Caption transcript for “Israel: Center of Contention” with David Dolan, Part 1

• 00:17 BRETHREN, MY HEART'S DESIRE AND PRAYER TO GOD FOR ISRAEL
• 00:21 IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED,
• 00:24 FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GREEK
• 00:27 FOR THE SAME LORD OVER ALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
• 00:39 WITH DR. JEFFREY SEIF
• 00:43 HEARTY SHALOM TO ALL OF YOU.
• 00:44 JEFFREY SEIF...
• 00:45 GLAD TO WELCOME YOU AGAIN TO ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS.
• 00:49 WE'VE GOT A GOOD ONE FOR YOU NOW
• 00:52 AND I'M GLAD THE PRESSURE'S NOT ON ME...WHY?
• 00:55 WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST.
• 00:57 DAVID DOLAN... GOOD TO SEE YOU MY FRIEND.
• 01:00 IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU JEFF...ALWAYS.
• 01:02 ALL THE WAY FROM THE LAND OF ISRAEL
• 01:05 AND YOU HAVE BEEN THERE FOR HOW LONG?
• 01:07 IT WILL BE 30 YEARS THIS NOVEMBER
• 01:09 AND ISRAEL'S 62,
• 01:11 SO NEARLY HALF OF ISRAEL'S MODERN EXISTENCE.
• 01:14 HALF THE LIFETIME IN THE NATION STATE OF ISRAEL
• 01:17 YOU'VE BEEN THERE.
• 01:19 ARE YOU A JEWISH GUY THAT MADE ALIYAH
• 01:21 THAT DECIDED TO MOVE THERE OR IS THERE ANOTHER STORY?
• 01:23 I WOULD LOVE TO SAY I WAS...
• 01:25 BUT NO, MY MOTHER'S GRANDFATHER WAS JEWISH
• 01:28 AND HER MAIDEN NAME IS A COMMON, "HAZAN",
• 01:31 A VERY COMMON JEWISH NAME,
• 01:32 BUT HE MARRIED A CATHOLIC WOMAN
• 01:34 AND MY FATHER IS IRISH-CATHOLIC
• 01:37 AND I WAS RAISED CATHOLIC.
• 01:39 I BECAME A BORN AGAIN BELIEVER AT AGE 18 JUST OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.
• 01:43 MY BROTHER BECAME A BELIEVER IN COLLEGE AND SHARED WITH ME.
• 01:46 AND I HAD AN IMMEDIATE DESIRE TO GO TO ISRAEL
• 01:50 AND I CAN ONLY SAY THAT IT WAS A SUPER NATURAL GOD GIVEN DESIRE
• 01:54 BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE ISRAEL WAS EVEN...
• 01:56 EXCEPT ITS EAST OF NEW YORK SOMEWHERE
• 01:58 AND DIDN'T KNOW ANY JEWS THAT I KNEW OF,
• 02:01 DIDN'T KNOW AT THAT TIME THAT MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS JEWISH.
• 02:04 BUT YOU FELT THE LORD PROMPTING YOU TO GO.
• 02:07 VERY STRONGLY.
• 02:08 THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW OUR MINISTRY
• 02:10 THAT JUST HAVE AN UNCANNY LOVE FOR THE LORD AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
• 02:15 THEY FEEL CALLED.
• 02:17 AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE WATCH IN LARGE MEASURE.
• 02:19 AND YOU ARE KIND OF AN EXTENSION OF THAT,
• 02:22 SIMILARLY OUT OF YOUR LOVE FOR THE LORD AND THE JEWS
• 02:25 YOU ACTUALLY WENT THERE...WHY?
• 02:27 WELL REALLY I ONLY WENT THERE JUST TO SEE THE LAND FOR A YEAR.
• 02:32 I WENT TO LIVE ON A KIBBUTZ WITH A CHRISTIAN GROUP
• 02:36 AND THAT'S ALL I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE
• 02:38 EXCEPT WHEN I WAS PREPARING TO GO...
• 02:39 I WAS FASTING AND PRAYING FOR 3 DAYS
• 02:41 OUT IN THE NORTHWEST WHERE I'M FROM...
• 02:43 THE LORD SPOKE TO ME CLEARLY THAT HE WAS MOVING ME TO ISRAEL
• 02:47 AND TO SELL ALL MY POSSESSIONS.
• 02:48 WELL I KNEW I WASN'T LEGALLY JEWISH
• 02:51 AND HOW WAS I GOING TO BE LIVING IN ISRAEL?
• 02:53 SO I HAD SOME FAITH,
• 02:55 I SOLD SOME THINGS
• 02:56 BUT I KEPT THE BEST OF IT BACK,
• 02:58 PUT IT IN MY AUNT'S LAKE CABIN,
• 03:00 IT GOT STRUCK BY LIGHTNING 3 YEARS LATER,
• 03:01 BURNED DOWN, I LOST EVERYTHING....
