KNOW DARN WELL THAT LAND BELONGS TO JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 25:15 IN PSALM 105...
• 25:17 I OFTEN QUOTE THAT...
• 25:18 IT SAYS...GOD SAYS,
• 25:20 "I HAVE THIS LAND... IT'S MINE..."
• 25:22 "BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO ABRAHAM'S DESCENDANTS"
• 25:24 "THROUGH ISAAC AND JACOB AS AN EVERLASTING COVENANT."
• 25:29 "AD OLAM" IN HEBREW, "UNTIL ETERNITY"
• 25:32 THIS IS GOING TO BE A COVENANT FOR A THOUSAND GENERATIONS IT SAYS.
• 25:36 THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME.
• 25:37 IT IS A LONG TIME AND IT MEANS OF COURSE
• 25:39 THAT GOD HAS ALREADY MADE UP HIS MIND...
• 25:41 THIS IS WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT IT.
• 25:43 NOW DOES THAT MEAN THAT ARABS CAN'T LIVE THERE? NO
• 25:46 DOES IT MEAN THAT PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF
• 25:47 OF A GENTILE BACKGROUND CAN'T BE THERE? NO
• 25:49 THERE WAS ALWAYS OTHER CULTURES AND OTHER PEOPLE GROUPS
• 25:53 THERE IN KING DAVID'S TIME AND THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY
• 25:55 BUT IT MEANS IT BELONGS PRIMARILY TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 25:58 AND THE IDEA IN PARTICULAR
• 26:00 THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN CONTROL OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
• 26:02 THE HOLIEST SITE ON EARTH FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE FOR 3,000 YEARS
• 26:05 IS A PRETTY ABSURD CONTENTION I WOULD SAY.
• 26:08 YES, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE ABSURD
• 26:11 AND IN SOME WAYS FOR MY MONEY JUST PLAIN EVIL.
• 26:17 NEXT WEEK WE'LL BE HEARING FROM DAVID DOLAN AGAIN.
• 26:21 AFTER THAT A SERIES THAT WE DID IN PROPHECY,
• 26:26 WE LOOKED AT THE BOOK OF ESTHER
• 26:28 AND CONSIDERED HOW A WICKED MAN RAISED HIS HOARY HEAD TO DESTROY THE JEWS
• 26:34 BUT GOD RAISED UP A WOMAN TO STAND.
• 26:37 INASMUCH AS GOD HAS RAISED UP DAVID IN HIS DAY,
• 26:41 YOU IN YOUR WAY AND ME IN MINE,
• 26:43 SO IT IS THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE GOD RAISES PEOPLE TO STAND FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 26:47 THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT
• 26:48 AND AS YOU GO NOW,
• 26:50 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM
• 26:52 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM