zolachat_2001-07-31

irc.christian-chat.net #Zola_Levitt_Ministries 7/31/2001 7:26 PM CT NOTES: 1. Some messages have been moved from their original order for the sake of readability. A few typos were corrected to reduce confusion. 2. All questions have been relayed to "tovah," who reposted them for Zola to answer. 3. Zola's son Mark is typing Zola's responses. He is often marking the end of his replies with the word "End." ---------------------------------------- 7:26 PM: tovah tells room we will moderate the room to save on confusion 7:26 PM: tula: any questions that were sent to Tovah will be give to Zola one at a time 7:26 PM: tovah: if you have questions for zola, please send to Tovah pc 7:26 PM: *** Mode change "+m" on #Zola_Levitt_Ministries by fry 7:26 PM: fry: room is now moderated 7:27 PM: tovah: <Gavri`el> I am a gentile saved by the Grace of my Lord Jesus Christ. I have heard comments that gentiles saved by God are not Jews outwardly but are Jews inwardly. Any scriptual backing for this. 7:30 PM: tovah: zola are you there 7:30 PM: *** Mode change "+v Zola" on #Zola_Levitt_Ministries by bethany 7:30 PM: Zola: Yes. 7:30 PM: Zola: At least I feel like I'm here. 7:30 PM: tovah: 3L12aughs 3O12ut 3L12oud 7:31 PM: Zola: I did and answered it twice: Romans 9. 7:31 PM: tovah: sorry zola no one head you..you will have to speak louder 7:31 PM: Zola: Arms, legs, neck. Yep, here. 7:31 PM: GregH: Zola was muted like the rest of the room. Sorry! He's OK now. 7:31 PM: Zola: A guy asks if Psalm 83 is about Arab-Israeli wars . . . 7:32 PM: Zola: Psalm 83 concerns wars of Biblical Israel, but not those of the church age. 7:31 PM: tovah: In Luke chapter 20 it refers to the son of Man coming as it was in the days of Noah. And it refers to If you try to save your life you will lose it but if you lose your life you will save it and it refers to what happened to Lots wife when she tur 7:32 PM: tovah: is that the end of your answer zola 7:33 PM: Zola: Romans 9 was my answer to that first question about becoming inwardly Jewish upon salvation. Still waiting for the last part of the second question. 7:33 PM: tovah gives mark instruction book on how to end a question 7:33 PM: Zola: Will say "end" at end of answers. Missed the rest of the question about Luke 20. 7:33 PM: Zola: end. 7:33 PM: tovah: the question is all I received zola..I figure she meant when Lots wife turned 7:34 PM: Zola: Please send a new question, Tovah. End. 7:34 PM: tovah: <tuffy> what is the difference between the Last Supper that Jesus told us to do in remembrance of Him and Passover? 7:35 PM: Zola: Passover celebrates the exodus from Egypt . . . 7:35 PM: Zola: The Last Supper celebrates the Messiah's sacrifice for us . . . 7:35 PM: Zola: "This is my blood ..." End. 7:35 PM: tovah: What value to us are the writings of the church fathers? Should our children memorize the creeds? 7:36 PM: Zola: I don't think our children should memorize the creeds . . . 7:36 PM: Zola: The church fathers were influenced by their own times and politics . . . 7:36 PM: Zola: especially concerning the Jews. I assume you mean Augustine, etc., not the Apostles. End. 7:36 PM: tovah: <Yn> regarding Luke 20 I wanted to hear how we are to be prepared because it says those who try to save their life will lose it and those who lose their life will save it. How are we to deal with that 7:37 PM: Zola: Regarding Luke 20, we "lose our lives" when we are saved ... 7:37 PM: Zola: and the old creature dies. End. 7:37 PM: tovah: could you please explain how the tribulation will affect America 7:38 PM: Zola: The America left behind after the Rapture will probably ally with the antichrist and the western European confederacy in a NATO-like coalition. End. 7:40 PM: tovah: what would Zola recommend us to have our children memorize, if he feels that is an issue of importance 7:40 PM: ZolaLevitt: It's nice to memorize the Psalms. End. 7:40 PM: ZolaLevitt: The Sermon on the Mount is also basic teaching. End. 7:40 PM: tovah: <Saha> my question is... In Revelation 22:19 says : ... and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, GOD shall take away his part from the Book of Life... is this means a person can be unsaved due to some kind of sin even once he/she is saved ? 7:41 PM: ZolaLevitt: No serious believer would attempt to add to Scripture. Those doing that ... 7:41 PM: ZolaLevitt: for whatever purposes would forfeit their place with God. End. 7:42 PM: tovah: <bethany> Why did John say that no man had seen God at any time, when it is clear that Jesus was/is God? Jesus forgave sins and accepted worship. We know from Isa 42:8 that God will not give His glory to another. In Matthew 4:10 Jesus quotes to satan that no one is to be worshipped but God. In Matthew 28:9 Jesus is worshipped by others and He does not stop them from worshipping Him. This either makes Jesus a complete fraud or God Himself. So why 7:42 PM: bethany: does John say that no man has seen God at any time? 7:43 PM: ZolaLevitt: Bethany, you seem like you're nitpicking. It will help you to appreciate that John referred to normal men in normal circumstances. End. 7:44 PM: tovah: <Friend-of-Zion> Question.... God says that He will curse those who curse Israel. Is there any evidence of that with the Arab nations today? 7:44 PM: ZolaLevitt: Of course there is evidence that God is cursing the Arab nations today . . . 7:45 PM: ZolaLevitt: They are backward, disliked by almost all other nations and suffer short life spans, unclean conditions, lack of education, etc., etc. 7:45 PM: fry: and they talk funny too 7:45 PM: ZolaLevitt: Right, Fry! : ) 7:45 PM: fry: oops.....sorry...that was supposed to be a whisper 7:46 PM: fry: <-------hangs himself 7:45 PM: tovah: <EndTimer> What do you believe the mark of the beast will be? 7:45 PM: tovah: [19:41] <EndTimer> And...... 7:45 PM: tovah: [19:42] <EndTimer> In revelation 14, Jehovah mentions "I come as a thief"... 7:45 PM: tovah: [19:42] <EndTimer> is this in reference to the rapture? Does it mean the rapture will occur during the trib? Or will there be a second rapture? 7:46 PM: ZolaLevitt: The mark of the beast enters each citizen into the antichrist's economic program ... 7:46 PM: ZolaLevitt: The church will be long gone in the Rapture. 7:46 PM: ZolaLevitt: End. 7:46 PM: tovah: <Rhonda> Ah . could you please explain how the tribulation will affect America 7:46 PM: tovah: [19:37] <Rhonda> I get two different points of view one say we will not be involved in the one world Gov't and others say we will? thanks 7:46 PM: tovah: [19:40] <Rhonda> Why? thanks 7:47 PM: ZolaLevitt: The America left after the Rapture will be a society of unbelievers involved in the Tribulation like all other unbelievers. End. 7:48 PM: tovah: <Smogzilla> what's the deal with paul's instruction that no woman speak in church?? or ask questions?? 1Cr 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not 7:48 PM: tovah: <Smogzilla> permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under 7:48 PM: tovah: [19:38] <Smogzilla> obedience, as also saith the law. 7:49 PM: ZolaLevitt: Paul specifies that his instruction is according to Jewish law, which was the spiritual authority in the worship of his time. End. 7:49 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> Do you think the two jewish witnesses in Revelation are two new people like the prophets of old or are they OT ppl returned to witness to Israel? 7:49 PM: tovah: [19:45] <mirandamirage> Is the church or the rapture of the church mentioned in the Old Testament at all? 7:50 PM: ZolaLevitt: First question: I think that the two witnesses may be Enoch and Elijah, or possibly Moses and Elijah. It could be that they "will be new people." ... 7:51 PM: ZolaLevitt: Second question: The church and the Rapture are specifically not mentioned in the OT but are considered a "mystery" by Paul. End. 7:51 PM: tovah: <Friend-of-Zion> Keeping in mind that I would like to witness to Jewish people, would it be advisable to get a copy of the Jewish Torah in order to better witness to them? 7:51 PM: ZolaLevitt: Not really, Friend. Not many of them understand Torah, and those that do have added quite a bit of tradition. End. 7:52 PM: tovah: <Floyd> Will or is the antichrist of Roman descent or Jewish. Thanks for being you, Zola, We love you. 7:52 PM: ZolaLevitt: You're welcome, Floyd. I don't think the antichrist will be Jewish, for a host of reasons. He seems to rise to power out of a revived Roman empire. End. 7:53 PM: tovah: <zeaal> Why does Zola think the US Media is not reporting the truth in Israel? 7:53 PM: ZolaLevitt: <-- laughing & thinking . . . 7:53 PM: ZolaLevitt: I don't think so; I know so. 7:54 PM: ZolaLevitt: Please see our archived Levitt Letters at www.levitt.com and ... 7:54 PM: ZolaLevitt: enter CAMERA into the web site's search engine . . . 7:55 PM: ZolaLevitt: The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting was founded and is dedicated solely to exposing and correcting inaccurate reporting of news in Israel. End. 7:55 PM: tovah: <Hoo> when will Zola be at Shalom Shalom, the congregation that meets at the Biblical Arts Center in Dallas on Friday evenings at 7:30 — ? 7:56 PM: ZolaLevitt: That's my plan, except when I'm in Israel for the first half of September — leading a tour and feeling (&being) safer than I do in Dallas! : ) End. 7:56 PM: tovah: <Rhonda> Will the mark othe beast . Well I hear that it could be in the form of a pill by some people. Do u have to willing take it or can it be forced. thanks 7:56 PM: tovah: <Rhonda> Do you think the mark is here since there has ben rumours of chip implant in people in Europe. Can the Mark be forced on you or is it willing taken? 7:57 PM: ZolaLevitt: The mark of the beast will be on the skin of the hand and forehead. ... 7:57 PM: ZolaLevitt: I think it's taken willingly by unbelievers (like the social security number). ... 7:58 PM: ZolaLevitt: The forerunners of this chip-implant technology are with us today. End. 7:58 PM: tovah: <Yn> Tell Zola Thank you for that answer. I was fearful that we would all have to deal with maryterdom or the gilatines or something horrible 7:58 PM: tovah: <tuffy> what is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit for which there is no hope of salvation? 7:58 PM: tovah: [19:43] <tuffy> Can a person lose salvation after being born again? 7:58 PM: tovah: [19:48] <tuffy> some of our brothers and sisters in Christ are Arabs and feel we are fatalistic in our views concerning Arabs. How do you respond to criticism that we are unfeeling towards the Arabs? 7:59 PM: ZolaLevitt: Believers only have to deal with heaven and the Kingdom — not the tribulation. Please see our upcoming TV series, "Thy Kingdom Come," beginning in about six weeks. 7:59 PM: ZolaLevitt: Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is simply unbelief. 7:59 PM: ZolaLevitt: No, a person cannot lose salvation after being born again. 8:00 PM: ZolaLevitt: We take a biblical view of Israel enemies, including the Arabs. We certainly have no quarrel with Christians of any nationality. End. 8:00 PM: tovah: <^Chuck> There is a great "push" within the Christian community to move back to observing the feasts and festivals. If a believer is not a Jewish believer, i.e., a Gentile, isn't there no need to? Didn't Paul teach that there is a difference between Jewish believers and Gentiles? 8:01 PM: ZolaLevitt: Col 2:16-17 says ... 8:02 PM: ZolaLevitt: "These feasts are types of the Messiah." Since we already have him, ... 8:02 PM: ZolaLevitt: we need not observe them. There is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ, Chuck. End. 8:02 PM: tovah: <Friend-of-Zion> Is it possible for a gentile to go to a rabbinical school, and/or, are there Messianic Rabbinical schools? 8:03 PM: ZolaLevitt: Yes & yes on a Gentile going to rabbinical school and there being Messian Rabbinical schools. ... 8:03 PM: tovah: What is Zola's opinion of Benny Hinn 8:04 PM: ZolaLevitt: Insofar as he is biblical, I feel as good about him as any other biblical teacher. End. 8:04 PM: tovah: <Bob> With the current situation in Israel how close do you think we are to the Tribulation. Realistically are we still years away? 8:05 PM: ZolaLevitt: I don't know how to say how close we are to the tribulation ... 8:05 PM: ZolaLevitt: but if it's a question of your salvation, I would take care of it before this page flips over. : ) 8:07 PM: ZolaLevitt: end, yes. But here's a question from me: 8:07 PM: tovah listens 8:07 PM: ZolaLevitt: Where would we be if the Jews had accepted the Kingdom? 8:07 PM: ZolaLevitt: And, Tovah, your next question? End. 8:07 PM: tovah is contemplating that answer..ok 8:07 PM: tovah: <BH-afk> God saves by His grace, and yet He also has given the law "teaching", so wouldn't it make sense to view obeying God's commandments as the works that are the result of placing faith in God? 8:08 PM: ZolaLevitt: Salvation is always by faith (having a little trouble interpreting the question; sorry). 8:08 PM: ZolaLevitt: End. 8:09 PM: tovah: <Boeing2> does zola believe that what is practiced in modern pentecostal churches as tongues — "unintelligible spiritual language without interpretation" is the same thing as the biblical gift of tongues (re: joel and acts), or a modern day falsehood? 8:09 PM: ZolaLevitt: I am more convinced by the tongues in Scripture than I am by today's miracle gifts. End. 8:10 PM: tovah: <blobber> I am interested in the shows you had with Gerald Schroder, and about the book you co-authored with him. how did you meet him? 8:11 PM: ZolaLevitt: Our Israeli TV producer, Bill Dakman, thought he would provide an interesting interview. You can see one or more of his programs anytime at www.levitt.com by clicking on "Zola on Internet TV." 8:11 PM: ZolaLevitt: End. Thanks for visiting, Blobber. 8:11 PM: tovah: <Leila> ?answer to Zola...if the Jews has accepted the Kingdom, or when the Jews accept the Kingdom, it will be here 8:12 PM: ZolaLevitt: Thanks, Leila. End. 8:13 PM: ZolaLevitt: BTW, visit www.goisrael.com to see testimonials ... 8:14 PM: ZolaLevitt: of people who recently have travelled to Israel and witnessed the "dangers." 8:14 PM: ZolaLevitt: At least two of them witnessed *staged* cinematography of stone throwing by Palestinians. 8:15 PM: ZolaLevitt: It's almost funny. You might even visit CAMERA's web site for an amazing ... 8:15 PM: ZolaLevitt: group (20 - 40) of photographers all gathered behind an Arab with a sling. 8:16 PM: ZolaLevitt: So many photographers with their expenses cameras & zoom lenses wouldn't gather where Israelis were supposedly counterattacking with helicopters & tanks, if you get my drift. 8:16 PM: pattys: [20:08] <bethany> Some believe a third Temple will be built. Do you? If it is built will it be necessary to build it at the former site where the Muslim's dome is now? 8:17 PM: ZolaLevitt: I do Scriptures, not rumors and whisperings. I hope you understand. BTW, I'm not familiar with the rumors of which you speak, but then I'm happy to occupy myself with the Bible. 8:18 PM: ZolaLevitt: Regarding the Third Temple, it has to be built on the appropriate site on Mt. Moriah. ... 8:18 PM: ZolaLevitt: Scripture refers to it several times — see Rev 11:1-3. 8:19 PM: ZolaLevitt: Thanks, EndTimer for you kind complement(s). 8:19 PM: ZolaLevitt: End. 8:19 PM: pattys: [20:09] <blobber> continuing on this topic: How did you manage to get consent from Gerald Schroder to co-author a book? Do you think, that since he is openly an Orthodox Jew who minds the methods and goals of your ministry? Do you think he is supportive on your goals? or neutral? or opposed? 8:20 PM: ZolaLevitt: Gerald and I have in common our belief in Israel, and we both seek to explain God's creation. End. 8:20 PM: pattys: [20:09] <Bob> Is war imminent in Israel?? 8:21 PM: ZolaLevitt: I have no connection with the film "Megiddo." 8:21 PM: ZolaLevitt: I don't think any major war will come up before the tribulation. End. 8:21 PM: pattys: [20:09] <oreo^> Have you heard that Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount last September to verify that the Ark of the Covenant was there in the catacombs underneath? If so, do you know if he saw it? 8:22 PM: ZolaLevitt: I don't believe that's true, Orea. 8:23 PM: ZolaLevitt: Oreo; sorry. End. 8:23 PM: pattys: [20:12] <Friend-of-Zion> About the Jewish feasts and festivals....... don't they hold a certain importance for Jewish and Gentile Christians? They all point to the Messiah, so aren't they comforting to us? It isn't wrong to practice them, right? 8:24 PM: ZolaLevitt: The Jewish feasts and festivals are laws of God and can never be wrong ... 8:24 PM: ZolaLevitt: but we do not observe them for reasons I gave before. ... 8:24 PM: ZolaLevitt: Moishe Rosen says we should celebrate them but not observe them. ... 8:24 PM: ZolaLevitt: In other words, we should understand their magnificence but not literally perform them. End. 8:25 PM: pattys: [20:09] <anson> How might believers outside of Israel most effectively contribute to the evangelization of the Jews? 8:25 PM: ZolaLevitt: Our ministry sends missionaries to Israel as well as ... 8:26 PM: ZolaLevitt: pilgrims and all our other materials. ... 8:26 PM: ZolaLevitt: You can also support good ministries in Israel. End. 8:26 PM: pattys: [20:16] <blobber> Revelation 11:1-3 reminds me of Ezekiel; but Ezekiel also says that in this, as yet not built, temple, there will be sin sacrifices. So, in a functioning 3rd temple there will be sin sacrifice. But Jesus is supposed to be (clearly) the "Once and for all" final sacrifice. This is confusing, how do you resolve these two different scriptural views? 8:27 PM: ZolaLevitt: Well, Blobber, ... 8:27 PM: ZolaLevitt: It is the unsaved Jews who build the Third Temple. They need the blood sacrifices since they don't have the Messiah. 8:28 PM: ZolaLevitt: I hope, Blobber, that you have the Messiah, so that your price of salvation will be paid in full (and you won't have to build any temples or do any sacrifices)! End. 8:28 PM: tovah: <neighbor> Hi, Wondering about possible internet congregations; since we do not truly identify ourselves are we gathered even now ( ref: Mat18:19,20) or do we need to gather face to face,What of the prayer board as example? 8:30 PM: ZolaLevitt: I believe that fellowship is a spiritual matter. People who talk face-to-face may not be having fellowship, though those praying together on the telephone may have the most meaningful conversations of their lives. 8:30 PM: ZolaLevitt: End. 8:30 PM: tovah: <Leila> what is the difference in celebrating or observing the feasts? 8:31 PM: ZolaLevitt: How many Christians celebrate Halloween without observing it? 8:31 PM: ZolaLevitt: Zola is taking a short telephone break but says he wants to answer a couple of extra questions. 8:33 PM: GregH: I have a related question: <DavidG> What do you think of Believers celebrating Christmas (Dec. 25)?Ê 8:33 PM: ZolaLevitt: There is nothing wrong with celebrating the birth of Christ, even if you're not sure when it happened. 8:29 PM: *** DepressedAndLostDude (java@user-2inims6.dialup.mindspring.com) has joined channel #Zola_Levitt_Ministries 8:33 PM: ZolaLevitt: Depressed . . . 8:33 PM: ZolaLevitt: if you are born once, then you will die twice . . . 8:34 PM: ZolaLevitt: if you are born twice, then you will die once. . . . 8:34 PM: ZolaLevitt: What will it cost you, Depressed, to give Jesus a chance? 8:34 PM: ZolaLevitt: Now that you have failed to make yourself happy, to fulfill yourself, 8:35 PM: ZolaLevitt: why not give Jesus a chance? What's your hurry to leave this life when the Rapture and eternal life (and joy) could be just around the corner? 8:34 PM: *** Mode change "+v DepressedAndLostDude" on #Zola_Levitt_Ministries by GregH 8:35 PM: GregH: Depressed is allowed to talk now 8:35 PM: ZolaLevitt: People ask themselves what there is to live for, right? 8:35 PM: DepressedA: i feel am not worth anything 8:35 PM: ZolaLevitt: Well, Depressed, what do you have to die for? 8:36 PM: ZolaLevitt: Perhaps without Jesus you are worth very much. But to Him, you were worth dying for. 8:36 PM: DepressedA: cause i think my life stinks 8:36 PM: ZolaLevitt: Jesus died so that you could live, even if you may face persecution. 8:36 PM: ZolaLevitt: Satan wants you to believe that life isn't worth living, but even earthly life is a gift from God. 8:37 PM: ZolaLevitt: Question: If your life isn't worth living, then why not give it to Christ? 8:37 PM: DepressedA: and i cant break away from what am into now 8:37 PM: ZolaLevitt: What are you into now, Depressed? 8:37 PM: DepressedA: drinking and getting high and all 8:37 PM: ZolaLevitt: Is there a sin for which Christ's blood was insufficiently pure and abundant to cleanse you? 8:38 PM: ZolaLevitt: God can deliver you from drinking and getting high. He's done it before, and ... 8:38 PM: ZolaLevitt: the fact that you want deliverance is a huge step in the right direction. 8:38 PM: DepressedA: how can he take that away from me Zola 8:39 PM: ZolaLevitt: You might consider visiting AA or a 12-step program. 8:39 PM: DepressedA: last night i was sittin around looking at a razor and wanted to die so bad 8:39 PM: ZolaLevitt: You will find some believers among them who have been through what you're suffering with. And they'll want to help you + 8:39 PM: ZolaLevitt: enable to help others in the future as you need help now. 8:40 PM: ZolaLevitt: Count your blessings that you're able to pinpoint & verbalize your problem. 8:40 PM: ZolaLevitt: Now we're down to the issue of courage. 8:40 PM: DepressedA: i was makin this my last week here 8:40 PM: ZolaLevitt: The courage to seek help, though you may feel put on the spot. 8:40 PM: ZolaLevitt: *Was!* 8:40 PM: DepressedA: i still am some 8:41 PM: ZolaLevitt: I'm already encouraged. Why not go to church? Why not see how you can get involved in rebuilding your life? 8:41 PM: DepressedA: am hurtin bad 8:41 PM: ZolaLevitt: I don't blame you. Satan has you right where he wants you. (Except this room, of course.) 8:41 PM: ZolaLevitt: You're here for a cure, and that cure is the grace of God. 8:41 PM: DepressedA: how do i find him 8:41 PM: DepressedA: how do i know that hes real 8:41 PM: ZolaLevitt: Grace can deliver you from sin and heal your wounds — soothe you pain. This is a need you have to the point of it being a matter of life or death. 8:42 PM: ZolaLevitt: You have to give Him a try!! 8:42 PM: ZolaLevitt: You were willing to give booze & drugs a try; those seemed worth the risk. 8:42 PM: ZolaLevitt: Well, why not take a chance on the Alpha & the Omega, the Way/Truth/Light? 8:43 PM: ZolaLevitt: What have you got to lose, loser? (A little joke there.) 8:43 PM: DepressedA: ok i will give it a try 8:43 PM: ZolaLevitt: If you're ready to celebrate life that will last forever, 8:43 PM: ZolaLevitt: Wait, what did you say?! 8:43 PM: DepressedA: ok i will give it a try 8:43 PM: ZolaLevitt: Are you ready to confess your sins? 8:43 PM: DepressedA: yeah 8:43 PM: ZolaLevitt: Are you in a position to say that you need Jesus enough to accept his gift of grace? 8:43 PM: ZolaLevitt: Are you ready to mean it? 8:43 PM: DepressedA: yes 8:44 PM: ZolaLevitt: The problem with saying a prayer that you don't mean is that it might not mean anything, but I think you're sincere. 8:44 PM: ZolaLevitt: What are you going to do after you make Christ the center of your life? 8:44 PM: DepressedA: tears are comin down my face 8:44 PM: ZolaLevitt: What are you going to do for yourself tomorrow, D&L? 8:44 PM: ZolaLevitt: Do you have a Bible? 8:45 PM: DepressedA: live for him Zola turn away from bad stuff 8:45 PM: ZolaLevitt: There are some seeds that farmers plant that land on rock. 8:45 PM: DepressedA: i have a little one around 8:45 PM: ZolaLevitt: Others get picked up by birds. 8:45 PM: ZolaLevitt: Others don't get watered. And some flourish. 8:46 PM: ZolaLevitt: The Bible will give you the water of life. Plus you need fellowship. 8:46 PM: ZolaLevitt: The prayer is the first step, but I'm hoping you will follow through on a commitment to Christ for your own sake. 8:47 PM: ZolaLevitt: If you have faith the size of a mustard seed, then you will enter the gates of heaven, but you also want to live a joyful and abundant life in the here & now, right? 8:47 PM: DepressedA: i want to make that commitment zola and stay with it 8:47 PM: ZolaLevitt: Then pray with me now and I will get back to those extra questions I promised to answer earlier. 8:48 PM: ZolaLevitt: What's your first name, Depressed? 8:48 PM: DepressedA: MGeorge 8:48 PM: DepressedA: no m just george 8:49 PM: ZolaLevitt: Okay, George. "Dear Lord: 8:50 PM: ZolaLevitt: Come into my life and live it with me. Guide me in your ways. Forgive my sins and come for me in the great day of Resurrection. And we'll be together forever." 8:50 PM: ZolaLevitt: Now: Observing is carrying out the physical details of the law, whereas ... 8:50 PM: ZolaLevitt: Celebrating is appreciate the deeper significance of the law. 8:51 PM: ZolaLevitt: Did you pray that prayer, George? 8:51 PM: DepressedA: yes i did 8:51 PM: ZolaLevitt: What city are you in, George? 8:51 PM: DepressedA: ohio 8:51 PM: ZolaLevitt: Would you please call my office tomorrow at ... 8:52 PM: ZolaLevitt: (214) 696-8844 and request our "New Christian" package. Also, you are welcome to talk with Lawrence and/or Tony. 8:52 PM: ZolaLevitt: We might be able to find a messianic congregation in your area. 8:52 PM: ZolaLevitt: Then again, you may want to go to a Bible church. 8:53 PM: DepressedA: ok got it 8:53 PM: ZolaLevitt: In addition, I believe you should attack the problems you have with your addictions. 8:53 PM: ZolaLevitt: Bible reading + church + 12 step and/or Al Anon. Take the initiative. 8:54 PM: ZolaLevitt: You may also want to locate a counselor within the church you pick and get involved in a small Bible study group. BUT FIRST: ... 8:54 PM: ZolaLevitt: how about changing your nick to Saved_George?! : ) 8:55 PM: *** DepressedAndLostDude is now known as Saved_George 8:55 PM: ZolaLevitt: You can now begin to celebrate eternal life rather than eternal death. 8:55 PM: ZolaLevitt: By George, He's saved another soul!! 8:55 PM: Saved_Geor: Zola thanks for talkin to me 8:55 PM: ZolaLevitt: Do you know where you would like to begin reading in your Bible, George? 8:56 PM: Saved_Geor: sure 8:56 PM: ZolaLevitt: Where? 8:56 PM: Saved_Geor: mybe at the first part 8:56 PM: ZolaLevitt: I might suggest the Psalms and the Gospels, Mathew, Mark, Luke and/or John. 8:56 PM: Saved_Geor: ok 8:58 PM: ZolaLevitt: You might also like our book "Return to Galilee," which will be in the materials we send you. Did you write down our telephone number? 8:58 PM: Saved_Geor: yes 214-696-8844 8:58 PM: ZolaLevitt: I'm about to answer one last question and call it a night, but before I do ... 8:59 PM: ZolaLevitt: I'm asking that all 38 people in this chat room pray in agreement for George's resolve to live in Christ and let Christ live in him. 8:59 PM: pattys: will do Zola 8:59 PM: GregH: Thank you for taking the time to talk with George 8:59 PM: ZolaLevitt: You should know, George, that you have friends in this room that are here to fellowship with you even when churches are closed. 8:59 PM: bethany: You are welcome here anytime! 9:00 PM: Saved_Geor: i was here last night to 9:00 PM: ZolaLevitt: In addition, www.levitt.com has a discussion board where you can post Bible questions that you want answered more indepth than can sometimes happen here. 9:00 PM: Saved_Geor: ok 9:00 PM: ZolaLevitt: God bless you, George. 9:01 PM: Saved_Geor: thanks Zola 9:00 PM: ZolaLevitt: I guess I'm ready for that last question, Greg. 9:00 PM: GregH: The final question that I have is: 9:00 PM: GregH: <DavidG> Do you believe that all Believers are promised health and healing while living on Earth, in passages such as Is. 53 ? 9:01 PM: ZolaLevitt: Okay, David ... 9:02 PM: ZolaLevitt: Regarding health and healing, God is sovereign and decides who and when, according to his will. 9:03 PM: pattys: [20:53] <Qumran> Mr. Levitt, I am looking forward to hearing you speak in Tulsa on the 22nd next month. :-) 9:02 PM: ZolaLevitt: Remember, George, call our office tomorrow and ask for Lawrence or Tony. Tell them that you're a new Christian and ask them any questions you might have. 9:03 PM: ZolaLevitt: Additionally, George, our ministry's chaplain, Jim Wayland, is certified in Drug Rehabilitation. You can reach him at (214) 352-5850. 9:04 PM: ZolaLevitt: Please call him and tell him that Zola sent you. We have mentioned him on our Levitt Letter's bulletin board, and he is happy to hear from anyone who believes in our outreach. 9:04 PM: ZolaLevitt: Also, George, you may want to visit our web site. Read our newsletters, see the Israel slide show and read the FAQ (frequently asked questions). 9:05 PM: ZolaLevitt: You with me, George? 9:05 PM: Saved_Geor: yeah 9:06 PM: ZolaLevitt: Okay. God will bless you if you let him. Please stick around for some extra fellowship. 9:06 PM: Saved_Geor: ok 9:06 PM: ZolaLevitt: Greg, please let some other folks talk with George. 9:07 PM: bethany: Thank you so much Zola! 9:07 PM: ZolaLevitt: Go ahead and open up the room, Greg. 9:07 PM: *** Mode change "-m" on #Zola_Levitt_Ministries by GregH 9:07 PM: GregH: The room is now open 9:07 PM: LJay: bless 9:07 PM: LJay: 4B5less 4T5he 4L5ord 4O5h 4M5y 4S5oul 4! 9:07 PM: bethany: Welcom to the family George! 9:07 PM: Smogzilla: Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 9:07 PM: Leila: 6S2halom all 9:07 PM: bethany: Amen Smogzilla! 9:07 PM: pattys: Thanks Zola and its good to have you back 9:07 PM: bethany: Shalom Leila 9:07 PM: Saved_Geor: thank you 9:07 PM: Mic^: yeah George!!! 9:07 PM: Yashka: amen!! 9:07 PM: Walt: Welcome to the family George 9:07 PM: Leila: try ambrosia yet bethany 9:07 PM: Leila: 6L2aughs 6O2ut 6L2oud 9:07 PM: Smogzilla: George you can always cry to God..He will hear you...I do all the time...with tears..and I am comforted 9:08 PM: bethany: Saved_George, there is much for you to learn, much for you to take joy in, much for you to find your peace in. 9:08 PM: Heatherann: Hi guys!!!!! 9:08 PM: OCTBTRFLY: This has been a wonderful night 9:08 PM: Heatherann: smoggy!!! 9:08 PM: bethany: Hi Heatherann 9:08 PM: Qumran: Mazeltov, George. G-d will keep you. 9:08 PM: Heatherann: ooooh oct!!!! 9:08 PM: *** BH-afk is now known as Behold-Him 9:08 PM: Smogzilla: hey heatherman 9:08 PM: bethany: Amen OCTBTRFLY 9:08 PM: LJay: hi Heater ! 9:08 PM: Leila: hey Saved_George do u know that the angels in heaven are celebrating and partying because of you right now!!!!!!! 9:08 PM: Heatherann: jay!!! 9:08 PM: Heatherann: jaydaddy 9:08 PM: bethany: Amen Leila 9:08 PM: pattys: amen Leila! 9:08 PM: LJay: 4H5eather 4H5i 4F5rom 4A5dult 4P5arent 4U5nit 4#5 42 9:08 PM: Yashka: amen!! 9:08 PM: Walt: amen Leila 9:08 PM: mirandamirage dances with the angels 9:08 PM: Smogzilla needs to walk around the room..her tail is going numb 9:08 PM: Behold-Him: 03P10raise 03T10he 03L10ord! God is good all the time!!!!! 9:08 PM: Heatherann: 12L14aughs 12O14ut 12L14oud smoggy 9:08 PM: pattys: sure is 9:08 PM: bethany: 0,120<2>0Saved_George0,120<2> all of heaven is rejoicing over you! 9:08 PM: Behold-Him: 03P10raise 03T10he 03L10ord! for the gift of salvation!!!!! 9:08 PM: Heatherann: patters! 9:08 PM: pattys: dance on mirandamirage 9:08 PM: Shilohcity: hello everyone 9:09 PM: OCTBTRFLY: Amen 9:09 PM: Qumran: Shalom shilo 9:09 PM: pattys: hey heater!!!!!!! love you girl 9:09 PM: Behold-Him: the angels are praising the Lord for saving George! 9:09 PM: Behold-Him: 05H05allelujah!!!!! 9:09 PM: bethany: Amen 9:09 PM: Dg: Are we allowed to ask Zola a question still in open room? 9:09 PM: Walt: George, you've started on the most wonderful, exciting adventure you could possibly imagine. Blessings 9:09 PM: Heatherann: hey shiloh! I haven't gotten in but i'm getting there!!! 9:09 PM: bethany: Sure Dg 9:09 PM: OCTBTRFLY: Thank you Father for our new brother 9:09 PM: mirandamir: amen 9:09 PM: bethany: I don't know if he can read when it scrolls by this fast though 9:09 PM: bethany: Yes Lord 9:09 PM: Leila: 6L2aughs 6O2ut 6L2oud bethany 9:09 PM: Yn: Saved_George Yn gives you a big Hugg and smiles Welcome into the family of Hope and Love and Life and Peace and fellowship with friends 9:09 PM: Qumran: Mr. Levitt, I am looking forward to hearing you speak in Tulsa on the 22nd 9:10 PM: Heatherann gives george a hug......knew you were going to make it boy :) welcome to the family 9:10 PM: DenaLeah: ÊÊÊÊÊ04,05<01,05>05,05__09,05 #zola_levit 05,05_______04,05<01,05> 9:10 PM: mirandamir: George I use to be soooo depressed....and now when I feel that way I know the LORD is there....ALWAYS 9:10 PM: Dg: Zola, if I understood you correctly, then, regarding healing, its God's choice on whom He will heal. That there is no guarantee or promise that all believers will be healed while living in this body, amd I correct? 9:10 PM: ZolaLevitt: Have to go now and catch up on some paperwork that accumulated during my speaking engagements in the NW. Love & appreciate you all. Such good friends. Hope you'll be here on the last Tuesday of August, George. I plan to. 9:10 PM: Yashka: Cevero Atlantiicheckii Cayz= North Atlantic Alliance lol 9:10 PM: bethany: Father in heaven we ask that you be with George, strengthen him and his commitment. Put Your children before him, in his path wherever he might need us. In Christ's Name. Amen. 9:10 PM: Heatherann: bye zola!!!! 9:10 PM: Heatherann: thank you for coming :) 9:10 PM: LJay: 4S5halom 4S5halom Zola ~ 9:10 PM: Behold-Him: 05S06halom ZolaLevitt 9:10 PM: Qumran: Lila tov 9:10 PM: mirandamir: Thank you Zola 9:10 PM: OCTBTRFLY: Thank you Zola it was a pleasure meeting you 9:10 PM: bethany: Thanks ZolaLevitt!!! 9:10 PM: Yashka: thank u zola!! 9:10 PM: pattys: bye bye Mark and Zola 9:10 PM: pattys: thanks! 9:10 PM: Leila: 6G2ood 6N2ight 6-2 6M2ay 6A2ngels 6W2atch 6o2ver 6Y2ou ZolaLevitt 9:10 PM: Smogzilla: 13(((((10 Huggy Poos zola 13)))))) 9:11 PM: bethany: yes thanks Mark! 9:11 PM: Walt: nite Zola, God bless you 9:11 PM: oreo^: 4G4od 4B4less zola 9:11 PM: oreo^: 4L4ove 4A4nd 4H4ugs! 9:11 PM: bethany: Praise to God! 9:11 PM: Dg: Thanks for sharing Zola 9:11 PM: Yn: Thank You Zola 9:11 PM: Smogzilla wags her tail 9:11 PM: LJay: 4P5raise 4T5he 4L5ord 4! 4! 9:11 PM: LJay: 4B5aruch 4H5a- 4S5hem 4! 9:11 PM: mirandamir: where is NW? 9:11 PM: bethany: uh oh, Smogzilla's wagging her tail! 9:11 PM: oreo^: Hallelujah!! 9:11 PM: OCTBTRFLY: Zola this is like the Waltons it will take all night to say goodbye 9:11 PM: Smogzilla gives ZolaLevitt a SLURP! 9:11 PM: ZolaLevitt: Bye, George. Behold-Him, Miranda, Octbtrfly, Bethany, Yashka, Pattys, Leila, Smogzilla (ahhhhhhh — can't type that fast!!). 9:11 PM: mirandamirage posts ABSOLUTELY NO TAIL WAGGING 9:11 PM: bethany: LOL 9:11 PM: bethany: LOL ZolaLevitt 9:11 PM: pattys: Laughs Out Loud byeeeee 9:12 PM: Saved_Geor: bye Zola 9:12 PM: Smogzilla pouts 9:12 PM: neighbor: Thank You george for having the courage to take this step. May God assist you in following through. 9:12 PM: Yashka: bye zola! 9:12 PM: bethany: Amen neighbor! 9:12 PM: hunny: thank you, ZolaLevitt :) 9:12 PM: Yn: We will miss you Zola till next time 9:12 PM: oreo^: Luv Luv Luv ya zola 9:12 PM: Shilohcity: bye zola 9:12 PM: LJay: Yakov Smartinuff 4! 9:12 PM: Yashka: lol 9:12 PM: Behold-Him: will keep you in prayers that you grow strong in the Lord, Saved_George :) 9:12 PM: mirandamirage knocks a whole in the Zola wall so Smog can wag her tail outside and still be in the room 9:12 PM: bethany: thank y'all for the great questions! 9:12 PM: Night-Hawk: take care Z 9:12 PM: Heatherann: Zola come back again! we'll teach you to type like us :) 9:12 PM: pattys: zola got a "huggy pooh and a Luv luv luv you!" LOL 9:12 PM: pattys: I love it 9:12 PM: oreo^: 4L4aughs 4O4ut 4L4oud heater 9:12 PM: *** Redeemed (saved@ts021d15.phe-pa.concentric.net) has joined channel #Zola_Levitt_Ministries 9:12 PM: pattys: 12L14aughs 12O14ut 12L14oud 9:13 PM: bethany: Hi Redeemed! 9:13 PM: Redeemed: hi bethany 9:13 PM: netrhyda: hi redeemed 9:13 PM: pattys: hi Redeemed 9:13 PM: Heatherann: have ya flying in no time :) hehe 9:13 PM: pattys: You Have Just Entered The Zola Zone 9:13 PM: Redeemed: hi netrhyda 9:13 PM: christie: hi pattys 9:13 PM: Redeemed: hi pattys 9:13 PM: OCTBTRFLY: I wish fry could have been here 9:13 PM: bethany: I'm going to email him right now! 9:13 PM: pattys: hey christie!!!!!! 9:13 PM: ZolaLevitt: You too, Yashtka & hunny, UH, Oreo, Shilohcity, etc., etc., etc. & Night-Hawk, Heatherann. 9:13 PM: bethany: me too OCTBTRFLY! 9:13 PM: Heatherann: ooooh no she didn't just kill smoggy! 9:13 PM: *** Signoff: ZolaLevitt (QUIT: ) -- end --