• 03:03 SO YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THE LORD WHEN HE TELLS YOU.
• 03:05 BUT HE WAS GIVING ME A CALL
• 03:07 AND WHAT I FOUND OUT WHEN I GOT THERE JEFF
• 03:09 IS THAT I HAD A PROFESSION
• 03:12 THAT COULD GIVE ME A VISA TO REMAIN IN THE LAND...
• 03:15 I WAS ALREADY WORKING IN RADIO.
• 03:17 YOU MENTIONED YOU WENT TO MOODY BIBLE INSTITUTE.
• 03:19 I WAS WORKING FOR MOODY RADIO IN SPOKANE
• 03:21 AND ALSO IN SECULAR RADIO AND BROADCASTING
• 03:24 AND I WAS THERE ON A KIBBUTZ FOR A YEAR...
• 03:26 A CHRISTIAN MINISTRY THERE,
• 03:28 "THE VOICE OF HOPE" OUT OF CALIFORNIA.
• 03:30 THEY FOUND OUT I HAD RADIO BACKGROUND,
• 03:31 ASKED ME TO COME WORK IN SOUTH LEBANON FOR THEIR STATION
• 03:34 AND THAT LED TO WORK WITH CBS, WITH CBN,
• 03:37 WITH MANY OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS
• 03:39 AND I JUST CONTINUED ON EVER SINCE.
• 03:41 NOW OUR VIEWERS HAVE BEEN SEEING YOU AND HEARING YOU
• 03:45 TAKE THEM OVER THE MIDDLE EAST IN OUR SERIES "JEHOVAH'S TREASURE"
• 03:51 WHERE YOU'VE BECOME SOMETHING LIKE A CELEB,
• 03:53 A GUIDE TO THE PERPLEXED AS YOU'RE LEADING PEOPLE
• 03:56 INTO ALL THESE HISTORICAL PLACES.
• 04:00 BUT NOW WE WANT TO GO CONTEMPORARY
• 04:02 AND IF I CAN LEAN ON YOUR LOVE FOR THE LORD,
• 04:05 YOUR EXPERTISE AFTER 30 YEARS IN ISRAEL
• 04:09 AND YOUR BACKGROUND AND CAREER IN JOURNALISM...
• 04:14 WE IN AMERICA ARE DISCONCERTED BIBLE BELIEVER SORTS,
• 04:18 ISRAEL LOVING SORTS,
• 04:19 BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T FEEL WE'RE GETTING THE REAL STORY.
• 04:21 OH REALLY?
• 04:23 YOU SAY THAT TONGUE IN CHEEK...
• 04:24 YOU BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE AS WELL.
• 04:26 I DO...
• 04:27 I KNOW IT TO BE THE CASE
• 04:29 AND I'VE WRITTEN SEVERAL BOOKS
• 04:31 AND IN ONE I DETAILED SOME OF THE THINGS I SAW AT CBS EVEN
• 04:33 WHERE THEY WERE PLAYING AROUND WITH FILM AND SHENANIGANS THAT WENT ON, ETC.
• 04:38 THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED
• 04:39 AND I THINK THE MEDIA OFTEN DOES HAVE A BIT OF AN AGENDA
• 04:43 AND ITS USUALLY NOT ONE THAT IS FOR ISRAEL OR PRO-ISRAEL.
• 04:47 WELL WHAT CAN WE DO?
• 04:50 YOU KNOW WE PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM
• 04:52 BUT WE WANT TO "SAY" FOR THE PEACE AND THE TRUTH OF JERUSALEM...
• 04:57 A LITTLE PLAY ON WORDS THERE...
• 04:59 IN OUR MINISTRY...
• 05:00 AND WE DO THAT VISA VIES ON NATIONALLY SYNDICATED TELEVISION
• 05:04 AND YOU DO IT IN YOUR OWN WAY AS WELL
• 05:06 TO COUNTER BALANCE WHAT I THINK IS JUST DECEIT,
• 05:10 FLAGRANT MISREPRESENTATION OF THE FACTS RELATIVE TO ISRAEL,
• 05:14 WOULD YOU AGREE?
• 05:16 WELL I THINK THAT THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT IS ALMOST ALWAYS MISSING
• 05:20 AND THAT IS A SHAME.
• 05:23 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FOR INSTANCE THE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS
• 05:26 IT SOUNDS LIKE JEWS HAVE SUDDENLY APPEARED
• 05:30 IN LAND THAT THE ARABS HAD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS
• 05:33 AND JEWS HAVE NO CONNECTION TO IT.
• 05:35 WELL OF COURSE IT'S THE OPPOSITE...
• 05:36 THIS IS JUDEA AND SAMARIA...
• 05:38 THIS IS THE BIBLICAL HEARTLAND OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 05:40 THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN
• 05:42 THAT THERE ISN'T A POLITICAL PROBLEM THERE...
• 05:44 THERE IS...
• 05:45 BUT WE NEED TO GIVE THAT BACKGROUND.
• 05:47 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT JEWS LIVING IN EAST JERUSALEM
• 05:50 AND THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE BUILDING...
• 05:52 WELL HISTORICALLY JEWS HAVE LIVED IN THAT AREA FOR 3,000 YEARS
• 05:55 SO THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN AT LEAST TO THE STORY.
• 05:59 THE 67 BORDERS...
• 06:01 WE HEAR THAT MENTIONED AS IF THESE WERE SACROSANCT BORDERS BETWEEN TWO NATIONS...
• 06:05 JORDAN AND ISRAEL.
• 06:07 WELL YOU KNOW JORDAN HAD COME IN 1948 DURING THE WAR AND TAKEN THAT AREA.
• 06:11 THEY DIDN'T LEGALLY OWN IT AND THAT WAS A CEASE FIRE LINE...
• 06:14 THE 67 BORDERS FROM THE 1948 CONFLICT.
• 06:18 SO THE CONTEXT IS OFTEN MISSING IN NEWSPAPER REPORTS AND RADIO AND TELEVISION REPORTS
• 06:22 AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST HONESTLY BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ENOUGH TIME TO GO INTO THAT.
• 06:27 WELL WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.
• 06:30 BUT JUST TO LOOK AT A MENU OF SOME ISSUES THAT WE CAN EXPLORE
• 06:33 IN CONTEXTS THAT ARE GERMANE TO THE EXPERIENCE IN MODERN ISRAEL TODAY...
• 06:37 WE'LL LOOK AT SOME ISSUES WITH YOU OF JERUSALEM...
• 06:42 BUILDING IN JERUSALEM...
• 06:43 SOME BORDER ISSUES...
• 06:44 WHAT ARE THE HOT SPOTS?
• 06:46 WHAT ARE SOME OTHER ONES THAT YOU THINK ARE WORTHY OF SOME EXPLORATION?
• 06:48 THE GOLAN HEIGHTS...
• 06:51 DOES ISRAEL HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE UP THERE AS IS IMPLIED?
• 06:56 WELL AGAIN THERE'S A HISTORICAL SITUATION THERE.
• 06:59 THAT WAS CONSIDERED PART OF THE LAND THAT ISRAEL WOULD GET,
• 07:03 THE JEWISH STATE WOULD GET, UNDER THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS MANDATE IN 1922.
• 07:07 IT WAS ONLY LATER REMOVED BY BRITAIN
• 07:09 AND MOVED OVER TO THE FRENCH MANDATE
• 07:11 TO SET UP THE STATE OF SYRIA.
• 07:13 DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THIS...
• 07:15 SO BASICALLY THE SITUATION IS MUCH MORE FLUID.
• 07:18 IT'S NOT NEARLY AS CONCRETE AS IT'S OFTEN PORTRAYED.
• 07:21 AND THAT'S ONE AREA.
• 07:22 THE GAZA STRIP IS ANOTHER.
• 07:24 THIS IS AN AREA THAT WAS OCCUPIED BY EGYPT IN 1948.
• 07:28 BEFORE THAT IT ALSO WAS IMPLIED
• 07:31 TO BE PART OF THE AREA THAT JEWS COULD SETTLE IN
• 07:34 AND IN FACT JEWS HAD LIVED THERE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
• 07:36 GAZA CITY AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW
• 07:38 WAS A CENTER OF JEWISH LIFE,
• 07:40 SO AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEGOTIATIONS
• 07:44 AND JEWS PULLING OUT OF THESE AREAS,
• 07:46 LET'S LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT AS WELL AND GET THAT IN MIND.
• 07:50 AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT
• 07:52 AND WE ARE GOING TO DO IT WITH YOU.
• 07:56 WE LOVE BRINGING YOU EXPERTS
• 07:58 AND WE'VE GOT A GOOD ONE...
• 08:00 HE'S GOING TO SHARE...
• 08:02 WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THE TRUTH OF ISRAEL AS WE CONTINUE WITH ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS.
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• 08:46 THE WAY ISRAEL IS MISREPRESENTED IN THE MEDIA REALLY SADDENS ME DEEPLY.
• 08:52 IN THE WORLD AT LARGE JEWS ARE VILIFIED
• 08:55 AND ISRAEL IS DISPARAGED OUTRIGHT IN SO MANY WAYS.
• 08:59 I COUNT IT AN HONOR...
• 09:02 I AM THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO COUNTERBALANCE THE DECEIT
• 09:06 WITH WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE MORE TRUTHFULNESS IN TELLING.
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• 10:45 THANK YOU
• 10:47 IT'S GOOD AGAIN TO BE HERE.
• 10:48 I WANT TO READ A BIBLICAL VERSE
• 10:50 AND ASK WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
• 10:51 IN PSALM 120 THE PSALMIST SAYS IN VERSE 7,
• 10:54 "I AM FOR PEACE BUT WHEN I SPEAK THEY ARE FOR WAR."
