zolachat_2001-06-27

irc.christian-chat.net #Zola_Levitt_Ministries 6/27/2001 7:00 PM CT NOTES: 1. Some messages have been moved from their original order for the sake of readability. A few typos were corrected to reduce confusion. 2. All questions have been relayed to "tovah," who reposted them for Zola to answer. 3. Zola's son Mark is typing Zola's responses. He is often marking the end of his replies with the word "End." ---------------------------------------- 6:59 PM: -*pattys (CC400@216.51.104.116)*- To ask Zoal a question you must pc Tovah by double clicking on her name, or you can type 3/msg Tovah 1then type your message. 6:59 PM: pattys: Hey Zola... "yeah right... sure its you" hehe 6:59 PM: Zola: If only Jesus were here. Wait, I sense His presence. 6:59 PM: pattys: :) 6:59 PM: tovah: amen zola! 6:59 PM: tovah 2,04Kjv24 Psalms 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. 7:00 PM: EndTimer: Zola you rock! 7:00 PM: pattys: Laughs Out Loud 7:00 PM: EndTimer: Your up there with Paul and Van Impe 7:00 PM: pattys: Zola rocks? 7:00 PM: Yn: Zola this is my first time to say HI to you WOW 7:00 PM: pattys: Laughs Out Loud 7:00 PM: Bri: Zola is cool! 7:00 PM: Zola: Greg is the one who posts our newsletters, administers the BB and the chat room!! 7:00 PM: GregH: well, someone's gotta do it 7:00 PM: GregH: Hey, Zola's here! :-) 7:00 PM: pattys: Laughs Out Loud greg 7:00 PM: EndTimer: I shouldnt call you Zola 7:00 PM: Zola: Hi, Yn. This is my first time to say Hi to you! 7:00 PM: EndTimer: I should call you 7:00 PM: EndTimer: Mr. Levitt 7:00 PM: cougar: Laugh Out Loud 7:00 PM: Zola: Yes, EndTimer? 7:00 PM: GregH: Or Mr. Zola 7:00 PM: EndTimer: Yeah 7:01 PM: Katydid: hi Zola 7:01 PM: EndTimer: Mr. Levitt 7:01 PM: Zola: The Israelis say Meeeester Zola. 7:01 PM: EndTimer: I saw you in "Left Behind, Whered Everybody Go" 7:01 PM: Yn: Zola Is this really YOu 7:01 PM: cougar: Laugh Out Loud 7:01 PM: pattys: yes Y its really him 7:01 PM: Zola: Yes, Yn. It's me. Actually it's my son, Mark, typing for me. But I'm supervising him. 7:01 PM: Zola: (with a small h) 7:01 PM: EndTimer: Mr Levitt did you get to meet the Lalondes? 7:02 PM: Zola: Several times. 7:02 PM: EndTimer: What is your opinion of em 7:02 PM: EndTimer: Im fans of theirs 7:02 PM: Zola: They're doing a good job. Prophecy teachers are rare these days. End. 7:02 PM: Yn: OH I am so Excited . My husband and I want to go on your tour to Israel so BADDDDDDD 7:02 PM: Zola: When? 7:03 PM: Yn: When My Husband retires if the Lord dont come back in the mean time we will go to Israel 7:02 PM: mirandamirage climbs in Yn's suitcase 7:02 PM: EndTimer: What about Hal Lindsey? 7:02 PM: EndTimer: Did you meet him? 7:02 PM: Zola: I like Hal. 7:02 PM: Zola: Yes, he's been on my program. 7:02 PM: Bri: I was praying for various ministries one time, for this Pastor and that Pastor, and I said "and I ask for Your Blessings for Pastor Zola" and I thought, hey, that's cool! He is Pastor Zola! :) 7:03 PM: EndTimer: I feel priviledged. 7:03 PM: EndTimer: To meet the real Zola Leviit 7:03 PM: Bri: Is it ok to call you "Zola"?? 7:03 PM: Zola: Yes. 7:03 PM: Zola: We're all level at the cross. 7:03 PM: EndTimer: No he deserves to be called "Mr Levitt" 7:04 PM: Zola: No, I prefer Zola. My father's name was Mr. Levitt. 7:04 PM: mirandamir: lol 7:04 PM: pattys: Laughs Out Loud 7:04 PM: EndTimer: Ok 7:04 PM: EndTimer: LOL 7:04 PM: mirandamirage whispers to tuffy...hes funny 7:04 PM: fry: <---waves across room to zola 7:04 PM: Yn: Zola You are our Favorite TV Program 7:04 PM: EndTimer: Zola, you, Van Impe, Hal Lindsey and Kenneth Copeland are my favs of TBN 7:05 PM: mirandamir: yn...you can get his program? when??? 7:05 PM: pattys: Ani Ohev At Achoti Meod!!! 7:05 PM: cougar: zola, i am from canada, had never heard ofyou before, but came here, then started watching your online programs. i love them. have learned so much, thank you! 7:05 PM: pattys: Atah Yaffa Chaveri You Are My Beautiful Friend tovah 7:05 PM: tovah: thanks! 7:05 PM: sum14Hizwr: shalom zola 7:05 PM: EndTimer: Im in Canada too 7:05 PM: Yn: I got halfway through your correspondence course about several years ago but I do hope I can finish it 7:05 PM: EndTimer: Proud and canadian 7:05 PM: cougar: cool EndTimer 7:05 PM: tovah: thank you! 7:05 PM: cougar: me too! 7:05 PM: EndTimer: I watch Zola 7:05 PM: EndTimer: I have cable 7:05 PM: pattys: zola... how did you like my hebrew... the classes are working! 7:06 PM: mirandamirage pouts I can't get his program 7:06 PM: sum14Hizwr: endtimer.... what part of canada? 7:06 PM: EndTimer: Alberta 7:06 PM: Zola: What did you say in Hebrew, Patty? 7:06 PM: EndTimer: Edmonton 7:06 PM: pattys: Laughs Out Loud 7:06 PM: tuffy: Jesus loves me this I know 7:06 PM: tovah: she doesnt know 7:06 PM: tuffy: for the bible tells me so 7:06 PM: Yn: Miranda Zola is on WAQP on Saturday night at 630pm 7:06 PM: EndTimer: Golden we have Zola himself here 7:06 PM: tovah: yes! 7:06 PM: pattys: I told tovah that she was my beautiful sister.... 7:06 PM: pattys: then I told her that I loved her 7:06 PM: tuffy: little ones to him belong 7:06 PM: tuffy: they are weak but he is strong 7:06 PM: tovah: yes! and I am! 7:06 PM: pattys: in a sisterly sort of way 7:06 PM: pattys: Laughs Out Loud 7:06 PM: tuffy: oh Hi Zola is here 7:06 PM: tovah: 3Laughs 3Out 3Loud 7:07 PM: pattys: Laughs Out Loud 7:07 PM: Yn: Zola What do you think of Perry Stone Jr and what he teaches 7:07 PM: Zola: Perry Stone is a little theatrical for my taste. 7:07 PM: mirandamir: hey I never said hi to Zola....HI ZOLA 7:08 PM: Zola: Hi, mirandamirage! 7:08 PM: pattys: Laughs Out Loud 7:08 PM: sum14Hizwr: zola... G-d bless you my wonderful brother.... shalom in Jesus name 7:08 PM: tuffy: did you get my letter recommending myself to be your associate pastor zola tehehe <joking> 7:08 PM: mirandamir: lol @ tuffy 7:08 PM: mirandamirage pulls tuffy into the corner 7:08 PM: tuffy: awwwww mirand <whining> 7:07 PM: EndTimer: Did you ever meet John Ankerberg 7:08 PM: Zola: Yes, I've met John. 7:08 PM: EndTimer: What did you think of him? 7:08 PM: Zola: What's the difference? Let's talk about the Lord. End. 7:08 PM: EndTimer: Ok sorry 7:09 PM: sum14Hizwr: amen zola 7:08 PM: cougar would like to know if zola has any plans to come to canada to speak 7:09 PM: Zola: No plans to come to Canada. No prob, EndTimer. 7:09 PM: GregH: OK, I think we're about ready to begin... 7:09 PM: tovah 2,04Kjv24 Psalms 18:1 I will love thee, O LORD, my strength. 7:09 PM: tovah 2,04Kjv24 Psalms 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower. 7:09 PM: Yn: Zola can you tell me what you believe the Fathers Name is and also what his sons name is in its Original spelling? 7:10 PM: Zola: The Father's name is unpronouncible. The Son's name is Yeshua (Salvation). 7:10 PM: tuffy: Is it wrong to say Jesus instead of Yeshua? 7:10 PM: Yn: zola does that mean we are not supposed to say Gods Name in prayer (unpronouncewable)? 7:10 PM: Zola: Tuffy, it doesn't really matter whether yhou say Jesus instead of Yeshua. 7:09 PM: tuffy: passing out twinkies for everybody 7:09 PM: tovah distributes the real zola cola 7:09 PM: pattys: Laughs Out Loud 7:09 PM: Zola: Thanks for the twinkie! 7:09 PM: tuffy: you are welcomed 7:09 PM: mirandamirage would like a diet zola please 7:10 PM: sum14Hizwr: ill take the non diet thank you 7:10 PM: tovah tells room we will moderate until after the questions are asked and answered by zola..if you have questions you have not forwarded, gregh will give directions 7:10 PM: tovah distributes the DIET zola cola 7:09 PM: tuffy: :) would you like a zola cola? 7:10 PM: Zola: Sure, Tuffy. But I must moderate my caffeine. 7:10 PM: *** Mode change "+m" on #Zola_Levitt_Ministries by tovah 7:11 PM: tovah: room is moderated..Zola are you and the Mark ready 7:11 PM: pattys: To ask Zola a question please pc tovah by double clicking on to her name or by typing 3/msg tovah 1then the message 7:11 PM: GregH: Submit your questions to tovah by typing /MSG TOVAH my question... 7:11 PM: tovah: Zola are you ready for the first question 7:12 PM: tovah: 1. Question 7:12 PM: tovah: Boat: I would like to ask Zola..."why 7:12 PM: tovah: do we baptize with water, and is it necessary for salvation". 7:12 PM: tovah: Also, does Zola like crispy crme donuts? :) 7:13 PM: Zola: It's symbolic of the cleansing of regeneration. It was established in the Tabernacle. See Exodus 29:4. Don't really like Krispy Kremes, but then I'm not a donut man; sorry. 7:14 PM: tovah: <Yn> I want to understand about the name YHVH Why can we not use it and IS the Son one and the same person? 7:14 PM: Zola: We can use any name. Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." 7:15 PM: tovah: <kara> Many people want to know how to witness to a Jew, I have some ideas, but what do you say and is there any materials you'd recomend on the subject?? 7:15 PM: Zola: Our whole booklist. End. 7:16 PM: tovah: 2. Question 7:16 PM: tovah: Walid: Zola, I am concerned as the Bible mentioned the 7:16 PM: tovah: "Falling Away", that the Anti-Christ will decieve even 7:16 PM: tovah: the very elect(if he can), and as we can see today 7:16 PM: tovah: there is so much obvious falling away. But can you 7:16 PM: tovah: point out where is the "not so obvious" falling away 7:16 PM: Zola: The believers who champion Israel are not falling away. End. 7:17 PM: tovah: 3. Question 7:17 PM: tovah: Cheryl: Zola, I know the Levitical Priesthood was assigned to Temple service. 7:17 PM: tovah: What were the jobs or requirements of the other eleven tribes? What was the significance 7:17 PM: tovah: of the order in which the tribes camped? 7:18 PM: Zola: Only the Levites officiated in the Tabernacle, and they camped closest. End. 7:18 PM: tovah: 4. Question 7:18 PM: tovah: 9,13|9tuffy9|: We hear a lot about festivals and sabbaths. What is your feeling about observing Christmas and Easter? 7:19 PM: Zola: I don't observe them. End. 7:19 PM: tovah: 5. Question 7:19 PM: tovah: Do you consider the writings of church fathers as authoritative with Scripture? Do you use the writings of the church fathers to shape your soul? 7:19 PM: Zola: Never. End. 7:19 PM: tovah: <pattys> what is the significance when God consumed the sacrifice in the first temple and did not in the second temple 7:21 PM: Zola: God consumes sincere sacrifices. End. 7:21 PM: tovah: 6. Question 7:21 PM: tovah: Do you believe this is a biblical model for a church or is it purely traditional: 7:21 PM: tovah: Pastor ruling over elders ruling over members. 7:21 PM: Zola: We're all level at the cross. 7:22 PM: tovah: Yn> question Is it relevant to belong to a denominational church or is it enough to be a member of the body of Christ because we accept salvation and are a believer? 7:22 PM: Zola: The second one. End. 7:22 PM: tovah: <Bri> my question is... is there a link between the Feasts of the Lord and the number of days of human gestation between conception and birth? 7:23 PM: Zola: I think so. Seem my book, please, on The Seven Feasts of Israel. 7:23 PM: Zola: See my book . . . end. 7:23 PM: tovah: <cowboy> I don't necessarily have a question for Zola. Only a thank you. I have learned so much from watching Zola and getting his tapes and books. I started watching in 1979. I have learned more about our faith, the roots of our faith, and the Jewish People that I ever could have other wise. My eternal thanks to Zola. We love you. 7:24 PM: Zola: You're very welcome. You've been with me since the very beginning. End. 7:23 PM: tovah: 7. Question 7:23 PM: tovah: The second commandment speaks about making images out of created things and things in heaven. Do you think it is bad to have images of Jesus on t-shirts or Jesus' image made into metal on crosses? 7:24 PM: Zola: We're not under the law. End. 7:24 PM: tovah: 8. Question 7:24 PM: tovah: I read a scripture that said, don't follow the vain customs of the gentiles. Do you think it is a vain custom to worship God on the traditional gentile day of worship to their gods? (Day one of the week rather than the Biblical Sabbath day.) 7:25 PM: Zola: It doesn't matter. Paul said one day is like another. 7:25 PM: Zola: End. 7:25 PM: tovah: Zola, this is a long commentary. Please wait until I have it all printed. I will cue you by listing the name of chatter at the end. Thank you. 7:25 PM: tovah: 9. Question 7:25 PM: tovah: Suml4hizword: hi zola... 7:25 PM: tovah: >i hope you address this question with all due respect my brother. i 7:25 PM: tovah: understand that tha safe doctrines to believe are the ones plainly 7:25 PM: tovah: stated and clearly worded in G-ds word 7:25 PM: tovah: then types and shadows are used 7:25 PM: tovah: to illustrate. after searching every word of G-d, and asking thousands 7:25 PM: tovah: of people, i find that not even 1 verse of scripture plainly says we are 7:25 PM: tovah: raptured, gathered, or caught up, "before" the tribulation. the pre trib 7:25 PM: tovah: rapture doctrine is based entirely upon types and conjecture.... and 7:26 PM: tovah: the pre trib rapture doctrine goes completely against scriptures which 7:26 PM: tovah: do plainly say we are gathered "after" the tribulation, such as matthew 7:26 PM: tovah: 24:29-31, mark 13:24-27 and many others i could point out, 7:26 PM: tovah: showing 7:26 PM: tovah: plainly we go through the trib such as the "last" trump spoken of in 1 7:26 PM: tovah: cor. 15:51-53 and many more.... my view is that we should not complicate 7:26 PM: tovah: our fathers word and simply believe what is written... if it is possible 7:26 PM: tovah: and you would like to study and meditate upon these scriptures i would 7:26 PM: tovah: be happy to email; more of these plainly worded passages. 7:26 PM: tovah: >qwith respect to my brother, and all my love in Christ Jesus 7:26 PM: tovah: eric jewell 7:26 PM: tovah: END of commentary/question 7:27 PM: Zola: I disagree. End. 7:27 PM: tovah: 3Laughs 3Out 3Loud 7:27 PM: tovah: Another few questions with long commentaries from Miranda: Please wait until I finish posting. I will cue you at the end of each of the following questions: 7:27 PM: tovah: 10. My pastor describes himself as an Essentialist Dispensationalist. and believes Israel is not the church and that Jesus is yet to take the Davidic 7:27 PM: tovah: throne...... 7:27 PM: tovah: however, when questioned at his ordination council about 7:27 PM: tovah: Progressive Dispensationalism he seemed to waiver...saying that he had 7:27 PM: tovah: not looked into it enough 7:27 PM: tovah: and he also said he thought PD solved alot of the problems of dispensationalism.....He is interested in checking out further Craig Blaesing..etc....... 7:28 PM: tovah: Is there any book or literature I can send his way that may influence him......or should I just 'trust the LORD' to lead him in the right direction? 7:28 PM: tovah: I might add just as a note, I was surprised about how many of the ministers at my pastor's ordination council were progressive dispensationalists.....it was a shock to me! 7:28 PM: tovah: END of question 10. 7:29 PM: Zola: Most of our major seminaries have taken up this error which serves to excuse them from supporting Israel or witnessing to the Jews. 7:29 PM: Zola: Though they may not be concious of it, antisemitism lies at the the root of an error this great. 7:29 PM: Zola: The sheer number of believers in PD support the idea . . . 7:30 PM: Zola: of a "falling away" or other end times apostasies. End. 7:30 PM: tovah: 11. In relation to progressive dispensationalism...do you think this 7:30 PM: tovah: movement within traditionally dispensational schools...such as Moody and 7:30 PM: tovah: Dallas..... 7:31 PM: tovah: is only part of a larger movement unifying the more evangelical churches to the older denominations.....such as presbyterians, episcopalians, etc.... 7:31 PM: tovah: I see the some Baptist churches as moving in the same direction as these older denominations.....'having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof'? 7:31 PM: tovah: END of question 11. 7:31 PM: Zola: I agree. End. 7:31 PM: tovah: <Yn> My question is very simple. What should we as believers be doing right now in anticipation of our Lords return? 7:32 PM: Zola: Witnessing, witnessing. End. 7:32 PM: tovah: <fry> as the first and foremost owner of this chatroom...do you feel that people with agendas contrary to the teachings you espouse and support should be allowed to stay here and rant and rave..or should theyt be encouraged to take their agendas elsewhere? 7:32 PM: Zola: Ranting and raving shouldn't be part of Christian discourse. End. 7:33 PM: tovah: 12. Another question that arose from my pastor's ordination council. 7:33 PM: tovah: How would you describe your view in reference to the extent of the 7:33 PM: tovah: atonement? 7:33 PM: tovah: Do you think the atonement was limited to the elect or is it available to all? 7:33 PM: tovah: Would you say you have a Limited Atonement/particular redemptionist or an unlimited redemptionist 7:33 PM: tovah: END of question 12. 7:33 PM: Zola: Unlimited, open to all. End. 7:33 PM: GregH: Submit your questions for ZOLA to tovah by typing /MSG TOVAH my question... 7:34 PM: GregH: Zola's answering too quickly! :-) 7:34 PM: tovah: <Qumran> My question is--Who is Matthew referring to in Matthew 2:23 when it says "He shall be called a Nazarene" ? 7:35 PM: Zola: [Typing slowly . . .] To the Lord, Qumran. End. 7:35 PM: tovah: 3Laughs 3Out 3Loud 7:35 PM: tovah: <pattys> do you feel "the Kingdom of God" is a literal place or a spiritual one? 7:35 PM: Zola: Literal. End. 7:35 PM: tovah: <Yn> Zola please elaborate on the way the Lord wants us to witness in these end times 7:36 PM: Zola: Beginning with the Jews, we should be telling everyone who will listen to the message of salvation. End. 7:36 PM: tovah: <pattys> Are women allowed to teach, preach, or minister according to the word... and give some examples in the bible 7:36 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> Was the mosaic books delivered to Moses from God....or was it compiled by Moses from stories past down through the ages from Adam... 7:37 PM: Zola: Women did not teach or preach in Scripture . . . 7:37 PM: Zola: but they were instrumental in caring for the apostles and the Lord Himself. 7:37 PM: Zola: End. 7:37 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> Was the mosaic books delivered to Moses from God....or was it compiled by Moses from stories past down through the ages from Adam... 7:37 PM: Zola: From God on Mount Sinai. End. 7:38 PM: tovah: <tuffy> When we are having communion at home and have visitors who are not believers attending, should we invite them? 7:38 PM: Zola: Why would they partake? End. 7:38 PM: tovah: <Qumran> Which prophets in Matthew 2:23 are they quoting? 7:39 PM: tovah 2,04Kjv24 Mathew 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene. 7:40 PM: Zola: The verse seems to quote Isaiah 11:1 . . . 7:41 PM: tovah 2,04Kjv24 Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 7:40 PM: Zola: where Christ is a "rod" . . . 7:40 PM: Zola: or, in Hebrew, a Netzer. End. 7:41 PM: tovah: <sum14Hizwrd> my question is.....if we are raptured at the "last" trump as foretold in 1 cor 15:51-53 and yet we are not raptured at the 7th trump in revelation..... which is the last trump..... how can there be more than 1 "last trump? 7:41 PM: Zola: It's the last trump of the age of faith. End. 7:41 PM: tovah: <Yn> Yn is afraid of witnessing because I dont know how to 7:42 PM: Zola: Just use an extra measure of love, Yn. End. 7:44 PM: tovah: <Yn> Thanks Zola I can do that 7:42 PM: tovah: <tuffy> Junia is a female apostle ...see Romans 16:7 Also Deborah and many women did more than care for Jesus and the first 12 apostles. Are you willing to look into that posibility? 7:43 PM: Zola: You're perfectly right, tuffy, but I don't find them preaching and teaching in the NT. End. 7:43 PM: Zola: . . . wait . . . 7:43 PM: Zola: Junia is said to be "of note among the apostles," not an apostle herself. 7:44 PM: Zola: End. 7:44 PM: tovah: <mumbles> why are denominations under so much fire? They have sent lots of missonaries to the lost. 7:44 PM: Zola: But some hold false doctrines . . . 7:45 PM: Zola: and some, even those who send missionaries, . . . 7:45 PM: Zola: teach no doctrine of salvation in their churches. End. 7:45 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> when men don't take the leadership...can a woman take the step to speak for the LORD 7:46 PM: Zola: Not exactly to speak for the Lord. But yes, women are very helpful to this ministry and many others. End. 7:47 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> or if men are in serious error 7:47 PM: tovah says end of women teachers questions please 7:46 PM: tovah: <tuffy> other translation says "outstanding among the apostles". Also, I did a word study in the original greek. Junia is an apostle. Are you willing to do that same study? 7:47 PM: Zola: Not really. But then this woman, mentioned only this once, would be the only female apostle. End. 7:47 PM: tovah: <Yn> Zola I am so happy that I can personally say Thank You so omuch for providing this Chat room to us. We Love you sooooooo much. 7:47 PM: fry: amen 7:47 PM: fry: and amen 7:48 PM: Zola: Thank you very much, Tovah & Fry. 7:48 PM: tovah: How to know if you are "hearing God" when trying to plan for your future 7:48 PM: Zola: I experience a special conviction . . . 7:49 PM: Zola: when I make a decision that is in God's will. End. 7:49 PM: tovah: is that conviction named Sandra? [Zola's wife] 7:49 PM: Zola: LOL, Tovah. 7:49 PM: tovah: <cowboy> When we witness to Jewish people, do they think we are trying to introduce them to some sort of "foreign religion"? Should we clarify to them upfront that is not so? 7:49 PM: Zola: Yes, if you can make them understand that. End. 7:49 PM: tovah: <sum14Hizwrd> my question is exactly where in scripture are we told that the "last" trump in 1 cor 15:51-53 is not the 7th trump of revelation but the last trump of the age of faith... if we look at them are they not the same?..... also 2 thes 2:1-6 says that the church must fall away and antichrist must commit the abomination of desolation before we are raptured....does he not commit this act at or near the end of the tribulation according to d 7:51 PM: Zola: Obviously, the Rapture ends the period of grace, which I'm calling the age of faith. . . . 7:51 PM: Zola: That "last trumpet" is at the Rapture. The seventh trumpet occurs at nearly the end of the tribulation. End. 7:51 PM: tovah: <Qumran> The Greek word in Matthew 2:23 for nazarene is "nazoraios", which means inhabitant of Nazareth. How can it mean a Branch? Are you saying that whoever translated that verse from the original Hebrew into the Greek text made an error? 7:52 PM: Zola: Nazarath in Hebrew is Netzeret . . . 7:53 PM: Zola: A Netzer is an inhabitant of Nazarath as a Dallasite is an inhabitant of Dallas. End. 7:53 PM: tovah: <tuffy> What is the origin of the magen david (star of David)? 7:53 PM: Zola: Nobody knows. End. 7:53 PM: tovah: Yn> Zola, I live on a court where there are two Syrian families who dress traditionally and I believe they are muslims. I dont know if I should say anything about my faith to them. I am afraid of making them angry if I do. 7:54 PM: Zola: Some Syrians are Christians, Yn, or at least they know Arab Christians. They won't get mad if you're tactful. End. 7:54 PM: tovah: <mumbles> why do people fight so over end times stuff? can't you just be prepared for whatever way it is going to happen and think more on getting the lost saved. 7:55 PM: Zola: They fight because they don't read the Scriptures enough. End. 7:55 PM: tovah: <fry> zola..if we can pray to help you the most..what would you ask for......if it isnt too personal 7:56 PM: Zola: A long life. End. 7:56 PM: tovah: <lisa1> Question: At the last supper, was the "wine" that was served actually fermented wine containing alcohol? or was it basically fruit juice (unfermented)? 7:57 PM: Zola: Real wine. End. 7:57 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> Yn and I wonder if you will be in michigan any time soon....come before winter...hehehe 7:58 PM: Zola: In Milwaukee and Minnesota in October. End. 7:58 PM: tovah: <Beanpole> Are you really Zola Levvit? 7:59 PM: Zola: Yes, Beanpole. Levitt, however. : ) end. 7:59 PM: tovah: <Gavri`el> I believe the Scriptures show that the church will be caught up before the trib. What is your view on this subject 8:00 PM: Zola: I agree, Gavri`el. 8:00 PM: tovah: <Qumran> Thank you Mr. Levitt for your time, let me get this straight. Are you saying that netzer in Hebrew both means "a branch" and "inhabitant of Nazareth"? So whoever translated the NT into Greek made an error? 8:01 PM: Zola: I just can't make it any clearer for you. End. 8:01 PM: tovah: <tuffy> There is a trend towards homechurches just as there was for homeschooling. What is your opinion on homechurches? 8:02 PM: Zola: I like them. They are more like the first century churches. Believers met in homes then. End. 8:02 PM: tovah: <pattys> why is the commandment to observe the sabbath not in the list in the NT with the other commandments? 8:03 PM: Zola: The sabbath was a time of rest. Our Lord said, "I shall give you rest." See Colosians 2:16. End. 8:03 PM: tovah 2,04Kjv24 Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 8:03 PM: tovah: <pattys> what does the scripture say about tithing 8:04 PM: Zola: Tithing was an OT law. Believers are free to give as they are led in the NT. End. 8:04 PM: tovah: <cowboy> Besides sending donations, and buying your materials, and praying for you and your family, how else can we help you? 8:05 PM: Zola: By telling your friends about our TV program, web site and newsletters, Cowboy. End. 8:06 PM: tovah: <lisa1> Question: Have you read the popular "Prayer of Jabez" book? If so, what are your thoughts on it? 8:06 PM: Zola: I didn't read the book, but I can't think why that particular prayer is given such emphasis. . . . 8:07 PM: Zola: It seems to be like the prosperity doctrine, where we seek a reward by acting a certain way. 8:07 PM: tovah: <Beanpole> Is there a site or article you may have written that talks about the OT and NT tithing? 8:07 PM: Zola: Why do you need an article? End. 8:07 PM: tovah: <sum14Hizwrd> my question is....zola my brother... i am obviously a post trib rapture believer... but i do believe every word of our father, so ... could you please show me 1 verse of scripture plainly saying we are raptured "before" the trib... not just a type or a conjecture?.... if so my friend you have converted your brother... thank you very much my friend 8:08 PM: Zola: I'm sure you know of Rev. 3:10 and the like. . . . 8:08 PM: tovah 2,04Kjv24 Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. 8:08 PM: Zola: But look at it this way: the Rapture is a surprise . . . 8:09 PM: Bj_Gachele: 2Amen 2& 2Amen 8:09 PM: Zola: How can you have a surprise following some noticeable events? End. 8:09 PM: tovah: <Bri> My question is... How many people would you estimate were in the Exodus? 8:09 PM: Zola: Two million, I suppose, Bri. End. 8:09 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> I've heard it said that witnessing to a jew is anti-semitic.....that we should just accept judaism as a valid religion...and not try to push our religion on jews...what do you think? 8:10 PM: Zola: I think I would rather see them in heaven than in hell. End. 8:10 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> Did God love the Pharoah of the Exodus? 8:11 PM: Zola: As we would love our disobedient child. End. 8:12 PM: tovah: <quotechrist> why would any Christ respecting believer or self respecting person have anything to do with Christainity with the fruit it has broughtr forth, Israel, the Jews greatest emeny has been the Christains , through out the history of Christainity 8:12 PM: tovah: uh oh 8:13 PM: Zola: Jesus saves. End. 8:13 PM: tovah: <Yn> Zola, Is it offensive to use the name YHVH as Gods name when we talk referring to God? I am wondering if the name was taken out of scripture and replaced with titles such as Lord and God so as to protect the name from being misused. I believe there is power in the name and I wonder if God wants us to use hhis name 8:14 PM: Zola: I think it's actually legalism from those who lack sincere faith. End. 8:14 PM: tovah: <Beanpole> What do you believe the sons of God were in Genesis? 8:15 PM: Zola: I suppose they were angelic beings, Beanpole. End. 8:15 PM: tovah: <sum14Hizwrd> my question is...concerning rev 3 :10 there are many ways this can be taken. it is part of the L-rds prayer... the 3 hebrew children were kept from temptation as many have withouyt being raptured. is there any pre trib rapture scripture as plain as the post trib matthew 24:29-31 where Jesus says "immediately "after" the tribulation..... then shall His holy angels gather His elect.... "? what i am looking for is something stating pl 8:16 PM: Zola: I think that refers to the second coming. End. 8:16 PM: Zola: . . . 8:16 PM: Zola: You didn't answer my point about the surprise. End. 8:16 PM: tovah: <lisa1> Question: Do you have a schedule showing which weeks you will be speaking at the regularly scheduled services in Dallas? 8:17 PM: Zola: No Fridays until August, lisa1. End. 8:17 PM: Zola: Except maybe this Friday. End. 8:16 PM: tovah: <Yn> Zola was that response about legalism your answer to my last question about yhvh? 8:17 PM: tovah answers for zola - in regards to name of yhvh (yes yn) 8:18 PM: tovah: The "beings" in Genesis - angelic good beings? or demonic angelic beings? 8:19 PM: Zola: I don't think that's revealed to us. End. 8:19 PM: tovah: <tuffy> I hear people insinuating that all believers are really Ephraim (lost tribe scattered abroad) and this sounds like predestination. Have you heard this and is there ANY truth in this at all? 8:19 PM: Zola: I don't think so. End. 8:19 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> Zola do you think it is wise for christian parents to homeschool their children....what do you think about some of the current social issues such as homosexuality promoted as an alternative lifestyle...etc 8:20 PM: Zola: I'm all for home schooling. End. 8:20 PM: tovah: <fry> zola..my pastor is dying to have ya come and explain some of the feasts and their meanings..but we are a small church...if we could get all community churches together....would it maybe be more tneable? 8:20 PM: fry: teneble is last word 8:21 PM: Zola: Yes, Fry, small churches frequently will come together to fly me to speak to them. End. 8:21 PM: tovah: <cowboy> I do not know how long you can be here in the chat "room", but before you need to go ( or I do ), I would like to say thank you for taking the time out of your busy scheudle to be here with us tonight. The work you are doing, as the Lord directs, is helping so many of us. ( also, if you need any volunteers for anything, my weekends are free). thank you Zola. 8:22 PM: Zola: You're welcome, cowboy. And thanks for offering to volunteer. End. 8:22 PM: tovah: <Bj_Gachelet> What bible translation does Zola prefer to use? 8:23 PM: Zola: I use several translations. I teach from an Old Scoffield Bible (1907). End. 8:23 PM: tovah: Tell us about the "violence" in Israel. Did your last tour see any? 8:24 PM: Zola: No. None of my 70 tours has ever seen violence in Israel, which, even now, is one of the most peaceful democracies. End. 8:24 PM: tovah: Yn- {Whisper to you} Tovah I dont understand why zola cant respond more clearly about the name but I do not want to show disrespect by persistinig but I am confused 8:24 PM: tovah: sorry yn..thought zola might want to know! 8:25 PM: tovah: yn wants to know why we shouldnt focus on the name of yhvh instead of the Greek name Jesus 8:27 PM: tovah: Zola, could you explain about why it is NOT necessary to focus on any one name for Yeshua..you called it legalism 8:27 PM: *** Zola is now known as ZolaLevitt 8:28 PM: ZolaLevitt: Names for God lead us into division. It simply doesn't matter. End. 8:28 PM: tovah: <tuffy> is the Completed Jewish Bible one you recommend? Is it a trustworthy translation in your opinion? 8:28 PM: ZolaLevitt: I have not seen it. End. 8:28 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> I would like to thank Zola too......this is soooo much fun and better than locking ppl in freezers....right cougar? 8:29 PM: ZolaLevitt: Thanks, mirandamirage!! : ) 8:29 PM: tovah: <cowboy> Do the people who live in Israel realize how much we love them and are for them. I know our government doesn't always reflect this. 8:29 PM: ZolaLevitt: Those in touch with Christians realize our loyalty. End. 8:29 PM: tovah: <pattys> could you tell me the parrallels between Yeshua being crusified and the sacrifice for sin by the priests in the temple 8:30 PM: ZolaLevitt: He was the final sacrifice. He was without blemish and left forgiveness for all. 8:32 PM: tovah: Have there been any incidents of tourists being hurt by palestinians? 8:33 PM: ZolaLevitt: No tour member has ever been hurt by a Palestinian or anyone else. End. 8:33 PM: tovah: <tuffy> did women wear prayer shawls in bible days? Is ok for ladies to wear now? 8:34 PM: ZolaLevitt: It doesn't matter, tuffy. Some probably do. End. 8:34 PM: tovah: Zola, this is a question that we are asked many times..maybe you can answer it..hope so 8:35 PM: tovah: who is Zola Levitt 8:35 PM: ZolaLevitt: A believer doing temporal business for the King. End. 8:36 PM: tovah: nice answer..for more info (we always say) go to www.levitt.com 8:36 PM: tovah: <Beanpole> Do we choose to believe in Christ or does God choose? 8:36 PM: ZolaLevitt: We choose. End. 8:37 PM: tovah: <tuffy> was the Nisan 14 preparation day Lord's Supper that early church did the same thing as Communion? 8:37 PM: ZolaLevitt: No. End. 8:40 PM: tovah: <tuffy> then what was it? 8:40 PM: tovah: <tuffy> If Nisan 14 meal was not communion, then what were they doing? 8:41 PM: ZolaLevitt: They were preparing for Passover, Tuffy. Changing dishes, breads, etc. End. 8:38 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> when zola visits an area does he play his music as well as speak? 8:38 PM: ZolaLevitt: Sometimes. I would rather teach. My music's available from the ministry. End. 8:39 PM: tovah: <Kenn> Hey Tovah, ask Zola, this for me if you please "Is the Kabbalah a dangerous thing to mess with, should it be left alone, or is there some worth in it??" 8:39 PM: ZolaLevitt: I'm not comfortable with it, Kenn. End. 8:39 PM: tovah: <Walid> What is Zola's interpretation of Psalm 83? Does describe the Arab Israeli Wars? 8:39 PM: tovah: (walid is a past muslim who is now a wonderful believing Christian) 8:40 PM: ZolaLevitt: No. There are no church age prophecies in the OT. End. 8:42 PM: tovah: <Yn> Zola can I still send in my correspondence course lessons that I havent finished? I only completed half of them and its been a long time 8:42 PM: tovah: <Yn> Zola PS I got all A's on my first 6 Does that count? LOL 8:43 PM: ZolaLevitt: Yes, each course has its own test that can be sent in individually, YN. End. 8:43 PM: tovah: <Gavri`el> do you think the Ephraimite Doctrine is false teaching 8:44 PM: ZolaLevitt: Yes, Gavri`el. 8:44 PM: tovah: <cowboy> do you think Jewish people, who live overseas, are more receptive to hearing about Jesus than Jewish people here in the states? I was wondering that perhaps Jewish people living in say the former soviet union may hear less about Jesus, and may be more inquisitive about Him. 8:45 PM: ZolaLevitt: They are more used to orthodoxy and therefore more conversant with Scripture. Americans, in general, and Jews, in particular, are without the most basic Scriptural knowledge. 8:45 PM: ZolaLevitt: End. 8:45 PM: tovah: <Bri> About how far is it from the city or Jerusalem, across the Kidron, to the Mt. of Olives? 8:46 PM: ZolaLevitt: Less than one mile, Bri. End. 8:47 PM: tovah: <tuffy> Why did Jesus do communion on that day if it was not going to be the same thing? 8:47 PM: ZolaLevitt: He did communion after sundown as part of the Passover, not on the day of preparation. End. 8:48 PM: tovah: <Bj_Gachelet> In the catholic bible, there are a few additional books to the OT(book of Sirach, Tobias, additions to Daniel, etc). Have you ever read them, and are they trustworthy?? 8:49 PM: ZolaLevitt: No, I haven't read them, and I doubt they're trustworthy, Bj. End. 8:50 PM: tovah: <mirandamirage> we were talking about cremation the other day and someone said that jews don't cremate. Do you think cremation is wrong.....Also...was Joseph mummified do you think? Did the jews in Egypt practice that? 8:51 PM: ZolaLevitt: First, the Bible doesn't speak to cremation. No one knows if the Jews participated in Egyptian burial practices. End. 8:51 PM: tovah: <Bri> Do you feel that the site of the Crucifixion was north of the Temple or is the traditional site reasonable? 8:51 PM: ZolaLevitt: North is correct, and both sides are reasonable. End. 8:52 PM: ZolaLevitt: . . . sites . . . 8:52 PM: tovah: What are the Gnostic Gospels? - What does that mean? 8:52 PM: *** Signoff: ZolaLevitt (Connection reset by peer) 8:57 PM: tovah: <cowboy> Daniel and Revelation speak of the abomination standing in the "holy place". do you think we might see another tabernacle with a Holy of Holies instead of a rebuilt Temple, considering the problems of removing the mosque that is on the Temple Mount at this time? another tabernacle could be put up pretty fast and it could be accepting sacrifices. since the tabernacle preceeded the Temple, they might do this while waiting to rebuild the T 8:58 PM: ZolaLevitt: That's reasonable but they would prefer a temple to copy Herod's. End. 8:58 PM: tovah: <Bri> What do you think Jesus was like as a person ? 8:59 PM: ZolaLevitt: Very intelligent, considerate and loving. End. 8:59 PM: tovah: <tuffy> Were the apostles quoting oral traditions they had learned when they said Gentiles should refrain from eating meat strangled, from sexual sin, and from idol worship? 8:59 PM: tovah: <tuffy> asks if zola needs more twinkies 9:00 PM: ZolaLevitt: Thanks for coming, everyone. See you next month. End. 9:00 PM: *** Mode change "-m" on #Zola_Levitt_Ministries by GregH 9:00 PM: *** Signoff: ZolaLevitt (QUIT: ) 9:00 PM: Dg: Awwwww 9:00 PM: pattys: thank you again zola! 9:00 PM: GregH: We're unmoderated so people can say goodbye to Zola... 9:00 PM: tovah: he is gone!!! 9:00 PM: cougar: Laugh Out Loud 9:00 PM: cougar: too late! 9:00 PM: GregH: I tried 9:00 PM: cowboy: thanks Zola....we love ya 9:00 PM: Dg: He's quick 9:00 PM: GregH: dang 9:00 PM: mirandamir: bye Mr. Zola Levitt sir 9:00 PM: *** Guest69355 is now known as Little 9:00 PM: Dg: Well, what I saw was neat. 9:00 PM: tuffy: he went to get more twinkies!!!! 9:01 PM: cowboy: Zola has left the building 9:01 PM: Walid: some day we will meet Zola 9:01 PM: Little: newnick Littlez 9:01 PM: tuffy: see how fast he ran for them 9:01 PM: GregH: He tires easily 9:01 PM: mirandamirage waves bye to zola as he fades into the sunset 9:01 PM: bethany: so how is everyone? 9:01 PM: cowboy: I am great...waited 22 years to talk to Zola...yyyyyyyeeeeeeehhhhhhaaaa 9:01 PM: Bj_Gachele: 2God 2Bless_& 2Keep 2You... 2May 2His 2Heart 2Smile 2On 2You Zola 9:01 PM: Little: Big Z was tired this evening, but he was grateful for the twinkie offer. 9:01 PM: Walid: I never got to see the answers for my questions 9:01 PM: Dg: Cool cowboy 9:01 PM: Walid: can someone email me the script 9:01 PM: Walid: YN shalom 9:02 PM: tovah: walid, Greg will post the entire script - where will we find it GREG 9:02 PM: bethany: woooo! 9:02 PM: mirandamir: you asked good questions tuffy 9:02 PM: bethany: k cowboy 9:02 PM: Dg: Oh good, Greg....I'd love to read it! 9:02 PM: Hoo: Hi Little Z -!! 9:02 PM: tovah: yes Walid, zola answered your question! 9:03 PM: GregH: Right now, the chat logs are here: http://www.levitt.com/chatlogs/ 9:03 PM: Little: So much love in this place. Makes me so . . . 9:03 PM: Little: . . . mooshy & all. 9:03 PM: GregH: Last month is there, plus teachings from others 9:03 PM: tuffy: zola answered all of mine quiet satisfactorily, cept the last one 9:03 PM: sum14Hizwr: zolas a great guy miranda 9:03 PM: tovah: walid, did you see address 9:03 PM: tovah: http://www.levitt.com/chatlogs/ 9:03 PM: Yn: Tovah I am still frustrated 9:03 PM: Walid: yes, great 9:04 PM: Little: How would someone know where to find the chatlogs if one of our chatters didn't tell him? 9:04 PM: tovah: I am sorry yn..but you can write directly to www.levitt.com email address if you want 9:04 PM: tovah: or write to zola! 9:04 PM: tovah: we dont know little 9:04 PM: GregH: Zola's email is staff@levitt.com 9:05 PM: cougar: walid, don't know if you saw my last post, but wanted to welcome you back to zolas. been so long since we've seen you and also to thank you for your site. i have visited it often, and have sent it to others. may He bless you and keep you 9:05 PM: sum14Hizwr: tovah do you think zola would correspond email with me concerning the scriptures? 9:05 PM: GregH: It will take a day or so to get tonight's log out there, though. Need to edit it a bit 9:05 PM: tovah: http://www.levitt.com/chatlogs/ 9:05 PM: GregH: I'm planning on adding a link on the Chat page, LittleZ 9:06 PM: Walid: My family are ready to turn me in to the PA 9:06 PM: cougar: i'm so very sorry walid 9:06 PM: pattys: oh no Walid 9:06 PM: cougar: our prayers are with you 9:06 PM: Walid: My uncle sent me a message 9:06 PM: tovah: sum, why dont you write and find out..he also answers in newsletters 9:06 PM: Walid: to come to Bethlehem court or loose ALL my land 9:06 PM: pattys: yes they are... we will keep you in prayer Walid 9:06 PM: Walid: The Shepherd's Fields 9:06 PM: mirandamir: Walid? 9:06 PM: Little: Walid, where are you? Zola is asking. 9:07 PM: Walid: I am in CA 9:07 PM: Walid: Northern CA 9:07 PM: Walid: I have been home sick for years 9:07 PM: Walid: I WILL go back no matter what 9:07 PM: pattys: I know it has to be hard Walid 9:07 PM: Yn: WALID I feel for you 9:07 PM: Walid: my family have close ties with the PLO 9:07 PM: cougar: oh walid 9:08 PM: Walid: You people are the only family I got 9:08 PM: Little: Thanks, Walid. Have to go. Brief case stuff to do. Night all! 9:08 PM: mirandamir: Father please be with Walid 9:08 PM: Yn: Walid please be careful 9:08 PM: mirandamir: protect him and give him peace about his family 9:08 PM: cougar: yes Lord 9:08 PM: Walid: I can't be thatcarefull if I am going to be affective 9:08 PM: cougar: keep him from all harm Father 9:08 PM: cougar: protect him and guide him 9:08 PM: mirandamir: yes Father 9:09 PM: pattys: yes Father touch Walid and protect him 9:09 PM: sum14Hizwr: walid i understand that 9:09 PM: sum14Hizwr: amen 9:09 PM: Yn: Walid dont let Satan do you in. Just be careful 9:09 PM: pattys: Father give Walid wisdom to win his people to you 9:09 PM: pattys: bye bye hoo hugs girl 9:09 PM: Walid: Amen 9:09 PM: Walid: Tnank you guys so much 9:10 PM: Yn: Thank You God for givinig Walid to us. He is such a powerful witness for you 9:10 PM: Walid: Sorry I haven't been on the chat for so long, lots of work for the cause 9:10 PM: cougar: walid, we have missed you 9:10 PM: Walid: You can't imagine how much I miss you guys 9:10 PM: Walid: I cry for Israel daily 9:10 PM: Bri: I've never talked with you before Walid. Please know that I will be praying for you! 9:11 PM: Walid: Thank Bri, God bless you and keep you 9:11 PM: cougar: walid, please come back soon. 9:11 PM: Walid: Ok, I will 9:11 PM: tovah: we love you so much walid! 9:12 PM: Walid: I love you too sister TOVAH 9:12 PM: tovah: awww thanks walid, so good to see you again in this room..where I first met you over 3 years ago -- end --