• 11:00 HE MEANT WELL,
• 11:02 HE FOUND HIMSELF IN A WORLD WHERE EVERYBODY WAS AT HIS THROAT.
• 11:07 IT SEEMS THAT'S THE CASE IN ISRAEL TODAY.
• 11:10 YOU KNOW JEFF I OFTEN QUOTE THAT PSALM,
• 11:13 THE ENTIRE PSALM,
• 11:14 IT'S A SHORT ONE,
• 11:16 WHEN I GO OUT SPEAKING TO CONGREGATIONS AND GROUPS
• 11:18 BECAUSE I THINK IT SO ADEQUATELY AND FULLY TYPIFIES THE SITUATION.
• 11:23 1947... THE JEWISH LEADERSHIP,
• 11:26 PRE-ISRAEL,
• 11:27 ACCEPTS THE U.N. PARTITION PLAN;
• 11:30 THE ARAB NATIONS REJECT IT AND GO TO WAR.
• 11:32 1967... EGYPT AND SYRIA LAUNCH A WAR
• 11:36 BACKED BY THE SOVIET UNION.
• 11:38 AFTERWARDS ISRAEL OFFERS TO GIVE BACK ALL OF THE CAPTURED TERRITORY...
• 11:41 THE SINAI PENINSULA, THE GOLAN HEIGHTS,
• 11:43 THE WEST BANK, JUDEA AND SAMARIA...
• 11:45 THE ARABS MEET IN KHARTOUM AND ISSUE THE FAMOUS "FOUR NO'S"...
• 11:49 NO NEGOTIATION...
• 11:50 NO PEACE...
• 11:51 THE OSLO PEACE ACCORDS WERE SIGNED IN 1993...
• 11:54 THEY END IN TERROR AND VIOLENCE...
• 11:56 NO PEACE.
• 11:58 AND AGAIN ISRAEL TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE PEACE TABLE THE PAST FEW YEARS...
• 12:01 THE PALESTINIAN LEADERSHIP GIVING THIS CONDITION
• 12:03 AND THAT CONDITION AND THIS CONDITION
• 12:05 AND THE TERRORISM CONTINUING.
• 12:07 SO IT EXACTLY TYPIFIES WHAT IS GOING ON.
• 12:09 IT DWARFS ME...
• 12:11 AND BY THE WAY WE DIDN'T JUST SET UP...
• 12:13 HERE I'M GOING TO QUOTE FROM A TEXT THAT YOU OFT EMPLOYED...
• 12:16 I MEAN I JUST KIND OF PULLED THAT OUT OF NOWHERE HERE...
• 12:18 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A "GO TO" TEXT FOR YOU.
• 12:21 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT JEWS AND ISRAEL
• 12:24 ARE REPRESENTED AS BEING INTRANSIGENT IN THEIR DISDAIN FOR ARABS,
• 12:29 THEIR REFUSAL TO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A PROCESS TO HELP ARABS COME INTO THEIR OWN...
• 12:35 THAT'S JUST COMPLETE NON-REALITY.
• 12:37 PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU LAST JUNE A YEAR AGO SAID
• 12:41 "WE WILL ACCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE,"
• 12:44 "A TWO-STATE SOLUTION".
• 12:46 THAT HAS BEEN SAID BY EHUD OLMERT BEFORE HIM AND OTHER ISRAELI LEADERS...
• 12:49 THE LATE YITZHAK RABIN...
• 12:51 SHIMON PEREZ, THE PRESIDENT OF ISRAEL.
• 12:53 THE DESIRE FOR REAL PEACE WITH PALESTINIANS IS DEFINITELY THERE
• 12:56 TO THE POINT THE OPINION POLLS SHOW
• 12:58 TWO-THIRDS OF THE ISRAELI PUBLIC
• 13:00 ARE WILLING TO TAKE YET ANOTHER RISK
• 13:03 AND GIVE UP YET MORE LAND.
• 13:05 NOW THEY PULLED OUT OF GAZA AND WHAT DID THEY GET?
• 13:08 ....ROCKETS.
• 13:09 THEY PULLED OUT OF LEBANON.
• 13:10 WHAT DID THEY GET?
• 13:11 ...ROCKETS.
• 13:12 WHICH MAKES IT ALL THE MORE NOBLE TO MY WAY OF THINKING BECAUSE...
• 13:16 HERE WE'LL GIVE LAND FOR PEACE....
• 13:18 AND HERE TAKE THE GAZA...
• 13:19 AND WHAT DO WE GET?
• 13:20 APPROACHING 10,000 ROCKETS.
• 13:22 TO BE WILLING TO DO IT AGAIN
• 13:24 MOST WOULDN'T TRY AGAIN,
• 13:26 WE'D JUST LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES.
• 13:28 AND IT IS TRUE THAT PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU ISSUED
• 13:32 A CONDITIONAL YES FOR THAT.
• 13:34 IN OTHER WORDS HE SAID IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A DEMILITARIZED STATE,
• 13:37 IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ONE THAT ISRAELI AIRCRAFT COULD FLY OVER
• 13:40 AND WATCH THE GROUND SITUATION, ETC.
• 13:43 THERE'S A FEW RESTRICTIONS
• 13:45 BUT STILL LIKE YOU SAY, TO BE WILLING...
• 13:48 A LIKUD PARTY LEADER OF THE RIGHT WING TO BE WILLING TO SAY,
• 13:51 "I DO ACCEPT IN PRINCIPLE THIS TWO-STATE SOLUTION"
• 13:54 IS AMAZING GIVEN THE RESULTS SO FAR.
• 13:56 BUT THAT IS BECAUSE AS THE PSALMIST SAID,
• 13:59 "I AM FOR PEACE"...
• 14:00 THE ISRAELIS DESPERATELY...
• 14:02 AND I'VE LIVED THERE 30 YEARS...
• 14:03 THIS IS NOT JUST A POLITICAL LINE OR PROPAGANDA...
• 14:07 THEY DESPERATELY WANT PEACE.
• 14:09 YOU KNOW EVERY YOUNG ISRAELI MALE AND MOST OF THE FEMALES,
• 14:13 THEY GO INTO THE ARMY.
• 14:14 PARENTS DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS GOING OFF TO WAR
• 14:16 ANYMORE THAN AMERICAN PARENTS WANT THAT.
• 14:18 BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO?
• 14:20 ISRAEL'S FOR PEACE...
• 14:21 THEY'RE WANTING WAR.
• 14:23 IRAN...SPONSORING THESE MILITIAS, HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH...
• 14:26 DID ISRAEL INVITE IRAN, A COUNTRY THEY WERE AT PEACE WITH
• 14:29 UNTIL THE SHAH WAS OVERTHROWN
• 14:30 TO COME AND SET UP THESE MILITIAS AND ATTACK THEM?
• 14:32 OF COURSE NOT.
• 14:34 THEY WANT PEACE BUT IT TAKES TWO TO REALLY MAKE PEACE.
• 14:37 AND HE SAYS HERE IN VERSE TWO,
• 14:39 "DELIVER MY SOUL OH LORD FROM LYING LIPS AND FROM A DECEITFUL TONGUE".
• 14:45 THERE'S SO MUCH OF THAT TODAY
• 14:47 WHERE JEWS ARE PAINTED AS A NEFARIOUS, EVIL SORT...
• 14:52 JUST RUNNING ROUGHSHOD OVER THE POOR,
• 14:55 DISPOSSESSED, DISENFRANCHISED ARAB PEOPLES
• 14:58 WHO HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY THEM...
• 15:00 COMPLETE, COMPLETE FANTASY.
• 15:02 IT IS AND YOU KNOW THE ISRAELI PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART,
• 15:05 THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THE ARABS ARE THEIR PHYSICAL COUSINS,
• 15:10 THAT THEY'VE LIVED IN THE REGION ALL THESE CENTURIES
• 15:12 AND THEY HAVE A RESPECT FOR THEM AND FOR THEIR CULTURE.
• 15:14 IN FACT WHEN YOU LISTEN TO YOUNG ISRAELIS SPEAKING,
• 15:17 HALF THE SLANG THEY USE IS ARABIC SLANG.
• 15:20 THERE'S A LOT OF INTERACTION BETWEEN THE CULTURES
• 15:23 AND THEY REALLY DO WANT PEACE.
• 15:24 AND TO BE FAIR THERE ARE OF COURSE ARAB LEADERS
• 15:26 THAT WANT IT AND HAVE IMPLEMENTED IT...
• 15:28 KING HUSSEIN OF JORDAN...
• 15:30 THE LATE KING HUSSEIN...
• 15:31 MUBARAK CARRIES OUT THE PEACE TREATY THAT SADDAT SIGNED IN EGYPT.
• 15:34 IT'S A COLD PIECE BUT NEVERTHELESS ITS THERE.
• 15:36 PARTS OF THE PALESTINIAN LEADERSHIP...
• 15:38 YASSER ARAFAT SIGNED AN ACCORD.
• 15:40 IT DIDN'T LAST BUT THEY DO REALLY WANT PEACE.
• 15:43 BUT THERE'S ENOUGH THERE THAT DON'T WANT IT
• 15:46 AND CONTINUE TO SAY ISRAEL'S THE PROBLEM,
• 15:48 ISRAEL'S THE INTRANSIGENT PARTY HERE
• 15:50 AND I CAN TELL YOU THE ISRAELI PEOPLE
• 15:53 WOULD GO ALMOST TO ANY DEGREE
• 15:55 TO HAVE REAL PEACE THAT WOULD REALLY END THE CONFLICT.
• 15:58 AFTER ALL THEY'RE FACING A WAR THAT AS THE DEFENSE MINISTER BARAK HAS WARNED,
• 16:03 A WAR THAT COULD COME HAT WOULD BRING IT INTO EVERYBODY'S HOME...
• 16:05 MISSILES IN EVERY CITY AND TOWN...
• 16:07 WHO WANTS THAT?
• 16:09 THEY DESPERATELY WANT PEACE BUT AGAIN IT TAKES TWO TO MAKE IT.
• 16:11 AND IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO.
• 16:14 I HAVE A CAREER IN THE PAST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
• 16:18 AND I'VE RESPONDED TO MANY HOMES IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE...
• 16:21 AND HE SAYS, "BOY IF SHE'D JUST DO THIS AND THAT AND THIS AND THAT THEN I'D BE HAPPY."
• 16:27 AND THEN SHE TRIES TO DO THIS AND THAT BUT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
• 16:30 THE CYCLE OF ABUSE CONTINUES IN HOMES
• 16:33 MUCH AS IT CONTINUES IN THE JEWISH HOMELAND.
• 16:38 ITS SPIRITUAL... IT'S TRAGIC
• 16:40 AND WE'LL EXPLORE THE STORY SOME MORE.
• 17:20 IN PSALM 137 THE AUTHOR SPOKE OF HOLDING JERUSALEM ABOVE HIS HIGHEST JOY.
• 17:28 IT IS SUCH A JOY FOR ME TO GO IN AND OUT OF ISRAEL.
• 17:31 AND IT WOULD BE A JOY FOR ME IF YOU WOULD COME WITH ME.
• 17:37 WE GO ALL THE TIME.
• 17:39 IT'S A THRILL FOR ME.
• 17:40 MORE IMPORTANTLY IT WOULD BE A THRILL FOR YOU
• 17:44 AS YOU VISIT THE ANCESTRAL, BIBLICAL HOMELAND;
• 17:48 AS YOU VISIT THE PLACE WHERE THE DRAMA WAS PLAYED OUT.
• 17:53 YOU READ ABOUT IT IN GOD'S WORD
• 17:55 AND AS YOU WALK THERE YOU MAY WELL HEAR THE LORD BREATHE A WORD INTO YOU AND SAY,
• 18:02 "THIS IS THE WAY - WALK IN IT."
• 18:05 IT'S A FASCINATING PLACE.
• 18:07 ITS A SAFE PLACE TO GO.
• 18:09 DO CONSIDER COMING WITH ME PLEASE.
• 18:14 THE LATE ZOLA LEVITT WILL SHARE SOME MUSIC RIGHT NOW
• 18:17 AND I KNOW THAT YOUR HEART WILL BE BLESSED AS YOU HEAR MUSIC FROM ZOLA LEVITT.
• 18:36 (ZOLA PLAYING THE FLUTE)
• 20:18 I DIDN'T WRITE THIS BOOK...
• 20:20 IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE IN PSALM 137 RELATIVE TO JERUSALEM
• 20:24 HOW PEOPLE IN VERSE 7 ARE SAYING,
• 20:26 "LET US DESTROY IT...LET US BURN IT...BURN IT TO THE GROUND RIGHT DOWN TO ITS FOUNDATIONS."
• 20:31 IT'S RIGHT THERE.
• 20:34 JERUSALEM IN HEBREW "YERUSHALAYIM", "CITY OF PEACE",
• 20:39 OH HOW IT GENERATES TENSION THEN AS NOW. >>YES
• 20:46 DAVID DOLAN YOU LIVE THERE, TELL ME ABOUT IT.
• 20:48 I LIVE RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF JERUSALEM.
• 20:51 YOU'VE BEEN TO MY APARTMENT.
• 20:52 I LOOK OUT OVER THE TEMPLE MOUNT IN THE OLD CITY
• 20:55 AND IT'S A LOVELY VIEW
• 20:56 BUT AS YOU SAY YOU CAN OFTEN FEEL THE TENSION.
• 20:59 I CAN SOMETIMES HEAR THE FRIDAY PRAYERS COMING FROM THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
• 21:03 THE MUSLIM PRAYERS UP THERE,
• 21:05 YOU CAN HEAR THE ANGER IN THE VOICE OFTEN OF THE IMAMS,
• 21:08 THE PREACHERS THAT ARE SPEAKING.
• 21:10 YOU SEE IT MANIFESTED OFTEN IN CLASHES AND POLICE ACTIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
• 21:15 SO IT IS THE CITY OF PEACE
• 21:17 BUT UNTIL THE MESSIAH COMES TO REIGN AND RULE FROM THE CITY
• 21:20 THERE'S GOING TO BE CLASHES AND TENSION.
• 21:22 AND OF COURSE THE SCRIPTURES TOLD US THAT...
• 21:24 THE MESSIAH TOLD US THAT DURING HIS FIRST APPEARANCE.
• 21:26 IN AMERICA WE PLACE A PREMIUM ON THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH
• 21:31 AND AREN'T KINDLY DISPOSED TOWARD THOSE WHO USE IT TO INCITE,
• 21:35 HOWEVER, IN JERUSALEM ON A WEEKLY BASIS THE CITY OPENS UP
• 21:40 FOR INDIVIDUALS OF THE ISLAMIC FAITH
• 21:43 TO HEAR THEIR LEADERS SPEAK AND THEY DOLE OUT INVECTIVE ALL THE TIME.
• 21:48 AND EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT I SOMETIMES WAKE UP
• 21:51 AND I HEAR THE CALL TO PRAYER AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING FROM THE MOSQUE
• 21:55 AND I DON'T SPEAK ARABIC FLUENTLY
• 21:58 BUT I UNDERSTAND QUITE A BIT,I WORKED IN LEBANON, ETC.
• 22:02 I HAVE HEARD THE LIVE CALL TO PRAYER
• 22:05 PRAISING HEZBOLLAH, PRAISING HAMAS,
• 22:09 PRAISING ACTS OF TERROR.
• 22:10 THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN MOST ISRAELIS ARE ASLEEP.
• 22:14 THERE'S A FEW POLICEMEN OUT, A FEW BORDER POLICEMEN
• 22:15 BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY MONITORING THINGS
• 22:18 AND THE ARAB POPULACE IS HEARING THIS INCITEMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
• 22:22 TO PRAISE THESE TERROR GROUPS AND TERRORISTS.
• 22:25 IT'S REALLY QUITE A SHAME.
• 22:27 NOW MOST OF THE TIME I HAVE TO SAY THEY DON'T DO THAT
• 22:29 BUT OCCASIONALLY YOU HEAR THAT
• 22:31 ESPECIALLY IN TIMES OF HEIGHTENED TENSION.
• 22:33 AND I'M INCLINED TO THINK THAT WHILE THE TENSION ENTAILS LAND AND STICKS AND BRICKS,
• 22:38 WHO LIVES WHERE, HOMES HERE AND THERE...
• 22:41 ITS NOT ABOUT LANDS,
• 22:42 ITS NOT ABOUT STICKS AND BRICKS...
• 22:44 THERE'S SOME SPIRITUAL COMPONENT THAT DRIVES THESE FORCES
• 22:48 AND IT SEEMS TO COME TO A HEAD IN JERUSALEM.
• 22:52 WELL OF COURSE THE GOD OF ISRAEL WHO SAID,
• 22:55 "I'M THE ONLY GOD AND ALL OTHERS ARE FALSE GODS" SAID,
• 22:59 "I WILL PLACE MY FEET IN JERUSALEM."
• 23:02 "THIS WILL BE THE FOOTSTOOL FOR MY FEET."
• 23:05 "THE TEMPLE TO MY NAME WILL BE BUILT HERE."
• 23:07 THE MESSIAH WILL REIGN FROM HERE...
• 23:09 SO HE DESIGNATED THAT PIECE OF LAND.
• 23:12 AND YOU KNOW I LOVE TO LIVE IN JERUSALEM
• 23:14 BUT I ALSO LOVE TO GO DOWN TO TEL AVIV BECAUSE I LIKE THE WATER.
• 23:17 THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL PHYSICALLY ABOUT JERUSALEM...
• 23:20 ITS NOT ON A LAKE OR A RIVER OR A SEA BED OR ANYTHING.
• 23:23 I LIKE THE MOUNTAINS AND STUFF
• 23:24 BUT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PHYSICAL PLACE ON EARTH
• 23:27 BUT IT IS THE SPIRITUAL CENTER THAT GOD DESIGNATED.
• 23:30 AND OF COURSE THE BIBLE SAYS THERE'S AN ENEMY TO GOD...SATAN.
• 23:34 AND HE KNOWS THE SCRIPTURES AND HE FIGHTS AGAINST THAT ALL THE TIME.
• 23:38 RIGHT AND ALL THE TIME HUNDREDS OF TIMES IN THE BIBLE
• 23:41 JERUSALEM IS SACRED TO GOD.
• 23:43 HE MAKES HIS NAME TO DWELL THERE.
• 23:45 WHAT'S INTERESTING IS NOWHERE IS JERUSALEM MENTIONED IN THE QURAN
• 23:49 YET INDIVIDUALS OF THE ISLAMIC PERSUASION ARGUE...
• 23:52 "THIS IS OUR LAND..."
• 23:53 "THIS IS OUR REAL ESTATE... WE LIVE HERE..."
• 23:55 "THE JEWS HAVE NO PLACE HERE."
• 23:56 THE FACT THAT CHRISTIANS CAN BELIEVE IT...
• 24:00 THE FACT THAT BIBLE BELIEVERS CAN BUY THE NARRATIVE
• 24:04 IS THE EPITOME OF SPIRITUAL BLINDNESS IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.
• 24:09 AND I WOULD SAY ALSO BIBLICAL IGNORANCE
• 24:11 BECAUSE YOU CAN'T READ THE BIBLE WITHOUT JERUSALEM BEING MENTIONED...
• 24:15 WHAT IS IT...700 SOME TIMES THAT IT'S MENTIONED IN THERE?
• 24:18 IT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE JEBUSITE PERIOD
• 24:21 BEFORE KING DAVID EVEN CAPTURED IT, IT'S MENTIONED.
• 24:24 AND THEN HIS CAPTURE,
• 24:26 THE REIGN OF ALL THE KINGS THERE,
• 24:28 ALL THE MIRACLES THAT TOOK PLACE THERE,
• 24:29 ALLTHE PROPHETS THAT OPERATED OUT OF THERE...
• 24:31 IT IS THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE BIBLE.
• 24:33 AND OF COURSE IT IS THE PLACE THAT JESUS HIMSELF,
• 24:36 YESHUA HIMSELF, PROPHESIED WOULD NOT ONLY BE THE CENTER OF CONFLICT
• 24:40 BUT THE PLACE HE WOULD COME BACK TO.
• 24:42 SO HOW YOU CAN BE A CHRISTIAN AND NOT SEE IT
• 24:44 AS THE CENTER OF THE EARTH IS REALLY A MYSTERY.
• 24:48 EVEN PEOPLE THAT ARE NOMINALLY CHRISTIAN,
• 24:51 THEY'RE NOT REALLY BIBLICALLY LITERATE OR BIBLICALLY ENGAGED,
• 24:54 BUT JUST IN MEMORY PEOPLE KNOW JESUS WAS A JEW,
• 24:57 HE CAME TO ISRAEL,
• 24:59 IT'S THE ANCESTRAL HOMELAND,
• 25:00 MOSES LED THE PEOPLE FROM EGYPT...
• 25:03 THERE'S STUFF IN THE CULTURAL SCRIPT THAT PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW...
• 25:07 WAIT A MINUTE...
• 25:09 EVEN IF THEY DON'T SPEND THEIR TIME POURING THROUGH THE BIBLICAL TEXT...
• 25:11 IN MEMORY PEOPLE KNOW DARN WELL THAT LAND BELONGS TO JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 25:16 IN PSALM 105...
• 25:18 I OFTEN QUOTE THAT...
• 25:19 IT SAYS...GOD SAYS,
• 25:21 "I HAVE THIS LAND... IT'S MINE..."
• 25:23 "BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO ABRAHAM'S DESCENDANTS"
• 25:25 "THROUGH ISAAC AND JACOB AS AN EVERLASTING COVENANT."
• 25:30 "AD OLAM" IN HEBREW, "UNTIL ETERNITY"
• 25:33 THIS IS GOING TO BE A COVENANT FOR A THOUSAND GENERATIONS IT SAYS.
• 25:37 THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME.
• 25:38 IT IS A LONG TIME AND IT MEANS OF COURSE
• 25:40 THAT GOD HAS ALREADY MADE UP HIS MIND...
• 25:42 THIS IS WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT IT.
• 25:44 NOW DOES THAT MEAN THAT ARABS CAN'T LIVE THERE?NO
• 25:47 DOES IT MEAN THAT PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF
• 25:48 OF A GENTILE BACKGROUND CAN'T BE THERE?NO
• 25:50 THERE WAS ALWAYS OTHER CULTURES AND OTHER PEOPLE GROUPS
• 25:54 THERE IN KING DAVID'S TIME AND THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY
• 25:56 BUT IT MEANS IT BELONGS PRIMARILY TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 25:59 AND THE IDEA IN PARTICULAR
• 26:01 THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN CONTROL OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
• 26:03 THE HOLIEST SITE ON EARTH FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE FOR 3,000 YEARS
• 26:06 IS A PRETTY ABSURD CONTENTION I WOULD SAY.
• 26:09 YES, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE ABSURD
• 26:12 AND IN SOME WAYS FOR MY MONEY JUST PLAIN EVIL.
• 26:18 NEXT WEEK WE'LL BE HEARING FROM DAVID DOLAN AGAIN.
• 26:22 AFTER THAT A SERIES THAT WE DID IN PROPHECY,
• 26:27 WE LOOKED AT THE BOOK OF ESTHER
• 26:29 AND CONSIDERED HOW A WICKED MAN RAISED HIS HOARY HEAD TO DESTROY THE JEWS
• 26:35 BUT GOD RAISED UP A WOMAN TO STAND.
• 26:38 INASMUCH AS GOD HAS RAISED UP DAVID IN HIS DAY,
• 26:42 YOU IN YOUR WAY AND ME IN MINE,
• 26:44 SO IT IS THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE GOD RAISES PEOPLE TO STAND FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 26:48 THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT
• 26:49 AND AS YOU GO NOW,
• 26:51 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM
• 26:53 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM